Half of federal assistance progerms now go to the "middle class"

>Nearly half of federal assistance programs, like "food stamps" and Medicaid, now go to the middle class

How the hell do we fix capitalism Jow Forums? If the US can't even do capitalism right, who the hell can?

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just gas the jews

Its that simple

>implying it isn't because the middle class has been dwindling in numbers for decades and now actually encompasses a good number of impoverished people.
This site is so awful at arguing logical points.
Also if you think above statement is false you were raised upper middle class or higher.

>the middle class has been dwindling in numbers for decades and now actually encompasses a good number of impoverished people.
Ok so how do we stop/reverse this. Why would capitalism do this to us? I feel betrayed.

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I don't really care. As long as Jeff Bezos can become a trillionaire I can die happy. This would be the biggest fuck you to all the shitty poor libtards.

Because capitalism is an imperfect system which is our best choice when weighed against the alternatives.
The number of people that have been raised out of poverty due to its practice vastly outnumber its victims.
I argue for restoring personal liberties and individual rights.
Like any system though once it's been running long enough it needs a solid shake up to keep mega corporations from forming quasi-monopolies.
I don't disagree with the flaws you point out, I disagree with the idea that the best way to fix them is to uproot and install a new methodology and ideology.

> Because capitalism is an imperfect system which is our best choice when weighed against the alternatives.

It's not.

>The number of people that have been raised out of poverty due to its practice vastly outnumber its victims.

It doesn't.

Bullshit. I've looked into the actual figures as reported by the dep of welfare and it's overwhelmingly going to shitskins. Blacks alone consume almost half, at 10% of the population. Spics consume like 40%. Whites get the leftovers, and we pay something like 80% of all the money that goes into the system.
It's fucking gay and makes me want to kill a nigger.

Demographic transformation is causing this problem.

fuck off cryptocommunist. go back to leftypol.

Capitalism is literally genocide and slavery and it kills 10s of millions each year.
The golden billion (aka the core of capitalism) lives on the back of the impoverished 6+ billion.

> La la la ur wrong
Great points, mate. The problem is shitty people, any stupid system work when there are few crappy persons and all of thrm collapse when there are too many human poops.

Please actually argue my points. I really hate how I can never have an honest meeting of minds with your ilk.

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Please source your claim.

>a bunch of socialist policies
>capitalism

Wowzers

>Half of federal assistance progerms now go to the "middle class"

100% of the government assistance programs money goes to the jews.

GAS THE FUCKING JEWS!!

Yeah, there we go.

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Capitalism doesnt work when you liquidate local industry with predatory regulations export the industrial base overseas because your politicians are corrupt.

So it wasn't real capitalism? Why did capitalism seemingly transition into socialism and how do we stop this?
Hmm, that doesn't seem like a very good system.

middle class votes for more shitskins which destroys the economy they are the problem and reaping the whirlwind same thing in western europe it is their own fault

"middle class" has data points to define it. it's not something you're born with, like being a snow nigger or taco connoisseur. class mobility is possible no matter how it's defined

anyways what you're looking for is reddit.com

>The "study" done by the globalist-capitalist think tank org
>Expecting it to be anything but "capitalism has pulled billions out of poverty!"

Yeah, it's been debunked many times before. The numbers have been "adjusted" to fit the conclusion, just like any other "study" done by similar orgs.

They either play with the dollar amount or completely alter the data. Besides, the dollar amount doesn't tell us anything about the actual living conditions and quality of life.

Capitalism is free trade. Your freedom to trade your labour for profit in however you see fit. Come up with a superior system offering similar personal freedom over your own life and your own destiny, and I'll support it. All you have as an alternative is a totalitarian nightmare wherein somebody else runs my life for me.

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That's literally what capitalism is all about. Profits above all else.

>Capitalism is free trade

No, it's fucking not.

So what are those data points.
You are using ad hominem.
I was in the lower end of the middle class growing up and my parents took out credit cards for everything to keep up a standard of living they could not afford. Since I've been 15 I've been upper lower class and since high school have worked service jobs as well as manual labor. I've only worked in the blue collar field so I particularly hate it when silver spoon kiddies like to push socialism.

Where should I go to find this data?

Still haven't posted a single source of your own my dude.
I won't shoot down the source of your info if the math and numbers all come out millhouse.
If you could explain exactly how the graph I posted actually deviated from a logical interpretation I would love to see the flaws in methodology. The beauty of the studies I sourced is that they have all documents associated free to access and double check.

Yes, it fucking is. That's everything about it that matters anyway. I don't give a fuck that some people have billions of dollars and live like gods and others live in the dirt. I only care that I am free to leverage my labour to my own benefit however I see fit within the confines of the law. If you can't offer personal economic freedom, you may as well be offering slavery.

An idiot made this pic. Well.hes commie

By that logic, all the deaths in Africa while the USSR was in power is communism's fault.

Half the reason those death numbers are so big is because capitalism has improved efficiency enough that we were able to send a ton of foreign aid to Africa. Only the the population exploded and it wasn't enough anymore.

>Yes, it fucking is.

Not it's not.

>I hate the middle class and I want to tax them

Go suck NATO/US's cock and swallow.

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FPBP

>all the deaths in Africa while the USSR was in power is communism's fault.


No country in Africa was ever communist.

>gov't incapable of understanding LRAS,SRAS,AD graph you learn in high school econ
>businesses are bad!

>Republicans take your money and keep it.
>Democrats take your money and give it to the ethnic family the government forcibly moved into your neighborhood that steals your shit. But you can also use the schools and hospitals filled with Somalians molesting your daughter so its ok.
I think I'm beginning to understand why white americans vote republican.

>How do we fix capitalism when its paying for all of these socialism
Gee, retard, tell me

>it’s a government has gone too far episode
I hate this marathon

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The pic is implying that because America has the means to give out a lot of food and vaccines for free, that anyone who dies in spite of that is their fault.

A truly compelling argument.

Raise taxes on the wealthy. They pay less as a % than I do for fuck's sake.

There is no fucking way ANYBODY in my white middle class neighborhood gets food stamps. NONE.

The wealthy are also paying like 70% of the total taxes

The pic is not implying anything about America. The pic is showing how the global capitalist regime is killing millions of people because it's not profitable to keep them alive.

Africa = niggers.

If you don't even know what capitalism is, there is nothing to discuss here.

>boomers get old
>suck up all the resources on their way out
Yeah fuck capitalism

>capitalism is the reason
>the welfare state, regulations, and taxes higher than any other point in American history (minus minor trump effects)
Really uh, make you think

Keep importing immigrants. It is the cure.

how can you be considered middle class if you qualify for assistance programs?

That statistic doesn't include payroll taxes, which disappear once you start making six figures and are about half of all federal revenue.

Read the OP though, middle class has to rely on welfare now. If you remove welfare the middle class will collapse immediately.

>when commie countries have starvation on top of genocides

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>Someone is dying
>I am not obligated to save them
>I do not save them
>"YOU KILLED HIM!"
people actually think like this?

What the hell? I'm poor as fuck where are my motherfucking food stamps? Oh I'm white and male?

Fuck you kikes and single women whores.

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> Capitalism is an economic system based on the freedom of private ownership of the means of production and their operation for profit.

To summarize, free trade. I can contract to trade my labour for profit at a rate I and the other party agree to. I can choose what kind of labour I perform. You may invent your own definition but unless you tell the rest of us, it's just your headcannon.

Dep of welfare.
I just said it

Then explain to me how China's middle class is growing exponentially? Probably because you think China isn't capitalistic.

Yeah and why is the middle class dying

Either it's some nebulous sense of capitalist progression, or it's the actual things that have been implemented for the last 100 years, none of which are moving us toward more free markets

Most absolutely.

You commies are so fucking strange. Do you think normal people walk around with captilism as their only thought or conversation topic? They ate literally both sides of the Jewish coin anyway. This is a NatSoc board. NatSoc is basically communism for Chad's anyways.

how do you collect food stamps and still mistakenly believe youre middle class?

>what was communist backed angola

youre too stupid to be born here you have to go back

We rig the definition of poverty so that it's lower than a large bulk of our population, so that people don't feel bad that average wages haven't moved since the mid 70s.

Are corporations (and their top of the pyramid beneficiaries)the problem? They are a minority of institutions yet hold the majority of the global wealth. It's no longer capitalism in any real sense of the word, the average person will never be able to escape the debt-trap and "rise above their station" - the system is rigged against them.

In the past, the economy was more flexible - capital flowed through various family-run businesses which allowed communities to grow. Now, money is hoovered up by a minority of companies and is seldom reinjected back into the wider economy - no investment in workers, no investment in society, no "snakes and ladders" of small-time capitalism - just one big global economic pyramid with the money flowing to the top presided over by "the elite".

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Why do you think that jewish capitalists exploit the working class more than white capitalists?

>I don't really care. As long as Jeff Bezos can become a trillionaire I can die happy. This would be the biggest fuck you to all the shitty poor libtards.
The liberals would be mad if the owner of the Washington Post became a trillionaire?

Maybe the stamps are the reason they are middle class

FPBP

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Why do froathing at the mouth socialists tell white working men to hate capitalism, when the Democrats want to genocide white hetro Christian families?

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highly underrated post

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>liquidate local industry with predatory regulations
Regulations aren't predatory for it's own sake. Trying to price externalities back into the market is how you reduce environmental decay. There would be more oil and coal jobs if we just let smokestacks pop up everywhere, but our quality of life would be shit. Also, politicians allow for jobs to be exported, but it's the capitalists who actually move them overseas. NAFTA was a mistake that the boomers made to make goods cheaper in the short term for their own consumption.

I would say the same thing, its primarily "corporate capitalism" that is the large issue with todays world.

In the old times you actually felt like you were contributing to society, were as today working some corporate McWage slave job you don't produce anything of worth imo.

Some places still exist that are like that imo, but everyday it's becoming less and less prevalent. Cities being largely responsible for the corporate capitalism of today.

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This image is gay and you should feel gay

Marxism-Leninism also raised more people out of poverty than it killed.

Batman straight up manslaughtered Liam Neeson, that was BS, Batman wouldn't do that

They're more evil in every other scenario, why wouldn't they be in this one

>nigger shitty "music" meme

Disregarded the entire thread. Go back to plibbit.

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This is a graph that convinces almost no one, also, why would you assume that capitalism caused this? The Communist Party of China is responsible for a ton of that green.

Stop sucking globalists dick first of all.

'Middle class' when it was America selling things to Americans who made things for America is vastly different than a globalized country which suddenly invited the entire third world to compete.
The 'middle class' now is middle class when say Mexico is included and Cambodia, and Vietnam.
This was obvious to anyone. You invite in a bunch of poor shitskins, the average quality of life is going to fall and the median is going to be lower.

Because the majority of people are immoral. The solution is for the people who are moral (or not so immoral) to kill those who are immoral.

The solution to 55% of Americans being on welfare is to put everyone on welfare, comrade!

How can you fucks whine about getting free money?

See

Big state communism's inherent logic is that the state is at fault for any starvation, because the state owns the means to feed and heal the masses. Capitalism's inherent logic is "fuck you I got mine."

The only way to compare the two systems is this one: which system allocates resources more effectively? Either it's a good way to allocate goods or it's not.

If you value absolute freedom, then communism isn't for you because giving up some of your choice to the state is an obvious facet. In Africa, people are free to choose which ditch to die in.

People ITT are calling out "crony capitalism" and saying that the wealthy have ruined the system for the rest of us. But how? The reality is that economic power is the secret ingredient to obtaining political and cultural power under capitalism. The wealthy can purchase political authority like a commodity by buying off elected officials who work for their interests, and they sit on committees of media and universities who dedicate their resources to driving public opinion in their favour. If you support the state of capitalism that existed previously to the current state of capitalism, it's important to recognize that the failure of that system to maintain its definition of freedom is not a mistake or an accident, but the intentional actions of wealthy people doing whatever they can to become wealthier. All criticisms of capitalism are deflected and blamed on capitalism's collapse into corporatism, cronyism etc. Is capitalism therefore a system that only "works on paper", and "has never been tried"?

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Capitalism would have sorted itself if we still had huge wars. It's actually mass tragedy that equalizes incomes. Start a communist revolution and the resulting death and totalitarianism will bleed the wealth from the upper classes. It's the logical result though if income inequality gets to that point. People don't like having far less than another and their hatred begins to manifest into action.

>headcannon
oh god a tumblr libertarian

Are you saying that you don't have that freedom now?

FPBP

>NatSoc is basically communism for Chad's anyways.
If your political program is "We can have a fair tax bracket and a robust social safety net only after we get rid of minorities" then you don't have a real political program because your Step 1 is an absurd impossible notion that people want to murder you for.

How do you tell who is immoral. Those psychopaths can be very manipulative and sneaky especially when threatened. You can restore the system but those same people will crawl out of the floorboards and do the same that they've done before.
Well obviously that's not good. If most of your populace is working and most of them have to rely on outside assistance, something isn't working.
Just to play devil's advocate. I want to get this thread back on track on the problem with capitalism. But first of all, "big state communism" is a contradiction. There have been communists societies with big states, something with small states, and some with none at all. Also, the state doesn't feed or heal anyone in the same way they don't build roads or bridges. The state just organizes (and this is the big key) labor just like a capitalist organizes labor with capital.
>Capitalism's inherent logic is "fuck you I got mine."
Not really, maybe if we all lived in the woods and we bartered. But under capitalism, we are all reliant as workers for food, shelter, and healthcare from what our masters give us.
>If you value absolute freedom, then communism isn't for you because giving up some of your choice to the state is an obvious facet.
This is a contradiction. Communism means workplace freedom. Capitalism means workplace tyranny.

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Two things:
1. Monopolies are the logical end result of running capitalism the way we've run it, combined with technology/automation. That doesn't mean it's not capitalism.
2. Being a "free trade" purist doesn't help you out of this trap. You have to trust-bust and regulate.

under communism they would all use federal assistance programs. whats the point?