Why can’t advanced countries like Japan and Germany and Italy have their own nukes? Seriously, freaking Pakistan and India have nukes. Rogue state North Korea has nukes. I see no reason why peaceful industrialized nations shouldn’t have nukes to defend themselves against big aggressors.
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BERLIN — Imagine a nuclear-armed Germany.
No, this isn’t a fantasy à la “The Man in the High Castle” (Philip K. Dick’s dystopian novel in which the Nazis got the bomb first and dropped it on Washington to win World War II), but a real debate, happening in present-day Berlin.
“Do We Need the Bomb?” read the front page headline in Welt am Sonntag, one of the country’s largest Sunday newspapers.
“For the first time since 1949, the Federal Republic of Germany is no longer under the U.S.’s nuclear umbrella,” Christian Hacke, a prominent German political scientist, wrote in an essay in the paper.
I’m pretty sure the real reason why is not because of the bomb necessarily. There is huge corruption behind nuclear power and how amazing it really can be, if you give countries the ability to produce weapons with said technology, they could convert the weapon into use for the populace, ie nuclear power.
Kayden Gomez
We are phasing out nuclear power, so really that shouldn’t be an issue here.
Lincoln Watson
building AND maintaining them is stupidly expensive and incredibly hard to do if you have a generous welfare state. it's not at all worth it if you aren't adjacent to an aggressor. this is why why Pakistan and India have them, why Israel has them in secret and why North Korea wanted to pursue them. it would make more sense for Japan and Poland to have them than it does Germany or Italy.
Brandon Russell
You guys tried to take over the world the last time you had free reign For our own safety is why we station tens of thousands of solders there
Dominic Thompson
Uhh that’s exactly my point. All these countries want the fucking bomb when in reality everyone should want nuclear power but it’s getting fucked by the (((bankers))) because they want to drip every drop of life out of the second industrial revolutions advancements. So while you’re phasing our nuclear energy and simalarly wanting the nuke itself is just a huge win. You won’t get the bomb and now you’ve lost the energy. Good job.
Jonathan Gonzalez
>That article
Fucking hell, a cum-guzzling EU army with nukes to defend against FLUMPFFFTTTT? They should just pre-emptively strike Berlin now.
Robert Edwards
also Germany doesn't have to make it's own nuclear weapons, the US rotates them in and out of various NATO countries.
Brody Johnson
Germany could team up with Canada. You make the plutonium, we make the devices and Italy makes the ICBM rockets.
Charles Baker
The NATO nukes are just tactical ones that should be used against Russian tank armies when they advance on Germany. We have no nuclear arsenal to carpet bomb another large country like Russia.
Kayden Lewis
>Why can’t advanced countries like Japan and Germany and Italy have their own nukes? Because you guys fucked up the humanity royally in the 20th century. To be honest even Russia should not have nukes.
Nations which fall into fascism, totalitarianism, military dictatorship, clerical rule, communism, or other shitty ideologies should lose the right for nuclear weapons for at least a couple hundred years.
Christopher Butler
Their own people? Nothing truly stops them from developing these weapons
Nolan Green
bc then those countries would have the burden of possessing nukes and all the associated downside with them. so in the case of japan it would be too provocative to N.Korea and china and would heighten tensions for little to no advantages. and for Germany they are just too politically green for nukes
Ryder Bailey
>he believes in nukes >but still hasn't heard of the Samson protocol Kek
Christian Butler
Why do we want a Muslim country with nukes in the middle of Europe? Just be clever, go to Poland, gain the nukes and the right to exist, and live your days in peace. With the American traitor now having no more use of us there is no reason for them to keep their (((Republic))) around. Just run already.
Levi Garcia
It's funny, Brits always expect better treatment because they're British which makes them fat and stupid. Why put any effort into anything? Being British is your ticket to being considered valuable as human being.
Austin Brooks
Hans, you are still on probation for behaving badly the last several times you tried to destroy Europe. Japan is nuclear ready but has no need to maintain a stockpile since they are happy under the US umbrella.
Matthew Ortiz
You noticed that too? I thought it was just stereotypes I already had fucking with my perception, but lately I am less and less inclined to accept that kind of reasoning. It's perverse, but it does almost feel like hope.
Democracy is a shit ideology and yet democratic countries have them
Mason Morales
Nuclear. Bombs. Do. Not. Exist. They're a hoax. Manhattan project failed but it was in their interest to claim it didn't. Look into "nukes do not exist"
William Wright
>Samson option Jews invented the nuke hoax. Then invented the Samson option hoax to tell the world they can use their fake nukes to destroy the entire world if people don't submit to them. It's like the most Jewish thing ever. "oy vey if you goyim don't submit to me i'll call my uncle he has 10,000 alien battleships docked on pluto and we aren't afraid to use em!"
Leo Nelson
Go to Hiroshima and Nagasaki. You can see many evidences of nuclear bombs.
Isaac Powell
retard or too great b8? because israel literally killed JFK for wanting to inspect Dimona and ending the fed
Nathan Jackson
>nuclear power used all over the world >simplest nuclear device is somehow fake instead conspiratards reached a new low
John Nguyen
>why can't conquered vassal states have nukes? hmmmm
Jonathan Reed
No you can't. It's all evidence of firebombing. Look into it.
Gavin Sanders
A nuclear reactor is a glorified water heater.
Bentley Diaz
>Why can’t advanced countries like Japan and Germany and Italy have their own nukes?
Because Americans want to keep whites and Asians disarmed against their policy of genocide against the superior races.
Jonathan Cook
haha fucking losers. there is literally no good reason to do that. lots of bad reasons. it's so cheap, clean, and efficient.
Joshua Kelly
>or other shitty ideologies
Like democracy? The ideology behind the biggest warmongering power for the last 70+ years?
Jaxon Jones
Liberal democracies usually have enough checks, balances, laws, institutions, norms, rights, and pacifistic domesticated peace-loving voters to actually be safe enough for the humanity even if they have the most destructive weapons on Earth.
Mason Garcia
>the biggest warmongering power for the last 70+ years? Have you fucking forgotten about the Soviet Union?
Jayden Barnes
Mate I have a piece of tile from the roof of Sairenji Temple, no fucking firestorm could melt the surface the way it is. Please also clarify how nuclear fission releasing heat to heat water is different from fission to create heat for an explosion?
Evan Ward
Soviet Union has been dissolved for nearly 30 years and has been involved in demonstrably less wars than the USA, which to this day is still fucking warmongering and occupying half the middle east. Get fucked.
Kevin Jackson
don't bother. the "nukes r fake" bait is probably the weakest shit around
Liam Johnson
As soon as you even touch the subject you will have a very vocal mob of libtards with peace signs in your city throwing molotovs and ruining the infrastructure of inocent citizens before smoking pot and looting alcohol from stores.
Logan Lee
Yeah, compared to the glorified firework, the water heater is fucking impressive.
Blake Jones
>Germany going nuclear
We're gonna liberate the shit out of you.
Ethan Perez
Having an effective nuclear ICBM weapon system is a nightmare for ZOG USA and is-ray-hell. They cannot destroy your country. The only reason north Korea and Russia are not burning wrecks being picked over by Jewish rats is because of nukes. Look at Libya, Iraq and Syria. If they had nukes ZOG wouldn't of destroyed them. Iran take note. Develop ICBM program. Aim nukes at Washington, Jerusalem and Berlin. If they murder any more of your people by shooting down more of your airliners, nuke the cunts
Grayson Turner
because nuclear bombs can kill over 5 million people in 2 minutes
We have the best uranium. No nukes or nuke power but we sell it to other countries. It's pure fuckin treason. We have enough uninhabitable land to put nuke power in places where an accident wouldn't hurt anyone but gst bucks on power bills keeps our gov pushing solar and wind as the alternative to coal power which would be cheaper if we didn't privatise power. We should be the nuclear superpower of the southern hemisphere instead of relying on the US to protect us. It's fucked up when your political choices are the left or the extreme left. Really hope the yanks have a red tidal wave. We need it for our own protection.