Have you *actually* gone into /leftypol/?

How often do you challenge your worldview, Jow Forums? My gut tells me that if you went to /leftypol/ and actually spent some time reading what they have to say and what the communist thinkers of the 20th century in general have to say, you'd be agreeing with a lot of their points.

... (unless you're ancap, in which case I just pity you)

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Lefty Jow Forums is a spook.

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Yeah, I went there, asked a simple question and was banned immediately for a month. Same shit with r/latestagecapitalism and other leftist subreddits.

Why don't you go back there and stay, faggot.

Kek people can only believe in communism when they're shielded from the truth

mostly, it's just iterations of "real communism has never been tried"

I try to discuss the problem with commis using niggers as their playthings and i get banned. No thanks. Nigger.

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i'm very active on /leftypol/. i only come on here to troll the facists, racists, misogynists, and bigots that reside here. anyone with an IQ of at least 110 understands that socialism is the way of the future and our one chance of getting humans off of this dying planet and spreading sentience to the cosmos. brainlets need not reply

You most probably asked in a way that looked like you're trolling. How about reading the material in the stickies?

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you mean /sg/?

"Spreading sentience to the cosmos"
Thats a very imperialistic view.
Disgusting. Send this man to the gulag.

They are smart cookies user and what they have to say is true and from an ideological perspective they know their stuff. But you could say it's about as much use as learning ancient Greek or Latin.

The real, crux of disagreement is the way we deal with the problems. Both sides of the spectrum identify different causes.

Most of these people who believe in socialism and communsim, stateism or retarded alt-righters (which dont actually exist them like it's told, they were memed into reality by the media), cleave unto it like it's a faith.

I think most on Jow Forums except the kikes and megapedes, see politics as a huge circle jerk of pointlessness, presided over by the rich, with useful idiots divesting their time and energy into cheerleading them on.

>muh Trump
>muh Hilary
>muh fuck off..

hit return a few times too much there.
>before plebbet spacing.
I dont post there only here.

Lefty pol ignored economics and history

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/leftypol/ and modern marxists are just red liberals. (Marx conceived his ideas during the golden age of liberalism)
They hate ethnic nationalism and are too materialistic. Giving power to the proletariat and abolishing the state is as toxic for the society as giving power to the bourgeois and corporations (like liberals and libertarians do)

George Sorel realized this, that's why early national syndicalist movements(proto fascism) sought to regulate both the entrepreneur and the worker, while accepting nationalist hierarchy. (there's a reason he is vilified there)

Marxism's materialism is damaging just like capitalism's consumerism.
They also love to ignore the reality of racial tribalism and think that Tyrone won't stab their revolution in the back just to get gibs for his people.
Finally, they're not revolutionaries. They regurgitate the same shit when it comes to fag acceptance and anti racism, just like the neo liberal capitalism system does.

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Don't really need to. Ulike anyone at /leftypol/, I have read Marx (all volumes capital) along with a sizeable chunk of the rest of the leftist canon. Meanwhile, they get their info on political theory from anti-flag album liner notes.

Anyone got the leftypol discord imgur albums?

>How often do you challenge your worldview, Jow Forums?
6 corporations control 90% of the media and constantly push leftist talking points. Leftist corporations also control Silicon Valley. So stop acting like we'll see anything there that hasn't been rained down on us repeatedly by your corporate overlords.

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What's this JIF from?

>corporate overlords
>communists
... huh?

what's a /leftypol/ ?

Corporate overlords literally built the red army. Communism has always been popular with the ultra-rich.

I've been there for quite a while actually, then got tired of their shit and dropped it. Low-quality "memes" and low-energy non-arguments are all they got. It only gets interesting if a Jow Forumstard comes there to discuss or vice versa. Not "ask an antifascist anything" one-and-gone OPs, but actual discussion, mind you. It was marginally better when it was first founded after Jow Forums harbor, but has steadily been a shitmess ever since. For all intents and purposes, it's little more than Jow Forums's retarded little brother now.

Not to mention, the entrepreneurship community likes to oust anyone center to right. It can be career-wrecking and its not advisable to show any right-leaning tendencies if you are in the business sector.

The modern western commie is a soft slave to consumerism, an easily manipulated useful idiot.

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1. You're a faggot
2. Yeah, Ive been to leftpol, its called the American Education system
3. Literally forced to do a biography on Karl Marx in 12th grade.
*graduate 2007*
*realize after a few years, school was complete lie*
*found Jow Forums around 2010. Realize (((who))) is behind everything*
*2018, still fallin down the rabbit hole*

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Board on 4*2chan.

You may be right but /leftypol/ is basically empty. If you wwant to talk to a /leftypolk/ its easier just to look at Jow Forums catalog. Since they are all here for le ebic trolling.

But you're right, I agree with more of the rhetoric from them then I do from a Neoconservative like Ben.

imagine being this retarded

Exactly

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> you should look into marxism... it makes so much sense...
> mexican intellectual
marxism fails every time it is tried, because dolts like you have never read Das kapital. if you had actually read it, you weoould see all the myriad reasons if simply cant work, and is just another scheme to rob the poor and enrich the new hereditary aristocracy, but this time they are called "The Party" instead of "The Nobility"
marxism is just feudalism 2.0, and dolts like you are too dumb to see it.

How non-surprising is it that you had to do a biography on one of the most influential thinkers of the 19th century, and you could argue, in all of history?

>impling everyone is a closed minded fascist
>just let me propagrandise you
>unless you’re fascist
Wew, kid..

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Jow Forums basics

>Who we are against.
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>What we do. What we want.
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White supremacist,Nazi,Alt-right among others are just labels given to those who speaks for white people and to those whites who want to preserve their culture,heritage & identity. So situation is like -Die or be the "bad guy"
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aww, I see. Thank you.

There is always desire to be something more within human. Usually it manifest itself through materialistic ways, sexual ways, through drugs or parenthood example. It is endless chasing, rat-race that leads nowhere but keeps you busy through own creation that people calls as life.

We can't remember our time as toddlers because we didn't exist in that time. We had no identity. Only when years has gone while we gathered data from our environment we created identity. When we have our identity, we decide what matters to us. Then we experience impulsive feelings when things didn't go as we wanted.

We are piece of life that creates own image and plays it (Genesis 1:27 So God created man in His own image). We get so tangled to our own creation that it can kill us and bring us into hell. We think that something or someone causes our misery even when we alone create everything within.

We have all this mysterious desire to do something, be something more. It usually manifest itself through sexual ways, materialistic ways, through parenthood, dating, drugs, games, food, alcohol.. you name it. Through that it leads nowhere, it keeps us happy for a moment and then we need more. So where we are now? We are piece of life that want to experience bigger part of it. Through physical ways it finds not that part and when that need to expand finds no expression we create this pain within. So what to do? This is what meditation is all about. We don't want to identify to our thoughts or to our outward senses. That is just the data we gathered from the physical and created self from it. When we learn to be still, just be as piece of life, something start to happen that seems to expand you into everywhere. It seems to that consciousness, awareness is the basic that exist and everything else is manifest of it.

What (((they))) wan't is to bind us more and more into physical, sins, into that rat-race i wrote about above, so that we wouldn't learn or even think about this.

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GOD is figurative word. GOD is energy, source, awareness, infinity ever expanding into new possibilities. God includes everything so you are also part of it. All the religions are teaching about this truth, hidden within words to those who are ready to see. Are you ready?

>youtube.com/watch?v=aB3Z0SD_Xiw
>youtube.com/watch?v=wM0IKLv7KrE
>youtube.com/watch?v=97FhauH1J58
>youtube.com/watch?v=FSmdSw9eEIA
>youtube.com/watch?v=ZP5HmM0UxQs
>youtube.com/watch?v=FY74AFQl2qQ
>youtube.com/watch?v=Yimor2jRmCA
>youtube.com/watch?v=UyyjU8fzEYU
>youtube.com/watch?v=zqrpKUTMXgY
>youtube.com/watch?v=dAc_2tBu0T0
>youtube.com/watch?v=B3GjKTtSRrQ
>youtube.com/watch?v=QKvvaURUSvk

With these you can enter the rabbit hole. This is most important redpill. Redpill of life.

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I know for a fact that the knowledge of communism of at least half the board, is limited to "dem commies say it has never been tried 8)" and "lol no food"

Pic related. those 7 circles are called the seed of life.
One interpretation i saw is that its meant to symbolize the creation week, or symbolize the same as the creation week does in the bible
The center being conciousness, that expands to the circle. The conciousness then moves to the border of the circle where it expands again creating the second circle and so on until you got the seed of life. the 6 days of creation around the 7th one, God, the seed of life or whatever you want to call it.
By connecting the points of intersection you gain the (black) cube, as above mentioned symbolizing the material world and as such Satans rule.

I have to say here that the 6, and all these patterns are commonly seen as a positive symbol as it is the blueprint of creation of life, but its only the material part of this, and according to the Bible the source of temptations, the Satan's, which we should work on overcoming with our spirit.

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> lefty marxists are smart cookies...
ohh, my sides!
> they really know their stuff!
stop please, youre killing me
> what they have to say is true...
no... cant breathe!
> now let me tell you about the crux of the argument...
i cant take any more!
pure comedy genius!

satan (associated with saturn) meant something like "obstacle". everyone had his own satan. someone who incites him to do bad things, a bad habbit, an addiction, anythinghe should overcome. only later satan became a figure of his own.

6 is the number of man, and his weakness. greed, egoism, egocentrism, all the materialistic desires, and i believe of this plane existence in general (the earth is tilted 23,4 degrees, or if you count from the other direction 66.6 degrees, life, on this planet at least, is made of carbon, the 6th element, with 6 protons, 6 neutrons and 6 electrons. 6 directions in the material realm, north, south, west, east, up and down, 6 sides of the cubes. Think About how molecules and icecrystals form in hexagonal shapes. saturn being the 6th planet with hexagon on its northpole). 666 is going over the top with the materialistic desires, pursuing and desiring only those and making you follow the path of satan.

The black cube of satan is a symbol for this material, 3 dimensional realm, and the time we fear is running out, which will let us die, and which causes us to do harm to others in order to lead a better life ourself. by this the black cube also symbolizes time and death without either we wouldnt have these earthly desires causing us to do evil.
The 666 could also stand for the dimensions of the cube, 6x6x6, entrapping us in the 6, our weakness and temptations.

We should strive to overcome (our) satan, proof we arent easily corrupted wether satan is just a symbol or a real entithy. So while this world isnt evil itself, this realm of existence kind of makes the corruption a lot easier. When people worship satan, they dont worship some deity or enthity. they worship this material world, the materialistic egoistic desires, and themselves.

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The World is controlled atleast from the ages of Rome, by Satanic Papacy, zionist Sabbateans & black nobility. They are hiding the truth, knowledge of life & science from previous golden ages, that what was preserved also in Land of Khem, Egypt. After Rome, hidden by (((them))). They are the deceivers that created atleast todays christianity (piso christ) and veiled humanity into darkness. We are again rising in the ages with awareness. It is time to awake and realize what we really are.

>We are eternal piece of life bound to our bodies
>(((they))) keep us in the dark by hiding truth, by this system, by sins, lies and science.
>Ancient bloodlines like Aldobrandini,Breakspear ruling vatican & jesuits
>they claimed people of the earth to their imaginary kingdom through three trust (three crown); 1455, romanus pontifex, 1481, aeterni regis, 1531, convocation.
>Through these three trust, cestui que vie is name of our enslavement. Wich is also 6,6,6 (symbol of material bound) when translated in latin.
>Level of awareness in humanity goes trough cycles and we have much less time to go through this cycle and it's ages than normally, that is why development has been so fast, that is why people are awakening to truth right now, we entered new age that is kicking in

why they create todays concept of Christianity is to keep us certain, small frequency of awareness so we would not rise and realize the truth.
Realize what you are, key to it is within. Body is just material plane that you borrow from earth. Through sins you bound thyself more into it, broke your boundaries. You are piece of life, piece of god that wan't experience bigger part of it. Through material ways it find not that expression. There is truth hidden within religions, within words to those who are ready to see.

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Papal Bloodlines:
>Orsini >Breakspear >Aldobrandini >Farnse >Somaglia

Jesuit Council:
>Farnese >Borja >Colonna >Gaetoni >Medici >Pamphili >Orsini >Aldobrandini >Chigi >Conti

Jesuit Council of 13:
>Aldobrandini/Borghese >Borja/Borgia >Chigi >Colonna/Cologna >Conti >Farnese/delle overe >Gaetani/Caetani >Merdici/Medici/Domedici >Orsini/Maximus >Pamphii >Somaglia >Este Estence

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Every time I got to /leftypol/ I get banned. It's a hugbox.

I got banned once for saying Mugabe was a bad leader.

You also get banned for pointing-out how Marxists support nonwhite ethnocentrism.

Explain to me how Marxism isn’t a load of pseudo bullshit?

Where leftists go after continueously getting btfo over and over. There they continue to get btfo even more by ironic larpers who enjoy their buttsalt

I live in Manhattan. My whole world is /leftypol/. You can't imagine the horror.

yes i shitpost on /leftypol/ daily. One of the mods are on to me but im not banned yet.

I hate listen to Chapo Trap House. Read the Guardian, HuffPo, NYTimes, etc..

If you just get your info from pol, TDS, FTN, Breitbart... you're completely useless to the movement. You have to be aware of the strongest arguments from the other side, and have counters to them, instead of only seeing weak cherry picked SJW arguments.

Commie hell hole

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Who cares what those thinkers have to say?
In the real world every socialist experiment failed, with a human loss of up to a 100 million lives.
How is: but in my fantasy it works" a good counterargument?

>know for a fact
Fucking wot?
>it has never been tried
>lol no food
Not true?

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Why would I need to go to Leftypol when i can stay here and get shilled by leftists all day?

To actually carefully examine what their ideology has to say, inform yourself, and not get your worldview from trolls?

/leftypol/ isn't real Paco.

I stopped being a leftist in high school.
Most leftists end up becoming right wing. Virtually no right wingers become leftist.
In a consumerist cosmopolitan shithole like the modern West, leftism is nothing more than an industry. It's mass-produced morality for atheists. It's political-edginess for those who both don't know anything about politics and are too scared of social repercussions to actually be edgy. Go LARP as a fucking communist in public all you want, literally NOTHING will happen to you, and there's a reason why things are like that. Meanwhile, not wanting your own people to die out will get you beaten, jailed, bankrupted, or even killed.
What really stopped me from being a leftist was seeing how the typical leftist looked. They're a horde of genetic trash. Ugly fucking out-of-shape cretins with poor social skills who were blessed (or rather cursed) with slightly above average intelligence. A cringy mob of trannies, furries, pedophiles, and all other manner of sexual deviants. Why the fuck are they all porn-addicted perverts? Why the fuck are they all middle to upper class and mooching off their parents? Why are they all hedonistic consumer slaves, despite claiming to hate capitalism? It's because the only people that become leftists are teenagers and manchildren.

>implies your worldview is from trolls
>not getting a worldview from the actual world
>get your “worldview” from a bunch of commie larpers
This is good..

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I sure wonder who created this /leftypol/ thread.

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You found Jow Forums in 2010?
That’s amazing, considering it was made in 2011

Outside of Batman or Iron Man, how often do you see a good-hearted businessman portrayed in the Media? How much traction do conservatives and libertarians get in the media landscape? In the discourse of ideas, compared to liberals? Outside of business school, how many right-wing academics do you see, in the institutions of higher learning funded by capitalists? Why do you have giant foundations (Ford Foundation, etc) funding leftist thinkers, lavishing them in awards, grants, and documentaries?

I was big on revleft about ten years ago and read everything from early utopian socialists to Marx to the various Russian revolutionary ideologies to anarchism to situationism and postcolonial critical theory shit. Immersing yourself in it with an open mind, it's easy to find some of it compelling but the complete lack of functional self critique mechanisms and the authoritarian discourse of something that claimed to seek the abolition of hierarchy never sat well with me.

After the novelty of learning about all these visions of a different world wore off, I came to notice a pattern on revleft and the circuit of blogs that were popular there - they didn't really have any principles or ideals. People would arbitrarily pick random revolutionary theoreticians they felt an affinity to and get mired in completely pointless debates about how Mao and Khrushchev were revisionists and Hoxha was the only proper implementation of Marxism-Leninism or about how Trotsky was responsible for Kronstadt, just completely asinine nonsense.

Ultimately, I found there was nothing meaningful or transcendental in leftism and none of the passion or outrage seemed genuine. Nihilistic dissent for its own sake and an exercise in trying to make terrible ideas sound more sophisticated by dressing them up in anachronistic jargon.

Me!

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I’m actually a republicrat but I get shunned for it here so I keep to myself. If we take nationalism and marry it with technology then literally nobody has to work. Technology suppression is what’s holding it back.

Pre-cast homes from ceramic or concrete, made in a day with a budget of 1-3k are already a thing but companies are blocked from being allowed to practice this. Or even geothermal harvesting, or hydroelectric conversion. Or hydropower engines. It is suppressed to keep capitalism alive. I don’t trust any politician including our current government.

>go to reddit
>ask questions
>get banned

I went there once and they banned me in 15 minutes. The niggers.

They are completely against nature and as marxists they are pretty much flat earthers.

They copy whatever Jow Forums does(left can't meme) for me they are super NPCs .Okay there may be some that ,just like the ideology or whatever but I can't understand or relate to people who are for the genocide of my people .

If they accepted nationalism and stopped with that tranny stuff and presented something vaguely nationalist and anti-Semitic like Stalinism etc more would come , something like national Bolshevism or strasserism interests me also.Its not gay ,it accepts real diversity and that nation's exist.

Only positive thing I have to say about them (and there is always something good and bad about most people and process ,and bad ) is that there are some good arguments against capitalism BUT it's nothing I haven't heard from national socialists who even go a step further and NAME these giant capitalists.

Its also not really needed as their views are promoted constantly by the media and our government.If they stopped the anti white racism it would be more appealing but it's just full of that. Self loathing weak effiminate Traitors .

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>taste of communism
I always wondered how "nothing" tasted

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Can you post them here

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i've visited a few times just to challenge my opinions.

what i got was some of the stupidest memes i could imagine and none of them were funny. it is the biggest nigger loving faggot-fest for some of the limpest of wrists i could imagine.

they do hate jews even more than pol/ though. I have a theory on this... they aren't afraid of jews because jews are not very physically intimidating and exist in relatively small numbers. This gives them a "safe" way to fight "the powers that be" without ever having to fight. They will never insult niggers and spics because they are deathly afraid of any kind of physical confrontation. The funny part is their criticisms of the jews are due to a lack of understanding of the jews whereas here they are hated for being exactly what they are. I do not believe any of them are smart enough to put together a proper argument against jewery due to a lack of understanding. In their minds it is simply "rich hook nosed (((white))) man bad". Their dislike for them is not sincere and they could honestly care less about the degredation of morality. Jews serve as a convenient, physically weak, rich boogeyman that they will never have to engage in combat... a grand villian to make themselves feel masculine as they job to niggers, mudlimes, and spics. In reality they attack the only wealthy (((elites))) that support their faggotry, but morality is an abstract to their minds and it is simply "rich man bad". They are useful idiots to international jewery and the elites in general.

In short, they are weak ass faggots. very very stupid people.

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One can look at current events through the context of nations and race or through the context of ruling class and working class. Both are extremely relevant but the former is vastly more urgent given the circumstances. Only NPCs believe they have to "pick" One because well known ideologies have a clear emphasis.

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It's from the MDE World Peace teacher sketch

I found this pic on leftypol

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>How often do you challenge your worldview, Jow Forums?
News, entertainment, schools, internet, and most public venues are all ruled by ardent leftists. If you're asking a right winger "how often do you challenge your worldview" chances are you've never actually questioned anything yourself.

It is very easy to just get angry when you see a leftist (see: mainstream liberal) talking point come up in media, but never actually challenge your right-wing worldview.

>If you're asking a right winger "how often do you challenge your worldview" chances are you've never actually questioned anything yourself.
Some years ago I was a hard-on "gas the jews, ethnostate now" fascist.

gutenberg.org/files/8117/8117-0.txt
Best book on communism.

Yes, and the vast majority of them are dumb mouthbreathers that either deny the existence of any actual communist programs/countries while the other half are completely oblivious or in outright denial of the problems that these programs/countries have.
Both of them (just like their idol), deny the relevance of any factors unrelated to class as a part of the false consciousness.

Much like many of the nazi flag posters on this site, they're almost a kind of self parody that lacks any awareness about how what they're saying appears to people not totally indoctrinated by their ideology.

I go whenever the board here shits itself, and I'm reminded how much more entertaining a board is when it's quick, and when the whole board doesn't spam a list of books to read if I express disdain for Marxism, Lenin, or the CCCP, if I don't get outright banned.

I support socialized healthcare... if we can have socialized police, firemen, and military why not?

despite what you believe, beaner, we are not a hivemind. we are not largely libertarian memesters although a large minority of us are.

the problem is that there are no strong white men in your movement and there is a reason for that and that reason is that the movement only serves to emasculate the white man.

essentially it boils down to perpetually viewing people of color as victims that need your financial support. The reason we don't have nice things (for many of us) is that our money is STOLEN from us and redistributed to pedro and laquanda in the form of baby bonuses, free housing, free healthcare, and other programs that would not help us even if we were on death's door.

only a weakling signs up to be a slave willingly.

Making Propaganda Great Again

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nypa

/leftypol/ is a bit of a joke, I've made several threads there. They banned me for asking questions and presenting historical facts.

I can tell you don't actually go when you suggest they deny the existence of socialist countries, even though they have a DPRK thread usually on page 1 that has no bump limit. It's far more typical for /leftypol/ to defend 20th century socialist states, while claiming something like they could have been improved under different conditions. Like using new information technology to assist with planning, or having "market socialism", or being more democratic without the international threat of a cold war, or typically being birthed from civil wars that involved invasion by multiple world powers like the USSR did. Coincidentally all the anarchist experiments failed their civil wars or invasions, but every totalitarian marxist-leninist state was able to maintain cohesion and endure.

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>maintain cohesion
>endure

so you mean when the military completely takes over the country and decides they deserve to eat better than you and all niceties are taken away that the citizens somehow endure such savage faggotry and win?

really makes you think... about stupid shit.

>market socialism
lmao, and you call yourself a commie? You're an edgy social democrat, nerd.

Oh boy, and here comes the emotional outrage and building up a strawman. Epic win friend, but no. That isn't what I said, if you want to try again I might talk with you. Otherwise, you are the kind of person who would get banned for being a willfully retarded ape.

I'm not as disdainful of the term as some others on /leftypol/, but I wouldn't describe myself as a market socialist.

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>I can tell you don't actually go when you suggest they deny the existence of socialist countries
Maybe you just haven't been around very long, user.
>or having "market socialism"
Many of them did.
>Coincidentally all the anarchist experiments failed their civil wars or invasions, but every totalitarian marxist-leninist state was able to maintain cohesion and endure.
Proving that hierarchy works better than anarchy.

However, you neglect to mention that ALL (one hundred fucking percent) communist countries suffered from hidden MASS INFLATION, which made a transition to post-communism a fucking nightmare.

> maintain cohesion and endure.
Also, this isn't in any way true whatsoever.
Marxist-leninist states were totally unable to supress local national identities, and that's why the iron curtain fucking fell apart.
The tendency to desire local independence and freedom from communism's failed internationalism was evident throughout the international's relatively short existence.

>"market socialism"
In fact, I'm fairly sure that this was implemented even before Lenin died.

Nevermind, I didn't realize market socialism was a thing, it just sounded like social democracy.

I went into a lefty group on facebook once and they were talking about islam. I said "why do we as communists stick up for muslims so hard? it is the most conservative religion on the planet and they hate gays, jews, and most of all us! they hate communism, this makes no sense" I was banned immediately. the one moderator tried to get me back in but the other mods and the admin thought my views were "unsafe"

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>norks

wow it's like they have one very nice future city where all the rich military industrial complex guys, spooks, and technological innovators live surrounded by thousands of miles of starving peasants dying from easily preventable shit.

Those commies really know a thing or two about equality and showing the rich man who's boss, amirite?

go fuck yourself. there is no "intelligent" conversation to be had with you.

you have to go back.

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I asked a simply philosophy question and got perma-banned. So much for being open-minded.

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>However, you neglect to mention that ALL (one hundred fucking percent) communist countries suffered from hidden MASS INFLATION, which made a transition to post-communism a fucking nightmare.

That seems extremely reductionist. There were a huge amount of reasons transitions were a nightmare differing by country. There was massive amounts of confusion in supply chains across the old soviet bloc and people essentially pillaged old state property on their way out the door. It was much more than just some kind of suppressed currency inflation, there were political, social and economic stresses.

But as far as the cohesion thing, sure it collapsed eventually, we know that. I'm saying that the USSR survived its civil war because it had a strong centralized state that was able to beat off foreign invaders and suppress rebellions (even by its own military). The USSR's variant eventually died under the weight of the system that was built in those fires, but others have survived. It is a lot more nuanced than just "the communist dictatorship is always unstable". China's party has been a lot more capable of maintaining its political power and adjusting to its circumstances than the Soviets were, and other states like the DPRK or Cuba have employed their own methods of maintaining in the face of famines and critical collapse in supply chains.

Communism is the classic cure that's worse than the sickness. We do need a global order, but it has to be implemented with care or it will blow up. Humanity is basically SOL, the environment or nuclear war will destroy us before we can stabilize as a civilization.

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grown ass adults do not play in ballpits

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I have.
Let me explain the problem with /leftypol/, ignoring how banhappy some of the mods get.
They just don't fucking understand how people think, this is their problem, this is the core problem of all radical left-wing ideals, and while they're shiver in horror at how "versatile" fascism can be, they never even attempt to understand that versatility or mimic it.
>But that's cuz muh fascism is just demagoguery and has no strong principals
The principal rule of marketing, is that time wasted explaining your product is time you could've spent selling it.
Argue with any radical leftist, and you'll find that their "theory" is highly improbable for the ordinary person to breach, this isn't to speak of its intellectual "rigor", but rather there are so many forms of leftism with so many highly contradictory ideals spending their time trying to speak as the "face" of leftism, that they end up tiring people with exclamations that they have to read more theory or they just don't "get it".
For example, I've heard
>Democrats aren't left wing, what defines left and right is support or opposition to capitalism.
Followed by
>Marxism isn't left wing, it never claimed to be left wing, progressives sure are though!
You'll have these people huff and pretend that you're an "idiot" or just don't care if their constantly contradicting themselves leads to a confusing definition of Socialism or Leftism, but that doesn't change the fact that the constant arguing and self-contradicting among leftists leaves one with the impression that they're just playing games to avoid taking responsibility for failed left wing projects.
Secondly Marxism, in its efforts to be a kind of "scientific socialism" had failed utterly to achieve the kind of leftism that was palpable to the actual working class in first world countries like America.
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>mexican
>"pities ancaps"

Ancaps arent the smartest ppl around, but your commie atitude explains why your country is so shitty

I do agree with hardcore original communists. But there are none of those left.

21st century commies are all pussies.

I'd kill for a legit dictatorship of the proletariat. Could probably make it work with better technology.