Who does pol think caused world war 1? Seems like a hard one to answer considering that everyone blamed each other

contradictions among imperialists

It's definitely Germany for attacking everyone instead of letting the conflict become yet another balkanic war

According to Hew Strachan, "Conrad von Hötzendorf first proposed preventive war against Serbia in 1906, and he did so again in 1908–09, in 1912–13, in October 1913, and May 1914: between 1 January 1913 and 1 January 1914 he proposed a Serbian war twenty-five times"
Hungarians tried to prevent the war but were outvoted
It was never going to be that because Russia promised to protect Serbia if Austria or the Ottomans attacked it
Austrians knew this and still decided to go forward

And Germany got the blame because there was no more A-H to pin the blame on

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Massive shift in political powers caused by the rising importance of oil, changing of alliances, and industrialization of countries where some were more succesfull than others. The Serbs provided the proverbial spark to this powder keg, the Russians further escalated this conflict into a worldwide war.

False, you can thank teh Russians for being the first great power to mobilize military forces. Germany actually told them to desist but they persisted.

Surplus of population.

> Austria attacks Serbia

Did the Russian attacked Austria back in retaliation ?
No.

Germany declared war on Russia and France AND invades Belgium without any declaration of war, thus triggering the British intervention.

It's Germany who attacked everyone, making the war a World War instead of yet another balkanic shitwar.

The Treaty of Versailles was waaaaaaay too kind to the Germans ( which led to WWII )

People only need to follow dates of declaration of war and everything will be clear, i dont get how can people be still confused about this.

^this

G E R M A N Y

In my honest opinion i think Germany wanted to intervene to save AH so it can conquer it later seeing how weak it is.
AH declaring war on Serbia and Russia stepping in would cause AH to lose teritories so Germany had to step in to protect what in future they considered would be theirs.
At least thats their Balkan plans , idkw why they attacked France and Belgium.

EVERY. SINGLE. Great Power wanting to expand its influence and colonies like its the 19th century and got surprised by the ability of total war technological advancement brought. Armies literally had no idea what the fuck to do, so they dug in throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks. The 1900-18 cultural decade essentially belongs to the 19th. cultural century, the change from pre-war to interwar era was so huge in every way that it was essentially the largest reorganization of borders, ideologies, economy and technology in human history. Dont forget how it also spawned communism and fascism while buried traditionalism and monarchism. The era of empires was over and the era of ideologies began.

But in public I just blame germany because I hate them.

>In my honest opinion i think Germany wanted to intervene to save AH so it can conquer it later seeing how weak it is.

Wrong. They could have done it at Köninggratz about 50 years before.

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Literally only 20 years later Germany will annex Austria and whats left of AH in to greater Germany anyway.

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like most wars, they were started by subhumans in order for the jew to profit
well done subhumans

Australia belongs to Romania!

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how pathetic can you get?

>Köninggratz 1866
The unification of Germany into a politically and administratively integrated nation state officially occurred on 18 January 1871.
So no, they couldnt.

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What the fuck are you even trying to say?

he's saying that he is a retarded subhuman

Read book pic attached, the British empire couldn't compete with Germany, and didn't want a per rising up against it, so they manufactured a war in order to destroy Germany, doing in their empire in the process, such is history.

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Romania belongs to Chad.

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Germans , they admitted to that themselves

I imagine that they'd have to throw a second ceremony for the second round of unification and how that's impossible because the catering company didn't have enough tablecloths or something.

>French revanchism and pan-Slavic nationalism
French revanchism and pan-Slavic nationalism
>French revanchism and pan-Slavic nationalism
French revanchism and pan-Slavic nationalism
>French revanchism and pan-Slavic nationalism
French revanchism and pan-Slavic nationalism

Doesn't really looks like a reliable source tho.

It was the French. Poincare and the official foreign office (not the appointed secretary mind you) more or less set it up.
Visit the revision of the Treaty with Russia and view the flow money going into Serbia and which Serbians for what purchases.

France set up the Serbians for war and they were all too happy to start one and then they made the anti German entente a pro war alliance to help Russia in the balkans

> French Revanchisme
> Pan-Slavic nationalism

> Germany declares war to France
> Germany declares war to Russia

Even before both France or Russia declared war to Austria.

But yeah, blame french revanchism and pan-slavic nationalism

That Germany didnt exist as united power in 1866 with plans to expand itself, its obvious what i meant.
You got rekt 2 times by subhumans. kek

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Nice digits, Shlomo
But that's some shit-tier b8

Germany dindu nuffin.

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>That Germany didnt exist as united power in 1866 with plans to expand itself, its obvious what i meant.

Is this some kind of extreme-meta trolling?

No, i have yet to receive any meaningfull (You) from you.

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shut the fuck up, nigger

That’s wrong mate, the war allowed the government to restructure and created a military dictatorship and was being used to fix the AH beaurocracy which was old and therefor very bloated. They spent like triple on beaurocracy as every other power and the least on military.

This was all going on behind the scenes but would have left AH better off after the war from a government point of view.

shut the fuck up, turkroach

thats right get them Moshe

shut the fuck up, nigger

Jews (idea), anglos (goy and halfling jew executers of idea) and hungarians (gay homosexuals that liked the sadomasochistic element of war and seeing their gay country torn up).

shut the fuck up, gypsy

Gavrilo Princip

What a subhuman (You).
Napusis se kurca srbima kao i pre 100 godina becki konjusaru.

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just like WWII the non german side decided to expand a little local conflict to a full world war

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What this book sets out to prove is that unscrupulous men, whose roots and origins were in Britain, sought a war to crush Germany and orchestrated events in order to bring this about. 1914 is generally considered as the starting point for the disaster that followed, but the crucial decisions that led to war had been taken many years before. A secret society of rich and powerful men was established in London in 1891 with the long-term aim of taking control of the entire world. These individuals, whom we call the Secret Elite, deliberately fomented the Boer War of 1899–1902 in order to grab the Transvaal’s gold mines, and this became a template for their future actions. Their ambition overrode humanity, and the consequences of their actions have been minimised, ignored or denied in official histories. The horror of the British concentration camps in South Africa, where 20,000 children died, is conveniently glossed over; the devastating loss of a generation in a world war for which these men were deliberately responsible has been glorified by the lie that they died for ‘freedom and civilisation’. This book focuses on how a cabal of international bankers, industrialists and their political agents successfully used war to destroy the Boer Republics and then Germany, and were never called to account.

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Jow Forums didn't cause WW1. The Internet didn't really exist in usable form til '95

Declares war first on EVERYONE
>just like WWII the non german side decided to expand a little local conflict to a full world war

Is this how you cope Hans ?

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>just like WWII
You annexed 3 countries, shitting on all pervious agreements and then after invading France, Yugoslavia and Greece you decided to declare war to the Soviets for good measure, despite the Soviets never doing anything against you up to this point

this is fake

Germany declared war on France and Belgium, not the other way around.

Don't try to pass a German agression for a mutual agreement on killing each other.

Disconnection between imagination of state leaders and reality of life of their nations
Germany overestimated itself 10-fold, as usual
Turkey thought they are still relevant in any way
Russia thought its a country with modern military and loyal population
Austria thought germans are as good as they claimed they are
Britain and france thought they are still as powerful as they were in the previous century
Murka thought they are as powerful as they will be later in the century

And then the reality check came in

If the internet was around in a usable form in 1895 then surely Jow Forums was out there in 1914

That reading impediment needs some work on amerifat user.

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After the assassination of Franz Ferdinand A-H actually send a telegram to Germany, asking if they would stay behind them if they attacked Serbia now, but even the german Kaiser said no, because too much Time already passed since the death of Ferdinand for such an aggression, they knew that A-H had other reasons for annexing Serbia and did not want to trigger a war for this little slavic country...
But A-H decided to attack Serbia anyway, and the germans were forced to help them, or being completly sourrounded and sooner or later destroyed by its enemies..
I learned this in advanced german history class by the way and all french retards that still think only germany started it are still Mad because of the horrific defeat in WW2

This.

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oooo " AdVaNCeD gErMaN hIsToRy ClAsS "

the dude learnt some History in High School good boy.

yet FACTS are there,
GERMANY declared war on RUSSIA without any prior russian war declaration on Austria or Germany
GERMANY declared war on FRANCE without any prior french war declaration on Austria or Germany
GERMANY invaded BELGIUM breaking the treaty THEY SIGNED guaranteeing Belgiums independance and Neutrality

GERMANY is the cause of the war and they even recognized so in the Versailles Treaty.

AH started war but Germany made it world war.
Thats obvious if you follow dates of declaration of war and who on who.
Germany wanted AH as their teritorry since they considered it smaller germany.
Only 20 years later after 1918 in 1938 they annexed Austria and fullfiled what they wanted in ww1 but couldnt do due to lack of means in tech and military tactics.
Trench warfare wasnt a way to win a war, ever.

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This.

The rest is brainlet conspiracy faggotry.

Agreed on all but Germany didnt technicaly cause war, AH did.
Germany only made it bigger because of Prussian militarism and victories prior to ww1.
But yeah, in a non formal sense Germany started ww1, made it much larger in scale.

Thats important.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_231_of_the_Treaty_of_Versailles
The German government was responsible for the war according to everyone and according to the Germans themselves.
Millions of soldiers died for nothing in the trenches to satisfy the German need for destruction and human suffering.

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Germany caused a World War where it could have been only a small balkan shitwar with Austria taking over Serbia fast then holding the Russians until a favourable treaty would be found.
Germany killed the diplomatic way by going the full autistic way and declaring war on everyone.

Hell they even managed to get the US in because they couldn't control their natural savage instinct and sunk a civilian ship full of civilians and american citizens.

>The Serbs provided the proverbial spark to this powder keg
Serbia didnt want war after 2 Balkan wars that ended in 1913 you brainlet.

AH wanted it and attacked in 1914 even before declaration of war, shooting from military ship in Danube on Belgrade.
They saw Serbia weak and thought they would finish it fast.
Oh boy were those faggots wrong, Cer and Kolubara battles teached them a lesson.

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Germans, of course. Fucking Huns.

SUMMARY: CHAPTER 21 – JULY 1914 – DECEPTION, MANIPULATION AND MISREPRESENTATION The Secret Elite ensured that the murders in Sarajevo were fanned into a full-scale international crisis by manipulating key individuals in Vienna and St Petersburg, using their ambassadorial agents who were already in place. There was widespread initial support for Austria-Hungary after the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand. Through overtures of friendship and mutual understanding, the Secret Elite went to considerable lengths to deceive Germany, unwittingly assisted by the genuine goodwill of many parliamentarians. This encouraged Count Berchtold to a bold response that would stop the Serbian aggression once and for all. It is claimed that, in a deliberate attempt to force a war on Europe, the kaiser gave an unconditional assurance to Austria by a so-called blank cheque. In fact, Austria-Hungary’s need to respond to Serbian aggression was endorsed by others including Britain and the British press. The kaiser and his advisors supported a local solution to a local problem and made absolutely no special preparation for war. Consumed by the troubles in Ireland, the British Parliament and Cabinet were kept entirely in the dark about the dangers of the Austrian–Serbian dispute. Churchill and Grey used this opportune moment to purchase the Anglo-Persian Oil Company, guaranteeing oil for the navy and stamping British authority on the Gulf. Berchtold’s insistence on diplomatic protocol, and his three-week delay until after Poincaré’s visit to Russia, gave the members of the entente time to redefine their stance and prepare their response to the Austrian Note. Berchtold was about to walk into a trap, and the Secret Elite expected Germany to follow dutifully.

>being this delusional
Afrique, s'il vous plait.

you mean what turned the war between austria-hungary and the slav niggers into a world war? the brits and their american pet dog ofc, under the heavy influence of our very (((special))) friends.

ah but that the ship was full with war material is irrelevant right haha

>with Austria taking over Serbia fast then holding the Russians until a favourable treaty would be found.
That was the plan but then AH faggots lost miserably in Cer and Kolubara battles and retreated all the way across Drina river beyond starting point where our soldiers wanted to pursue their asses.
Russia would have obliterated them further if Germany didnt intervene and defeated us with 1915 Mackensen sweaping action and pushing away Russia.

Germany litteraly had to save AH fast before they would lose chance on having AH teritories.
I agree on you with rest.

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Basement and fritzlpilled

Sorry, I’m right

SUMMARY: CHAPTER 22 – JULY 1914 – LEADING EUROPE TOWARDS THE BRINK St Petersburg became the centre of critical decision making. The Secret Elite agents, Poincaré and Isvolsky, aided by Paléologue and Buchanan, were there to ensure that the czar and Sazonov took a firm stance against Austria. Poincaré went to St Petersburg, as he had done in 1912, to promise that France would go to war on the side of Russia if Germany took arms on the part of Austria. This was the real ‘blank cheque’ for war. Sir George Buchanan ensured that Grey was fully conversant with the progress towards war and was regularly at Sazonov’s side to reassure him. Russia, and Russian policy towards her own people, was anathema to most cultured and knowledgeable Britons. They would never have accepted a military alliance with Russia. In Parliament and in the Cabinet, details were withheld about the deterioration in international relations until 24 July. Germany was deceived into thinking that her relations with Britain had substantially improved through parliamentary, press and diplomatic discussion, while Secret Elite agents in the Foreign Office were plotting her destruction. Austrian foreign minister, Berchtold, was repeatedly assured that other nations understood the need for a sharp Austrian retaliation, while, unknown to him, Britain, France and Russia prepared a collective and entirely negative response to the demands contained in the Austrian Note. The demands made by Austria were neither unexpected nor unfair. The responses from the entente group were disproportionately over-excited.

Lol propaganda hits French hard to this day

Yes that was the plan, as of early august 1914 it didn't seem like Serbia was able to hold against Austria

We're not really talking a German intervention after Austria begins to loose, we're talking a German intervention before the war even really started

The Germans could have just wait to see if the Austrian were handling the war by themselves, but instead they opened a 2-fronts shitstorm

Those are facts you retards

Where did Serbia get money to fund its army for? Under what conditions did they accept the money?

Really makes you think.

(It’s fucking France btw) ps. Alsace Lorraine will always be German no matter how much you pretend otherwise

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I never said that germany did not declare war, but you dont have to be smart to understand that every other nation would have done the same in Germanys position to protect its sovereignty..

Cherry picked facts

AH knew it was dangerous down in Serbia, they wanted this to happen. Archduke was warned many many times.

SUMMARY: CHAPTER 23 – JULY 1914 – THE FIRST MOBILISATIONS By the accepted conventions of the time, general mobilisation by a major power was the first act of war. The French–Russian (entente) game plan was to ensure that Germany was attacked on two fronts: that is, from the east and west simultaneously. The Secret Elite’s grand plan tightened further when Poincaré and the French agreed in principle with the Russians to joint mobilisation during his visit to St Petersburg. Poincaré repeatedly assured the czar and Sazonov of the absolute commitment of France. Any wavering on the part of the czar or Sazonov was bolstered by the reassurances from his diplomatic minders, Paléologue (French ambassador) and Buchanan (British ambassador). The Russian military were preparing for war and delighted with their French allies. Sir Edward Grey also encouraged mobilisation by declaring his calm acceptance of its ‘inevitability’, while Buchanan cautioned Sazonov to make sure that Germany did not get wind of what was happening. Buchanan and Grey knew that the British public would not go to war unless Germany was the proven aggressor. The Serbian government mobilised at 3 p.m. on 25 July, and the Austrians followed with a partial mobilisation against Serbia at 9.30 that evening. Russian mobilisation had been agreed while Poincaré was still in St Petersburg, and the evidence of troop movements was recorded by diplomats. The czar accepted partial mobilisation of the Russian armies on 26 July.

True. Also dont mind rest of these faggots, they need to crack open a book or two before they spew their shit.

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" cherry picked "

> declaration of war

Its pretty clear who's starting a war is who's declaring the war first.

You're american tho, you probably have no idea how the rules of war works, saddam probably started the 2004 war too right ?

The Jews. Princip and Co. were dispatched by the Black Hand (((Secret Society))) to assassinate Ferdinand. It had been decided in 1897 at the First Zionist Congress meeting that a plan must be developed for world jewry to take (((Israel))) and end the Diaspora.
The tensions and fighting in Europe had been going on for many years already and the kikes just needed a way to get what they wanted out of all the confusion.
German and British jews conspired to bring the USA into the fighting when it looked like Britain and allies were going to lose. In exchange for bringing the USA into the fighting the German Zionist family Rothschild were granted Palestine from the Brits, this offer was made by Foreign Secretary Balfour and agreed to by Lord Rothschild.

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One autistic little serb who killed the guy who wanted to give them autonomy

They wanted the war
We didnt
And they got rekt for their incompetence
ZU ENDE

imagine losing battle after battle to subhuman serbs after they've fought war after war
llll

Butthurts.

>Alsace Lorraine will always be German no matter how much you pretend otherwise
Love you, burgerbro.

Why the fuck did you attack Portugal?

It was part of the Jews continual plan to replace God and Monarchs with Capitalism and it worked

they started attacking us in our african colonies

So WW2 was justified because you broke the London treaties?

Austro-Hungary obviously. Serbia was willing to meet all demands except one and the Hapsburgs were ready to declare war.

Germany escalated the situation and caused the war in the West but really Austro-Hungary was to blame for sparking the conflict.