I did LSD a lot. I think is saver than weed

nah he's right. i had a friend lose his mind after doing a bunch of drugs including lsd and he didnt even do them that often. started thinking he had a bomb inside him, he's never been the same since and was on different meds etc for a long time.
another guy i know took lsd a few times loved it on his 4th time had a bad trip and jumped off a roof.
theres a reason our minds are confined into experiencing a few things at a time. theres no telling if you have the resilience for these types of drugs, it's just not worth the risk.
stick to alcohol and natural high-CBD, low-THC weed since that strong shit can give you phychosis too

It doesn't matter how much "metal fortitude" you have. Anyone is susceptible

Dude don't spread bullshit like this.

So you are saying that you are a weak minded nigger cock lover?

Tbh alcohol kills brain cells and weed can awaken schizophrenia and bipolar disorder so just being sober is good. Maybe some speed from sex I guess

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tell me how are you supposed to know if you have the mental fortitude for it or not? theres no way of telling until after you do it. its not worth risking your sanity for something that isnt even that good.
the type of people who take psychoactive drugs and then are all like "whoah dude it totally chaned my view of the world maan my third eye has been opened" are usally dull and not very smart and end up just becoming dull junkies trying to live like some enlightened hermit. it's a fool's game

Fantastic argument

Sorry for your loss man, that's shitty. It's fucked up to watch someone close to you lose their mind.

>t. NPC brain
If you’ve never had a bad/uncomfortable experience from LSD you are either low IQ or blindly egotistical

From sex?

Couldn't have said it better

Psychedelics are fake euphoria desu , you think it's magical and shit but it means nothing in the end. I tripped on shrooms and Told myself I shoulndt do any drugs beside alcohol , alcohol is fine. Then i read about alcohol and how it kills brain cells and I have been drinking lately and feeling dumber and forgetting things so it confirms itself. Psychedelics don't teach you anything

For sex*

yeah well he to be honest we werent that close he was more a friend of a friend but seeing what happened to him really scared me because he was really quite smart and seemed didnt seem like somebody who could have that happen to him. made me realise nobody is safe from losing their mind. i dont even know what happened to him in the end but last time i saw him he was a completely different person

Shrooms are the best
Can’t wait for psylocibin minus the whole tasting like shit and making you nauseous

Any drug that fucks with your neurochemistry is gonna have some real bad effects in chronic usage. Go have a wank if you wanna up your endorphins, just don't rely on drugs to get you running normally

Shrooms are safer than lsd , but you still need to be in a very positive state of mind to enjoy it because it's introspective. Last time I did my life as a mess (and still is) so I had to use xanax to get me out of the bad trip hole

Acid is better tha shrooms

id rather lose a couple brain cells and suffer memeory loss and a couple iq points than completely lose my fuckng mind alltogether.
i have a couple pints every other weekend and sometimes a bit of wine with food but more for the taste to get drunk. i think if you dont abuse alcohol youll be fine really.
i used to drink almost every weekend and started getting cravings after work, realised i was on the way to becoming dependent on drink and took a break from it and now i think i have a good balance

Only those who are weak mibdednlosr their mind. I took lsd a few times as a kid, explored the deepest recesses of my mind but I came out alive. If you are strong minded you have nothing to fear.

Oh I see, yeah it can happen to literally anyone who takes it. It's sad as hell

and how are you supposed to know if you have a weak mind or a strong one? beleive you me all the people i know who fucked themselves up with drugs thought they had "a strong mind". theres no way to tell if youre going to lose your marbles or not, isnt worth the risk if you ask me

>Can’t wait for psylocibin minus the whole tasting like shit and making you nauseous
You are so new to the drug culture it's actually hilarious. Psylocibin chocolates have existed for a very long time.
They aren't even that difficult to make by yourself.
Mushroom tea has also been a thing for God knows how long.

Also drugs are all personal opinion.
My older brother enjoys smoking salvia. He loves the stuff. Yet he says he gets too much anxiety from mushrooms.
I personally love LSD. Almost always have a difficult trip (bad trip) when I take mushrooms though. I have friends that are the complete opposite.

You can't just say one is better than the other.

>I'm so strong-minded hurr durr durr
Again, It can happen to anyone, not just the weak... It's a hallucinogenic

Yeah LSD is probably a lot safer than weed in a therapeutic setting.
In a realistic setting? I'd rather the youth get peer pressured into weed than LSD.

Stop comparing the two when it comes to safety.
t. shroom masterrace

Black Death isn’t what determines if you end up in a casket, it’s your immune system

Not worth the risk at all. They act like this hasn't already been researched and proven for decades

>keep smoking weed goy, don’t touch that consciousness expanding LSD I wouldn’t want ya gettin WOKE
Liar. Jumping off a roof on acid is a (((meme)))

i do LSD once or twice a year to do a full reset
people doing it twice a month are braindead

>LSD make less damage at your body
You can't even write a coherent sentence fuck off you faggot

Maybe waking up to reality tends to push people toward hermithood

The one time I did drugs everything I did felt like it kept on repeating, I would lean towards a wall and feel like I fell into it over and over and over alongside the pain of doing so.
Suddenly everything was a void, just an infinite blackness, I wasn't even there. My mind was just sort of spinning in nothingness and it felt like hell. It's hard to explain.
This went on for what felt like an infinity until I was able to visualize something in the nothingness. What I saw was the moment I had died.
My buddies had shot me in the stomach and left me bleeding out while they were nonchalantly grinning. I relieved the moment of my death in what also felt like an infinity. There were many stages to this and the realization of what was happening, that this was life after death, but it would take too long to explain.
I never want to risk getting into this state of mind ever again. I feel like I've experienced what having a serious mental illness is like. If I ever become like that I'd much rather die.
TL;DR: The mind is a fragile thing, don't fucking risk losing it.

damn, this was insighful

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I'm in Amsterdam at the moment on a drugs tour to try and help with depression.

Sadly, magic truffles do wonders for others but not for me and I ate 40 grams of them. I ended up wandering around my apartment with pupils the size of dinner plates, felt really anxious for a while but near the end felt an overwhelming sense of peace (it didn't last, sadly).
I told a mate how many truffles I had and he laughed, that was way too many apparently but it was even more annoying when I found that out, I should have been in outer space but ended up feeling pretty meh.

Last night I was vomiting my guts out on ayahuasca, I feel a bit better but not a whole lot......no visuals there either but I cried a lot. I puked my guts up frequently, you definitely need a sitter for that shit.

Tonight I'm trying LSD.

do it anyway lol

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most research I can find implies that it is more on the safe side. No difference in mental health between users and nonusers. another was lower suicide thoughts in lsd users. Though it is only two its easy enough to find more

I have also heard that flashbacks are actually more common in non lsd using populations, tho I have never seen this paper.

I take lsd, dmt and shrooms myself, and I have never had a truly bad time. I have experienced discomfort, but introspecting on it usually reveals the root cause, a fear of death, losing loved ones, my own actions and thought process, going through these things I find that I am no longer bothered as much by them. I would say I am fortunate that these substances don't cause me any great distress. Personally I wouldn't really recommend that someone take any of these substances and I wouldn't recommend against it, they affect everyone differently, and It is a very personal decision

There is early research in about psychedelics being used for depression in professional settings and in my opinion it will be a very valuable tool in treating mental health issues, it has been for me, and I hope others can see the benefit from them

journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0269881114565653

journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0269881114568039

So much acid, rave bro, so much. Wish I could go back.

Alcohol only kills the weakest of brain cells, weeding out the slow and only the strongest brain cells will remain. It’s Darwinism of brain cells.
Maybe all of yours that have been culled we’re actually just weak brain cells. You were left with nothing? Sorry bro :(

DUDE
WEED LMAO

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Youre gonna fry your brain by doing too many psychedelics at once my friend. Also 40mg wet shrooms is 4mg psylocibin and it's a huge dose for the first time. 1.8mg is enough not to freak out. Frankly shrooms are the safest.

You experienced mind loops and it's scary yeah. Honestly why bother with mindfucking substances when you can take opiates or speed and feel fucking great without feeling insane

youtu.be/rbIdrnwEd24

I've taken lots one time over 1400ug and can confirm that the mental fortitude is a component. As is genetics. My brother is a psychotic due to drug use, I did not have the same fate and am fine and did not lose control even while tripping balls. Shrooms seem less controllable though psychically

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There isn't any story of people going to psych ward after taking shrooms though , while there's plenty of LSD ones

THAT'S the one you choose to correct?

Drugs are just for people who feel empty and lonely ,if you are healthy and do drugs please KYS

It’s the sort of thing where you’ll never know until you try. Psychedelics ARE physically safer than alcohol for example but only if you’re the right kind of person for it.
You just have to ask yourself a few questions to know if it’s right for you. Can you handle weaker psychoactive substances like weed or does it give you anxiety. If you can’t handle weaker substances don’t do psychedelics.
If you don’t have a strong grasp on reality don’t do psychedelics. If you have a family history of schizophrenia or other major mental illness don’t do psychedelics.

People always bring up “muh psychosis” when it comes to weed and psychedelics but anyone I’ve considered “ready” for psychedelics has never had a bad trip or any mental issues. I find that usually results from someone taking too much due to inexperience or just being unprepared mentally.

t. Used psychedelics on and off for a couple years with no bad experiences

There a lot of things to do nowadays to have fun,why drugs?

degenerate

>Alcohol only kills the weakest of brain cells, weeding out the slow and only the strongest brain cells will remain.

what autistic faggotry is this.
I guess your strongest remaining brain cells that made that statement, right?

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And especially of all things , why psychedelics when there's better

Why

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Stories of that happening when people take anything dude.

You mention depression. You aren’t currently or have very recently been taking antidepressants have you? SSRI antidepressants block the action of all psychedelics. You’ll feel a bit but you won’t have a trip with any real visual or mental effects.

it sure as fuck didn't help your spelling :(

I know some people who became retarded after use acid like 10 times
It's worse than weed to be honest, weed will lower your IQ and make you unproductive very slowly while acid hits quickly

read this faggot. io9.gizmodo.com/5812892/where-the-buffalo-theory-gets-neuroscience-right-almost

Listen to this faggot. RIP d0gbone

>there are week brain cells

underage containment thread

I don’t do drugs that often. The only ones I actually do are weed and psychedelics which tend to be a lot safer than any other class of recreational drugs. Weed I use regularly but also partly therapeutically since it allowed me to stop taking my SSRI antidepressants (which are fucking poison btw). Psychedelics I usually only do once every month or two because doing it any more than that feels stale.

idk

Also mean to mention that this drug while euphoric LSD talking about is an incredible psychic tool (using that word not as mental retard mind reading but simply to engage in new patterns of thought). It is like your thoughts become threads each terminating at some point but with each thread comes splits where you simultaneously can have several thoughts operating and interweaving in incredible speed and succession. My grandfather worked at SRI Stanford research insititute in the 60s and without giving too much away he worked on one Apollo mission, electrical computer communication, the patent of the computer mouse, digital magnetic logic, robotics in the 60s. The government, and this is open record you can look it up, gave hundreds of scientists including him LSD and they invented numerous more inventions and make him turn into an amateur mycologists. They were very surprised with its abilities and its profound effects on the feeling of love brothership. It is an incredible tool

Couldn't find the results of the study but here is an article about it:
google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2017/may/11/design-museum-california-designing-freedom-tech-design

The gist is that some of you just aren't genetically or mentally fortuitous enough to use these incredible tools. I am tho lel

>1400ug
>didn't lose control

That really didn't happen, either you were sold tons of shit blotter paper and lied to about the strength or you're just an outright liar. It is impossible to accurately measure the dosages, but I can absolutely assure you if you took let's say 4 blotters of around 110-130ug (not 25-35ug which most trash is sold at with the dealer claiming about 100ug) then you would be praying for your life.

1400ug is just absurd and the terror and confusion you would be feeling is unimaginable, I have supplied multiple retards with LSD before and the amount of times I've had their friend phone me up asking "how can we help him" even though I specifically warned them of the dosages beforehand and I've told them to fuck off. That's a lot of times.

If you took even 4 hits of this stuff, which isn't even that strong, it's only around 110-130ug per dose but the doses are accurate - into the fetal position you regress, and you would be praying until you either ride the trip out or hit yourself with large doses of benzos or opioids in attempt to abort it.

Because anything “better” than psychedelics tends to be addictive and harmful to your body

To be fair I took it over 8 hours so it wasn't all at once but it is the truth. I wish I spent more time to reflect but I still have many memories in very good detail of certain experiences. It wasn't shit it was made by a scientist. Additionally I had much tolerance by that point as it was a two month long binge. You are just not comfortable with yourself which is why you are AFRAID. Don't be afraid and if you can't be afraid stay away from those levels.

>To be fair I took it over 8 hours

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I had no history of psychosis in my family, I was very happy at the time, and I smoked weed with no problems, no anxiety, I also had tripped acid a dozen times before. I still ended up with schizophrenia.

NEVER LISTEN TO AN IDIOT
THAT SAYS LSD IS SAFE

They have never seen the underbelly of psychedelics, the streets are full of homeless and the asylums are full of crazies who had no problems before, took acid, and then accidentally afflicted themselves with Bipolar or Schizophrenia.

I get a feeling there are a lot of 20ish year old people who think bad trips are real and not an excuse for idiocy in use

Not the guy but I have taken 4 blotter dosed at 150ug (sold as that anyway). I was not praying for my life,

Yes, you write like the typical LSD freak.

I watched fear and loathing in Las Vegas recently. I half want to do psychedelics and half don't. I know some of the scenes show it as this blissful orgasmic thing to do and some of it is like nightmare shit or "the fear" as they call it.

To be clear there was one dosage around 600~ and then I would run back and take more to peak and then I just kept taking more to keep the ride going lol. I really wasted it playing video games and not taking time to reflect. The feeling of passing through time while listening to music was so visceral I wish I could just give you all the feeling. Had an out of body experience looking in the mirror and swinging my head back. It wasn't so much a psychic as a physical feeling, felt like my body was lagging behind the physical presence of my mind - just funny not like what people who take DMT describe (I have not).

Daily reminder that LSD was created in government labs and distributed by the CIA in the 50s and 60s, thus its large role in the gov manufactured hippie counter culture.

Those people were genetically predisposed to those conditions in most cases I'd say. There is a lot more to this. I've never had a bad trip and have tripped well over a hundred times. I felt and saw a dark blackness below me, I saw the psychological hell that one could descend into once but then I directed my mind up (which was easy because of the euphoria from lsd). You need to be alone and in a good state of mind. Solitude is the answer and a cozy place with NO BODY ELSE (except maybe your very best friend)

And in the Silicon Valley elite scientist circles

lol, like what's better?
opioids that fuck you up? amphetamine?

Nothing will prepare you mentally for tripping except prior experience with psychedelics (weed doesn't count). Expect the unexpected, get 20 dollars worth, and keep a friend around you that you trust not to mess with you physically or psychologically and you will be good.

also; if its bitter when you eat it, its not LSD but some kind of designer drugs like 2Ci or 25i-nBOMe

also acid can cause schizophrenia

kek

God has given you protection against the entities from other planes. When you take psychoactive substances this protection becomes weaker which allows those entities to influence and sometimes even communicate with you. Google what machine elves are, people who take dmt sometimes see them. Those are literal demons. Every culture on earth which used psychoactive substances in rituals are absolute bloodthirsty savages. Take aztecs for example. Those culture worship lesser demons, literally the lowest for of spirituality. Don’t take psychoactive drugs and don’t attempt to communicate with these entities. They are not benevolent.

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I suppose thats why they dont give a single fuck about society and are just carrying out the governments will. LSD is designed to deprogram your mind, this can have positive effects if used correctly, but it can also make you more open to government social engineering.

Okay, but what I was saying is that I had no one in my family with a history of psychotic spectrum disorders, yet I have one now from taking LSD. You cannot know for sure whethere or not you will get schizophrenia because guess what, we know next to nothing about schizophrenia. Its like playing russian roulette with your sanity. Everyone thinks they are invincible at the age where white kids trip LSD like filthy boomers. Psychosis will destroy your life.

The scary thing I think is that you don't know if you are resistant to mental disorders until after you take it. Again my brother took horrible drugs like salvia and bath salts but I think the impetus of his descent occurred because of salvia. He suffered greatly afterwards and almost reverted in his maturity (though he wasn't very mature at the time). I am completely fine though... I wish scientists were allowed to study this stuff and if we could get it prescribed for work and creative pursuits... hell even for video games I'd try again though I'd rather make better use of the trip.

>implying your friend's heavy drug use wasn't self medication for his existing and undiagnosed mental illness
also come on, bro, i remember one of my teachers telling us that "i know someone who took acid and jumped off a building" story. it's from go ask alice

Yes I agree and I am sorry about that. It shouldn't be treated lightly or recreationally and I wish scientists could study it. I am sorry, please be mindful and try your best to meditate away your paradoxical deleterious thoughts you can overcome this friend

600ug as first dose? that's strange, seems you were scammed. your mind would tell you if it's time to stop playing. no idea how you even could enjoy video games then. once i played pubg and dropped 250-300ug 1p-lsd (near same effects, but 10-15% weaker so you have to dose more) and i couldn't understand why i even connected to that maschine. videogames seemed very lifeless and the trees are horrible made, the textures disappear and pop in if you move, that was on top so annoying. ended up watching lo-fi house vhs cassette videos on youtube, they made my day. nevertheless i would have enjoyed real human connection more than that, but whatever.