So can we all agree that he was right?

>punished ted

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Shouldn't have killed those people but yes

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Lame ass. He killed zero commies. You can't pretend to be smart and actually be a murderer without recognizing the most murderous ideology of the 20th century.

There were no social media then, that was the only way to make people read your manifesto.

>why the fuck did the WU not get nearly the reputation publicly as ted did
like the media and bureaucracy, weatherman was left-wing

one of the best documentaries

That first kike in the first 10 min. Kvetching still

Welcome to The List, retards.

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His words may have been right, but his actions were wrong.

Already been spoken to. It’s not bad if you don’t break the law, don’t even have to speak to them

Yup. But Linkola is righter.

take the pacifist anarchist pills guys. peace and love for everyone

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At least he walked the walk. I think his manifesto will gain more ground as time goes on. Not that it already hasn't.

You're right, he should have used a metal endcaps instead instead of wood because if you're gonna kaboom some jewniggers you wan't each chance to count.

>When asked if he was afraid of losing his mind in prison, Kaczynski replied:

>No, what worries me is that I might in a sense adapt to this environment and come to be comfortable here and not resent it anymore. And I am afraid that as the years go by that I may forget, I may begin to lose my memories of the mountains and the woods and that's what really worries me, that I might lose those memories, and lose that sense of contact with wild nature in general. But I am not afraid they are going to break my spirit.

No he just couldn't handle a modern society

If he hadn’t of killed anyone he may have been able to spread his ideas more. Or maybe not. Maybe he would never have gotten any coverage and would have been memory holed had he not demanded that papers publish his manifesto to get it front and center with normies.

Ted is a mathematical genius and understands concepts that are only fully grasped by a handful of people on the planet. Therefore, I can’t say the actions he took to get his gospel put was of more or less benefit.

I do know that it is more acceptable today to say that you’ve read his stuff with normies than around 15+ years ago.

Hehe. Somebody doens't know about MUTT PRIDE WORLDWIDE yet.

You will. We will save you. And you will thank us.

>republican >calls people normies

Shit, I'm 5:15 in and hooked.

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Neither can I. What do I do?

He could've just... written books on the topic, generated press, etc...

But he's right. Hell, Pol probably hates Alan Watts, but he also was right on some of the big issues. There WILL be a technological critical mass where we have too many people and too much consumption and leisure time. We do have to have a serious discussion about this. Not "every body gets gibs" discussion, but serious discussion about the advancement of technology and it's impacts. A solid 20 years of "let's not develop anything new - let's just chill with what we've got" would do the world a lot of good as a starting point.

based

Linkola overdosed on redpills

More like unaboomer

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Kaczynski wrote to Linkola but Linkola used his letters for kindling as they were written in English.

>thinks there are too many whites
>let's not try to develop new ways of surviving and prospering with billions more people being born
Flag always checks out.

Yeah, what the hell was that all about? Talk about huge red flag.

Can I get a quick rundown on Linkola. He seems based.

What is the WU?

Weather Underground.. those were just some violent hippies

>witnessed the destruction of the Finnish rural idyll of his childhood and the ravages of industrialisation
>hates modern world
>realizes all is lost
>only solution is to radically reduce human population and to take down consumer capitalism
>lived his life as a fisherman in winter and bird watcher in summer
>loves birds

I've never heard this before. Do you have a link to any account of their 'interactions'? Also how well known is he in Finland, and how is he received?
ruby.fgcu.edu/courses/twimberley/EnviroPhilo/PenttiEssays pdf

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Anyone here watched The Net? It's a pretty good documentary about Kaczynski and his fears of what technology will do to humanity. In a way, his fears have already come true. It's only getting worse from here on out.
One of his ideas was that technology was using humanity to give birth to itself, like an unconscious process (similar to evolution) whereby humanity becomes the discarded husk that technology metamorphosed within. I think he's right, sadly. If things keep going the way they are, we will all die and robots will be all that's left. I'm not even doing sci-fi hypothesis here either. This is our actual fate 100%.

you're already on "the list" if you visit Jow Forums regularly

He bombed people as a result of the MK-ULTRA shit they did to him when he was in school.

He wasn't the kind of guy to do such a thing, all of the abuse scarred him for life.

Ted is basically the ultimate patsy, he was correct about 90% of what he writes about and that's why they pushed him over the edge in college.

Thanks user

It was mentioned in the new biography of Linkola. He never replied or read the letters. If you mean how well Linkola is known, he is well-known and people either love him or hate him. A prophet or a village idiot depending on who you ask.

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TED!

Hi yeah, no. There was internet then. Everyone read it. Probably not in your country but we all read it. Like ffs Finland had internet in 1996, you just weren't alive yet rofl or your parents said no. What you're seeing now is the amnesia of idiots. Basically smart people remember things and idiots are easily manipulated by their emotions. Old idiots convert young idiots the best.

>One of his ideas was that technology was using humanity to give birth to itself, like an unconscious process (similar to evolution) whereby humanity becomes the discarded husk that technology metamorphosed within.

youtu.be/a60elZZyTF4

That's what Elon Musk said recently

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Thanks, hopefully an English translation is available soon. Also does it mention anything about the death of a child?

Even my own genius did suffer a alight bump in the same year; it seems that even the wisest make mistakes once in twentyfive years. In autumn 1962 I deduced that a baby girl six months old will surely endure the measly ten hours with me that a fishing trip requires, when it adjusts to it every day since summer. But at late October, the child began to die in my arms and I was forced to go ashore.
penttilinkola com/pentti_linkola/ecofascism_writings/translations/voisikoelamavoittaa_translation/II%20-%20Nature/

His website is also pretty concise
penttilinkola com/pentti_linkola/ecofascism/

whoah

No mention of a dead child. None of his children died.

hivemind lol

btw for anybody interested in a more neutral look at technology watch this

youtu.be/pSnPa1mWgK0

I love Gibson's work but he's become such a partisan hack in the last 10 years or so it's sad

Yeah that was weird. That was the first thing that came to my mind when I read what you said.

Who let all the fucking leftists in? Free market development of technology is a good thing for a whole host of reasons. The most obvious one being that it is one of the only ways to cope with your proposed problem of overpopulation.
Should we have just chilled on the innovation stuff before we discovered the cure for polio? The pacemaker?
I’ll acknowledge the hole in my argument that things like AIDS should have been allowed to run their course tho.
Ted was an intelligent guy limited by a fucking hinderance of an ideology.

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>Should we have just chilled on the innovation stuff before we discovered the cure for polio? The pacemaker?
unironically yes, the death march of technology and capitalism is the most grave threat the human race ever faced outside of rare but cataclysmic asteroid impacts, and it's our own doing

Hello Google!

>pacemaker
Yeah, we really need morbidly obese 80 year olds to squeeze out a few extra years

As for our constitutional rights, consider for example that of freedom of the press. We certainly don’t mean to knock that right; it is very important tool for limiting concentration of political power and for keeping those who do have political power in line by publicly exposing any misbehavior on their part. But freedom of the press is of very little use to the average citizen as an individual. The mass media are mostly under the control of large organizations that are integrated into the system. Anyone who has a little money can have something printed, or can distribute it on the Internet or in some such way, but what he has to say will be swamped by the vast volume of material put out by the media, hence it will have no practical effect. To make an impression on society with words is therefore almost impossible for most individuals and small groups. Take us (FC) for example. If we had never done anything violent and had submitted the present writings to a publisher, they probably would not have been accepted. If they had been been accepted and published, they probably would not have attracted many readers, because it’s more fun to watch the entertainment put out by the media than to read a sober essay. Even if these writings had had many readers, most of these readers would soon have forgotten what they had read as their minds were flooded by the mass of material to which the media expose them. In order to get our message before the public with some chance of making a lasting impression, we’ve had to kill people.

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Hello spooked tin foil hat manlet! Please elaborate

meh. he had some good critiques, but I think his philosophy was largely a product of his CIA mindfucking and him being an uberautiste. frankly his bombings were retarded because they didn't harm actual technocrats, just randos and middle managers. also his cabin is not aesthetic.

>Should we have just chilled on the innovation stuff before we discovered the cure for polio? The pacemaker?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioral_sink

you fucking retard

free market development of technology is the only reason we have an overpopulation in the first place.

And it isn't even so much about overpopulation as it is about the development of metropolitan cities that breed corruption and leftism.

He didn't kill enough people

All diseases should be allowed to run their course. The resilient survive and pass on their genes to their children. By trying to prevent or cure every single ailment we are allowing the weak to pass on their genes, and interrupting evolution itself.

Got me there. But would you argue that you would be better off without all of the vaccines you’ve received?

Literally talked about uncle ted as much as I could in my undergrad years, scared the fuck out of one of my retarded professors who thought ted was mcveigh

Free market development of technology is the only reason we’re having this conversation, though your idiotic retorical leaps certainly make me think twice about its utility

Ok, that passage always confused me. Thanks again

The number of vaccines a child receives today compared to the 70's or 80's in much higher.

Do you have any studies proving that there aren't any long-term health consequences of this increase of vaccinations?

Vaccines are only used because certain population has to be maintained in order for the political and economic elite to live lives of luxury at the expense of the worker.

The acid test would be to see how many of the elite's children are vaccinated.

Ikr. Cant even send my kids to school with a peanut butter sandwich anymore because of all the fucking peanut allergies. Just a thought, but maybe if you're so fragile that just being in the same room with a peanut can kill you, maybe you weren't meant to live.

>retorical leap

It's rhetorical for one, and for two, it was a dialectical proposition. You're suggesting that humanity could maintain it's current population without modern technology. That's utterly retarded.

And the utility of the internet isn't even what we're talking about here, we could easily be having this conversation by a campfire in the middle of nowhere, the Internet and many other industrial inventions exist only as a mechanism to increase productivity. The thread is about whether or not the technology is hurting us more than helping us, not whether or not it's useful (it quite obviously is).

Fucking retard.

These are compelling arguments, and I’ll credit you for that. I’d bet your kids are vaccinated and even if you say it was to qualify for school enrollment, you would have vaccinated them to some extent anyways.
I hope my kids are born immune to fucking everything but I’m not putting their lives on the craps table for the good of the whole. Sorry fellas

I'm just talking about shit like peanut allergies. I'm with you on vaccines. If anyone doubts the effectiveness of vaccines, all they need to do is look at the stats on anti-vaxxer kids getting BTFO by easily preventable disease.

If Jamal up there from Sweden is really serious about letting all diseases run their course, then hopefully he's not washing his hands after taking a shit or drinking filtered water. You know, bcuz immunity n sheeeit.

eco-fascist death squads when?

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Right about every god damned thing

his diagnosis was correct. his proposed solution is asinine.

Is anybody else watching this? Great stuff.
1:08 - 1:16 blew my mind.

yeah it's really good

Hmmmm..glorifying serial killers...

This thread glows in the dark.

yeah but he fucking SUCKS at building cabins

reading this and remembering some cunt in my environmental politics class who unironically declared he gets most of his information from john oliver because he is more entertaining to watch than scholarly debates

glorification and acknowledging someone is right about something are two completely separate things

ted wasted his potential by killing people and rotting in prison

he'd have a much larger impact on society were he to have been published without murdering people

that shed is incredibly high-tech. why didn't he live in a cave? totally doable.

see 1:46:00 - 1:48:00

True. He was out for revenge as much as anything. Also borderline mad because of it.

I know it's out there. Guy isn't wrong at all. It's just unfortunate that he ultimately judged bombings as the only effective outlet, but as another user mentioned, he was literally MKUltra'd... Ted would have unbelievable reach with his message today on YouTube or a podcast.

Well.... then again maybe not. The bombings might have been the only thing for him to do. Not saying they're right but I can't analyze the guy, I'm a fucking Leaf on pol and he was a literal genius.

The documentary says he was working on a version without errors. This was made in 2001. Did he ever come out with a corrected Manifesto?

If you watch that "The Net" docu posted earlier they go into the Rockefellers and the origins of Cybernetics.

Pretty sure he figured out that MK-ULTRA was part of the plan to turn us all into "cybernetic" individuals and they were testing on him to understand how high-IQ individuals react to the "cybernetification" if you will.

There's a Netflix show about him that's actually somewhat fair of a portrayal of his early childhood, I guess the dude had issues with women too (probably on autism spectrum) but either way the establishment made the monster he turned into.

it's not available if you're buying it from a publisher pretty sure the only way to get an unredacted/unmodified version of it is to literally mail him which is probably the worst idea ever.

I didn't hear one mention of the Rockefellers. I think he was fundamentally damaged by the experiments they did on him at Harvard (video tapes have subsequently disappeared). Take away the bombings and like another user, he would be a counter-culture hero on par with Jordan Peterson today.

Given 25% of the population are on anti-depressants, 100% of the population are mentally ill, most people are physically ill, I would say that neither can anybody else.

>This is our actual fate 100%.
We can go back.

>Free market development of technology is a good thing for a whole host of reasons.
>The most obvious one being that it is one of the only ways to cope with your proposed problem of overpopulation.
The only reason the population could have possibly exploded is due to technology itself you retard. You have not even studied this topic at all.

It is not even possible to feed all the people on earth without modern technology, factory farming, and so on.