Prop 1

Michigander here, how should I vote on recreational marijuana?
What would you do?

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Washington here
we're still rally liberal so it's hard for an outsider to tell but the legal pot really put a dent in the lefty protests because all the lib kids are too stoned to organize
today is nov. 5 and the usual anonymous march has about 30 people

pot isn't really a liberal or conservative issue it's a libertarian vs authoritarian issue about weather you think the government should control you

Vote to legalize so we can directly supply Canada - Kzoo checking in

Regulated and taxed like alcohol is a good thing. Maybe they'll get enough fucking revenue to fix some of our god damned roads.

Don't do it, it's fucking destroying this country there are weeded-up zombies littering the streets, I can't even leave my house because they are everywhere and might blow the weedsmoke at me pls send help I am almost out of eggs

If you wanna get t-boned by a guy who's high and have the police show up and not be able to do anything about it because he has a prescription, go for it. Happened to me.

b-but...
>DUDE WEED

West MI reporting. Vote yes on Prop 1.

Prop 1 will regulate weed like alcohol and there is literally zero readon not to do this

>have to be 21 to purchase or possess
>cant drive stoned (police will use saliva tests)
>cant smoke in public places
>can carry up to 3 oz in a car at a time and can possess like 14 in your house
>10% tax
>over 90 mil expected revenue which will go to schools and shitty mi roads


63% of likely voters polled were in favor, 35% against, 2% undecided.

Recreationally legal = no prescription required

There are already weed zombies everywhere, I don't give a fuck shit about them. Let them smoke their lives away, we need that revenue

Legalize it so drug dealers get put put of fucking business.

I know too many that will end up on the fucking street

Traverse city walkaway voter here i think i will vote no because legalization has turned other places into degenerate shitholes see portland sanfransisco denver etc. However it should be up to the individual and it would cut out drug dealers so im on the fence a bit plus trump is for legalizing weed so same question i guess what do?

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They will sell harder shit, which will kill most of them and their customers good riddance

This is the outcome Im hoping for, our roads are dogshit

Good cant wait.

Those places have BEEN liberal shit holes for decades bro

PLEASE fucking do it, it will attract the DUDE WEED faggots to your state instead of mine

By the way op, most polls show it will pass easily if that helps

>spend only 25% of the gas tax on roads, less than the national average of almost 50%
Its a problem but one that wont be solved with more taxes.

Look at the gas tax one of the highest in the nation supposed to go to roads yet roads still look like they were carpet bombed

I would vote yes im in texas and we will probably be one of the last even though were on the border with shitxico

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This is why i am hesitant although the burnout meth zombies dont do well in michigan winters

I'd say vote yes whatever the specifics are.

What are the laws regarding growing?

How many plants? Indoor and outdoor? Or just indoor?

vote no, do not let jews into this industry

Indoor only, 12 plants allowed

If i were you i'd ask what is the downside of legalizing weed

there aren't just jews getting into this lol, Canada is literally running out of marijuana, Canada and Michigan are best buds - it would mean so much money for this state

Yeah just keep it safe for Mexican cartels and send white disc golfers into court ordered tax subsidized treatment facilities or jails or probation offices.

Vote Yes. Support Freedom. Reduce government.

Don’t, we have enough problems as it is without legalizing weed and further emboldening stoners.

they wouldn't be able to sell it to them or the feds would get butthurt because its still illegal to them

I like to get high

Portland and San Francisco weren't degenerate shitholes before legal marijuana?

I'm pretty sure Portland and San Francisco have been degenerate shitholes for decades. Castro district is where? What do they do there and how long have they been doing it?

It seems like the people who are most against legalization (at least in another state) are the current weed dealers and others in the marijuana industry who like it the way it is. High price marijuana.

The key result of legalization is much cheaper prices for the consumer, and also legal grows.

Lol this would actually create more state government jobs as well, it's regulation

This happens every day on the heroin analogues prescribed by doctors, and it's drinkable equivalent, alcohol.

Making it worse with legal weed wont help anything.

Underground economy powers much of michigans poor, we've lost so many manufacturing jobs its sick

You could grow a year's supply for personal use in one cycle with 12 plants easily.

alcohol is like a drinkable benzo, not an opiate.

If it allows people to grow their own it's good. If it's just weed stores it's garbage.

But there is less government regulation over what an adult can choose to consume, and less fines dolled out to the citizens for possession.

Legal marijuana will probably happen

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Also might i add that Trump will use legal marijuana as a taking point in 2020

Good point, thought of that after the post.

Understood my libertarian friend, Im all in

12 Flowering + additional veg, or 12 total?

Either way, 12 is good. Maine had 6 flowering 12 veg, unlimited seedlings, and they cut the number of flowering to 6 and that's a pain to some.

Indoor only isn't as good as Maine's Indoor + Outdoor.

Also, that 10% tax isn't bad at all.

Maine voted yes in November 2016, and the stores still aren't open.

Vote yes. The jews are trying to ban marijuana and cbd because it's helps people with seizures. They want to sell their bullshit medication that costs 300x as much, doesn't work, and gives you anger problems.

Only nu-Jow Forums wants more government regulations. The fuck is your problem zoomers vote yes

>it's a libertarian vs authoritarian issue
Fuck your freedom

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You will get every hippy for 8 states. Everyone will work all the time, but they will work like shit. Half their shit will be perfect, and they'll forget the other half entirely.
But if you pay them, they'll put that money into weed and taxes, and your recent immigrants who have no qualms selling weed to anyone will make good cash.
You won't make what Colorado or Oregon did, and you'll cut into their market as well.
If your police and courts spend the free time chasing murderers and rapists, that's great. If they instead look for substitution revenue and prison industry seat filling on lesser charges...

cringe

b-b-burtt muh degenerucy. if you aren't a stormfag you're a liberal. go to tumblr, liberal.

Legal here in Nevada, and I support it.

Oh, definitely.

It depends on few things. How much you smoke and how long you veg. As well as how many watts.

12 is more convenient than 3. When you only can do 3 at a time, you maybe plan to veg longer. But a lot of it has to do with watts, and what kind of lights you have. It's just better to have 6 than 3 and 12 is better than 6.

Yea, why don't you just ignore the evidence that it's a psychoactive that permanently alters brain function with regular use. You should just accept that I have to break the law, and feel bad for me that I have to break the law for something I tell you I can't get addicted to!

yes, your state will get shitloads of money for something people do already

>Fuck your freedom
you should print that on your money

I'm voting no because it's still too early. Legal weed would attract way too many liberal pot heads. I'd rather we be the 20th+ state to legalize or wait until it goes federal.

Vote yes because the Jews want you to vote no?

Who gives a fuck, people who are smoking it are going to keep doing so but it makes them interact with niggers and spics and fund drug cartels and gangs while risking their lives and imprisonment. You don't care about your countrymen and hold onto some stupid idea of the world being pure before the war on drugs, people have been getting high and drunk for thousands of years sweaty

Why do you want a nanny state? It's literally been shown that decriminalizing drugs leads to fewer drug users. Here's a tip, buddy: half the shit you see on Jow Forums is roleplay. Quit taking the authoritarian shit seriously and think for yourself.

I'm voting against marijuana because 1) it's for degenerates and 2) they can just fucking go to canada and do that shit there

Maybe they will start carrying more addys and help productive degenerates like me. Adderall is the anti-weed

>people who are smoking it are going to keep doing so
No, they literally are going to be careful about when and where, and how much, because if they get stupid and fuck up, they go to jail and lose their jobs.
I'm gonna warn you, wait another decade and watch Colorado for news of collapsing buildings, and general fuckery of shit falling apart, despite a high marker of happiness about life.
You can chem your way to happiness by clouded vision, but it does fuck your ability to do more complex tasks at a regular rate. That means fucked up bridges, poorly build buildings, bad wiring connections, leaky pipe joints, and improperly calibrated machinery.
Everyone in Colorado is nice, and happy, but they're literally fucking retarded level stupid, and you can tell they used to be sharp.

>It's literally been shown that decriminalizing drugs leads to fewer drug users.
Only if you also invest in propaganda and "health services" that suck the dick of every former addict weekly.
One nation's current apparent success isn't a guarantee.

You're okay. Got these in US. Valuable?

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If we were one of the last states to legalize it it wouldn't be such a big deal but I don't want these leftist faggots coming to the mitten. They can invade texas like they have been doing for the past several years.

Except pot & psychedelics are not physically addictive. The government doesn't give 2 shits about public health & that's not the reason why such drugs were banned.

also tc here, if you think weed is hard to get here because its illegal, youre fucking stupid. im voting yes.

I'm voting yes on proposal 1

I've heard a lot of worries about weed bringing a bunch of stoners to nice areas but honestly that's pretty unfounded. Ive been to dispensaries in colorado & washington that are really nice & clean buildings run by normal adults and have a really good vibe. But the ones in big cities like portland oregon are all run by these young stereotypical stoner types in dirty ass shops with big beefy motherfuckin guards and honestly felt sketchier than any drug deal or they dont even have a store but like a fucking window you buy from.

So if you live in the city like metro detroit you're probably gonna get the sketchiest places popping up, but in smaller towns & college towns it'll be mostly some nice mom & pop type of shops and legal weed won't magically make nice places trashy or vise versa.

As someone who smokes once every few months I'm voting yes obviously, but the vote's gonna be decided by the nonsmokers.

Vote for Prop 1 so I can watch Stafford do a Madden pitch to Johnson while high and think it is funny.

>Except pot & psychedelics are not physically addictive.
Then you really don't need them, do ya?

Canadian checking in, it being legal just made it less hidden. No really big deal at all. Grandma doesn't hide her habit anymore from her friends, her friends are enjoying it now too. It's great for old people's health.
I myself didn't smoke much but now it's always around. I having problems sleeping I just grab a joint and have a puff on the porch, then I sleep good.
It's nice and comfy with it legal.

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Vote yes. We're not like a lot of liberal shitholes who went fucking mental as soon as weed went legal. Detroit will burn up for a few months, Lansing will turn to shit, sure. Because neither of these places are shit to begin with. The rest of the state will basically just start doing on the front porch in the afternoon what they were doing on the back porch at night.

The only downside I see is coastie liberals will be coming here expecting to be catered to like every other liberal shithole they've made supply them with pot. I think their first ride through oh-so-cosmopolitan Flint while holding an assload of pot will be an education for everyone.

Michigan's been shit on by everyone, forgotten, and dismissed. Flyover, redneck, criminal, whatever part you look at, they have an insult. This is not a state that plays well with others. If liberals come flooding in hoping for something like LA or Denver or whatever, they're going to get a horrifying wake-up once they wander out of the casino district in Detroit. This state just quietly does whatever to both survive and make the pain bearable.

Vote yes, if only to see a bunch of new york faggots trying to talk their way out of a DUI with Michigan state police at four in the morning on some fucking farm road.

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Thanks, first laugh of the day.

Do NOT vote for laws that regulate weed! Weed needs stay illegal, and DruggieFags need to fuck off already!

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Why are you so obsessed with what others do with their bodies? Psychs can be beneficial when used responsibly. Seriously, if you don't like drugs, then don't do them, but don't infringe on the freedom of other people.

Grand rapids will turn super liberal because of this.

You're a fucking fag, kys.

Do you realize what forum you're on?

Lol highly doubt that, it's the most conservative county in the entire USA

>Psychs can be beneficial when used responsibly.
No. Kill your local dealer and save your town and nation.
Literally the only thing we have ever proven from drug use is a decrease in ability to respond, decrease accuracy, and increased emotional response to light and sound.
Finally, they bring (reported) hallucinations similar to brain damaging events like concussion, stroke, poisoning, and suffocation. Congratulations, you're taking a chemical that creates the same problems as serious brain damage, and does some of that damage permanently!

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kys

>moved on October 15
>filed change of address October 18
>I'm only able to vote in my old district until November 18 when it changes

Welp, guess I'm not voting

Easy there Satan.

You think a bunch of puffy liberals are going to commit to fucking Grand Rapids? Maybe locals, sure, but once they learn what the fuck "lake effect snow" is, people will bugger off swiftly. We're not like a lot of other legalized states. We don't really pander to hipsters, we have shitty weather, and more then half the state is fucking DEEP woods. This isn't a state that can be a good host for liberal faggots, there's too much broken fucked up stuff to easily build a leftist enclave.

If liberals wanted to do anything here, good or bad, they'd first have to actually give a fuck about the state functioning or not.

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Alcohol, Caffeine, Corn Syrup take your pick it all kills you, who cares if other people want to fucking kill themselves with this shit. Let them, hell offer them the needles to overdose with. Good riddance

Witnessed although your post is shit

I would like to see the tax higher, and double penalties on the black market deals. I would personally like to see 100% tax [yes I know this is absurdly high] but I believe it would over fund most of the things we need. Keep the funds isolated to education and infrastructure. No using this money to pay anyone but the teachers and the construction workers hired by the state. Use what is left to fund after hours educational programs and school resources.

Just my 2 cents [or would it be 4 cents now?]

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Fag.

I'm gonna trip balls on some shrooms in a couple weeks. I guess I'll have fun with my brain damage & become a druggie.

>I'm gonna become a druggie.
Mkay. Degenerate is as degenerate does.

>I've heard a lot of worries about weed bringing a bunch of stoners to nice areas but honestly that's pretty unfounded.

Have you been to Las Vegas lately? It's worse than the dozens of third world countries Ive been to. Homeless and thugs everywhere in multiples on every block. The downtown and strip have been ruined.

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You know this movie wasn't accurate, right?

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>eating a naturally growing substance is degenerate
You sound like a militant vegan.

>lately
It's been like that for a while, user. Well before the legalization of weed

>Vote yes, if only to see a bunch of new york faggots trying to talk their way out of a DUI with Michigan state police at four in the morning on some fucking farm road.


>vote yes make out of staters drive around intoxicated in our communities
do you even listen to yourself?

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Mildew and pond scum is naturally growing. High bar you're operating there.

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You’re a fag gas yourself

its at least twice as bad as the year before legalization.