nytimes.com/2018/11/04/us/politics/far-right-internet-trump.html >These posts, which appeared on the politics forum of Jow Forums, an online message board known for hosting extreme speech and graphic imagery, were not a one-off. >These activists cheered when Mr. Trump suggested that the Jewish billionaire George Soros could be secretly funding a caravan of Latin American migrants — a dog-whistle reference to an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory that has been advanced by neo-Nazis and white nationalists for years. >Since the 2016 election, these far-right communities have entered into a sort of imagined dialogue with the president. They create and disseminate slogans and graphics, and celebrate when they show up in Mr. Trump’s Twitter feed days or weeks later. They carefully dissect his statements, looking for hints of their influence. And when they find those clues, they take them as evidence that Mr. Trump is “/ourguy/,” a label for people internet extremists believe share their views, but who are unable to say so directly in public. >Right-wing extremists — a catchall category for a messy constellation of neo-Nazis, white nationalists, crypto-fascists, nihilists and attention-seeking trolls — vary widely in style and ideology. Some congregate out in the open, on forums like Jow Forums >“Trump has officially named the Jew,” wrote one user on Jow Forums. “Trump knows,” wrote another, who said that the “others” Mr. Trump referred to in his tweet might be a sly reference to other shadowy Jewish benefactors. >The ability of online extremists to push, tailor and amplify political messages has turned them into a potent force in the age of internet politics, as candidates and elected officials look to what is popular online to shape their own messages >After Mr. Trump tweeted the “jobs, not mobs” meme, the creator of the image — a Reddit user...declined to be interviewed unless The New York Times paid him $200 an hour for his “memetic warfare consulting” services
written today this place is a pure illusion of anonymity
Nolan Sanders
LMFAO you got me good right at the end.
Julian Edwards
>After Mr. Trump tweeted the “jobs, not mobs” meme, the creator of the image — a Reddit user...declined to be interviewed unless The New York Times paid him $200 an hour for his “memetic warfare consulting” services
so what the fuck? does the press not lurk or are they purposefully misrepresenting this place? its like they are going out of their way to miss the point of this place all together, 98.9 percent of it is humor and in jokes, do they really not get that yet?
>George Soros, a billionaire Democratic fund-raiser, has long been villainized in certain right-wing circles. Now conspiracy theories about him have gone mainstream, to nearly every corner of the Republican Party. >conspiracy
These fake news jews still believe they can lie so boldly even when the internet is forever.
But pols dead, plebbit killed it and the shills and kikes buzz around it like flies around the steaming bloated carcass that it once was Where the fuck have they been?
Christian Gomez
>NYT/WashPO are now regularly writing articles on Jow Forums
Well, you fucking rotten kikes, maybe if you reported the news honestly, you wouldn't be losing all that influence to a loudmouth billionaire and a chinese memesmithing shop.
>Neo Nazis, white nationalists, crypto fascists, nihilists and attention seeking trolls Hey. Did someone just call me an attention seeking troll? That’s terrible.
>After Mr. Trump tweeted the “jobs, not mobs” meme, the creator of the image — a Reddit user who goes by the online pen name “Bryan Machiavelli” and who declined to be interviewed unless The New York Times paid him $200 an hour for his “memetic warfare consulting” services — wrote on Reddit that attention from the president was its own reward.
Who was this dumb user though? Naming Soros isn't "officially naming the jew". Maybe if he named Rothschilds it would be. Soros is small time in the grand scheme of things.
Dominic Flores
This user knows what's up. Jow Forums is a board of peace.
At this point I'm past that point, I welcome whatever this timeline has in store. 2020 can't come soon enough, for better or for worse.
Adam Fisher
. (your head)
Eli Thompson
how do you know these journalists are making these posts and then reporting on them?
everything I say here is satire btw
Charles Butler
>george soros Anyone got any good run downs on him?
I mean, I'm well aware of most of the allegations, but as we all know, it's hard to discern fact from fiction. I don't doubt that the man is dodgy as all hell, but we need to move from "conspiracy" to well documented facts if we want to keep pushing it. And I suggest we do, because it seems like a weak point that could get traction among normies.
The media seem to have their doubts as well, surely it wouldn't be too hard to prove his innocence being such a public figure? Instead they jump straight to ad hominem and labeling it all conspiracy.
>declined to be interviewed unless The New York Times paid him $200 an hour for his “memetic warfare consulting” services kek
Jeremiah Cooper
You disgusting evil Nazis, you'll get judgement soon.
>Even when Mr. Trump denounces extremism, many of his supporters online see it as a begrudging concession, rather than an expression of his true beliefs. Last weekend, as Mr. Trump spoke about the dangers of anti-Semitism in the wake of the mass shooting at the Tree of Life synagogue in Pittsburgh, internet bigots reassured each other that Mr. Trump was still on their side. >“He needs to spin this for the midterms,” one poster on Jow Forums wrote. >“He really is playing 5D chess,” wrote another.
$200 per hour is only a perfectly reasonable rate. As an private agent you’d expect around £200 per hour (25% more). It’s about average. Why doesn’t CNN publish what it regularly pays to similar people who tow the central bank narrative and prove it’s not twisting like Stephen Hawkins on a trampoline?
i can agree with you. but i also know that there are a lot of truly hateful people posting here. (your head) agreed. it is the only thing to say about any reporting on Jow Forums.
Carson Wood
I'M NOT A FUCKING ACTIVIST REEEEE
Nicholas Price
>These posts, which appeared on the politics forum of Jow Forums, an online message board known for hosting extreme speech and graphic imagery, were not a one-off. >extreme speech
What's really pathetic is they always imply it's just Americans using Jow Forums etc. ignoring the global nature of this glorious "fuck you" they are experiencing. Nothing makes me happier to see you cunts butthurt by Trump because we have the exact same cryptokikes here in Spain.
The day of the rope is an international phenomenon they can't understand. Trump, Duerte, Brexit, Salvini,Bolso, and now FN are no.1 in French mep polls. Nothing can stop us, we're shitting all over this globalist fantasy piece by piece, and all for the lulz.
user, the reason this place uses captchas for every single post is because some pedo and his gaggle of retards literally spent months spamming CP. So yes, this place has been on their radar for at least 12 years. Shit sure was temporary, thanks moot.
Adam Brown
Fuck the NYT kicked!
Mason Cruz
This is actually some really good analysis from the NY Times. I'm impressed. Trump's use of far-right trolls is pretty obvious by now and the NY Times has actually called it out. Does this make anyone here feel mad or upset or anything?
The nyt is irrelevant. Nobody in mainstream news understands what is happening, because they are all liberals looking at the world though the same reality distortion field.
It is the alt-everything crowd that is figuring reality out the fastest.
Wyatt Garcia
It's cool. My post was featured on Last Week Tonight on HBO.
Luke Green
>unironically writing an article about an Ugandan scuda diving forum
rent free
Jack Howard
>They carefully dissect his statements, looking for hints of their influence. And when they find those clues, they take them as evidence that Mr. Trump is “/ourguy/ >“Trump has officially named the Jew,” wrote one user on Jow Forums. “Trump knows,” wrote another accurate representation of the Qanon 4d chess migapedes from /ptg/ journalists are learning, quite an improvement
good article
Bentley Thompson
although i must admit it hit me pretty hard and john got through to me
Landon Adams
Whether they really understand it or not isn't a factor in how they frame it. The left never argues in good faith, period. I used to be one; I was a member of ShitRedditSays shortly after its founding, back when I was young and bluepilled. I knowingly used fallacies and bogus statistics, because it takes longer to deconstruct them than it does to assert them and I had a whole shill brigade at my back to downvote with me. You don't fight fair if you're a progressive, you lie and you slander and you game the system.
Levi Gutierrez
>I'm just amused that it's taken them this long to catch on, and even then their understanding of this shithole is surface level. The understanding is really solid. Can you point to a fault? There's clear recognition of dog-whistles to the far-right here, even in the wake of a massacre of Jewish people.
>The nyt is irrelevant. Nah, it's the most reliable source of news out there at all. It's the place where actually trustworthy information gets shared.
I honestly think the game is up for the alt-right. There have been too many incel massacres and shootings of Jews and blacks. People are seeing this for the real terrorism that it actually is. It shouldn't be long now until Jow Forums is finally closed down and all data logs released to the FBI.
>Trump's use of far-right trolls is pretty obvious The operative word here is 'use', it implies some level of control. Does anyone really control this amazing clusterfuck? If someone does, it would be on a much deeper glow in the dark nigger type level...
And 'use' relative to what? Hillary 'used' her base, Trump 'used' his traditional republican base, Obama 'used' his base.. Are you really saying that Trump 'used' far-right trolls in the same way? If not, how is it different? This point is important.
same you do it because you think it's cool and will make you more socially acceptable it was this im not a hateful person really, i just dont like comedy and politics mixed together. i literally did tone down my hate after he roasted me as an individual.
started from "im 12 years old and what is this", now we here
Samuel Taylor
>Does anyone really control this amazing clusterfuck? Yeah. People can be outed and arrested for hate speech. This is the inevitable trajectory that will follow the rise of alt-right massacres.
Trump tolerates political positions that are unacceptable. This is why he's a truly shitty leader who deserves the contempt of the people.
>And when they find those clues, they take them as evidence that Mr. Trump is “/ourguy/" the only people that use that term are shills trying to force consensus
How does any of this relate to Trumps 'use' of far-right trolls during and after the 2016 election?
Also, >CUC
Parker Johnson
>“Trump has officially named the Jew,” wrote one user on Jow Forums.
Is the Times helping to shift the Overton Window?
Chase Myers
>Occasionally one of them will loose it and create one of those "don't you realise how horrible you people are" threads. I'm convinced that those posts are false flagging Jow Forumsacks. Like in 1984 when the party bombs its own people to keep the fervor up
Ethan Ross
i interpreted that as to say that this place is not anonymous at all and that we are all known individuals
>These activists cheered when Mr. Trump suggested that the Jewish billionaire George Soros could be secretly funding a caravan of Latin American migrants — a dog-whistle reference to an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory that has been advanced by neo-Nazis and white nationalists for years. Yeah...or maybe we cheered because Jewish billionaire George Soros is in fact funding the caravan.
Landon Peterson
i think those polls were one of the major faults in the dem campaign no idea if they are genuine or not, but did they imagine that would help their cause if they knew it wasnt?
Sebastian Clark
>we speak in dog whistles so they must also speak in dog whistles Im honestly glad they think this, makes them look crazy anytime they bring it up.
This is why we need to post more gore. Those fuckers just can't lurk freely here.
Joshua Wright
Yeah a lot of them are clearly leafs shitposting, but I think a few of them might be genuine.
Caleb Hall
>How does any of this relate to Trumps 'use' of far-right trolls during and after the 2016 election? That Trump is using a horrifying fringe group to gain electoral support (and let's be honest -- he wouldn't have won without this support), but that this support is also destroying America with massacres and hatred. Finally all the elements are being made visible and people are seeing how horrifying and horrendous an incel-supported Trump universe actually is.
>i interpreted that as to say that this place is not anonymous at all and that we are all known individuals Yes, definitely IP addresses and post logs are being retained. We just have to wait until the right moment when someone with power will decide to use this information to weed out the nastiest, most hateful components of our society. The day of reckoning is coming.
if you have been implying that their graphs are not accurate or done in good faith then what would be their reason for saying he has an 8% chance? that made dems comfy and reps crazed
Sebastian Price
>“Trump has officially named the Jew,” wrote one user on Jow Forums. “Trump knows,” wrote another, who said that the “others” Mr. Trump referred to in his tweet might be a sly reference to other shadowy Jewish benefactors.
It was to demoralize Republicans from coming out and voting. Oh Trumps got no chance, guess ill just stay home. That's why they did it. They knew polls were bullshit from the beginning. That's why they freaked out about him from start to finish.
Joseph Thomas
>. i literally did tone down my hate after he roasted me as an individual. That's the gayest thing I've read today. KYS nigger.
Robert Sullivan
>After Mr. Trump tweeted the “jobs, not mobs” meme, the creator of the image — a Reddit user...declined to be interviewed unless The New York Times paid him $200 an hour for his “memetic warfare consulting” services
