Yugoslavia thread

I’m curious on Jow Forums‘s thoughts on Yugoslavia. Could Yugoslavia at one point been considered a success? Before the obvious ethnic tensions and wars. Would Yugoslavia had ever worked? Or was it doomed from the start. Talking to people who lived in the former Yugoslavia (Bosnians, Croatians, Serbs) many pointed out to a sense of unity amongst southern Slavs and many reminisce about their life prior to its demise.

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Well all my relatives tell me the soviet thought policing was unbearable. They are mostly diaspora though, so the sample is obviously biased.

*Communist thought policing

It was a success for as long as the loans and reserves lasted, or in other words, not a success. It was bound to fail at one point. While the unity among south Slavs was a good thing, it was also forced, which meant the backlash was that much severe.

Do you think Southern Slav countries really have much hope, without some sort of unity whether social, ethnic or economic? Obviously Slovenia is doing quite well on its own, but virtually all other republics aren’t experiencing any success post break up

>Could Yugoslavia at one point been considered a success?
No because because they were not autonomous.
The banks were paying everything and it collapsed when they could not afford the bills.
It was artificial.
The only good thing was the peace in the region and the moral quality of its people.
Rest is bullshit propaganda from each side.
Yugoslavia could works during more time if it was Serbian leadership (with a king and one nation).

Gib back Kosovo. It is legitimate Romanian clay.

>Could work with Serbian leadership

Giving an imbalance of power to one ethnic group, clearly isn’t a way it would work. It would just be to serve Serb interests and would lead very quickly to discontent amongst the other republics. That’s basically what happened with Yugoslavia anyways. Power grabs after Tito’s death led to division and eventually its collapse

If I were to rule Yugoslavia, Kosovo would become the first Romanian exclave.

Enclave*

Yugoslavia was the only example in the world of working socialism,dont listen to these bullshit loans credits etc,USA government has 21 trillion debt,Yuggoslavia was destroyed because it had the only system in the world which was more successful then western free market capitalism,thus it had to be destroyed so that banks can still occupy and control your lives,but more people are beggining to understand left right paradigm is bullshit as it is all owned by bankers,plus yugoslavia had catholic orthodox muslim unity,in other words in was way ahead of its time.In yugoslav economic theory,the system was called selfcontrolled,meaning workers had shares of company not the state,you had free market but it was regulated,and workers got free houses etc.It was a heaven on earth until bankers in USA UK pissed on it

No Crime,No drugs,people played sports etc.no western degeneracy and most important everyone was equal,meaning everyone hanged out with everyone,now you cant hang out with "cool" kids if you dont have money,school means nothing now,total degradation of values today.All of this was caused by evil globalists and pedophiles elites who couldnt stand seeing humanity prosper as it was in Yugoslav state

> you had free market but it was regulated

So happy we don't have to live like this anymore

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So dont listen to these comments it has loans etc.the most important thing was the equality factor,people just loved each other,we never locked our doors for example,your neighboors where like brothers to you,you shared everything,these are things you wont hear on CNN

People who werent born at those times dont understand,having money was not important,being richy and flexing was considered a thief,it was the healthiest childhood and society on planet.Every Yugoslav movie was a comedy laughing,no crimes,no killings,you could go to church etc.Plus yugoslavia was before socialism an agricultural society.Our Science institutions were the best on planet,thats why you have so much Serbs Croats working on Harvard etc.

It was just a different world from this globalists crap,now Hollywood idiots are considered stars,kids are hanging in front of pc rotting all days,eating mcdonalds in this self centerd society,total americanisation of planet.Girls werent whores like today,those were just some simpler and better times for ordinary people

Love you Serbbro, but let's be honest. Serbians in Yugoslavia felt above the rest. Centralist. I mean, from your viewpoint it might seem normal, but the rest were forced to "play" with you. Especially after Tito's death.

Do you think the rise in nationalism amongst the republics was a ploy set up by the west, to destroy Yugoslavia? What evidence is there to back this up? I genuinely curious on your take on this.

This is one thing I’ve learnt from many Yugoslavs who aren’t Serbs, following Tito’s death, Yugoslavia turned from Unity and allegiance to Tito. To an increasingly Serbianised state, in which other groups, were forced to work within boundaries set by Serbs.

Isn't half of your population from ex-yu?

>Serbbro, but let's be honest. Serbians in Yugoslavia felt above the rest. Centralist. I mean, from your viewpoint it might seem normal, but the rest were forced to "play" with you. Especially after Tito's death

Yes i agree thats why american government put Milosevic in power to destabilize and cause war,they murdered Ivan Stambolic who was against milsoevics policies plus Milosevic was working in USA prior to coming to power,the war was caused by big bankers so we become a colony now and so no one questions todays Bankers totalitarian world,in Serbia you have more banks then schools

Not to be too rough on my southern brothers, but usually the people get the kind of country they deserve. The difference in mentality between Slovenes and the majority of Croats, Serbs, etc. is quite apparent, especially in terms of productivity. The gap only widens when you look at Romania.
There are a lot of very productive people from the Balkans, but a lot of them work in Slovenia/Austria/Germany.

The Balkans has a lot of hope in the future, however the people living in it need to come to terms that they need to help themselves. No outside force will suddenly make things right and give them wealth.

>Serbians in Yugoslavia felt above the rest. Centralist.
Just like in Slovenia. Ljubljana is run by a serb, and Koper too. Both are corrupt af and work towards centralisation.

That was the main reason we wanted to break up. We as in Slovenians and Croats. They let us go cause there weren't many Serbs living in Slovenia. But it was a different story for Croatia. Politics "demanded" we take care of ourselves first, while a lot of Croats died in the war. Which is why we're at eachothers throats when speaking politics among eachother. Best to just drink rakija and enjoy.

I think the rate of emigration of young, skilled, educated workers and professionals, from Serbia, Croatia and Bosnia. Has virtually doomed the entire region, more or less permanently. What will be left is an old and aging low IQ populous. With any talent and hope, leaving for better opportunities abroad. Many “yugoslavs” recognise this as a reality.

Of course,all the heads of government in 1990 who were put in power (Milosevic,Tudjman,Seselj) where considered violent criminials plotting against country and some were even in jail,so Bankers in USA put them in power after 1980s in order to cause brother war,at those times without internet people where manipulated using historical propaganda etc. and war was needed to show that Socialist system doesnt work,they turned Croats against Serbs Muslims etc using race and faith etc. and bribing low life unschooled uneducated crooks to conudct their policies

>clearly isn’t a way it would work
It works everywhere, anytime. That's the only way.
One group shoulfd take a lead and impose.
>Power grabs after Tito’s death led to division and eventually its collapse
Yugoslavia collapsed because Germany wanted so and because the banks said stop with the free money.
Open a book.

Yes true 100 % ,this region is dead in 10 years

Other groups are going to oppose, it’s not a feasible reality. Why Serbs Specifically? Why not Croats for example?

Yugoslavia collapsed because Germany wanted so and because the banks said stop with the free money.
We had our own banks,plus stop free money? And what is USA if not money printing machine in which dollar is based on debt not on gold? Whole west is a debt economy to bankers

No enclave. The whole Balkans is Romanian clay.

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>Or was it doomed from the start.
Everything controlled by the Serbs is doomed from the start. If we ever gave Yugoslavia another try, it should be very centralized and controlled by Croats and Slovenians.

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>We had our own banks

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There needs to be radical reforms across the board, however the status quo serves the powers that be. Croatia’s ties to the EU lessens the blow. Why don’t Bosnia or Serbia just become low corporate Tax havens like Monaco, it would at least stimulate some economic activity

>And what is USA if not money printing machine in which dollar is based on debt not on gold? Whole west is a debt economy to bankers
USA is an empire. The banks is supporting them until they can change of horse.
I agree for the debt economy in the west.
The thing is the banks didn't tell us "stop with the free money".

>entire balkan to be financed by tiny Slovenia
>why did it not work?

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I see a lot of propaganda around here stimulating people to open businesses in Bosnia, especially due to low taxation. Didn't notice any ad advocating Serbia tho.

kuku lele ovo je fakat tužno
još sam mislio da su hrvati tolilko mnogo bolji od srba i bosanaca a ono dsl samo slovenija (i istra, koja je, svakako, slovenačka)

This was a shithole, based on communism and genocide. Even today in Slovenia, we have not fully recovered from the damage that was done to our people by the communist regime. Communism is evil, morally wrong and it does not work as an economic system.

I don’t have a dog in this fight. All I’m saying is that the situations in both Serbia and Bosnia are beyond repair. Only hope is to become some sort of tax haven of sorts to stimulate any economic activity. These countries can’t function like normal states, not at this point.

I wasn't trying to argue, but it is true that Bosnia is trying to be a tax haven.

go back to facebook you boomer fucking faggot

I see more and more asian qt3,14's visiting Slovenia (vacation, sightseeing). Are we some kind of hotspot over there?

IMO Macedonia was totally incompatible with the rest of the yugos. The language was unknown, nobody could understand us, we don't have the banter etc

Yes, marketing is big about Slovenia in Japan, especially Bled. Slovenians also take off their shoes home and like to keep people at a distance and don’t like foreigner It’s “little Japan in Europe”

I love how slovenians always try to oversell themselves, you literaly profited from split of yugoslavia, took all good stuff and none of the crap. But it will come to an end. And then you say serbs and kroats look down on other yugo countries

Slovenia like Japan of europe. Rich and smart and everyone around them monkey

Is taking off your shoes so weird? Why would you want dirt in your home? I thought every country does this. I remember living in a tiny dorm during college and it hurt my soul when friends wanted to keep their shoes on. (even if just sitting down).

Took all the good stuff? Dude, we made all that shit. Hell even now, a large percentage of German cars are made from Slovene parts. This isn't because we stole that shit, but we realize that you need to put effort if you want to have it good. The only thing we stole was lot of immigrants that wanted a better life (before moving to Germany).

I thought everyone was so civilized to take off their shoes at home?! What kind of savage do you need to be to dirty your home?!

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>we are at least civilized in one small part of life
amazing

Bosnia is doing quite well if you ask me. After traveling through rural Croatia, Serbia and Bosnia, the latter is much better compared to the former two. Rural Serbia is really sad to look at, especially since Beograd is such a nice city.

It sounds so alien to not take your shoes off. Which countries don't take their shoes off? I need to know this.

We arec ompatible cause of civilization, feeling superior to albos, greeks and east balkans

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Fucking dirty Anglos don’t take them off, not taking your shoes off is a fucking disgrace. Especially keeping dogs indoors and especially letting them sleep on your bed and lick you. Fucking revolting.

this. People who go with shoes in house need to be shot
čefurji=gaijin

Mutts and niggers who dont know anything about our history or culture want a new yugoslavia.stop it you degenerate nigger fuckers,it didnt work and it will never work

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