USS Liberty

Can someone tell me about the possible causes of the ship's massacre?

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egypt did it

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Jews were afraid they would lose the conflict during what would end up being called the 6 day war. As an insurance policy, they decided to coerce the US into coming to their aid during day 2 of that conflict, the same way they coerced them into WWII against Hitler. It wouldn't be the first time, or the last, that they would use the US's military power as muscle against other countries they were trying to dominate. They always start wars and always get others to help them finish them.

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If that's the case, why didn't the sink it?

there was a bunch of Arab and Russia NSA agents on board, in the lower part of the ship.
the fighter jets shot the ship with 30mm rounds and then 15 minutes later the ship was hit by a torpedo, killing the NSA agents i just talked about.

Oddly enough, McCain was on that fucking ship, and lived..
and now he's gone.

I'D LIKE TO SOLVE THE PUZZLE

WHAT IS "THOSE WHO CLAIM TO BE JEWS AND ARE NOT, BUT DO LIE"

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chicagotribune.com/chi-liberty_tuesoct02-story.html

interdasting read.

oh lawd, this came out in 2007 as well, oberma was elected in 2008 and hillary was supposed to win 2016..
all of this shit would have stayed under wraps.. all types of anti-israel shit is popping up right now
seems like the PSYOP may be coming for israel soon

Classical Jew tactics. They goad and prod without doing anything too drastic, because if they are caught, there is more to pay on the backend. Jew 101, my man.

"Rear Adm. Merlin Staring, the Navy's former judge advocate general, was asked to assess the American inquiry's report before it was sent to Washington. But Staring said it was taken from him when he began to question some aspects of the report. He describes it now as "a hasty, superficial, incomplete and totally inadequate inquiry."

Staring, who is among those calling for a full congressional investigation on behalf of the Liberty's survivors, observed in an interview that the inquiry report contained several "findings of fact" unsupported by testimony or evidence.

One such finding ignored the testimony of several inquiry witnesses that the American flag was flying during the attack, and held that the "available evidence combines to indicate the attack on LIBERTY on 8 June was in fact a case of mistaken identity."

There are also apparent omissions in the inquiry's report. It does not include, for example, the testimony of a young lieutenant, Lloyd Painter, who was serving as officer of the deck when the attack began. Painter said he testified that an Israeli torpedo boat "methodically machine-gunned one of our life rafts" that had been put over the side by crewmen preparing to abandon ship.

Painter, who spent 32 years as a Secret Service agent after leaving the Navy, charged that his testimony about the life rafts was purposely omitted.

Ward Boston recalled that, after McCain's one-week deadline expired, Kidd took the record compiled by the inquiry "and flew back to Washington, and I went back to Naples," the headquarters of the 6th Fleet.

"Two weeks later, he comes back to Naples and calls me from his office," Boston recalled in an interview. "In that deep voice, he said, 'Ward, they aren't interested in the facts. It's a political issue and we have to put a lid on it. We've been ordered to shut up.'

they tried to sink it, they just fucking suck at physical war games.

1:56 p.m. Two Israeli Mirage III aircraft, followed by two Super Mystere aircraft, begin their attack on the Liberty.

2:14 p.m. The chief Israeli air controller in Tel Aviv tells the controller who is directing the attack on the Liberty that the ship is "apparently American."

2:20 p.m. The Israeli naval commander orders the commander of the Torpedo Boat Division to attack the Liberty. At almost the same time, the Naval Operations Branch orders: "Do not attack. It is possible that the aircraft have not identified correctly." The commander of the Torpedo Boat Division says he never got any order to cease the attack, although the deputy commander says he passed the message to the commander.

2:24 p.m. Liberty sights three MTBs 4-5 miles away and closing fast.

2:26 p.m. Liberty raises its largest American flag, the "Holiday colors."

2:27 p.m. Three torpedo boats begin strafing the Liberty and launch their six torpedoes.


i'd say six torpedos from three warboats would be considered "trying" to sink it.

MTB = Motor Torpedo Boat

Hebrews being Hebrews.

Was there a point where the Liberty managed to get a message out and inform the navy it was being attacked by the Israelis?

yeah, in the article it said that all of the tapes were handed over, i think i copied it above too. if you have a few minutes, givea read

they were handed over to Israel*
you and i both know that the US government had something to do with covering it up
everyone from that ship is dead now, i believe... including McCain
i think we'll probably get the truth soon. last year was the 50th anniversary

I buy this completely. Every bit of it makes sense. The Jews are perpetual fuckups and half assers in what they do and it resonates as 100% true that they would try and fail at a false flag.

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"Israel later admitted to the attack. It paid more than $3.2 million to the families of those killed and over $3.5 million to 74 of the wounded by 1969. Then, in 1980, it paid the U.S. $6 million for damages to the ship’s communications equipment. But the governments of Israel and the U.S. refuse to say the attack was purposeful even though cryptographers and techs aboard the Liberty – including Grantski – intercepted messages they believe inferred the Israelis staged the attack to make it look like Egypt or other members of the Arab coalition did it in order to draw the U.S. into the war on Israel’s side.

“I had top-secret crypto clearance – the highest you could get,” Grantski said. His job was to copy the messages transmitted. “They would change the station in the middle of a message and someone else would say, ‘Ski, he’s on .. ’ whatever station, and I’d switch to that one.’ They were using lots of Morse Code, and sending at 50 to 70 words per minute, which is pretty darned fast to be copying in code.”

One message in particular stood out.

“I had intercepted a message the Israelis were going to attack (a U.S.) base and blame it on the Arabs, or implied so,” he said. The message forwarded as top-secret to the White House. “Unbeknownst to us, it was our ship that was going to be attacked.”

He’d just finished his shift and was smoking a cigarette on the fantail when the captain sounded the call to general quarters. In came the fighter planes with their 20 mm cannons blasting away, some dropping napalm that sent the crew scrambling to get below deck.

Grantski felt the burning of the napalm on his hands and later took shrapnel in the buttocks, wounds for which he received a Purple Heart."

“The captain had the ship zig-zagging,” he said. “They fired five torpedoes. One hit.”

It blew a huge hole in the side. The crew closed the hatches to keep the ship afloat, but most of those killed were below deck.

“I was down there on my first cruise,” Grantski said. “If I had still be down there, I’d have been dead. The captain (William L. McGonagle) was wounded. He ran the ship on his back, with an aide holding a megaphone so he could give orders.”

At one point, someone told the crew to prepare to abandon ship – an order McGonagle quickly overruled.

“He said, ‘Gentlemen’,” Grantski recalled, “ ‘get to your battle stations. We are not abandoning ship’.”

The attack, according to accounts, lasted about 80 minutes though it seemed much longer to those aboard. U.S. fighter planes never arrived to drive off the attackers. Grantski said the image of the fires, the blood and carnage are etched in his mind forever.

“It was 50 years ago, and its sharp like it was yesterday,” he said.

But those days are over for Grantski and those who believe the Israeli attack not only was intentional, but also that the Johnson administration likely ordered the coverup, ruled accidental in a game of international politics. Grantski isn’t alone. Admiral Thomas H. Moorer wrote a detailed 1997 memorandum that is posted on USSLiberty.org.

passages from that document:

“Israel knew perfectly well that the ship was American. After all, the Liberty's American flag and markings were in full view in perfect visibility for the Israeli aircraft that overflew the ship eight times over a period of nearly eight hours prior to the attack,” Moorer wrote. “I am confident that Israel knew the Liberty could intercept radio messages from all parties and potential parties to the ongoing war, then in its fourth day, and that Israel was preparing to seize the Golan Heights from Syria despite President Johnson's known opposition to such a move. I think they realized that if we learned in advance of their plan, there would be a tremendous amount of negotiating between Tel Aviv and Washington.”

And Moorer questioned why U.S. air support for the ship never arrived.

“In the Liberty case, fighters were put in the air not once, but twice. They were ordered to stand down by Secretary of Defense McNamara and President Johnson for reasons the American public deserves to know,” Thomas wrote. “The captain and crew of the Liberty, rather than being widely acclaimed as the heroes they most certainly are, have been silenced, ignored, honored belatedly and away from the cameras, and denied a history that accurately reflects their ordeal.”

The USS Liberty Association will meet in Norfolk, Va., on Wednesday to mark the 50-year anniversary of the attack. Only 20 then, the 70-year-old Grantski has health problems that will prevent him from joining the 150 or so surviving crew members. He will be with them in spirit, though, and half a century later his goal remains unchanged.

Their radio's were being jammed during the attack. The reason it was so easy for them is because they knew what frequency the americans would be using.

hey! thanks for bumping this, i thought people lost interest
there's so much shady shit behind USS Liberty. it needs to come out, i don't even care if all parties have to be dead for the truth to finally come out. It is going to cast a shadow on both governments and our historical ties

They were sunk possibly because they were monitoring Israeli war crimes, or maybe Israel was trying to frame Egypt, theres no knowing for sure, but the sinking was intentional, they knew it was American.

I agree with you
we were spying on them. we had arab and russian agents on board and they were decoding israeli messages.
I'm positive that they shot at the ship knowingly

what i want to know is: did the johnson admin really cover it up?
If israel tried to play it off as an accident, the administration HAD TO CHOOSE TO BELIEVE THE NARRATIVE and then take part in the cover up - to save ties between the govs

Kremlin psyops to flood Jow Forums with threads that blame Israel.

some say failed false flag attempt, but seems more likely (((they))) knew they could get away with it.
>goy is electronic spying on us
>let us murder him
They knew there would be no repercussions. Indeed, it was the US.gov that covered for them. Never forget, white man. Know your enemy.

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>kremlin
lmfao get out of here commie

Machine-gunning the lifeboats was a war crime that Israel will never be taken to task for, because Jews are super special and we have to protect them goyim!

classic show of force to remind some gang-ho amerilards about who owns them
imagine being a fucking amerijoke after this

>McCain gonna die
>oh maybe not! treatment is going well
>uhoh.jpg
>pull the plug pls, i cannot be here for what is about to happen
>McCain is dead and his family will be left out of the shitstorm that is coming.

and the embarrassing thing is that this the number1/2 nuclear power we're talking about here
they could erase israel in 2 minutes

I never understand the cognitive dissonance of military vets who are mad about the Liberty but are still like muh America's greatest ally

stupid. they aren't.

>beautiful understanding of political history
>nukes lmao cute.. ayyy
do you have anything of substance to say, or are you content with being retarded on the subject?

what an embarrassing post
bet you have a cut-dick as well, wouldn't that be funny

Daily reminder there are shareblue shills working day and night in order to defame Israel and create dissent among the MAGA crowd when talking about our allies in the middle east. Do not fall for the bait these glow in the darks throw at you, they are simply implementing d&c tactics to weaken us. We are stronger together and in all honesty we have more important matters at hand (namely the mid terms on Tuesday) Get out and vote red, no matter what we must secure majority victory. If you give the demonrats an inch they will take a mile. Sage and report this thread.

But rabbi, you ARE shareblue! Really get the fuck outta here. Israel is fucked and it's funny to me THIS is the thread you choose to defend them on. Pathetic kike. I hope you know I'm going to smile when Israel burns and we kick you kikes out of MY country. It's coming sooner than you think.

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>what an embarrassing post
>more content
>reeeeee circumcision!!
is this what it's like to debate with a based Austrian?
You don't speak to people often, do you?

Hitler did nothing wrong

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Fuck you. Until you realize how much of a threat that Israel poses for this country, you are complicit in what they are doing to undermine our way of life. Do you think that Trump is really so in love with Israel? He's playing ball with them to keep the peace, but I promise you that if they tried shit on his watch that they pulled in '67 with the Liberty, he would react to them quickly, decisively and extremely harshly.

So take your whining about shills and shove it up your hypocritical ass, Schlomo. And to thank you for stopping by, here is your reward.

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I can't wait for the red wave come Tuesday
you shills are FUCKED, can't wait

>US Navy eavesdrops on Israeli radio communications
>Israelis chimp out and blow up the ship

It's really that simple.

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Enjoy your cognitive dissonance.