CONSTANT GROWTH

If while people aren't having babies
and capitalism requires constant growth
why do you think "the elite" are championing ill-educated breeders as the answer to the world's woes?
You don't hate niggers.
You hate capitalism.
>in b4 I HATE BOTH

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I have stated this many times on Jow Forums and no one ever replies. The real reason why Europe and the US are mass importing shitskins is the birthrate problem. SInce we live in welfare states the working population must always be bigger than the rnon-working population or the economy and by extinction the government collapses. You can't have low birthrates with capitalism. Low birthrates and capitalism are completely incompatible.

You can have birthrates and capitalism. Magic money and debt driven central banking systems require infinite growth. The 2 are not the same. Capitalism is the natural state of human existence. Free money is a ponzi scheme created by bankers trying to consolidate all the wealth.

We're talking here about the capitalism as it exists now, not the magic that's-not-really-capitalism there-has-never-been-a-communist-state stuff of academia.

disagree, the importation of other people is a natural response to growth. as temporary labor demands rise, to combat labor prices visas and citizenship is given to meet those needs. as it decrease visas are revoked and boarders close. the reason for low birth rates is overworking the population and poor labor price control, it incentivizes apathy. if you increase leisure and standard of living it will increase the birth rate.

Capitalism = Me doing work and selling you the products of my labor in a mutually agreed upon transaction.

Central Banking = No one does any work yet money appears out of thin air with no value attached to it. Interest is levied on top of the money creating a debt that can never be payed except by printing more money with more interest that can never be paid.

Good thread Mr. Snowden.

The only way to get white people to have more children in the west is to curtail women's rights, by going back to socially enforced monogamy, and pushing for earlier marriage while making divorce much harder. White people, and other high IQ people, tend to not have kids if they can't support them and are living alone, while low IQ non-whites don't care about shitting out a ton of kids they can't afford. On top of that capitalism has been pushing women to enter the workforce to double the supply of labor and drive down wages, then ride the cock carousal until she's in her thirties wasting money on frivolous things, then marry a beta and divorce him so the divorce industry can take their cut, and then have more people living single, meaning two apartments, two cars, two fridges, two of everything, instead of one married household.

They think they can just plug low IQ non-whites into our system and it will run smoothly, because they don't want to undo what they've done to the west for the last 100 years.

high res or fuck off faggot OP

They don't give a fuck if it runs smoothly or not; quite the opposite. Remember 0% car loans after 9/11? Personal and mass misery fuels the sale of iPhones. win/win.

'They' whoever the fuck they are, don't actually have a grand plan. What you see are merely successive can kicking measures from people with no real idea what to do about these forthcoming problems.

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Okay. What is money? If money is labour, goods and services then what happens to the supply of money as the supply of goods and services goes up.
I'll break it down more simply. If you take the working population of the US and times it by the amount of hours they work, you come up with a number. Let's say 1.1 trillion working hours a year. And let's say back in 1998 that was only 1 trillion working hours a year. What should happen to the monetary supply?

none of it exists, its just a simulation, fuck i need more cannabis. hurry up OCS

>capitalism requires constant growth
straight out your ass
capitalism works with fast or slow growth, because growth is a consequence, not a prerequisite
learn to bait, faggot
this, and has nothing to do with capitalism: it's the social security ponzi scheme

i fucking love Russian threads

this user gets it

we do live in a Welfare state, but the working pop doesn't have to be bigger than the non-working, thanks to fractional reserve banking system, which uses debt, leverage and other derivative nonsense to generate free money out of thin air. so what you said is factually incorrect, because we are already living in a situation where national debt is several times in excess of our actual production, whether you want to look at gdp or gnp. even if 100% of american adults worked, we would not be able to pay off the current debt.

in reply to OP, he is talking about capitalism as it is practiced right now, and that system is incredibly complex because of the use of debt instruments. capital requires constant growth, but that doesn't necessarily require constant growth via work by employees and entrepreneurs.

the system as it runs right now can continue with constant growth if it imports breeders to become the new welfare recipients, who then go out and use their free money and free food stamps to buy food, which helps sustain the real productive industries domestically and internationally. in the US we have something called EBT cards, which allows nigs to buy food. also food stamps. when nigs use these free-money instruments to buy food, that money goes back into the system to help sustain packaged food factories. when someone on welfare gets free gov't benefits in direct deposit cash, and they go buy some cheap chinese made shit, that profit goes towards the retailer which helps maintain that retailer's "profit" in number terms.

its all a numbers game. the Elites are importing niggers and muslims just to provide fake COVER for their constant increase of debt and free money/welfare. capitalism as it exists right now in Western countries is dependent on consumer spending as well as spending by welfare recipients. of course, some small % of immigrants will end up working.

>Growth, not a prerequisite

It's absolutely required in modern capitalism as it exists today.

there is nothing to do, everything will simply continue the way it always has. fear is driving the dull witted to many ridiculous conclusions.

>It's absolutely required in modern capitalism as it exists today.
absolutely you have no clue of what you're talking about
go to the dictionary and read what capitalism is
then never come back

Growth is absolutely fundamental to capitalism as it stands. What is the point of talking about 'pre' anything in a system with no big bang. We're not going to stop and restart the system so we can have preconditions. You are talking pseudo-intellectual horse shit.

>machinery

Judeo-capitalism is also the problem.

>You are talking pseudo-intellectual horse shit.
>hey guys I'm going to cynically mix two concepts that have little to do, and see if it flies
this is you

>halfway through highschool business studies
>has a purely theoretical 16year old view of the world.
This is you

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Truth!

Look; at this point it's either mass importation of the world's least productive and hope they become productive and americanized, OR we enforce traditional marriage and child bearing on people.

Which do think our retarded rulers deemed easier?

The Elites champion it because they are deluded on the situation at hand. They think we're still going towards a '90s-esque Global Community, wherein all differences can or should melt away to a cafe au lait future.

They are also from a culture that will not allow them to take more drastic actions. Go back 60 odd years back, and you had Eisenhower hurling Mexicans back across the border. 70-80, the elites supporting immigration restrictions and eugenics. Capitalist and otherwise. But such 'racism' is simply not allowed in the Post WWII moral and political order. Will be rejected by the cultural gatekeepers.

Does concerns over birth rates and their impact on growth factor into things? To some degree, yes, especially in Europe. Is it the main cause, via malevolent, greedy capitalists furthering their agenda? No. It is in many ways akin to a rationalization...

How productive are migrants to the economy? How many Syrians and Somalians will be able to replace Hans and Jurgen at the BMW plant? Will be able to buy new BMWs and the furnishings of a consumerist European needed to sustain spending a growth? How many of them will be made economically redundant by advancing technology? How many will meaningfully contribute to the taxes of the country, compared to the burden they'd impose on it? How can the political leaders of the Native stock feel so certain that their asses will remain in power when faced by a browner voting public? How many more will be needed to fill the void? And will that filled void yield more than it gives?

One could chock up the inability of European leaders to comprehend this to naivete, a before the migrant crisis. In the present, though, it is a mix of cowardice, naive optimism, ignorance and self-hatred. Greed being a lesser motivation, if it is in the hearts of many.

Economic fags that do nothing but touch computers and never build or change anything in the world by their of hands and skill...sales,advertising,banking,media....die in a fucking fire....capitalism is fine without central banking kikes fucking both the western and the third world

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If by problem you mean to keep more tax payers entering into the ponzi scheme that is social security then yeah.

here, the simple version
simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism
for your kind

Nice feet

>and capitalism requires constant growth

Wroooong.
Capitalism just beans, you can keep what you workworked for.

> inb4 tfw you realize, there is no real capitalism anywhere, and the level of shitholeness directly correlates with the degree of absence of capitalism.

Mind -> blown

Explain it to me with your mighty 16 year old brain, without scanning through your highschool textbooks. Why are you even using the term prerequisite. What are the implications of a zero growth system?

You're a 'USSR wasn't real communism' dolt

While growing populations do help in economic growth, the economy can grow without it.

A greater problem also is the Camp of the Saints esque mentality in a burgeoning Third World. The Developing World has a shit-ton of people, and its population seeks to diffuse into the ostensible lands of milk and honey of the west. Bolstered, in part, by the leaders of the country seeking wealth from remissions...

The West has enjoyed peace and prosperity, but has grown weak, fat, and self-destructive from it. In our guilt, we came to fuel the very problems that plague us. Shit-tons of food fueling a the birth of shit-ton of nigs who will see us as a ripe and ready target. And a swath of young, military aged youths in over-populated, European-developed Arab Countries seeking to bring sword and seed to the infidels...

Sauce?
Tried to reverse image search but only got garbage.

Social security was set up to be dependent on ever-increasing populations.

Time is money.

A finite amount of seconds in your life you must spend wisely. You can spend hours making things every day to sell to people for money. They are reimbursing you for your work, but ultimately for your time.

Currently, money is debt. This is usury and it is jewish.

capitalism as it exists now in my country?

Yeah, you're right. I pretty much hate that.

Allow me to give Babby's 101 introduction to capitalism.
There are three major forms of production: Labor, Capital and Technology.
If you maintain labor inputs, while increasing capital and technology, you can still grow an economy.
when the economy grows because of technological or capital advances, productivity, i.e. how much the individual worker does, increases. When you increase labor inputs, you can increase production but you are not actually increasing productivity.
For this reason, importing shitskins to do your jobs is not a viable long-term solution, as land and other resources are finite. It is better to rely on economic growth through improvements made to capital and technology. cue the industrial revolution. It is also possible to have a capitalist society that is focused more on sustainability than endless growth.

Prerequisite is a synonym of required.

If
>capitalism requires constant growth
And
>It's absolutely required in modern capitalism as it exists today.
Then you're saying growth is a prerequisite for capitalism.

He's saying *constant* growth is NOT a prerequisite/required for capitalism. You're a bong who apparently doesn't understand English. Must be a shitskin immigrant.

Are you fucking retarded?

Nice.
We should encourage more immigration, more Africans, more pakis.
We can crash the system with and by its own stupidity.

"We demand more immigrants here."
is our new rallying call

Hey op if a faggot, just to clarify the need for constant unsustainable growth is a product of usury and compound interest aka debt based currency. One of the jew's oldest tools.

If there are two people in the world, you and a jew, and there are 10 shekels in the world.If you borrow all 10 but promise to pay back 12 for interest. wat do?

p.s the jew runs the federal reserve and only has the right to print shekels.

>Prerequisite is a synonym of required.

No it means, 'required as a prior condition'. 'Requisite' means 'Required'.

Please for fuck sake, ignore the ebonics and by an English dictionary printed in England.

and please pick up on my spelling mistake.

>If there are two people in the world, you and a jew, and there are 10 shekels in the world.If you borrow all 10 but promise to pay back 12 for interest. wat do?
Fiat currency and fractional reserve banking are perhaps the worst of the Jewish tricks.

advance in productivity has already solved this, you are falling for a meme

Please for fuck sake, ignore the ebonics and buy an English dictionary printed in England. You clearly don't know the meaning of the words you use.

this, how is it so hard to grasp

Holy shit, you're kidding right now right?

That you don't know the difference between prerequisite & requisite? No, i'm not. Please feel free to demonstrate a total lack of intelligence with your buddy here. A yank shitting up another thread, who'd'a'thunk.

Im out.

That's interesting. Is there more to read about that theory ? For all I know welfare hurts the state and my country have been trying to reduce it

Name?

>SPBP

>ignore the ebonics and buy an English dictionary printed in England
Here you go dumbass, a quick google search to Oxford dictionary. Now fuck off Bong.

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