How hard is to build a house?
Have any of you done it?
I want to get out of commiefornia and into some more rural areas.
Maybe buy some land in montana or something.
Also, what are the best semi rural areas to move into that are huwhite and right leaning?
>Also, what are the best semi rural areas to move into that are huwhite and right leaning?
fuck off we're full
you made your bed lay in it
You need plumbing and electricity. Sewage you can use a septic tank.
Minimum cost is usually $100,000 to build a modern 4 bedroom house with all of that on a decent foundation up to code.
yet, for some reason the amish are able to raise an entire barn in under 1 day.
your autism is showing
chill out
Not that hard for an american style house. Best to have at least three hands and a CAT, if you take your tine it can be done. Stone, cement, and brick is different, but also doable. Lots of good videos on youtube. Lotta money for inspections depending on the state/zone.
>How hard is to build a house?
depends what building code you have to keep up with and climate
>fuck off we're full
That's what you tell non-whites and anti-whites
stay out of my state commie
california is full of both
you’re literally retarded. and i mean the real definition of literally, not your reddit definition
If you want to remain in the state, check out Butte and Stanislaus counties,
If code permits it, you don’t need septic at all, just get a composting toilet. Areas with lots of rain and heat will break that stuff down real fast, just gets let’s of trees and you’re good to go.
Fuck off we're full.
>How hard is to build a house?
Super easy. Or did you mean entirely from scratch? Otherwise you just need concrete, rebar, 2x4s, and plywood and you can make a really good house quite quickly.
Lots of trees*
Buy land with timber and buy a portable mill. This will allow you to make your own building materials but it takes a few months for the wood to dry/cure
Or Trinity, or Siskiyou, or Alturas...
Fucktons of bumfuck in cali
nope. I want out. This place is a shithole.
Well, its a geographic paradise but its being held captive by commies.
Not hard at all. So long as you find a place where state/local regulations arnt fucking insane
Any thoughts on shipping container homes? Are they a meme? My house in rural CA is in a high risk fire area. It’s only 1200 sq ft, so if it burns down one day I’m thinking I’ll rebuild with six shipping containers, four for living space, two for garage.
Biggest redpill will be to start reading building and zoning codes and to become aware of how fucked everything is. Sprinkler systems are mandatory in most new housing and they will require a licensed installer plus what is on average $10,000-20,000 in cash to put them in before drywall is even taped. Foundations in many areas are required to be slab rather than post and this is another $10,000-20,000 expense. Plumbing and electrical can usually be done by the owner as well as most of the framing. Getting the house hooked up to the grid has to be done by someone with a license and that will be $3,000-5,000 for the privilege of doing that. Solar Systems which used to be commonly a self-built phenomenon now generally require a licensed installer if the house is going to be on the grid and the panels/battery system is going to be $10,000-20,000. Septic or sewer hookups are region specific but it is going to be quite a bit of money.
You will be spending anywhere from $100,000 to $250,000 for your run of the mill 2000 sq ft house including the land. So just be ready for how gay building a house really is.
Depends on what you mean by build a house. Do you mean how much money do you need to buy a property and have a house constructed on it, or how hard is it to buy land and homestead/build your house yourself? Either way could be significantly easier or harder depending on a myriad of factors. Kind of a complex question really, user.
>just be ready for how gay building a house really is.
Can you get around all this by trucking in a prefabricated mobile home? Can you get a new or slightly used one for less than 100k?
Fuck.
Yea I was looking at that shit and its pretty dumb. I was hoping to pay cash but I don't think I'll be able to do it for a few more years.
>Really good house
>only 2x4s for lumber
Yeap, nope.
Not hard to build a house if you pay me enough.
t. contractor
This guy knows. But where are you that sprinklers are mandatory?
This dumbass forgot to turn off his proxy, everyone make fun of the fake nip
Nope. Manufactured housing has it's own super gay requirements in terms of installation requirements and HUD. It also doesn't avoid the septic/sewer plus electrical grid hookup problems. You avoid the sprinkler systems but I honestly don't know for how much longer once the sprinkler people realize how big the manufactured home market is. I also will mention that some areas specifically prohibit mobile homes on certain properties through zoning or make the requirements to place a mobile home so onerous that you would be better off just buying/building a stickbuilt.
Also, remember that all homebuilding is either tailored towards mass construction tract housing cuckboxes or gigantic semi-custom/custom mcmansion abortions on subdivision acreage.
You would be better off trying to buy or build now because it is likely going to get much, much, much worse with future IRC revisions and the new standardized zoning codes that will be coming very very soon. At some point you will see almost no new SFR because of how hard it will be to make the financing work, it will be almost entirely multi-family owned by very large corporations with a holding period of forever. Agenda 21 was a lot more sinister than even the conspiritards were aware of and the only people who are going to benefit from future development patterns are not friends of the little guy.
if you want to build it to last, especially if you want to build it to code, it is very hard
theres a reason people hire contractors even to do minor shit around the house
theyre a meme. for what it costs to insulate, run electricity/plumbing, and do the exterior, you might as well build framing from scratch
My state (NV) has no sprinkler ordinance yet, but I'm not holding my breath since builders have started including them "just because" (I'm looking at you DR Horton). It will likely become a federal requirement for FHA financing on new construction from what I'm hearing from installers who I usually don't listen to because they are idiots, but in this case I will trust them because I have seen more dumb things just observing the industry as a bystander rather than someone doing this as a trade.
One of the cheapest ways to start out is to simply buy land and live in your car/ a old van.
If you are completely debt free you should save up some money by living in a car or with your parents. If you are not debt free then you should pay of the debt first, but still live with your parents/car.
Building the home is the most expensive, and you should keep it on the cheaper end.
Optimally you would build it in such a way that you can expand it later.
Dont listen to this wannabe boomer.
Once you start out you dont really need either if you have purchased property near drinkable water supply (which you should)
You can heat using firewood (if you live in forrested areas) or gas. The smaller you build, the less heat you need.
Toilet can be done and should be done with composting toilet, as you would use the shit for your soil anyway.
Remember, its about living small with the intention of building long term.
>I want to get out of commiefornia
Fuck off, everywhere else is full.
You just stay put and think about what you've done to the country. If you're lucky some army will be along to liberate you in a few years.
You won’t have to follow codes in the rural south...no building codes where I live. I build what I want when I want on my land. I didn’t need permission or permit, nada!
Basedboy living out his self inflicted undignified nature
This.
Wow, wasn't aware this was a thing for residential housing in any state, thanks for the info, guess it wouldnt be a shock if it did become federal at this rate
Scariest thing about this is to recognize that if a sprinkler system does fail it will likely be a catastrophic failure and cause a lot of damage. If you have rare documents, guns, collectibles or any other valuable it also may not be covered under your general homeowners policy and special valuable specific policies may exempt failures of the sprinkler system if you don't have someone licensed come and check it every year (Which most people probably won't do because they already suck at preventative maintenance on their homes).
Good post. Land first. Live in car / yurt. Then build: shed (for tools), cabin, then house. Continual improvement.
>buy land and live in your car/ a old van.
Not allowed, got to have a loicense for that.
If this was allowed the beaners would be already be doing it.
The move to a rural area where it is allowed.
Or move to a rural area so remote that nobody will even know that you are breaking the law.
Even the rural building and code enforcement people have wised up to that approach. They have software now that will go and scan through satellite imagery and find non permitted or non approved structures. Rural areas have also wised up to what they call "substandard" structures and have tightened their rules in order to drive up property and structure values. Real estate is the biggest racket ever.
>sprinkler systems
Only mandatory in CA, MD, Washington, D.C.
Parking a car on your property is not illegal.
Dont get me wrong, im not telling you NOT to get the apropriate permits for the small cabin you are building. Im telling you to live in a cheap way in order to afford the build without going into debt.
There is nothing stopping you from building pic related whilst living in your car waiting for the permits to the cabin to go through, or while waiting to save up more money to build the cabin.
Go live around the Amish and have them build you a house. Seen them do it in one day flat
Usually building accessory structures is strictly prohibited without a dwelling unless the land is general agriculture or some other AG code and then they allow those kinds of structures for commercial uses.
I'm not trying to tear you down, but the era and time for a lot of what we would like to do with our own property has wound down. We need to be organized and fight for rural-proofing and carve-outs rather than avoiding the government and becoming martyrs over regulations.
NFPA doesn't tell you on that page that there are a lot of localities that adopted sprinklers in their fire codes for SFR. They are a trade group and really like action at the state and federal government level.
Condensation and thermal bridging nightmares. They're a cruel meme created by Boomers.
t. Building contractor
>high fire risk
No insulation, the metal transfers heat so inside not safe and contents still burn. Better something like hemp-crete.
I'd love to do this myself but I'm so reliant on internet, TV and games id probably kill myself
>Parking a car on your property is not illegal.
Yes, but living in it may require permits. Nobody wants their nice rural area to turn into the next Slab City.
One method is to make 4 tiny houses, at say 40ft each, park them in a square and you've effectively got a 1600sqft house including internal, private, court yard. Add grass flat roofs, and no one is going to notice you via satellite too.
I haven't done it, yet. But I will. My uncle would drive to a piece of land he had innawoods every day after he got off of work and would work little by little to put together a log cabin, over the course of several months, entirely by hand. He constructed a fully functioning home/all the basic amenities, plotted a garden, gave himself all the necessary tools to live self sufficiently, and quit his job. He's been living there for the past 20+ years now. I intend to do something similar.
>all these disgusting regulations forcing you to spend retarded sums of money you don't want to spend
>land of the free
The irony is never lost on you guys
>Yes, but living in it may require permits.
You wat.
Put some curtains on the car windows, nobody will know.
Jeez.
Also, hardly any places have laws against sleeping in your car, and none have laws against parking on your own property.
youtube.com
TV and videya are escapeism. its like sugar, go without it for about 2-3 weeks and you wont crave it so much anymore.
It's easy.
I live in Montana and it is fucking amazing here. Building a house isn't an easy task. But Montana is where everyone on Jow Forums should live, perfect.
Why would I want any of this when I can live in a 2 bedroom *luxury* apartment, with european appliances (delongi), close to all the things I LOVE, like shopping and restraurnts. The vibe! Wow!
>concrete, rebar, 2x4s, and plywood
nice boomer shack
>concrete
>rebar
>blocks
>corrugated metal sheet
>some pvc pipes
You just created 99% of latin america