CHRISTIANS ON POL /cop/ POST-ELECTION EDITION

It's quite amusing when these same people come up with things like purgatory, mary immaculate, canonization, spirit communication, etc and then have the gall to tell me I dont understand the bible. Otherwise, their advice isnt wanted.

I want to try reformed theology but am not sure where to start? Any recommendation?

Don't be a cunt with the responses, dog bless.

I have a question for catholics. What is the importance of apostolic succession in the catholic faith?

dotr for kike on a stick lovers soon

The first time I ever heard of Purgatory was in the Sopranos. Anyway, where does the bible say "worship Jews and Israel like they're some kind of chosen people"

>catholic priests literally do the same ritual dionysian priests did before orgies
>"you should definitely ask them for advice"

Citation needed. A lot of claims Pr*testants make are bullshit, actually, most of them.

Any non-denominational homies here?

You assume I'm one of those, "judeo-christians?" I'm not. In fact, though bible warns people not to curse Israel, we must be realistic about WHO Israel really is today. It's not the people we call, "Jews."
I do respect the (former) catholic resolve against Masonry, though.

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The most important person in the Christian faith is the Lord Jesus Christ.

Do Baptists think they are not Protestants? That's even more ridiculous than Anglicans thinking so.

Heck yeah brother.

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Jesus said to Simon "I call you Peter (rock) and on this rock I build my church". He established a physical church on earth among the apostles.

Yes the ORTHODOX church.
The only Holy, Catholic Apostolic church.

>God bless my fellow Christian user's, lets keep the Christian general going

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>Mentioning Protestants in there

Based ecumenicalism is good, but you need to be careful. Due to their high autocephaly Satan has directly co-opted many denominations.

The Episcopalians are the worst in America, with open sodomites preaching Satan's word to the people. The Lutheran Church broke into open schism after they tried to force unrepentant homosexual acceptance.

The Southern Baptist Convention, for all the crap it gets, is one of the final strongholds in the world of Protestants that actually believe the Bible.

>You forget a quote bubble over the catholic, saying, "but dont bother reading it, you cant understand it, only I can!"
>implying we don't use bibles in local languages now

>you can't understand it
If we were wrong that you can't just pick up a bible and correctly interprate it with no theological education, there wouldn't be tens of thousands of different protestant denominations.

baptists say their chain is unbroken since 33ad

Using NGO's to infiltrate the religions and subvert them from within.
Yes, Satan wants to destroy the faith

Legitimate question.
Why are Baptists and Protestants separate? I thought they were regarded as the same.

Also, for those who doubt that God has a sense of humor, i found myself in a position where I had no choice but to check God's digits the other day.

WRONG.

"Rivers of Blood" is dismissed as heresy by the Southern Baptist Convention, for example. No Baptist takes it seriously outside of a few fringe sects.

However, our chain of Apostolic Succession, like many Protestant churches, is unbroken because we believe that a clergyman must have the Laying of Hands performed in order to serve.

No clergyman is legitimate if he hasn't received the Laying of Hands by a previously ordained minister.

Jews Are Not Israel Or The Chosen People
youtube.com/watch?v=o1vhXlSkVHE

We aren't. We are Protestant. However, we are one of the last major Protestant denominations that actually believe God when He says something is sin.

So many Protestant Churches have been destroyed by Satan and have openly allowed for unrepentant sin to not only exist within, but lead the church itself.

Baptists are Protestants fag and the orthodox and catholic priests are swapped. L2Christian

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It's necessary for all sacraments except baptism, if I'm not mistaken.

How the fuck aren’t you Protestant? Legitimate question and I expect a good answer kike.

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Wasn't aware Baptists claim apostolic succession. That's interesting.

gotta make sure enough people voted for the clergyman too, can't have God decide that, can't trust him

They don’t have any legitimate claims to succession and practically oblivious to any of the early church fathers.

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You need to add a female Episcopal priest. But what should she be holding?

The Eucharist as Cathocucks see and do it is exactly the same as the rites of Dionysians. From the Transubstantiation to the sacrifice of the mass, it's all the same.

LARPagans BTFO

Millennial and Gen Z Aryan womyn voted Left. No more cucking for them.

1 Peter 3
Ephesians 5:22

God DOES present our clergymen to us when we search for pastors.Clerical candidates are selected by the Pastor Search Committee, composed of laity and explicitly invoking the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

Most pastors are chosen in unanimity because we trust the decision God laid on the hearts of the Search Committee.

The rule in a Baptist Church is "never challenge the pastor's decisions unless he explicitly contradicts the Bible".

>Baptists and Protestants
The state protestant churches excluded "non-conformists" so Baptists and Puritans and Mennonites consider themselves separate from Protestants and more like those Christians who were always in dissent for some reason or other historically.

You mixed up Orthodox and Catholic in your image user

A dildo

There are major, fundamental differences within Catholicism. Dont know much about the orthodox, but I assume it's the same. Your point is null.

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We don't call it Apostolic Succession. We call it the "laying of hands" and it is compulsory for all clergymen, elders, and deacons.

You cannot administer the Lord's Supper (Eucharist) without being ordained AND having had hands laid on you, for example.

We also call the sacrament of baptism "obediance in baptism", because we believe that a person cannot join the Church unless he has made his statemen of faith in believers' baptism.

We're a lot more like the days of old than you want to think we are.

We need to reincarnate John Paul II

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This, but without irony. That imagre is doctored.

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John Paul was a cuck

We have as much claim as any denomination that mandates the Laying of Hands for all clergy, including Catholics and Orthodox.

If Apostolic Succession is defined as the unbroken Laying of Hands from the moment Jesus did so on His Disciples to today, then yes, we can claim it, and so can other denominations that mandate the Laying of Hands.

t. LARPagan

I simply ment that I had no idea it was something they even cared about. I thought most protestants didn't care about the concept.

>The rule in a Baptist Church is "never challenge the pastor's decisions unless he explicitly contradicts the Bible".
Seriously?

>There are major, fundamental differences within Catholicism
What?

yes lad

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>We're a lot more like the days of old than you want to think we are.
I simply don't know much about Baptists. No need to assume ill intent.

Catholicism isn't christian.

I'd prefer a man who aided in ending Communism in Europe to whatever the fuck we have now. Even if he bent over for Muslims, it's a step up from what we're currently stuck with

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Yes! Traditionalist Baptist Churches never expel or contradict a pastor unless the pastor is explicitly breaching the Bible.

Why, my maternal grandmother's church has had its choir dissolved, the organ mothballed, and its music transformed into a megachuch clone under a tyrannical music minister, but because the pastor preaches the Gospel truth and calls out sin, heresy, and vice, no one has challenged him.

The only challenges made were the resignation of much of the deaconate, because they refused to challenge the pastor due to the fact that he was not contradicting the Bible.

He allowed the man you have now to become Poop. All Poops are fags anyway, and have been for around 200 years.

How is Francis the fault of John Paul II?

I don't exactly have a very good grasp on the importance of sacraments. Are they necessary to salvation, why do they exist? And why is having apostolic succession necessary for them?

He died in 2005 you massive faggot, if anything Benedict is to blame if we are taking your retarded logic into account.

>The Episcopalians are the worst in America

I'm an Episcopalian in seminary and this is true. All should avoid the Episcopal Church until we drain the swamp.

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why did you give the catholic a kike nose you fucking huguenot cunt

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We don't observe every sacrament, but these are the ones we always do:

>Eucharist/Lord's Supper
>Baptism
>Marriage
>Annointing the Sick

We don't have Confession because muh Universal Priesthood and we dedicate babies. I don't know what Penance/Reconciliation entails.

Baptists confirm/dedicate babies and baptize the spiritually mature.

In my heart I feel like they pushed Ratzinger to abdicate and he is the real pope but secluded from the world without his aproval.

You must not understand cause and effect. John Paul is the same as neocuckservatives. They laid the groundwork for the anti-Christs to come and apostatize the church.

Stop being cucks for liberals.

Dude, your church has been conquered by Satan. Why do you still believe your denomination has a shot? Either get out or find a church that schismed out of the hiearchy.

>He established a physical church on earth
You mean Jesus Christ himself the roman catholic church? I though Jesus had never been to Rome? What do you say to Orthodox Christians who also claim apostolic succession?

All Christians should give "The Institutes of the Christian Religion" by John Calvin a read.
Beveridge translation is the best.

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Jesus DID establish the church on the earth, and the Primacy of Peter is explicit: YOU are PETER, and on THIS ROCK I shall build my Church.

I do not believe the Catholic Church and the Ancient Church are the same thing, but Apostolic Succession can be claimed by every denomination that enforces the Laying of Hands for all clergy.

Praised Christ lads
I will pray for you all

>what?
Some Catholics are, "spirit filled" and others are not. Some believe in the Pope, others do not. You could almost say there are denominational type differences within greater Catholicism.

>can't tell a Roman nose from a Jew nose

the Southern Baptist Convention are a bunch of cock munching faggots, those niggers are just as unreliable as the other major churchianity institutions. you cannot disprove that there have been an unbroken line of churches that all follow in succession down trhrough history that were never connected to the Catholic church. these churches were always GIVEN names and never declared their own names some examples are Novations, Donatists, Waldenses, Albigenses Anabaptist, Monatists, Paulicians, Arnoldists, Henricians and Paterins. even though "The Trail of Blood" did not establish any facts there are plenty of other books that have laid down good arguments that need to be taken seriously. Baptists predated the "Reformers" and never wanted to reform the Catholic church because they didnt come out of that church. Charles Spurgeon believed in Baptist Perpetuity and the Southern Baptist faggots hated him.

Christ is the cornerstone. The foundation. The church is the house. Catholicism is the house on sand.

>Filthy Calvanists

GET OUT OF MY BOARD, FREE WILL DENIERS.

>Babies can go to Hell in the most strict interpretation of Calvanism
>God's love is not great enough to give everyone a chance
>Some people who profess belief in God will still go to Hell

Imagine being this wrong.

>Why do you still believe your denomination has a shot?

I'm not sure. I guess I feel really attached to my home parish. I might switch to ACNA, but I'm not sure. Paul speaks of a faithful remnant in the dark days

I'm a traditional reformed Anglican and I feel like I shouldn't abandon the Church

He only said that because peter confessed that JESUS was the Son of God. Peter is rock, and Peter's confession is the rock the church is built on. The bible clearly says opposite of your statement

Absloute cringe

>Pretending to be a Christian
>Sex metaphors
>Not acting as Jesus would act
>Hating his neighbor

WEW LAD

>Actually thinking we believe Trail of Blood is real
>Actually thinking that mandatory Laying of Hands for every Baptist clergy ever isn't a thing and thus means Apostolic Succession was at some point broken.

Martin Luther didn't want to break off from the Catholic Church either, but his hand was ultimately forced.

The reforms passed during the Counter-Reformation did fix most of the issues he outlined, BTW.

"I don't like Romans 9" the post

I disagree. While John was the Disciple that Jesus Most Loved, Peter was the Rock that Christ built His Church on.

Like the Orthodox, we don't believe one clergyman has a monopoly on the Bride of Christ. We Baptists take "first among equals" and Autocephaly to the most extreme possible in that there is no first among equals, only equals. We also have autonomous churches where the only authority we recognize is that church's deaconate and pastor.

I copied from a prior meme, didn't notice the noses, sorry. Here,
**noses fixed**

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>I disagree. While John was the Disciple that Jesus Most Loved, Peter was the Rock that Christ built His Church on.
That's not an argument.

If your parish has declared itself to be in schism with the hiearchy, then your church has escaped Satan's conquest and is part of the Remnant.

If you want to save your parish, consider tying to enter into power there and declare a break from the Satanic overlords.

As a Baptist, I don't believe the Primacy of Peter is of any power or weight other than the fact that Jesus specifically said that Peter, because of his great faith, would birth the Church on the earth. It's a testament to his devotion even though he denied the Christ three times.

Peter is among the most popular Biblical Disciples because of his flaws and humanity, as well as his repentence and devotion. He began to understand Jesus' Truths before the others.

A History of the Baptists: Traced by Their Vital Principles and Practices, from the Time of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ to the Year 1886 - by Thomas Armitage

Baptist Church Perpetuity, or The Continuous Existence of Baptist Churches From the Apostolic Age to the Present Day Demonstrated by the Bible and by History. Complete and Unabridged. by W. A. Jarrel

The Early English Baptists Vol. 1 and 2 by Benjamin Evans

there are more books like these that no one in the modern discussion has read. It is disgusting to see Catholics try to deny the Baptist history and step all over the Martyrs of my religion.

Anyone who is validly baptized in the name of the Father , Son and Holy Ghost is Christian (even if they are heretics)
That's why Mormons will never be included

>Jesus specifically said that Peter, because of his great faith, would birth the Church on the earth.
Except He literally didnt say that

>christian general
>Its just christcucks shitting on eachother as to who loves god more
Wew lad

Mormons and Catholics both claim Jesus but operate in wildly unbiblical ways. I'm sorry, but I'm going to reject your claim.

Not a subject I'm well read on myself, but basically, the Church teaches that sacraments are necessary for salvation (though an individual doesn't necessarily need every sacrament). The sacraments are Baptism, the Eucharist, Confirmation, Reconciliation, Anointing of the Sick, Holy Orders, and Matrimony. The sacraments were entrusted to the Church by Christ, and I think that's why apostolic succession is necessary for most sacraments. Couldn't tell you why Baptism is a bit different, but from my understanding the Church does recognize baptism from every denomination except Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, and 7th Day Adventists.

The Southern Baptist Convention rejects "Trails of Blood". All mainstream Baptist churches reject "Trails of Blood".

However, we do concur that Baptists, like most denonimations who mandate the Laying of Hands, have an unbroken Apostolic Succession.

The Baptist Church split in 1600 AD, in part, as a reaction to corruption and state dominance in the Church of England.