Anxiety Disorders

I dunno drinking beer seems to fix my anxiety every day

anxiety is just energy viewed negatively

its the same energy as excitement. I used to play pro hockey and that shit was dangerous af. I was forced to deal with anxiety on a daily basis

the best way is to completely surrender to it. feel it fully. then act as if its all excitement. and it will turn into excitement

>I have it under control
Do you?

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depending on your severity try lifting and HITS.
Look into your diet.
Research scientific studies of medicinal plants that have anti anxiety properties.

It's not the same thing at all. That temporary rush from being in a stressful situation has a release when it's over. Anxiety just stays with you.

Been fighting this shit for 5+ years. Five fucking years. I have made good progress with vitamin D (6000iu daily) at least 1 hour of walking outside a day, and forcing myself to do things that give me anxiety. I can go months feeling good then this shit hits me out of nowhere. I have never taken meds though, and I hope I never will.

You're stupid because people weren't meant to live in the depressing boring western shit holes, people in the west are the most bored in the history or human existence and the mass anxiety and depression in the west tells us this

nah anxiety stays with you because you never actually face the fear that youre running from

like if I was a pussy and stayed in the dressing room instead of getting out on that ice, I would be left with that low level gnawing anxiety for life

This is true. This guy is on the money.

you eat garbage and you never go for nature walks. and this is your divine punishment

I hope you never have it. It's horrible. It's easy to laugh (and I did, a lot) until you get it.

There is no fear people are so bored their mind creates fear out of nothing

I Don't know how I could possibly translate my symptoms into excitement desu

Big if true. I've tried meditating and I can't into trance.

For anxious people theres actually a lot of herbal stuff which is genuinely effective.

Valarian extracts (drops, teas, etc) all work on the same receptors as your beloved benzos.
Theanine is wonderfully effective for those with milder anxiety.

If you're desperate to suck big pharms teat however, Buspirone is the way to go. Only accept SSRIs if youre a low T cuck who wants to fuck his neuronal messaging.

Bipolar-user fag here. Anxiety and ADHD are both overly diagnosed because there is a big push to over-medicate than increase the risk of suicide. SSRI (Anti depressants) tend to induce a state of emotionless numb.

A large part of managing a pysch disorder is trail and error medication and trying to find the right cocktail of meds that will allow you to function without being an emotional zombie.

desu I go off medications more often than not because the mood stabilizers/Benzos/SSRI cause me to be either boring (No HypoMania) or depressed.

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surrender to them. feel those feelings. then amplify those feelings 10x

once you do that, surrender again. then feel excitement. feel it in your bones. if you dont feel it, pretend you are feeling it

thats how you convert anxiety into excitement

Get your AST/ALT checked, just a friendly heads up. 5 years of 6K IU Vit D? You know vit D overdose is a leading cause of hepatic injury?

>nah anxiety stays with you because you never actually face the fear that youre running from
That's simply not true. Even after facing the fear -- say, going to an event, your rational brain understands that it wasn't awful, but your irrational side will still cause you anxiety the next time.
I love rollercoasters. I've gone sky diving (not that pussy tandem shit either) and bungie jumping. Yet I still have a sinking feeling leaving the house. What if I forgot something? What if my car has a flat or won't start? What if I can't find parking when I get there? No matter how many times I deal with it, it doesn't go away.

I was anxious until I stopped drinking coffee. Caffeine triggers anxiety.

I don't know if it's a legit disorder or being a bitch but I have generalized anxiety disorder and it's very hard to function in school and work. Benzos are the most helpful but are very addictive and withdrawal is horrible from them.

>withdrawal is horrible from them
They are the worst. I had them as a prescription and coming off them was the worst I've ever felt in my life. Like that horrible feeling in your gut when you blow past a speed trap on the road, only constantly for weeks. I could barely eat.

You're using a sledgehammer to nail in a tiny wooden peg on benzos. Additionally chronic benzos cause rebound anxiety when youre off them.

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Come to terms with whatever sense of impending doom over taking your mind. It's called being an adult.

It's 100% real bro, I have panic disorder and panic attacks happen at completely random moments.
For me it feels like a sudden shift of consciousness into a terrifying drug trip like state. The world feels like a dream, my heart beats a million times a minute and feels like it will explode. My breathing becomes like I'm breathing through a straw while hyperventilating. Time slows to a crawl and the most intense feeling of impending doom like I'm dying comes over me, and even though I know it's logically just a panic attack, my brain still convinces me that I'm going to die every time.
I'm prescribed 0.5mg Klonopin twice a day to help my terrible general anxiety, and 15 2mg Xanax bars per month to take as needed when/if a panic attack happens. I get about 4-8 panic attacks per month. Before medication it was every day almost.

Panic attacks are caused by your brain malfunctioning by telling you you're in a life/death fight or flight scenario, when you're not.
I've even had a panic attack while sitting on the fucking toilet ffs...

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Pol pseudoscience is the best meme. Uneducated incels think they know better than lifelong physicians

eating garbage, maybe, but nature walks, that's just retarded, that wont change anything, staying on a pretty place should help tough

Jesus cures anxiety.

>sleep at night
>fix your digestive system/blood brain barrier
>exercise a little
>remove yourself from bullshit you can't handle until you're healthy again
>try to get some sunlight everyday
>try out detoxes (heavy metals, parasites, organs)
It only seems too difficult if you're over-complicating it bros.

do you guys have any problems with acid reflux? im starting to suspect a connection between that and anxiety for me

It's real but misdiagnosed all too often. I suffered from panic attacks over the most retarded things. I knew it wasn't logical, I knew I was overreacting but I couldn't stop it.

Ive had 2 panic attacks they are fucking crazy if you don't know what it is

Want to fix acid reflux? Lose weight. I dropped 60 pounds and boom, no more reflux.

So when I'm having Panic attack after Panic Attack where my whole body goes numb from anxiety(Think Pins and Needles numbness you feel in your legs when they fall asleep, but times 10 and in your face, chest, legs etc.) where I am 100% convinced I'm having a heart attack the thing I should do is make the anxiety worse?

I get such severe anxiety that I start dissociating. My brain enters a dream like state to protect itself from the anxiety, and that of course makes me convinced i'm becoming psychotic or schizophrenic and makes the anxiety 10x worse.

Surrender to the feeling? I've tried that before many times by convincing myself its ridiculous, making myself laugh. Convincing myself that its alright If I develop this horrible illness I'll be fine etc. It only results in myself having all the physical symptoms(numbness etc.) and being in an extremely anxious state on the edge of a panic attack for the next 10+ hours. Distracting myself doesn't work. "Accepting it" also doesn't work.

I also don't see how It is possible to be excited about having a stroke or a heart attack. Or being excited about the fact that I'm convinced I'm developing Schizophrenia and am going to start hearing voices any second now.

I do actually. I wouldn't be surprised, your body has a lot of physical reactions in response to stress.

im already skinny so weight isnt the problem for me. i have mostly LPR not actual heartburn, and i get it hours after i eat even bland shit. also bad stomach bloat

Yup, benzodiazepines saved my life. I would've offed myself if I had to deal with daily full blown panic attacks.

The long term side-effects are worth it to me. Memory loss, chance of early onset alzheimer's, and a 4-8 year lower lifespan. At least I can live happily now though.

>made up shit for Big Pharma to sell more medication
>real condition
These are both subjective and non-mutually-exclusive distinctions.

Yes, and sleep apnea, I've lost 76lbs though and it's helping a lot, anxiety remains the same though.

Without looking I'm almost certain they've been mostly discovered by berg's and stein's

anyone ever connect their anxiety to food allergies? like do you notice a connection between something you eat and anxiety that comes out of nowhere

It's because you have too much adrenaline. Stimulants like coffee or whatever will make it worse. Only cure is lots of sleep and social interaction. Good social interaction that is.

It's all bullshit, anxiety isn't real. Anyone who claims otherwise is just a worthless attention whore who is too soft for the real world and 1000 years ago would have (and should have) been tossed off a cliff sparta-style when their frailty became obvious. They contribute nothing and they know they contribute nothing, which they mask with "MUH anxiety" because that's easier than saying "I'm too lazy to improve myself"

I know it's fucked up, but taking antacids may have caused you to not be able to properly break down your food. That may be why you're bloated. have you tried a Pepcid-type pill? If you take that for like 3-4 weeks, you may be able to go a while without antacids and let your stomach acid normalize.

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That's not anxiety, you likely have a bacterial infection.

Caffeine gave me my first panic attack. Anytime I drink Caffeine I have a panic attack 100% guaranteed and they are some of the worse panic attacks of my life. The Panic attacks I get when I'm not on Caffeine are milder but still bad.

Other than that no. It's so strange since I can use Amphetamine(Adderall, Vyvanse etc.) no problem with no anxiety. In fact Amp actually relaxes me and calms me down.

There is always desire to be something more within human. Usually it manifest itself through materialistic ways, sexual ways, through drugs or parenthood example. It is endless chasing, rat-race that leads nowhere but keeps you busy through own creation that people calls as life.

We can't remember our time as toddlers because we didn't exist in that time. We had no identity. Only when years has gone while we gathered data from our environment we created identity. When we have our identity, we decide what matters to us. Then we experience impulsive feelings when things didn't go as we wanted.

We are piece of life that creates own image and plays it (Genesis 1:27 So God created man in His own image). We get so tangled to our own creation that it can kill us and bring us into hell. We think that something or someone causes our misery even when we alone create everything within.

We have all this mysterious desire to do something, be something more. It usually manifest itself through sexual ways, materialistic ways, through parenthood, dating, drugs, games, food, alcohol.. you name it. Through that it leads nowhere, it keeps us happy for a moment and then we need more. So where we are now? We are piece of life that want to experience bigger part of it. Through physical ways it finds not that part and when that need to expand finds no expression we create this pain within. So what to do? This is what meditation is all about. We don't want to identify to our thoughts or to our outward senses. That is just the data we gathered from the physical and created self from it. When we learn to be still, just be as piece of life, something start to happen that seems to expand you into everywhere. It seems to that consciousness, awareness is the basic that exist and everything else is manifest of it.

What (((they))) wan't is to bind us more and more into physical, sins, into that rat-race i wrote about above, so that we wouldn't learn or even think about this.

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>say the attention whore just looking for (You)s

You're right on with the stimulants. Even coffee causes severely heightened anxiety and more panic attacks for me. Sedatives usually always help, except for marijuana, weed causes instant panic. non-psychoactive CBD is okay though.

What the fuck do westerners have to be "anxious" about?

You faggot beta cucks don't have to worry about getting clean water, whether there is electricity, whether or not there will be food in the supermarket or basic medicines tomorrow?

There is literally nothing to be anxious about in the first world.

Kill yourselves you pathetic betas.

I was this bad a couple years ago. I couldn't even drive a car anymore because the derealization was so bad. You can get through it but the pharma will just mask it at best, exacerbate it at worst. You have to confront the cause and learn to enjoy life again, and it's a grueling process but you'll learn so much about yourself and life and death. Your consciousness totally expands beyond the limits of what you thought would be possible before, if you deal it succesfully. I never wanted to kill myself more than then; not just because I was in such agony and so restless for so many years but because of the same I felt for being weak like this. But I didn't and I'm really grateful that I didn't now.

It's all connected bros. If you have issues with stomach acid, you probably have intestinal permiabiity and blood-brain barrier permiability as well. The apnea is more from cerabellum damage, it's probably not an issue of being obstructive sleep apnea.

About mid-way through fixing myself, do you have any auto-immune disorders as well? Eczema or some bullshit like that at this point?

societies do not offer aspirational futures, easier to make everyone blame their uncurable hidden affllictions and guilt trip everyone else into questioning it

>what if my car has a flat

That's totally normal and you should check your tires at least every day

Sometime caused by age
> Teens (face adulthood)
> Midlifers (face death)

yeah same i have sleep apnea too. bad lower reflux that tickles my chest and makes me cough and clear my throat a lot, but no heartburn. i have noticed that i get a weird tickly panicky feeling that seems to start from the same spot in my esophaghus and then triggers like a panic attack kind of, its worse if i take a deep breath, i feel the prickles in my lungs and then it feels like i got hit with a shot of adrenaline for no reason. this can happen moments after i wake up or sometimes randomly after a meal. i dont think i have anxiety but the doctor thinks i do. i keep telling him im not nervous or anxious and only freak out when i get this weird adrenaline surge and feel short of breath, like my lungs feel heavy and the chest muscles feel too weak to lift them. i dont know its weird shit, came sortof out of nowhere like a couple months ago, went away for a bit, then came back and got bad a few weeks ago. literally couldtn even eat food without triggering a spikey prickly panic attack. was wondering if thats what ulcers feel like or something? i didnt eat much for like 3 days and it seemed to get a bit better but now i have burning nerve pain behind my shoulder blades, i think its connected

All my symptoms are symptoms of anxiety disorders and panic disorders. I've tested myself for all sorts of bacteria, all came back negative. Antibiotics have no effect on my symptoms, and I've tried many different antibiotics over the years for colds.

Anxiety also runs in my family. I have many cousins who are well know at the ER since they keep having panic attacks about having a heart attack etc. and showing up. My father went to the hospital many times for Panic Attacks. When I told my Mother my symptoms she told me "I went through the exact same symptoms when I was your age". Pretty sure this is an anxiety disorder.

Try the medication, if you don't like it stop.

I had severe panic attacks and took xanex in my early 20s, just take it when you need one.

Anymore I'm mostly over them and just keep a few beers on hand just in case. No pills since I've grown out of anxiety mostly.

Also long work hours, financial insecurity, lack of family life

It's not really your fault if you live in a sick society and get panic attacks. Someone in different life would call you normal.

About happy pills:
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Show me evidence that mental illness is caused by chemical imbalances in the brain.

And most of all distance from God and atheism

Niggers

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Based and redpilled. Its a world sinking into the last chapters of Revelation

it's made up nigger
they diagnosed me with that when i was in my twenties
had panic attacks then, and then kind of grew out of it.
ssri's are damaging to your brain long term

It's nice to get drugs from doctor. Used to think that only dealers can supply me.

yeah doctors had me on omeprazole (PPI) for a while, i told them it wasnt fixing the problem i was still getting reflux and having to clear my throat and feeling like i was drowning if i ate too big a meal. all it did was make the reflux bland and not burn but it still irritates and makes me cough frothy mucous all the time and feel like i have asthma from it. after about an hour of that shitty feeling it goes away so i think my stomach is fucked up, probably a weak sphincter valve from my internet research

Faggot ass Jewish atheist.

muh anxiety.
sorry you cant cope.
theres no magic pill.

Exactly, you don't have to worry about them either. You don't need to lock your houses up like Fort Knox and keep firearms within arm's reach in every room.

Literally NOTHING to be anxious about.

You're incredibly ignorant.
With medication, I'm almost totally normal and can do almost anything anyone else can.

My MRI and Doctors must be fabricating results showing my physical and chemical changes in my brain/body huh?

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i do suffer from panic attacks but i dont take anything for them. I prefer to take no drugs and let the body do its natural thing

cbd oil and going out more should fix it. Also try something that will trigger your fight or flight like rollercoasters

>That's totally normal
I don't think everyone is legitimately worried about this every time they go to their car.

>meditate it'll all go away
This was 100% true in my case. I had severe anxiety, panic attacks, i was losing my mind, i had Derealization 24/7 and this was going for long time. I realized some things about life when researching from internet and when i started meditating because of it, it was like miracle medicine, every mental problem i had was gone, just like that. I've been meditating everyday since then.

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That is because you are a gheii. Real men take pills.

>user
>take your medicine
>and watch TV
>for your own good
>oy vey

Well then, I get panic attacks too and I still work full-time. Maybe you need to try different meds. I have a hunch it's hormonal. But yea, working definitely helps, like physical work. And talking to people about the weather and shit like that.

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My acid reflux is almost entirely gone, and sleep apnea improved after losing ~80lbs though. Anxiety unchanged however..

It's excitement + fear. Ie. they're being fucking hysteric.

Same happened to me. I got super fit, ate right, and had zero reduction in anxiety.

eyah i get this shit called pomphlox (dishydrotic eczema) its like these little mini blister bumps that form on the sides of my fingers and palms and then dry out and start to peel . doctor said it was just becasue i was using soap that irritates my skin but thats bullshit because i have tried not using any soaps at all for over a month, including no shampoo and i still get this shit. i thought it might be a reaction to food or something from some internet research, i dont know at this point ive pretty much given up hope since doctors just want to give me SSRIs and turn me into a zombie

Anxiety and Ego-Defense Mechanisms
Freud specified three major types of anxiety:

Reality Anxiety: the most basic form, rooted in reality.Fear of a dog bite, fear arising from an impending accident.

Neurotic Anxiety : Anxiety which arises from an unconscious fear that the libidinal impulses of the ID will take control at an in opportune time. This type of anxiety is driven by a fear of punishment that will result from expressing the ID's desires without proper sublimation.

Moral Anxiety : Anxiety which results from fear of violating moral or societal codes, moral anxiety appears as guilt or shame.

Anxiety is conflict between EGO and ID.

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I'm a psychiatrist. It's real. You'll probably be started on an SSRI as they're proven efficacious. You may get Alprazolam for quick relief while your SSRI kicks in but it's fallen out of favor.

Cut way back on carbs and sugar. Keto or Paleo diet focus.

That's very peculiar user, I've never experienced exactly what you have. You see a specialist for it yet?

the real messed up thing is giving ssris to people with depression

You mean mental illness in General? How about the fact that antipsychotics that block Dopamine receptors(lowering the amount of Dopamine Activation in the brain) dramatically alleviate almost all of the major symptoms of Schizophrenia(Paranoia, Delusions Hallucinations etc.) significantly more than Placebo(Sugar Pills)

The invention of Thorazine(The first antipsychotic that blocks dopamine) in the 1960s was compared to the invention of Penicillin as a watershed moment in medical history. Patients who had been stuck in a psychotic state(Babbling and screaming incoherently, impossible to communicate with, Extremely Paranoid and Hallucinating) for 20 straight years were brought down to a somewhat normal healthy state of mind with one injection of Thorazine. One injection and they go from severe psychosis to a somewhat normal state where you could have a normal conversation with them and 95% of their Hallucinations and Delusions essentially just vanished.

90-95% of the Hospital beds in Mental hospitals were emptied and the patients discharged to live a normal life in society after the invention of Thorazine.