Was Morrowind an attempt at normalizing Islam in the West?
Azura's ring and the Neraverine are both called: Moon and Star and look very similar to the Moon and Star of Islam.
Player can visit a strip club and view the erotic dancers
God-Poet Vivec is a literal tranny with an Indian name
Worship of false gods is prevalent
The empire that is trying to colonize and modernize Vvardenfell is shown in a negative light
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>Oh no, a moon and star. I've never seen that in the sky before.
>Erotic dancers aren't western. BROWN PEOPLE AND JOOS INTRODUCED SEX. White people, don't have any sexual thoughts or feelings or you might reproduce one of these day!
>If (even an obviously false) God isn't a male with a penis who likes to shove his penis into fertile women, it's stupid. Mythology never had any questionable sexuality of gods.
>Is Middle Earth trying to normalize degeneracy? The worship of false gods is prevalent.
>Colonization is a good thing. Let the foreigners come and take over. Rememba the Indians, goy!
Better question:
Why are leafs so fucking dumb?
I am monitoring this dumbass thread because i like it
Just dumping my morrowind memes, anyone have the steamed hams variant?
Degenerates.
No, they were trying to make the Ashlanders seem weird as fuck and hostile and backwards and foreign. You were supposed to feel like a stranger in a foreign land. All those things you mentioned are part of making the player feel alienated.
Here's a quick rundown on Morrowind if you're fucking normie trash and don't know what a real mans game looks like
>The empire that is trying to colonize and modernize Vvardenfell is shown in a negative light
No it's not, the glorious Empire was bringing proper civilization to those benighted grayskins.
>Tribunal get BTFO'd by the Oblivion Crisis
>Ashlanders vindicated, and they restore the Anticipations
>These gods have portfolios that contain lovely things like murder, lies, and conspiracy
>Azura is pretty benign, though
Also, keep in mind that the Dunmer became niggers when the Tribunal underwent apotheosis
Seemed p redpilled to me desu
>Dunmer became niggers
No, their slaves came and conquered half of their country and demanded more gimmedats from the dunmer.
Hippity hoppity argonians are property.
Skyrim is 20x better then morrowind. Morrowwind fags should just commit suicide
I loved Morrowind.
>when you make an absolutely abhorrent post
Azura was literally so assmad at the Tribunal for using Kagrenac's Tools she turned the Chimer into shitskins
And ofc they had to use non-human races (albeit with suspiciously niggardly behavior) as slaves to not trigger anyone. I wonder what kind of ruckus Redguard slaves would've caused.
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In Oblivion, redguards start with negative intelligence.
Please this meme needs to die. I actually played morrowind a few days ago it doesnt hold up in the slightest. Game is buggy, choppy, the dialogue isnt NEARLY as varied as you remember it being. Character creation is meh at best. The rpg elements were solid if you're a hardcore rpg fag but zoomers would find it nigh unplayable considering how dumbed down the modern rpg has become. Having to use siltstriders to get everywhere sucks donkey balls in a modern game it would be more bearable because shit looks nicer but the environment is just so bland and barren . The lore is great and when you get into the major cities they're bigger than the shit in skyrim and funner to explore but those are the two best parts.
The dialogue is the only thing that kills it for me. Reading the same shit infinite times sucks. Wasn't even voice acted. Don't tell me they couldn't had done more.
>we wuz pirates n sheeit, amn't need nona that gay af edumakashun, shit's fo them piss skins. Sheeeeiiittttttt.
A suspicious number of bandits were Redguards in Oblivion. You were always fighting the same damn couple of female Redguards. Hunting bandits felt more like putting down a KFC riot.
>ayo homes, you do realize i's been holdin' back, aight?
Sorry zoomerfag but Morrowind is the best in the franchise by fucking far.
A lot of Baldur's Gate isn't voiced either, still one of the best RPG's ever made.
My point is if you don't have voice acting, you can't claim you couldn't had written more diverse dialogue.
Morrowind was in no way meant to represent modern politics, and the factions in the game aren't ever represented as good or evil.
Are you stupid?
Even Skyrim had shite dialogue, so do their Fallout games. Great dialogue and stories aren't part of Bethesda games for the most part, imo their only game that some good dialogue was Oblivion but it was a dumbed down game compared to Morrowind.
In Skyrim the dialogue is more diverse and if you're heard it before you can easily skip it. Hell, 90% of the time it's greyed out if you've heard it. Not the same book about silt striders from every dunmer in Vvardenfell.
Shhhh let the Morrobabbies keep thinking that their nostalgic fueled remembrance of a passable game for it's time, is anywhere near a masterpiece, or anywhere near as good or complex as the previous games. ;^)
Nobody sensible praises Morrowind for the gameplay.
The story and setting are the major sells.
If dialogue is such a big thing for you in game go and play paint by numbers follow line to cutscene games. Does dialogue add to a game yes but it is not more important than gameplay and Skyrim is braindead zoomer tier compared to Morrowind.
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Nah the gameplay was great, no braindead follow this marker or magic breadcrumb aids faggotry. You actually had to read directions and navigate yourself, actually explore.
If you like games for the gameplay, you should play DnD. If you want graphics, you should just watch a movie.
I thought Nords had the same INT as Redguards, but that the elfs, Cyrodilians and Breton humans had higher INT.
I was referring mostly to the actual combat.
I think the RPG mechanics and the exploration are plenty of fun, but the combat just isn't fun.
normies dont even know what morrowind is u retarded faget
3 white races
1 black race
100% of blacks are low IQ
33% of whites are low IQ
>If you play vidya for gameplay play a boardgame about moving plastic pieces around.
Trash tier rebuttal.
Vivec is a literal traitor and degenerate, so I don't think they were trying to normalize his faggot bullshit.
It's ok when you get your skills up, combat is pretty shit early on where everything misses though, i'll concede that.
Also the Empire wasn't shown in a negative or positive light, if anything they were clearly more civilized than the dunmer natives who enslaved other races. They also performed necromancy, albeit "sanctioned by the state" necromancy.
>literally defending a game that had shit animations, shit texturing and graphics for it's time, shit fov, shit combat system, shit Wikipedia entry dumpi - I mean "dialogue", and a casualized mess from the previous games
Lmfao at your nostalgia.
Even when your stats are higher it's still mostly comprised of clicking everything to death with a couple spells thrown in.
What did Daggerfall and Arena have that Morrowind didn't?
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Better roleplaying mechanics, much better combat, better dialogue, decent graphics for it's time, larger world with NPC's that actually had AI instead of brainlessly standing around all day and night, better fast travel system, more varied and unique armors and with the way you can put them on, the game wasn't afraid to show a little skin (unlike games that came afterwards that were pussies about not wanting to get too strong of a rating), etc. You can pretty much go on and on, which is why I always get mad when you get these Morrofags coming along going HURR MOREOHWIND IS TEH BEST ELDER SCROLLS AND THE BEST RPG AND THE MOST COMPLEX ONE HURR DURR. It's blatantly obvious that Morrowind was the first rpg game they ever played, and that they most likely have never played any other Elder Scrolls game (or RPG game for that matter).
>moon and star predates Islam, and was prominent in ancient Semitic legends and symbolism, which obviously strongly influenced the culture of the Dunmer
>Vivec's hermaphrodite status was a result of a curse by Azura (goddess of the true Dunmer/Chimer pantheon) for the Tribunal's treachery and killing of Nerevar
>worship of false gods is BTFO'd throughout the course of the entire game
>Nerevarine (incarnation of Nerevar) literally kills Almalexia and makes Vivec look like a cuck whilst gaining the trust of the old believing Ashlanders
>The empire of Cyrodiil was riddled with corruption and expansionist from its conception
>Dunmer were simply defending their homeland
>"but muh strip clubs!"
I think you're a retard
>Was Morrowind an attempt at normalizing Islam in the West?
No
> Azura's ring and the Neraverine are both called: Moon and Star and look very similar to the Moon and Star of Islam.
Azura is the daedrin prince of dawn and dusk, pretty well symolized through something that looks nothing like the islamic crescent
> Player can visit a strip club and view the erotic dancers
Erotic entertainment is classical degeneracy, and its inclusion (and the fact that many of them are skoom addicts) is an attempt at highlighting the degeneracy and giving validity to the claims of the Ashlanders that the empire brought degeneracy to Vvardenfell
> God-Poet Vivec is a literal tranny with an Indian name
You have the option of killing him and still completing the game.
> Worship of false gods is prevalent
Almalexia is demonstrated to be an incompetent conniving Jew who betrays Sotha Sil. She was also the one who tempted them to use Kagernac's tools to achieve godhood against their oath and (allegedly) is the one who talked Vehk into killing Nerevar. Also, killing her is part of the story of the Tribunal expansion.
> The empire that is trying to colonize and modernize Vvardenfell is shown in a negative light
Only from the perspective of the native Ashlanders and their tribes. Join the Imperial Legion if you want their perspective.
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Gothic II also ticks those boxes and was still an excellent game.
You can shit on Morrowind all you want but it still doesn't change the fact that all modern Bethesda games from Oblivion on are designed for braindead retards. They still have shit dialogue, they still have shit animations, they still have shit stories, etc, etc, etc.
In fact what's the point in even playing something like Skyrim when you can just play something like the Witcher, at has all the follow the waypoint crap Bethesda games have but the VA is better, the dialogue is better, the combat is better, the story is better, the side quests are better, the villains are better, the graphics are better, the animations are better, etc.
Diablo combat is crap click spamming as well and the franchise in general is shallow garbage but nobody ever complains about that.
Go watch the Bethesda documentary that came out a few months ago. Todd literally admits that Morrowind was the first game they casualised, and it was so that it could sell well on consoles. And yes Gothic 2 is a better game too, but we're talking about Morrowind here.
ROFL now who's the nostalgia fag.
I literally started playing ALL of the Elder Scrolls games I could, a few years ago. It's not "nostalgia" you dumb brit.
Probably. Shivering Isles had a gnostic-luciferian storyline.
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It may be the first they casualised but it's still far more complex and hardcore than what followed. I have 0 expectations of the next instalment, and what they've done with this Fallout... I hope they end up in financial ruin.
>It's not nostalgia when it's my favourite vidya but it is when it's yours.
I don't like combat in Diablo either.
I found those games and all of their knockoffs to be horribly boring.
Well you're the first person that's agreed with me on that xD. Usually saying anything negative about that franchise leads to an internet mob with pitchforks.
I definitely preferred the dice roll combat to Oblivion and Skyrim, maybe it was just an easier transition since I played Neverwinter Nights before Morrowind though.
I don't mind Path of Exile, personally. Way more complexity in how you set up your abilities.
NWN was good but i found it disappointing at the same time as i hoped it would be more like Baldur's Gate. I really liked NWN 2 though.
>no u
I never stated what my favorite RPG game is. In fact, all I've stated is that Morrowind is neither as great nor as complex as people remember - and in fact, when comparing it to previous games in the series, and others that released at the time, it was lackluster in a lot of departments.
shut the fuck up anyone who uses the term normie is a fucking faggot loser
Well Path of Exile was let's take Diablo 2 and do it better with much more complexity as evidenced by the skill web. Blizzard on the other hand did industry standard of further dumbing down an already shallow and braindead game then garnish it with that gay Pixar aesthetic.
No one is being a heretic here, I hope.
Well all i'm saying is that Oblivion and Skyrim are just as lacklustre to me as Morrowind is to you.
And to add insult to injury, Activision-Blizzard actually made people wait 6 years for a mobile Diablo announcement. I'd laugh if I didn't feel so bad for them.
I never even mentioned Skyrim. And Oblivion isn't even my favorite Elder Scrolls game. But nice try trying to strawman me.