I thought they like the French? Why buy the expensive boondoggle F-35 instead of the agile and modestly priced French Rafale or the German Eurofighter?
Why did Belgium betray France?
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>don't buy France's crap
>"betrayal!"
kek. They didn't even bother to put in a proposal, just hoped they could bully/blackmail us into breaking the acquisition procedure and doing what they wanted. Better luck next time, chers amis.
Because it smokes any gay ass European shit.
Because the f35 went 24:1 at redflag and is currently teas bagging Iran under s400 cover. Fuck off.
And send them to Patria for proper modifications to make them flight worthy.
Best luck with your lemon, the F-35. How many cocks did the Anglos suck for this deal to fly?
We Germans are currently testing passive radar in Bavaria which can easily track F-35s.
>Buying French weapons
>(((Chauchat)))
Bitch, please!
Yes, good euros buy our planes.
Lol sure hans
>Russia never engages in a war
>only time Soviet jets are used is decades after their introduction when they are obsolete by sandpeople against modern US jets
oh vey, Russian jets are inferior!
Meanwhile, 22yrs after the F-35 program was started, the US airforce still has 0 combat missions flown with the F-35. It’s like the Nazis developing the Me-262 and waiting until the 1960s to use it...
>Germany siding with France
Stay gold, ponyboy.
COLOGNE, Germany — The German Air Force and electronics specialist Hensoldt are gearing up to deploy a new sensing technology in southern Germany that promises to target enemy aircraft without pilots knowing they are being tracked.
The company first unveiled its TwInvis passive radar system at the Berlin Air Show in April, where it was rumored as a technology with the potential to detect stealthy aircraft like the F-35.
The upcoming test in early November is part of what the German Air Force considers a “measuring campaign” to evaluate the technology, a service spokesman said. The Air Force expects to participate in the event with aircraft and personnel.
Passive radar systems rely on commercial airwaves to watch a given airspace. In a nutshell, the sensors can compute the positions of aerial objects based only on their reflections in the buzz of broadcast signals over populated areas.
The lack of a dedicated emitter against which reflections are tracked in traditional radar setups means the system cannot be detected by anti-radar weapons.
>Outsiders reference from bong
Didn't know that book was popular outside of the US
fuck these belgium niggers
f35 doesnt reflect waves so how will that work?
>Why buy the expensive boondoggle F-35 instead of the agile and modestly priced French Rafale or the German Eurofighter?
You know why, Kr*utcuck. We're coming for you motherfucker again and you'd best recognize it.
The Germans have a lot of experience with the USAAF.
Anglo-German Eurofighter you mean?
Bad pilots?
Passive radar.. You're a funny guy.
Why buy TIE fighters when you can get X-Wings?
The selling point of the F-35 isn’t the stealth.
Real engineers call it low observance. Stealth was coined by some stupid jurno.
>lack of russian plane usage doesn't speak to poor quality
>lack of F35 usage does
when has the US been in combat compelling enough to use either jet(F22, F35)? Iraq? Afghanistan? Libya? Iraq again?
There's no use speculating on Russian, Chinese, and US tech superiority in unused weapons because there's no reason to think any of the 3 are being honest. They know any armed conflict between the 3 could be the last battle the planet will ever know of course everyone is hiding an ace or 4.
It seems extremely simplistic to run with the few negative stories that come out about the F35 like RT and be like "you see!? ruski powerful!"
and the allied powers coming out against the F35 usually have some sort of economic interest in the alternative jet.
Remember, Boeing who had plenty of lobbying power came out with a jet that seemingly checked all the boxes, it was on time and it was under budget and the military chose to go with the F35, so there probably is some capability or attribute that isn't public knowledge. If i had to guess some kind of automation capability.
But who knows, the Boeing JSF might have just been rejected because it was funny looking.
What are you talking about? It has already been used by Israel with effective results in Syria. An F-35 fly by wire guided a Russian S-400 missile into a Russian bomber killing all 13 on board. Talk about embarrassing being shot down by a weapon you gave to Syria
This really. But the F-15, F-16, F/A-18 still hold up well in the meantime.
The F-35 was pozzed from the beginning. It was made to be a mass produced multirole consumer model of the F-22 that has to be upgraded and maintained with monthly subscriptions to United States Army of Israel.
Fuck it. Countries need to be able to develop their own weapons without (((their))) intrusion.
what comic book did you read this in
The F-35 is cheaper and better than the Rafale.
I didn't know we had a referral system for our planes
It wasn't a bomber and the deaths were 15 not 13 but Syria shot it down while targeting an Israeli fighter.
Look at that chubby little gigglefuck
Eurofighter is trash and the Rafael is best as in long range strike. Not as token air defense in some nato coalition air wing.
why are europeans so gay
water? high amounts of estrogen infused foods?
>buying a bureaucratic nightmare memestealth plane
Hahahahah
>French Rafale or the German Eurofighter
Neither can operate in high threat environments and are relegated to cruise missile launchers.
interesting. of course the obvious explanation is that syrian operators suck ass at target identification
They used an S-200 you dumbfuck
They should of been aware of the other aircraft but decided to fire anyways
So you're saying that everyone in NATO, including the USA, has bad pilots except for the exact pilots inside the USAF F-35A's?
Cause that's what happened at Red Flag.
Russia also doesn't fly with transponders on.
Masters of the brown envelope, no cock sucking required.
>Why buy the expensive boondoggle F-35
Because, while incredibly bungled and overexpensive to develop, is a good weapons/sensor platform.
It's also cheaper than the alternatives
Sorry. S-200. Still a major problem to be firing any aa system in this crowded airspace
Thank you Belgium, very cool!
>it was rumored as a technology with the potential to detect stealthy aircraft like the F-35.
>rumored
>potential
Kek
>Passive radar
lol wut
You can have radar detectors, sure, but passive rador? fuck off.
how do friendlies identify them?
The fact that you don’t even know the specs from the 200 to a 400 shows utterly retarded you sound in this whole thread
you know you could punch terms into google before posting on Jow Forums about them
>promises, rumored, potential, evaluate, expects
who cares? they will never be used in war.....the only thing Europeans use their planes for is scrambling to escort unresponsive TU-95s over the North Sea or wherever.
They didn’t have the equipment to tell because Israel kept begging to Russia to block the 300 delivery, which could actually id a Russian plane properly. The Syrians used Soviet-era ADs until now
They can't. Which is why they got shot the fuck down.
>f35 doesnt reflect waves so how will that work?
But it does, just not a lot. Passive radar uses all the natural and man made sources of radiation in the local environment (comms, TV, GPS, etc) Because this stuff is there, everywhere, all the time it can be used without an active emmiter (Which would alert the pilot),. and because we know have digital processing, we can literally now pick up a bird or a fly, which was impossible in the days of analog electronics and phosphor o- scopes.
The french one is just made from better materials tho.
Concordes armed with canons would be a better choise!
Why would we use an aircraft carrier jet on a country well within the F22'a reach?
(RAF Mildenhall to Berlin is no problem at all)
It matters not. The jews have already guilted you into becoming a caliphate.
>buy EU jets
>find out the hard way the hardware and software is backdoored
natocucks in finnish politics think you are a putinist if you support buying any other replacement for our f18s than the f35
F-35A is ground based, it's an F-16 replacement.
Wow. Angry much. That wasn't the argument. Try and keep up.
I'd figure they'd have their own IFF system, but then again, it's Russia.
They must of seen the two separate contacts on radar before they shot. If they had comms with the aircraft they could of easily worked it out.
Put simply it's just a cluster of receivers that pick up everything from ULF to UHF in a set direction looking for reflections that is not a source signal.
Not original by any means but it should give the operators a heading on where aircraft are based on the reflections concentration.
Remember that the F-22 / F-35 / J-20 and others are tuned to be VLO against X-band and LO against S-band radars, only the B-2 and B-21 are also VLO against long wave. They still reflect other radio frequencies outside of those bands.
What this “passive radar” is looking for is objects in the sky reflecting everything from town radio stations and cell phone tower signals to Cletus with an unshielded microwave.
It won't be accurate (at least not right away, or without multiple receiver locations working together), but it's better than nothing.
Detection =/= shoot down, m8
>buy american jets
>get ITAR cock blocked and you'll never be able to get rid of your outdated shit
Because Belgium is not a country, but a kike stronghold. It will be stormed and burned down when the Eurowars start next year.
Come close to Europe and we will sink all of your ships, nigger. The white man does not fear the mutt.
>Detection =/= shoot down, m8
Honestly, you septics are so unbelievably retarded when it comes to defending your glass ego's. Do you shout "murica" when you look at yourself in the mirror in the morning>
Russia is doing us that favor, same as China. We will be in debt. AGAIN.
After that, I hope (((Democracy))) is dead, forever.
And you guys with muslims, if they can do that to you faggots imagine what we the white men can do.
Russia doesn't have IFF on many of it's jets, only has it in their top end fighters.
Russians and Chinese hate Americans, they would side with Europe. We are the closest thing you guys have to real allies.
lol you really think they will help you?
Serious question, why is it almost exclusively Dutch and Germans with a maasive chip on thier shoulders?
They should probably focus on that before starting any wars.
I could only imagine how much friendly fire they'd have.
Once Russia purges NATO from Europe, America's back is broken. Don't play stupid. It's over.
Et tu Belgae?
The soviets didn't expect to have an airforce 72 hours into any war vs the west.
No i do not think nuclear powers go to war. But if there were no nukes, they would condemn the aggressor possibly declare war depending on their own interests. Most coalitions are not based on helping each other but on shared interests, and both China and Russia have an interest in bring the US hegemony down.
by the time that's an issue maybe they can build their own jets
Belgium definitely picked the better supplier considering what the EU is doing.
>"if" yeah but there are so stfu
Their last duty is to provoke Russia into attacking Europe so that the inevitable War will give (((them))) their chance to usher in a New Order. It's a delicate, stupid charade - if you know the plot.
Only a cuck could not see it.
CIA niggers run france, which is now Somalia v2 and is pushing for an EU army with Germany to fight the burgers
F35 is faster then radar. The blip would be the tunnel of light to your death
you don't need those planes anyway. you're just giving away money
We are the most intelligent Europeans, we understand the power dynamic between the US and Europe. But mutts keep attacking with dumb rhetoric regurgitated foxnews and Trump.
Fiat money is worthless and will collapse prior to said events. Then the tanks roll.
Why not?
Our air force was far superior to theirs
Those are quite some implications you're implying
One of the reasons China and Russia are hoarding all the gold, but it wont save their asses in the end, either. Chaos has a very own dynamic, and Kek is not done yet with humanity....
Just lean back & enjoy the shitshow.
The west, specifically the USA, made Navy and Air their focus. The soviet airforce vastly outnumbered and the jet engines they made had very short life times. They expected the jets that weren't shot down to have burned out their engines within 3 days.
Same reason you don't see anyone making commercial jet engines but the USA/EU. Our jet tech is insanely better.
Why is OP's Filename a GUID?
Comprehensive reading must be hard for you. I gave a concrete answer to the question "no" the rest was an explanation why made the statement they would side with Europe and why i did not say they would help us, that is your straw man. Now off yourself mutt.
*laughs in V2*