Are notropics for real or a farce?

my family member was looking into ones that help with memory and focus, are any of these for real or just trendy cash grabs

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What is on the market right now doesn't work or very minimal and side effects are bad. Don't ever go beyond coffee and if you can cut that too.

You might as well make your own. They do work but they turn you into an autist for like 8 hours. They remind me of Ritalin

Yup. Piracetam is currently being used to treat Alzheimer’s patients because it helps heal the substantia negra, which is a part of the hippocampus related to releasing dopamine in relation to memories (helps “solidify” memories by associating them with emotion).

Also I personally took piracetam years ago in uni to crank for exams and to fix my hangovers. Worked like a charm for both. Tastes like absolute shit but is worth it.

Mostly fake. Most of all the effects are minimal or require unintended side effect dosages for moderate results. Might work for you but, there's some horror stories especially if you get anything from China.

Waste of money.

Blah. Typical scaremongering. I took that shit by the spoonfull, went waaay over the recommended dosage and never had any weird side effects. Only clarity of mind.

Yeah. They're real, but you're not gonna find any of them like NZT-48. Honestly, just take Omega-3 supplements

I agree on not getting random Chinese shit tho.

Stick to this brand here (Primaforce).

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Piracetam just makes me foggy. I've tried taking it with and without choline and playing with different doses. I never got any kind of cognitive enhancement from it, just the opposite. I'm interested in trying fasoracetam for anxiety though. It sounds like it pairs well with phenibut.

WHATS WRONG WITH COFFEE

Imagine being so insecure.

I wouldn’t take any other drug if I’m trying to notice the effect of one drug. That said, common misconception with piracetam is that it’s like adderall or Ritalin that gives you an immediate and noticeable “kick”. I wouldn’t describe it like that. I would describe it more like a supplement that you have to take routinely in order to notice more and more of its effects. Also the effect itself is subtle and noticeable if you are studying or hungover (or trying to avoid hangovers) mostly. It’s not something that gets you “high” per se.

The only scientifically proven nootropics are drugs in the amphetamine group, which are tightly regulated. You'd have to pay a shrink to diagnose you with ADD in order to get your hands on some.

Green tea is literally all you need in terms of performance enhancement. You really don't even need performance enhancement though.

modafinil

Amphetamines aren’t nootropics. Especially when you compare their neurotoxicity (amphetamines are waaaay worse for you).

The problem with amphetamines is they make you HYPER FOCUSED...but you lack control over what that focus is. I was prescribed dextroamphetamine before, and when I was on it, all I wanted to do was download and categorize HD porn. By the time I finally decided to go off it, I had 9TB of meticulously organized pornography. Fucking retarded.

Look for Coluracetam, Phenylpiracetam, N-Methylliberine

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They have a measurable effect improving several metrics of cognitive ability. That is the definition of a nootropic. I mean you shouldn't use it as supplement like most of the homeopathic shit that advertise itself as nootropics, but it is a nootropic none the less.

No amount of drugs will ever improve your lack of motivation to do course work, user. That's the real struggle.

>"DUDE. Just take these unbranded research chemicals from China to become a genius! I snorted this unknown powder and now I'm the smartest guy in the world!"

If they worked and worked well, they'd be illegal or regulated.

More than likely you're going to end up on Liveleak running around naked in public after you peeled your face off with a pair of nailclippers.

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No, the nootropic is defined as a memory enhancing supplement with a near 0 neurotoxicity.

The later definition of “cognitive enhancer” is pure marketing drivel that was done precisely to confuse it with amphetamines.

On modafinil now... I couldn’t believe how much it did. Only downside is you have to have off days in between to not develop tolerance

Bacopa tends to make you significantly more chill, focused and less anxious. You can buy it without a prescription in practically all countries.

Trendy cash grabs. You might as well enlist in the sea org. Drugs are drugs... If you want to change the name of "medicine" to "nootropics" I think your just overthinking things.

I've started doing some research.
Start with sites that list the names that have some benefits.
Then search (name of chemical, nutrient or herb) nootropics
And find some actual studies
Print that shit off and come to your own conclusions.
So far
ginkgo biloba seems to have memory enhancing properties and possible Anti Alsiehmers properties
Crude garlic extract same as above
Magnesium similar to above
Boron increases testosterone
Then there are a whole lot that that have anti anxiety properties which also helps brain function.
Stick to things that are more herbal slash micro nutrients as these things have been tested for ages and you can mess around with higher dosages.
Also search expressive writing memory there are studies that link students increasing memory by doing expressive writing and also decreased anxiety from writing positive things about what they want in the future

Modafinil did way more for my depression than ssri mainly cos it got me off my arse getting shit done.

cam.ac.uk/research/news/modafinil-a-drug-typically-used-to-treat-sleep-disorders-reduces-depressions-severity-when-taken

Tolerance builds quickly tho.

nicotine is the only effective nootropic

if its legal and over the counter =» useless/mostly a placebo