/NOVA ERA/ - Imperialismo Brasileiro Edition

>President-Elect Jair Bolsonaro, English subtitles included
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>BACKGROUND
Jair Messias Bolsonaro is a Brazilian congressman and former military officer. He has served as a member of the Chamber of Deputies, representing the state of Rio de Janeiro, since 1991. In an unprecedented presidential run, spending significantly less than his adversaries, under constant fire from the mainstream media, and having survived an assassination attempt, Bolsonaro was elected by the popular vote to the presidency of Brazil. He will take office as the 38th president in January 1st 2019.

Bolsonaro is a pro-gun, pro-life, conservative Christian. He's looking to modernize the lethargic Brazilian economy with the aid of UChicago economist Paulo Guedes and he also wants to align Brazil's foreign policy with Western nationalist governments against the influence of China, Eurasianism and Bolivarian socialism. He has a hard stance on crime and supports increasing the power of police forces and the army to tackle Brazil's drug and violence problems.

>CONFIRMED MINISTERS
*Onyx Lorenzoni - Chief of Staff
*Paulo Guedes - Economy
*General Augusto Heleno - Institutional Security
*LTC Marcos Pontes - Science and Technology
*Judge Sérgio Moro - Justice
*Tereza Cristina - Agriculture

>Future economy minister predicting Bolsonaro's surge in 2009, turn on CC for English subtitles
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Why are the souther Brazilian states better than the northern ones?

I want a qt catholic gf

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>And that's why Americans have short lines in hospitals and can actually get treatment when they want
Because further demand collapses from the almost extortionate prices charged in the industry?

If the money was actually spent where it has to be spent, ok, but it is all stolen by politicians.
You can't have it both ways: More money in the pockets of citizens, to use as they will, then you can give incentives to charity ( like Bolsonaro supporters and himself donating to the Santa Casa where he was treated ), lower or no taxes.
Or you keep giving money to the government to be spent on Gay Parades in São Paulo and videos teaching your kid how cutting his dick off to become a tranny is such an empowerment.
Alongside with Financing MST and all the other garbage.
I know what I want, and it's a big "fuck you" to people that are not on the "assets" column.
Se assistencialismo funcionasse a África estaria colonizando Marte semana passada.

white people

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1532 -> The good people of Saint Vincent, in now São Paulo States, elect their representantives freely for the first time in America.
It's the first municipality and the first democratic elections to appear in America.

Based Portuguese of Brazil...

Correlation does not imply causation.

Northern states got bad Geography.

Also: Nice pic.

Imperialismo Tupiniquim

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Americans end up spending much more money on healthcare because of their shitty system.
SUS is good, we have to improve it instead of throw it away.
The poor fucks can't pay for healthcare, and have them healthy is better for the country in the long run

Do a mixed model like Singapore. Maybe make a special fund to pay for healthcare expenses for the poor?

You should have kept those Argentine provinces and Cisplatina.

Also, I believe Cisplatina was conquered way before 1815 as the Colony of Sacramento is pretty close to Buenos Aires and was founded by the Portuguese well before the XIX century.

Also, I think that somewhere before the XIX century the Portuguese conquered and settled Cisplatina to such an extent that even after it got its independence it was still have populated by Brazilians - mostly Portuguese settlers who identified more with Brazil than the Spanish countries...

But then again, you have to pay a price for your deviant behaviour and your subversive choices this last two centuries.

the "coincidence" argument, gotta love that one.
guess why africa is shit and europe isn't, guess why northern states are shit and southerns isn't
the same reason why there is a shit ton of africans going to europe but no europeans going to africa, is the reason why people from northern states go to southern states but the other way around doesn't happen.

Better economy, climate, infrastructure...basically better everything

The Northeast (nordeste) stagnated after mid-19th century. The South (specially São Paulo) quickly became the economic axis of Brazil. Those who live in this region have to deal with the lack of fertile land and pervasive drought and famine (300.000 died in the 1870s drought). Besides, the powerful landed oligarchy (coronelismo) is stronger in this region than anywhere in Brazil. These petty lords are remnants of feudalism. The state of Maranhão, the poorest of Brazil, is ruled by oligarchies since the inauguration of the republic (1889). Its chief, José Sarney, was the first president of the current republic (1985 - 90).

If you want to help the poor, give them the money to pay for Healthcare. No need to have the government in charge of hospitals.
And that by the way, is what Guedes defends.

We need to build ICBMs to protect ourselves from China and Muslims
Can anyone make a project for this?
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Make it less expensive, make people with more money keep their money in their pockets, including doctors breaking their backs working retarded shifts and then being robbed while getting at home.
Make it so that people can actually help others and not drag everyone down with them.
Essa palhaçada de nivelar por baixo é ridícula, pessoas aqui podem não ser caridosas como via de regra, mas é porque o Governo monopolizou a caridade através do imposto dos outros pra poder clamar a glória e ganhar votos.
If a poor person can go see a doctor and give 50 R$ on his hands, he wouldn't even feel as a burden because even if they are paying less, they are paying for a service, if you deduct it all and transfer it to taxes, nobody has that sense anymore, and everyone wants the Big Daddy government to come and rescue them.

>Using the race "argument"
>when the northeast is filled with whites and white descendants and only Bahia is filled with blacks
Try harder, pseudo aryan

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does this make you tear up?

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>Correlation does not imply causation.

user! I!
What! Really!?

So, you think that having a huge amount of slaves is optimal?
Or is it a huge amount of natives that have barely understood Civilisation?

Why is South Mexico, Guatemala and Honduras such shit?

Yeah, white people are not really magic, but...

oh boy

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Anything that avoids a captive market situation and inflation of prices that follows soon after like in the USA sounds good to me.

china yes
I don't think Muslims are going to target us for some time
not until the EU becomes a khalifate

Because any normal father gets emocional when talking about how much he loves his offspring

I would rather a rich person keeps his money, maybe even HIMSELF can build a Hospital and employ the medics he wants, than the government raping everyone through taxation and stealing the money.
You will chase after corruption forever because the system they built is meant to be corrupted, politicians shouldn't have this much power.
Americans pay more because Obama Care ( their copy-paste of SUS ) was pushed there with a penalty for younger people that don't need that much healthcare, it's some people paying for others... socialism, President Trump got rid of the individual mandate tho, so there is no more penalties for it.

They should fear us

What if his offspring are abject failures and he hates them for it?

My point is that even if the Amazon states or the Northeast were 100% white they would still be poorer than the south/southeast. They have way more fertile land and lower infrastructure costs.

>Why is México, Guatemala and Honduras such shit
Cominism and drug cartels

Heh i love this game

Look up negative income tax.
Instead of giving people the service, you give them the money so they can pay for the service.
That way you avoid the state running everything.

>when the northeast is filled with whites and white descendants
> whites and white descendants
i did not understand that at all
>when the northeast is filled with whites
less than 30% of the northeast is white the lowest of the country, but again just a coincidence right

Sacramento was the only long-lasting Portuguese colony in the Banda Oriental (Uruguay). Portugal built some forts on the eastern side of this region in the late 18th century but that's that. D. João VI launched the invasion of Banda Oriental only in 1817 against the wishes of most of the people. You can't blame us for losing the province. We had to fight against Argentina and Artigas immediately after the War of Independence and the Pernambucan Revolution. The Cisplatine War was very unpopular and the country was bankrupt. Still, we would have won the war if Britain didn't intervene.

There are brown people here, you'll never get them to say "brown people are the problem" because some/most of them, aren't.

What kind of game is Bolsonaro playing?

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>Better economy and infrastructure.
Like those things are not a direct result of the people living there.

Danganronpa V3, considering he's a huge weeb

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Point 1 - Northeastern Stagnation:
Not true. The Northeast has always grown both economically and demographically. While it is true that it became way less productive *in comparison with* the rest of the country, I haven't seen evidence that it stagnated either economically or demographically, even though many Northeasterners moved South.

Point 2 - Lack of Fertile Land:
The regions in the Northeast that are not fertile are almost empty of population. Just like the North and the Centre West. That is not a good argument.

Point 3 - Pervasive Drought:
That is a meme.
It has been proved to be a meme.
It's the same region that is no fertile: It is empty of people and is not the main population centre of the region. The coast of the Northeast from the Mucuri to Maranhão is actually densely populated for the most part, and it does not suffer much with lack of rain or drought.
Not only that, the S. Francisco river passes through the "drylands of Northeast Brazil".

Point 4 - Muh Landed Oligarchy / Coronelismo:
It was the same in São Paulo and South Minas; and those regions mannaged to be okay and get out of that system.

Why criminalize it?
It's better to expose and humiliate commies.

We lost a piece of Pirara, btw

Brazil precluded the restoration of the platine viceroyalty; defeated the separatist rebels supported by Buenos Aires; launched an invasion on Argentina, bombed its capital and toppled Rosas; and established an hegemony over the region for two decades. I think Brazil got as far as it could go regarding the platine region.

Nazism is illegal. Either put your name on a project to legalize Nazism or support making communism illegal.
Stop being a pussy, both should have equal status

RDR2

The North is a shithole, though. The Center West was also a shithole until Brasília and modern agribusiness happened.

Ok. Good come back.

Although I believe that if those states were 100% white they would mannage to surpass the South/Southeast and Olinda would be a world wide magnet of tourism and investment.

>fertile land
Africa has extremely fertile lands, yet all those countries have lower development index than all there rest of the world.
There is no magic dirt, what makes a nation is the people in it.

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Ethernal NYAHAHAHAHAAA!

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based Bolsanaro

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If a war broke out in South America, which countries could defeat us?

It's not that brown people are the problem for being brown.
It is that browns tend to be in a given context and make some sub optimal choices...

ex. That faggot that doesn't shut up with the "Império Tupiniquim".

But yeah, good point. White Brazilians are generally shitty from my point of view, and clearly so, just like all people.
But brown Brazilians are notoriously worse, in average.

I don't know why so many in Brazil are okay when we make this assertion over the whites but suddenly are not okay about the browns because "muh good average Brazilian people!"

Do you guys think that spics teach kids that we are the bad guys in the same way we teach our kids US/capitalism are the bad guys?

You are making a joke out of that, but they literally believe in this. If you shoot a criminal on his back, or stab him in the back, you go to jail because they don't believe that legitimate defense. "He was going away and wasn't a threat anymore! You shouldn't have stabbed him!"

>when the northeast is filled with whites and white descendants
If by filled you mean a small minority, than yeah...filled.

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Whites don't give a shit.

No one, really, Brazil is the power in South America by its numbers. But if you are talking about an alliance of them against us, then it's diffetent.

In the US is also illegal to shoot someone in the back.

Try opening a business in a shithole where most houses dont even have a sewer system and its ruled by coroneis and corrupt politicians and tell me its their fault. Jesus christ im from the southeast and im starting to hate the south more than the southeast

Ok.
But I think you should have hold those territories.
You should have fought harder for Cispatina.

I don't know, really... thanks for the info.

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Can you have colonial sugar plantations without slave labor, though? I honestly can't think of an example in which European peasants were slashing sugarcane and working in the mills.

Almost every single person i've met from the northeast was white or had white ancestors

ATOR PORNO

> Uruguay 88% white

Nice

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Most Northeasterners are descendents of whites, sure, and your numbers about the white percentages in South America are shit.

Do you believe Venezula is 40% white?
Do you believe it is as white as Minas Gerais or Goiás?
Colombia...

>14k
That's impressive, especially when you consider most of those fucks spend MILLIONS

>Santa Catarina is the whitest state
Really makes you think.

>Acre, 45% white

Kek

Delusional mutt jews

>I don't know why so many in Brazil are okay when we make this assertion over the whites but suddenly are not okay about the browns because "muh good average Brazilian people!"
Nice misdirection of my point, Portuguese are not white, neither are Spaniards, in my view only Germanics are white, you are just arab rape babies, then how many whites can you gather to share that point of view of yours?
The Supremacist argument doesn't work here for winning an actual election, neither to make the lives of whites better, praising "THE GREAT WHITES" in Brazil just works for Northeasterners and North pardos to come down and fuck white areas, like they already do on a regular basis.

Believe me, white people here in NE is just the ones with good money. The majority is just plain pardos. Some states do have more niggers than others. We don't have plenty of white people but I think we are place in third (by sheer numbers, not percentage), behind you guys and SE.

I suppose Argentina and Uruguay could harm you in the South.
The others I find it difficult.

Really, Argentina has armed forces about the same quality of Brazil, not quantity.

Because suger cane doesnt grow here, they would have made us if they could, and they finally did, when the sugar beet was invented.

Rio Grande do Sul would just switch sides to get their independence.

Of course not.
What's your point, really?
Are you defending that it would not be best for Brazil if the Northeast was, say, 50% white?

Or 80% white?
Or 100% white?

Do you really believe it doesn't matter?

Slaves were replaced by indentured serfs and coolie (South/East Asian) labor in the plantations right after slavery was abolished in European countries and their colonies.

I don't think you know how the sugar planations worked...

I'm saying that early colonial agriculture wouldn't be feasible without slave labor. The Brazilian sugarcane plantations couldn't compete with the Caribbean ones while using slaves, let alone if they used free labor.

>the northeast would be better if it was 50%
It would be the same shithole but woth hotter women(though there is a lot of hot girls there already)

He just uses it for netflix

Nice anecdote. They are still a minority there.
>descendents of whites
Obama also is descendents of whites. They are also descended of africans, over 40% of the population fo the country is mix race.
Share your demographics date than

>you are just arab rape babies, then how many whites can you gather to share that point of view of yours?

Please, reframe.
I actually did not understand what your point was.

It could also happen...
But I suppose it would not be likely.

It's a Catch 22, there is no point in investing lots of money in capital-intensive, highly-productive agriculture when you have a abundant source of almost free labor laying around.

Most of Russia were slaves, and our peasants werent free to leave their land either

My point is that there wasn't really an economic activity suitable for the northeast without slave agriculture.

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I think there are more whites, as a percentage, in the Centre West as well.
You're just better than the North.
But not even really, because the North is so large, empty, and basically native mixed. It has not coalesced yet into a centre of tri racial degeneration fueled by Socialism.

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Back in the time, sure. But now?
But for the past 100 years?

Brazilians better think deeper and faster on what is holding the Northeast down and correct it, because otherwise you'll have to deal with an ever increasing amount of shit.

Only that, sometime in the not so distant future, (((Northeasterners))) may become the majority in the Southeast as well.

You have been warned.

We won Pará in the second turn.

Anecdotes are not arguments.

Besides, chances are you're in an university, which are highly segregated environments (i.e. richer people in the northeast, for pure coincidence of course, tend to be white and more likely to go to university and meet faggots like you).

... Ok. So you are for the (even more pronounced) browning of Brazil. You really believe that will not have bad consequences, except a little less hotter women, perhaps.

>"Nice anedote but my graphic says something and i will blindly agree with it instead of actualy meeting people from the northeast and have my own conclusion"
Well good luck then

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Maybe it does have something to do with race, but there's not much we can do about it. Genocide is immoral, eugenics is also anti-christian and we can't encourage another European immigration wave, because today's Europeans would never live their countries to live in places like Maranhão or Amapá.

My point is that talking about race in Brazil, a cesspoll of mixed people accomplishes absolutely nothing, and anyone trying a D&C about any Nation can do that easily, much more so here when a guy in Northeast say that there are whites there when people know that the "white" they are talking about is a pardo with a less tanned skin.
My point was how can you get using racial arguments to actually gain power, non-whites on white Nations can sure as hell use this "them vs us", but here it would be for nothing, like some candidates claiming there were actual Nazis in the South, to stir the population from other areas to vote different than they did.