Neither are good, but only Ron Paul-worshipping lolberts stuck in 2012 still think the latter is better than the former.
Discuss.
Socialism>Capitalism
Joshua Anderson
Alexander Gonzalez
depends on how its implemented
Grayson Cook
The scandinavian model worked perfectly here before (((someone))) thought it would be a good idea to flood us with niggers.
ethnically homogeneous social democracy is the real redpill
David Thompson
Actually, it worked perfectly until center-right government began to slowly dismantle it.
Finland is the ONLY country in Europe right now where the Social Democratic party is still by far the largest in terms of popularity. (besides portugal) Why? They didn't fuck with the social safety net.
Noah Perez
Define what you mean by Socialism.
If you mean Social Democracy I'm gonna kick your fuckin ass
Samuel Barnes
Also Finland is the only European country where the far right populist party hasn't seen any gains and has actually *lost* support over the last couple years. (Besides Portugal)
William Perry
Well, those terms are nebulous. Venezuela operates under "socialism" and Finland under "social democracy," but the Nordics are inarguably more socialist than Venezuela.
Gavin Jenkins
Materialism>Socialism>Capitalism
Free market, but all liquid wealth goes to the government for redistribution every Monday morning. You better spend your money on material goods before the government takes it back. Infinite consumerism = infinite corporate profits = infinite wages = infinite productivity.
David Murphy
No nigger define what you mean by Socialism.
Do you mean Socialism where the workers own the means of production based off Marxist principles or do you mean a Social Democracy where the government does stuff like Free healthcare?
This is an important distinction to make, and you're diluting both definitions.
Thomas Morgan
Capitalism is a stupid economic system, but so is socialism. We need an integralist movement that protects property rights and private businesses, but also isn't a cult of free trade that allows for corrupt people to control all aspects of production. We need more traditional forms of economics that predate the enlightment based ones.
Nathan Wilson
Boy, do I have the ideology for you.
Jack Ward
>based off marxist principles
Lmao, Marx didn't incent socialism dipshit.
Gabriel Martin
invent*
Nolan Robinson
Fascism is an incoherent and contradictory philosophy.
We need Catholic integralist monarchism with distributist characteristics.
Brody Morgan
Why is fascism always the answer for everything the we long for?
Henry Cooper
you cannot have socialism without a national identity.
people are more willing to help others if they are part of "us".
Gavin Richardson
Leo Reyes
He's the most notable and expanded on it the most. I'm guessing you're not an advocate of Saint-Simon's form of Socialism.
So answer the question retard, are you a Socialist in the worker-ownership sense or are you a Social Democrat?
Jeremiah Campbell
Fascism is a wide and varied ideology that doesn't have specific characteristics. It's not contradictory because fascism adapts to the nation. British Fascism is similar to Italian Fasciwm, but its adapted around British Society. In the same way National Socialism was race-based while Italian Fascism was more Civic nationalist.
Evan Gray
Capitalism is responsible for bringing literally billions of people out of poverty, across the world. It is the greatest system for prosperity yet discovered.
Zachary Baker
But he doesn't own it and there are millions of adherents to non-Marxian socialism across the globe so fuck off with your purity-spiraling gate-keeping pilpul, Jew
Ian Butler
Get your hands off my property you fucking red piece of shit.
Julian Sanders
Ah, so what branch of Socialism do you adhere to if not Marxist Socialism?
Jace Nelson
Christian socialism
Chase Reed
>ahem
IT'S NOT REAL CAPITALISM. WE JUST HAVEN'T SEEN TRUE CAPITALISM IMPLEMENTED EFFECTIVELY YET. IT'LL WORK ACCORDING TO MISES, I PROMISE, WE JUST HAVE TO STICK TO THE PRINCIPLES.
Charles Jenkins
this
Tyler Martin
Wrong you fool
Ethnically homogeneous social fascism is the real redpill.
The social programs should not be in any way controlled by those that benefit from them.
Josiah Price
Matthew Garcia
I hate catholics, also get your nigger hands off my property you red piece of shit
Adrian Howard
all fucking commies must fucking hang
Samuel Bennett
Commit suicide
Cooper Davis
Enjoy eternal damnation, sinner
Kayden Morris
National Socialism
Mason Wood
>social democracy works
Top kek of the day
Justin Evans
Yeah including lots of shitskins seeking to eradicate whites. Capitalism promotes immigration.
Oliver Walker
On what basis do you think Christian Socialism is better than Capitalism
Ayden Allen
this works in places where the demographic is homogeneous.
Brandon Gray
Read Augustine
Isaiah Clark
Not enough time before this thread is archived. Give me YOUR arguments as to why Christian Socialism is better than Capitalism.
Noah Lewis
Because it is the system most in line with Catholic social teaching.
Capitalism entails usury, exploitation, and the degradation of social values. All sins.
Andrew Perez
>Capitalism entails usury, exploitation, and the degradation of social values.
Capitalism doesn't stop you living a moral Christian life on the individual level, which is what matters in the end. The idea of a ChristSoc state is idealistic to put it mildly and fucking retarded to put it harshly
Cooper Perez
Ahahaha filthy fucking prot
Jeremiah Lopez
Let's move on then.
Aside from Christian Socialism what form of Socialism were you endorsing when you made the thread?
Cooper Johnson
Jaxson Hernandez
based and christpilled