Whoremongering - negative effect of promisculity on men

we all know how promisculity effects women, but not much is said on how does it affect males?

common talking point is that it makes them alpha or smth around reproduction (but they rarely reproduce so I dont get the argument) but from what Ive saw they too are affected by it in terms of marriage and many of them develop into weaselish characters or just infantile personalities.

my impression of all whoremongers Ive met was that they are vain and untrustworthy persons, faggots esentially with integrity of a drug addict.

discuss.

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another thing is that, even if they get married, they are almost never make good fathers (read Brothers Karamazov on good description of an ex-whoremongering father).

You know the nice father type (a beta by that faggot typology), the dad that teaches you how to work with tools, how to fight in school if needed, talk to girls etc....the one only a few of us had.
Guys who whored around and became fathers are almost never like that - almost as if they cant connect to the wife or his children and are still pretty self centered - ALPHA BASED AND REDPILLED!

look at the effect in pic rel on men and the drop (yes, a GENIOUS would note that its bigger effect on women), so why is this board so permissive to whoremongering?

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You are correct, at least this is the same in my observations. For a second, I thought you were describing a guy I know: vain, untrustworthy, drug addict, all of which is justified in his mind with the phrase "At least I get pussy!" He currently lives in his step dad's trailer with his mother, is unemployed, and still manages to get laid. It makes me not want to even bother with women.

>vain, untrustworthy, drug addict, all of which is justified in his mind with the phrase "At least I get pussy!

its a mentallity no different than a homosexual - everything revolves around cummies, both are sodomites actually, look into this thread its total vanity, no different than whoremongers.
Crucial trait is lying, those people treat truth like the worst women stereotype we have on pol, truth is just a convinience to get pussy. "Yes I lied, but at least I got pussy." And that mentality translates to other areas.

>vanity
Goddamn, youre onto something. He is also a wigger who obsesses over Nikes. You're also right in regards to the mentality translating into other areas. He takes no responsibility for any wrong doings, he stole from his own mother at one point to support his drug addiction, which has already flat lined him once.

Note how most of the original PUA guys are blackpilled loners nowadays.

>Goddamn, youre onto something.

help me put my finger on it...there is smth almost femined (or is wrongly masculinized a better term?) about the way they act. No concept of duty or responsibility, even when you explain to them how male whoremongering is a wind in sails to whores (whoremongers do actually complain about whores which says about their consistency) theyll listen but their end response is "fuck you I got mine", which I almost quote.

how to put it, they are just evil and cynical throughout.

Lying, vanity, parasitic lifestyle, and blaming others for your problems are clinical symptoms of sociopathy

Agreed, never met someone doing this, who would spoil the innocence of any woman, who was also straight in the head.

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>clinical symptoms of sociopathy

sociopath! Yes, that is the word I was looking for.
Sam Hyde is also a total sociopath and from time Ive been following that guy he became progressively more darker and vain.

have you noticed how other historical sociopaths all were sexual freaks hetero or not like de Sade?

go away to r9

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Honstly I think in practice, lying is a very good strategy, in most cases lying, emotionally manipulating, and these kind of things associated with women are more effective than working hard, saying the truth in this current society.

Men who have this characteristics are advantaged nowadays, but without more "autistic" people they are lost, they are parasites in my opinion, they couldn’t have a society with people who value truth

>they couldn’t have a society with people who value truth
I mean without people who value truth

Men don't generally begin life as whoremongers.

They get fucked over really badly by women who they thought they could trust, generally something worse then cheating.

In our western societies which are becoming more female dominated, these kinds of personalities are valued more, they are more emotional, like women, they are more people oriented, like women, but most of the time they are not the men who could create civilizations like ours.

To have societies like ours, in Europe, in Asia, we needed men who valued order, truth, stability. Now that we built them, we let women take power, and they will try to gain advantage, by creating these female dominated societies, like Africa, where there’s no stability, no progress, no order, no need for intelligence, just male competition for women.

If we let this happen, our people will get dumber, the males more aggressive against each other, less intelligent, more emotional.

Other men dominated societies like Asia can easily beat us in everything, and we could revert to Africa

If we don’t create men dominated society, where women don’t have to be treated badly, but if we let women control, it’s the end of our civilization

Women are not oppressed, women don’t fight openly, they manipulate you emotionally, they want you to empathize

Women have to be forced to be loyal, with laws, with shaming, we had those kind of things, but women manipulated us into undoing them, we have to be more autistic

>They get fucked over really badly by women who they thought they could trust, generally something worse then cheating.

"I did it but society is to blame."
"Ok, well arrest society."

The reason you have "great men of history" theory and men statues on horses all over the world is because they did heroic things and overcommed social pressures. That is why men have male privilege, it used to be a legitimate right.

>female dominated societies, like Africa,
>people will get dumber, the males more aggressive against each other, less intelligent, more emotional.

very good points,I cringe when people use darwinistic explanations about natural selection and reproduction. evolution is a pseudoscientific and circular theory anyway but cant we plese start by stopping using evolutionary psychology which is total dogshit.

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The fundamental disconnect is that they throw in the towel and decide to play the game, whereas we want to tear this whole bastardized system down and rebuild it into something wholesome. They accept women as they are rather than what they ought to be, what they were meant to be as man's companion. I don't mean a baby factory, I'm talking about providing a family with three kids, being that support beam for her husband when things get tough; essentially producing happiness. To take advantage of women in their degraded state rather than wanting to raise them up to their dignified role is for men who lack morals, guilt, shame, and an idealistic worldview. These "men" are just as dangerous to a wholesome system as whores are.

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Well said

>evolution is a pseudoscientific and circular theory anyway
It's just logic, think about this, could we have survived in Europe with the cold weather we have with an African mind? No, so it's inevitable that people in Europe had to be smarted, and this applies to the things I said about civilization.

just look at this shit? Is this alpha, is this what gives you alpha points?

I hate to use freuds terminology but this looks so overcompensation...histerically vengufull, sadistic, gay. So bloody gay and demasculinized.

now for more pure, straight from horses mouth
>guy goes on a mission trip with some fundie church
>finds a virgin church girl there
>takes her virginity
>claims that its "deserved" and fantasises how he cucked her future looser husband
>church mission trip

same sociopathic pattern, you cant invent this...

returnofkings.com/9782/why-christian-men-dont-deserve-virgins

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As a gay dude I will admit most gay men are whores and it debases them as creatures who exist primarily for carnal pleasure. There is nothing noble about that.

>my impression of all whoremongers Ive met was that they are vain and untrustworthy persons, faggots esentially with integrity of a drug addict.

Pretty much. Any proud Aryan with dignity is naturally revulsed by thots and whores. So the "men" who enjoy promiscuous sluts are really bottom of the barrel trash subhumans.

Alpha basically mean being a female fantasy, and that's against the vast majority of guys interests, and what most men evolved for

Men weren't selected in our civilization to understand women emotion, to care so much about appearance, we were selected for creating things, solving problems, dominate nature

Now I think the trend is favoring more socially good men, and that's usually mean manipulative and woman like in my opinion

That's why I can believe that in America niggers are becoming more popular, with the prosperity the more "autistic" man created, men like that aren't as needed, and women are selecting men like the world will always be this way

If you think about why "nigger" is such an offensive term, it's because black people are very emotional, they are on the opposite side of asians (and I think that's why asians are the least cucked in practice)

Emotional people like niggers will manipulate you with empathy, they will make themselves look weak (like jews with the holocaust), like they are victim, and that's how they survive

I think that's also how the woman's mind works, and that works so well, I think right now it's the most effective strategy at surviving, I think women are selecting this kind of strategy in men too maybe

But when the times are rough it will be much more valuable to have more "autistic" traits

>The fundamental disconnect is that they throw in the towel and decide to play the game

yes, but they go a step further. whoremonger can do more damage than a whore. They ABUSE AUTHORITY, women dont have that much authority...abuse of authority leads to rebellion to authority which is a phase we are in now.

Most "great men of history" had wifes they would trust their lives with and they themselves werent whoremongers. I rember a story about Petar Zrinski our national here that fought Ottomans, he was put to death later by Habsburgs and few days before his death he writes to his wife like "Ill be death, dont be sorry, take care of stuff, I love you". So interesting...

>Alpha basically mean being a female fantasy

total bullshit. Female fantasy is a Fenchmen or Italian, a more feminized romantic men not musculy American. Agressive Alpha idea was put up by degenerated men, its a male fantasy.

pooding proof
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolph_Valentino

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some "alpha" guys exert this salesman personality that women dont seem to pick up on.

3 years ago i was stlil a senior in college, and i had just broken up with my then-gf whom i dated for a year.

after that i went pretty crazy and fucked a lot of girls. most of them were actually female acquaintances and colleagues. I just knew that they were into me but held back because of the gf and basically went around hitting up everyone on my contact list. Never even had to resort to tinder.

That said, I agree. I think I was really fucking reeling emotionally or something. But i've never seen myself become so base. At one point I saw my grandmother weeping in heaven and God himself shaking his head at me, giving myself to these girls that just want to use me.

So, I stopped.

Been incel for about 2 years. When girls try to chat me up or show interest in me, I just avoid the subject now.

>total bullshit. Female fantasy is a Fenchmen or Italian, a more feminized romantic men not musculy American. Agressive Alpha idea was put up by degenerated men, its a male fantasy.
I like this statement, but I think it's possible that in fact some women like more "degenerated" man, I'll try to explain my reasoning if I can

Promiscuity is degenerate for either gender.
Men just have to work harder to pull it off with any degree of success. So they're marginally more respectable than females because they're good at what they do.

I always smile when I consider the fact that Roosh V, the greatest whoremonger of our time, has the same biological success as a basement dwelling 40 year old virgin NEET.

"conquering" woman benefit males.
Of course complete whoremongering generates a negative net on society but multiple sexual partners for males is a benefit.

Males need experience, competency and to be dominant.

>I think it's possible that in fact some women like more "degenerated" man

degenerated men GET LAID, but aggro is absolutly not the womens fantasy - look at all the women novels.
Women dont have agency, but still PUA imbeciles consider that FEMALE PERMISSION TO SEX grants virtue.

Women actually follow authority of men even today, think about that and look up Rudolf Valentino, he was mocked for being a femboy and not a cowboy type and absolutly adored by women like no men of his time. Very telling of what women want and how they act.

>multiple sexual partners for males is a benefit.

how exactly?

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What's the male fantasy? I think it's an attractive woman that's only loyal to you, that you can count on.

By following this, we have order, every man has a woman, every man provides for his family, and this works very well for societies, we became rich and strong, while societies who didn't built this remain poor and weak (asians-blacks).

What's the female fantasy? I'm not a woman, but it seems to me that women don't value loyalty that much. In a "traditional" society, they will compete by being a good wife for the wealthiest men, in a "degenerate" society, the men will compete for women, and the women will sleep with all the attractive men, not caring about loyality

So can we conclude that following women's instincts we have chaos?

100% correct

every men who conciously fornicated with a married women should be shot. total sociopaths.

>What's the male fantasy? I think it's an attractive woman that's only loyal to you, that you can count on.

that is not the fantasy, that is rational and profitable but not a fantasy. Male sexual fantasy is whoremongering, a Cassanova type.

No consequences for the women?

>that is rational and profitable but not a fantasy. Male sexual fantasy is whoremongering, a Cassanova type.
You are right, but there's still a component of the woman being only yours, at least for me

Wish I could see what it says. He also fucked a tranny.

Roosh proves that whore-mongering men are permanently fucked up.

who gives a shit

The strategy of men sleeping with lots of women is viable only as a parasitic strategy, like hoping that an unaware husband or the community provides for the kids, but it can work

>You are right, but there's still a component of the woman being only yours, at least for me

for me also.

>No consequences for the women?

Should be same as for the male, I need not to point that out.

>He also fucked a tranny.

yep and look how sophistically he lied about it, I really liked the guy but he turned into a lying sociopath.

Very good.

Women control the sexual market. Women choose.

To blame men for this is very stupid considering it's women who are always the gatekeepers of sex.

If women didn't want to fuck Chads, they wouldn't. But guess what, they do.

The problem is we have allowed women to completely take over society to an absurd degree, where they are allowed to do whatever they want with no consequences.

>its a mentallity no different than a homosexual
Especially since it's usually with chemically sterilized females, and so the sex is sterile and transient as it is with homo sex. And so it's wasting sexual energy with no evolutionary gain. And so it's unconsciously going through the motions of activity which once would have produced progeny, but without procreation. And so it's a form of how a dog chases it's tail as a means of reproducing the act of something which would be evolutionarily advantageous, which would be chasing game. It's also donating sexual energy at the alter of the female. It also doesn't give you any long lasting satiation, only moments of pleasure followed by a neurochemical comedown. And the hedonistic lifestyle of sex drugs and rock and roll leads eventually to the state of psychic anhedonia.

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>Women control the sexual market. Women choose.
>The problem is we have allowed women to completely take over society to an absurd degree, where they are allowed to do whatever they want with no consequences.
I agree 100%, it's like, if women decide, most men and society lose, but if men decide, women aren't as penalized.

Women have evolved this mind that can emotionally manipulate like jews, they make themselves look like victims while they victimize you

good night anons, keep the thread alive, there are some wise people here, usually the PUA sociopathy get on these threads to cope like flees on crap, but this time good people run this.

I love you bros, good luck!

>Very good.

I wasnt white knighting but focused this thread on males primarily that is why I didnt mentioned it, for women its basically white sharia but without the douchebaggery.

>The problem is we have allowed women to completely take over society to an absurd degree

say that again? Women allowed themselves to take over or socipathic men obsessed with cummies did? This can be a constructive conversation after all.

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>Women allowed themselves to take over or socipathic men obsessed with cummies did?
The reality is that technology made traditional marriage less vital, and that caused all of this, it's like we created Africa in Europe and in America, you don't have to think that much ahead to survive, you don't have to be that intelligent, the state will provide for your kids etc. That's the cause of all this, it wasn't promiscuous men or women

Boomer American dad life lessons:
1. Place pride and self worth on your mediocre job
2. Repress all emotion and be an npc
3. Drink alcohol and get wasted 2 nights a Week
4. Buy into zog conditioning

"alphas"=dumb losers addicted to orgasms

the fact that alphas basically have free reign in this age is more of a reflection that the rest of us have degenerated

Of course they're retarded. They're the people that actually fuck whores.

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>dumb losers addicted to orgasms
Doesn't this describe black people? They don't think about their sons, they just fuck women and they don't raise the kids

I think if this type is really popular we could revert to that...

So long as the state gives cash incentives to reproduce, it will happen.

Make sure all you trad fags actually back up your morality and lifestyle with religious substance. If not, you ain't doing jack shit for the white race, you're just telling people what to do.

>t. Shekelberg --- I mean McNulty

In prison cultures in the USSR men who had an obsession with sex, group sex and masturbation were often forcefully branded with tattoos of bunnies (one of a thousand other symbols in the prison lexicon) and were referred to with the designation of "cunt-struck" because of their inability to go without female attention, which was seen as at the very least decreasing their ability to be trusted with important information. Not that I venerate Russians or anything - or that any of those men enforcing such standards had an aversion to sex or women themselves - but it's worth thinking about, I guess.

>africa
>female dominated

can you elaborate or provide some reading on this? always seemed like the opposite but am interested

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2833377

This study indicates that in Africa women breeded 1.4 times more then man, 1.3 in Europe and 1.1 in Asia

It means that in Africa men are selected way more than women, while in Asia they are the same

Also, in Africa there's a lot less monogamy

>roosh
any woman that would have sex with a sand nigger is a whore

That doesn't mean that politically women rules, because in my opinion women are way better at manipulating people emotionally, and not openly with politics

That's why I think asians are more autistic, and they have less of this emotional manipulation, while niggers are so good at socializing

interesting posts user. sleep well.

My dad slept with like 50 women and had 5 divorces, kids from multiple families, an alcohol problem, and multiple broken engagements between the marriages. He also ended up going to jail multiple times for different dumb shit (on top of being a violent drunk and nearly killing me in a car accident when i was 9)

Today he is a man-child who lives alone in a tiny apartment. He apologized for his retardardation but I'm the only child who forgave him and still talks to him. I am one of the only people in the world who actually talks to him. He's still a big man-baby though.

Watching him grow up made me conservative and HATE liberal man-whore men.

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Holy fuck mate. I feel you. But were both on Jow Forums on a Friday night. I can hear my father listening to his asanine programs upstairs. I'd leave but I'm worried if I go that he is gunna kill himself.

I hope you the best user.

Just makes me think "Freedom" is just bullshit and we need theocratic authoritarianism

Boomer men are one of the worst generations of men in human history

Maybe it affects them badly. Though, being a virgin certainly hasn't been a good influence on me.

>female dominated societies like Africa
Wtf are blabbering about. Countries in Africa are thee most patriarchal societies in the world.

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