the EU: >supports free movement of people >supports free movement of capital >supports free movement of goods >supports globalization >neoliberal >unlike Jow Forumstards understands that open borders for the free flow of capital necessitate open borders for the free flow of immigrants >wants to liquidate national and ethnic distincitons in order to prevent conflicts, create an homogenous mass of consumers and for the capital to flow as freely as possible
Jow Forumstards: >the eu is like, totally leftist, brah, it's like the next USSR for real!
Because Jow Forums has the political acumen of a right-wing radio host in small-town America, i.e. anything that isn't white nationalist, small government, laissez-faire capitalism is a communist-marxist-socialist-globalist conspiracy
Christian Cruz
Because I'm just fucking tired of all the "Teehee u Gypsy LOL XD" posts
Brody Hall
>The man of the future will be of mixed race. Today's races and classes will gradually disappear owing to the vanishing of space, time, and prejudice. The Eurasian-Negroid race of the future, similar in its appearance to the Ancient Egyptians, will replace the diversity of peoples with a diversity of individuals. [...]
>Instead of destroying European Jewry, Europe, against its own will, refined and educated this people into a future leader-nation through this artificial selection process. No wonder that this people, that escaped Ghetto-Prison, developed into a spiritual nobility of Europe. Therefore a gracious Providence provided Europe with a new race of nobility by the Grace of Spirit. This happened at the moment when Europe's feudal aristocracy became dilapidated, and thanks to Jewish emancipation.
>appointed corporate rulers shuffling chattel like used cars
Parker Davis
Even if this was true, what does it have to do with anything? If anything this proves my OP correct: >wants to liquidate national and ethnic distincitons in order to prevent conflicts, create an homogenous mass of consumers and for the capital to flow as freely as possible
Justin Allen
cause it is, founding fathers didn't want to live under mommy(lilith) look how nuts she is.
Brody Taylor
It is true, gypsy.
coudenhove-kalergi-society.eu
Brandon Jenkins
(OP)
The EU is left-wing on many of it's policies nowadays, and that's a huge problem for people who care about state sovereignity. So no matter how you put it; if you're not into left-wing politics the EU is very likely not your cup of tea.
Jacob Diaz
They seem to be more about up-wing policies.
Jeremiah Hughes
Eliminating national/ethnic distinctions will not eliminate conflicts. People will always find a reason to divide into groups and fight in tough times, no matter how small their initial differences. Only stopping unsustainable economic/population growth resulting in overextended/fragile logistics and eventual tough times will eliminate conflict.
Believing in economics is a mental illness. How did economists gain so much power?
Isaiah Campbell
However the case, they are the enemy of any sovereign state in my opinion.
>>unlike Jow Forumstards understands that open borders for the free flow of capital necessitate open borders for the free flow of immigrants it would be nice if it was merely immigration within the countries of the EU, but they pressure european countries to take low iq shitskins
Alexander Allen
Let's millions of Muhammed into your land to replace whites and fuck their women living on free money from govt.
Bentley Sanders
Jews will still be Jews aka ruling class of non workers.
Nolan Collins
>wants to liquidate national and ethnic distincitons in order to prevent conflicts, create an homogenous mass of consumers and for the capital to flow as freely as possible another problem with your reasoning. Europe is not like the US, in which every european that went there had to be assimilated into their culture. Europe are several countries, each with a culture and ethnicity that in some cases can be traced back for centuries, even thousands of years. Nations don't exist from a purely economic point of view.
Elijah Cruz
yes,it's
Adrian Ramirez
>left-right false dichotomy yes I forgot all ideologies exist on a simple linear spectrum >implying that all of Jow Forums is for unrestricted capitalism to benefit greedy jew bankers >unlike Jow Forumstards understands that open borders for the free flow of capital necessitate open borders for the free flow of immigrants WRONG
Mason Bell
>Eliminating national/ethnic distinctions will not eliminate conflicts. People will always find a reason to divide into groups and fight in tough times, no matter how small their initial differences. Only stopping unsustainable economic/population growth resulting in overextended/fragile logistics and eventual tough times will eliminate conflict.
That is true but there would be no longer (strong) pre-capitalist identities, like ethnic and national ones. We are already heading towards a future where people self identify entirely based on their material possesion, thus corporations will have more power to sell people consumer/false identities
>Europe and the 3 pillars - Athens, Rome and Jerusalem
Yes, that's the diversity of Europe. But one must also see and acknowledge that Europe is not just a "Christian" world.
Jack Wright
Jow Forums likes to preserve his cultural identity, his religion and his tribe's well-being. he likes capitalism, but not when it involves dissolving everything that makes his existence meaningful. >wants to liquidate national and ethnic distincitons in order to prevent conflicts, create an homogenous mass of consumers and for the capital to flow as freely as possible basically what soviet russia and every cliche communist faction does in order to stop dissenters; mix up the populations and make everyone feel hopeless while the elites fuck them in the ass.
Brandon Gray
>wants to liquidate national and ethnic distincitons in order to prevent conflicts, create an homogenous mass of consumers and for the capital to flow as freely as possible
Don't you see anything wrong with that? Aside from the fucking arrogance of it, people will fight over all sorts of shit. Ethnic/racial identitys shouldn't be wiped out, but nurtured, and common ground be found from that.
You don't just import niggers to wipe out racial groups who arn't playing ball.
Daniel Miller
>supports globalization Lmao thats literally is the key of the left to destroy Europe.
Caleb Harris
because lefties defend the EU. Antifa and lefties show up on anti Brexit protests, they LOVE the EU. They love corruption.
Ian Howard
as if the eu care about anyone other than niggers, gtfo sjw faggot
Welfare is paid for by the taxpayers. Ahmed is poor so any penny he gets via welfare is used immediately to buy products, thus artificially increasing the purchasing power. Welfare is paid for by the taxpayers, so is more convinient to take money from Sven who wanted to invest into his pension fund and give it to Ahmed.
Ethan Ortiz
why else do you support the EU then, if its not about you fuckers being able to steal from all country and drive around in your fucking little vans full of loot.
Austin Stewart
>he likes capitalism, but not when it involves dissolving everything that makes his existence meaningful. But that's the logical outcome of capitalism desu.
Cameron Rivera
Bolshevism is the declaration of war by Jewish-led international subhumans against culture itself. It is not only anti-bourgeois, it is anti-cultural. It means, in the final consequence, the absolute destruction of all economic, social, state, cultural, and civilizing advances made by western civilization for the benefit of a rootless and nomadic international clique of conspirators, who have found their representation in Jewry.
Juan Lewis
the EU is bad faggot
Aiden Campbell
>But that's the logical outcome of capitalism desu. but capitalism.. nice to have somthng to blame, las if the fucking politicians have no blame in this AT ALL. ooh but it was the evil capitalism.. I swear capitalism did it.
I don't. Most people here do because they have this delusions that the EU is gonna fix our country's corruption for some fucking reason.
Gypsies love the EU because unlike us westerners are wealthy, liberal and naive on their scummy nature.
Also, a lot of people, especially youngsters (both low skill and high skill) like the fact that they can go to work in the West for more than twice of what they would have been paid here.
Nicholas Jones
Of course the Romanian enjoys fellating the EU. Where else would he get his gibs?
Hunter Gray
>the logical outcome of evolution is artificial intelligence and infinitely replicating machines humans don't like logical outcomes. and that's a good thing.
But they are a product of the system itself, besides, why the fuck would they care about how their decisions will affect you and your society in the long run? They only care about their money and getting re-elected/appointed.
Ryder Walker
>Where else would he get his gibs? he would start pickpocketing and robberies
Jose Russell
Teehee fuck you gypsy.
Gabriel James
Why is it always the Romanians that are the cucks?
Juan Anderson
in that case most people are retarded EU has never even tried to tackle the issues which caused Brexit, and its been 3 years.
They have developed a system to fast-track the immigration to Europe process, which will cause even more Africans to migrate faster. They fund shitty cultural projects and establishment art with EU tax money. They are the biggest political entity in Europe, and all establishment politicians love it.
I can't think of anything more destructive to Europe anytime in history than the EU. It's simply worse than the decline of the Roman empire.
I consider people who support the EU not only to be traitors to Europe, but to all humans in general.
>not a Leftist conspiracy >literally a protection racket to bully and cajole member states into following the Germ... EU policy guidelines and to punish them if they don't
>But they are a product of the system itself Sure, call it whatever you want if rhetoric helps you justify the whys and hows of political corruption. I don't need such reasons to know their rotten all the way through.
>They only care about their money That's how corruption works, especially globalized, because systems become unmaniageble nobody is in charge of oversight, which is left to ai's trying to maximize the profit by investing on their behalf etc. People are idiots but i refuse to take it for granted that they don't understand they are destroying the world this way. ALL the responsibility MUST be placed on these people and they must pay for what they have done. You can blame the lobbyists and the system but it will only end up as a fucking circlefuck.
If you want to stop the loop hold the fuckers who are supposed to do their job accountable and sever the connection between big business and politics.
Ofc lefties hate that, and its probably too late seeing as how they Fucked us populists over.
>muh racism…. Lefties have as much blame for all this as the corrupt politicians they endorse! The fuckers! Which is why we gather articles etc, they need to fucking pay.
>People are idiots but i refuse to take it for granted that they don't understand they are destroying the world this way. The elites just don't care. If it benefits them in the short-term they would do it, even at the expense of the wider society
>muh racism…. Where did I said anything about "racism", and I do not consider myself lefist, I'm just an anticapitalist third positionist
Asher Jenkins
expect to pay even more in the future you should also expect even more unemployment and Much much less representation and political responsibility which basically means they won't fix any of it because it is not within their interests to do so.
Remember there are people who want this shit, who hate Europe so much that they want to see it abolished once and for all and for all cultures and diversity of Europe (that is European) to subside.
And they are in the European Commission, you see they benefit from the destruction of identity, it is in fact the reason why they destroy it. They dont understand that cultural and national identities take thousands of years to form and stabilize. They are culturally retarded like that, for them its all about trying to create a federal European union. And if people have no strong cultural ties to home countries then that disgusting fetishization of Europe can be achieved. They don't understand that destroying the cultural foundation of Europe literally means destroying all that IS Europe as well. Europe will become a fucking third world continent if they manage to pull this shit off and I doubt their fake socially constructed identity is strong enough to withstand extreme religious movements or fringe political extremist groups. It's going to Tear Europe apart forever.
The Commission are just.. they're idiots. They have NO understanding of history and culture. 0
>supports free movement of people only those that suit their needs >supports free movement of capital no they dont they subsidize like crazy and favor their own companies and snuff out the surrounding ones >supports free movement of goods see above >supports globalization that's a bad thing son >neoliberal again >unlike Jow Forumstards understands that open borders for the free flow of capital necessitate open borders for the free flow of immigrants your logic is worrying >wants to liquidate national and ethnic distincitons in order to prevent conflicts, create an homogenous mass of consumers and for the capital to flow as freely as possible >in order to prevent conflicts In order to control
Juan Reyes
>The elites just don't care In a way, the system is a bit too large to blame "the elites" although they are a huge part of it. My hope is that China will take over all the corporations who have outsourced, and steal them. That would teach those fucking assholes a lesson. I'm more than ready to recognize Chinas right to all corporations operating within the confines of mainland China so that the fucking assholes who outsource understand the seriousness of internationalized politics. They deserve to lose their assets which they stole from us, the people.
But you know who hates that idea.. That's right.. Antifa and the "socialists" Do you understand how "socialist" and "commie" parties always surge in well off places now? It's the biggest scam of the western world.
Bentley Butler
>expect to pay even more in the future you should also expect even more unemployment and Much much less representation and political responsibility which basically means they won't fix any of it because it is not within their interests to do so.
I don't know why are you telling me all of this. I'm against the EU, but for some reason all the posters believe that I'm in favor of it. My OP was inteded to point out that what Jow Forums whines at is not "leftism", is capitalism.
>And they are in the European Commission, you see they benefit from the destruction of identity, it is in fact the reason why they destroy it. They dont understand that cultural and national identities take thousands of years to form and stabilize. They are culturally retarded like that, for them its all about trying to create a federal European union. And if people have no strong cultural ties to home countries then that disgusting fetishization of Europe can be achieved. They don't understand that destroying the cultural foundation of Europe literally means destroying all that IS Europe as well.
Again the people in the EU don't care about none of this. To them nothing is sacred, only money (and I'm not reffering exclusevly to Jews)
> Europe will become a fucking third world continent if they manage to pull this shit off and I doubt their fake socially constructed identity is strong enough to withstand extreme religious movements or fringe political extremist groups. It's going to Tear Europe apart forever.
Nah it will be more like the US, where a rotless multiracial mush with no identity or culture will be managed like economic ods and ends.
But, above all of these, why should I care? My country is compromised demographically speaking and westerners didn't do anything to help us but shout MUH HUMA RIGHTS!!!0!0!! whenever we wanted to get rid of the Gypsies, only to later compare all the Romanians to these inbred monkeys that are spred all across Europe by now.
Lincoln Peterson
>Where did I said anything about "racism" I know but the fastest way to be called a nazi by the establishment and their media is to criticize globalized trade, that's what they vanguard with their fucking lives. That is what they fear the most.
Just trying to make sure bro, your country has always been massively pro EU at least on /pol
You could be playing devils advocate.
Dominic Rodriguez
The real red pill is that (((EU))) only exists to make rich people richer and maximize their profits. The only line of attack against the EU is a socialist one. Liberals and Libertarians attacking the EU are brainlets who only operate on PewDiePie memes, "OHHH GUYZZZ EU BANNED MEMES REEE". They should gas themselves.
Landon James
>Nah it will be more like the US hehe no USA took years to form and the reason it worked so well was the expectation that it was a cultural melding pot. People here in Europe have well-established cultures worthy of preservation and we have no such will. We dont want to let go of that to embrace some fake socially constructed Worthless bureaucracy culture. Not that it worked particularly well in the USA either, just by looking at how much minorities bitch about USA being oppressive towards them. It's a prime example of how multiculturalism doesnt work. Same goes for Europe, EU demands memebership satetes adhere to refugee quotas and open borders, problem is diversity fosters racism and its not just about identity, because the cultural identity is entangled in our way of thinking and it takes generations to change that if that is the intention of the EU commission, which it almost certainly has to be to prevent more racism. The differences in way of thinking and morals is the cause of racism and the expectation that the working class should somehow be morally superior to the fucking elites ruling Europe and never swear or talk down to these people is an unpresented level of stupidity to even imagine. What incentive do people have to not be assholes to refugees, especially the working class whose jobs these people threaten.
EU doesn't care about problems like these, they just want the ability to keep that corruption and trade shit going for a few more years no matter the toll it will take on Europe. Nobody should accept it.
Landon Ortiz
Yeah,for the reasons I've previously stated
Matthew Morgan
>USA worked well from a European point of view, and not well in terms of slavery and minorities.
Jeremiah Ross
It's evil it all started by a movements first created by an austrian-japanese in the 30s that had fanatical and progressist beliefs over diversity and ethnicity, E.U's plan is to actually create a world where the future european will be closer to what ancient Egypt looked like where personality would matter more than identity and culture with the Jews as the nobility ruling at the head of that same continent. Merkel's Kalergi plan is on the go and the great replacement has already started if we don't fight back the Europe as we know it today will be gone, drastic changes has already occured in the West for instance. You can look at Paris it only needed 1 decade to changes the shape of what was once the enlighted city. The EU and its members are so fanatical they called streets and places under his name
Jaxon Watson
I know and that Is the reason why I hate slavs, unironically. And i'm sorry for it I doubt it will ever change, but that is the eventual outcome of globalization. I shut up about it of course, but its no like I would want those workers to be here even if my life was in peril, they are a destructive foreign force bringing down wages and our way of life and they have to go. Same goes for Africans, middle easterners etc. EU migration is just slightly better than migration from outside the EU.
I want all people in charge of corporations who have benefited on EU migration and foreign migration brought before a court and sentenced for high-treason. But the first step to achieve this is by removing the power the EU has over international politics, it has to go.
This is exactly why the EU is a failure. Rather than exist as an economic entity and partnership with fraternal bonds between nations it seeks to destroy those nations, force them under their boot, and liquidiate their entire culture in replacement for mass materialist one that will be run by a central organisation. No thank you.
Adrian Edwards
>why I hate slavs, unironically Fucking kike.
Leo Brown
>I would want those workers to be here even if my life was in peril, they are a destructive foreign force bringing down wages and our way of life and they have to go. Same goes for Africans, middle easterners etc. EU migration is just slightly better than migration from outside the EU.
Oh trust me I would want them back to my country as well (not the Gypsies of course, you can keep those), we have a lot to fix
But unfortunately I'm aware of what it would happen if you people had your nationalis uprisings: Westerners would keep all the high skilled high IQ Romanians and only send back the Gypsies and other swarthy fucks, so my country would get the short end of the stick as always
Dylan Young
> believing the USA was a "melting pot" perhaps you could share some more of your wisdom... like maybe your thoughts on the constitutional authority of the gay little plaque under the statue of liberty that forces the US to take in every dirty brown migrant in the world, or maybe the part of our constitution that details the "wall between church and state". the USA has a singular national culture, which is largely british and protestant in nature, plus we have some persistent "subculktures" that hang off us like carbuncles, such as nigger "culture", "latin"( it is not in any way latin, it is mexican) "culture", and the rabid and self-destructive leftism sent to us by plague carriers from europe in the 19th century.
Angel Hernandez
sorry bro but if you had your life destroyed by eu immigration you would feel the same way, its not too late tho, expect it to happen in the future. That being said in 10% slav
>Gypsies should be sent back to india
>you people had your nationalis uprisings people are too stupid, its not going to happen
USA worked, what else needs to be said, it was born out of people who knew they would have to work together, EU is born out of the destruction of Europe. Its different. USA gave liberties and freedom to its citizens, EU restricts them.
What's ironic is that muricans don't understand that they have the same shit. They don't get that the EU is uniting European states just like the USA is a union of American states. If they weren't such hypocrites they would dissolve the union and each state would work for themselves.
