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Therefore, all catholic who votes for a communist party (which is a way to make favor) or who affiliates into a communist party, or who writes filo-communist books or magazines are excluded from the sacraments.

Those who defend, promulgate or declare the materialism from the communists are also automatically excommunicated.

This decree from Pius XII’s Holy Office, confirmed by John XXIII in 1959 is still valid. In fact, Pius XII worked personally against communism in Italy.

Such a condemnation of communism adds up to other condemnations made by Pius IX, Leo XIII, St. Pius X, Pius XI, Pius XII (who have condemned it in other opportunities), John XXIII, Paul VI, the Council Vatican II (which reiterated the preceding condemnations) and John Paul II.

It has been more than 100 years that the Catholic Church condemns communism, socialism and any kind of materialism and material egalitarianism. The penalty for those who disobey the prohibition of aiding communism (or its variants) under any aspect (including voting for filo-communist parties) is automatic excommunication.

"Religious socialism, Christian socialism are contradictory terms, for no one can be, at the same time, good catholic and true socialist." (Pio XI)

Pope Benedict XVI on Racism

From a sermon on the second creation story in Genesis 2:

Thus the unity of the whole human rat once becomes visible: we are all made from one earth. There are no varying forms of 'blood and soil'. There are no fundamental differences between one group of human beings and another, as the myths of so many religions thought and as worldviews of our time also claim. There are no differences of caste and race which make people different in their value. We are all one humanity, formed out of God's one earth. [...] The Bible says an unequivocal 'No' to every kind of racism, to every division of the human race.

(Joseph Ratzinger/Benedikt XVI: Berührt vom Unsichtbaren, Freiburg im Breisgau 2000/2005, p. 61)

Pope Pius XI on Anti-Semitism, September 1938

Mark well that in the Catholic Mass, Abraham is our Patriarch and forefather. Anti-Semitism is incompatible with the lofty thought which that fact expresses. It is a movement with which we Christians can have nothing to do. No, no, I say to you it is impossible for a Christian to take part in anti-Semitism. It is inadmissible. Through Christ and in Christ we are the spiritual progeny of Abraham. Spiritually we are all Semites.

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What is your point there? Most catholics don't even care and/or agree about what you are posting

Paul VI on Nationalism and Racism
berkleycenter.georgetown.edu/quotes/paul-vi-on-nationalism-and-racism

Haughty pride in one's own nation disunites nations and poses obstacles to their true welfare. It is especially harmful where the weak state of the economy calls for a pooling of information, efforts and financial resources to implement programs of development and to increase commercial and cultural interchange. [...] Racism is not the exclusive attribute of young nations, where sometimes it hides beneath the rivalries of clans and political parties, with heavy losses for justice and at the risk of civil war. During the colonial period it often [... gave] rise to bitterness in the wake of genuine injustices. It is still an obstacle to collaboration among disadvantaged nations and a cause of division and hatred within countries whenever individuals and families see the inviolable rights of the human person held in scorn, as they themselves are unjustly subjected to a regime of discrimination because of their race or their color.

>idolatry triggers the protestant

>idolatry
How come?

Catholics are too brain dead to realize they are falling for jewish psyops? Got it.

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If anything the West has thrived and lived on a Jewish Psyop, also if you had studied most fascist movements, like Nazism, you would realize that most of them are Paganist and a threat to the every Virtue the west built itself on

Reminder that communist philosopher Fredrich Engels compared Christianity to Marxism

The history of early Christianity has notable points of resemblance with the modern working-class movement. Like the latter, Christianity was originally a movement of oppressed people: it first appeared as the religion of slaves and emancipated slaves, of poor people deprived of all rights, of peoples subjugated or dispersed by Rome. Both Christianity and the workers' socialism preach forthcoming salvation from bondage and misery; Christianity places this salvation in a life beyond, after death, in heaven; socialism places it in this world, in a transformation of society. Both are persecuted and baited, their adherents are despised and made the objects of exclusive laws, the former as enemies of the human race, the latter as enemies of the state, enemies of religion, the family, social order. And in spite of all persecution, nay, even spurred on by it, they forge victoriously, irresistibly ahead. Three hundred years after its appearance Christianity was the recognized state religion in the Roman World Empire, and in barely sixty years socialism has won itself a position which makes its victory absolutely certain.

— Friedrich Engels, On The History Of Early Christianity, Die Neue Zeit, Vol. 1, 1894-95

Literally all leftist movements to be somewhat credible had to study the cultural base of the West to thrive on my friend. If you honestly believe what Engels wrote, it basically means that you believe in Marxism therefore you are a commie

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Except it hasn't retard. Christianity didn't make Europe any better, Europeans themselves did. By your logic half of Africa wouldn't be such an utter shithole because the people there are also Christian.

Imagine a modern crusade on Jerusalem. It would be epic.

>if you read what Engels wrote then you're a commie
How do you achieve this level of brainlet?

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>Christianity didn't make Europe any better, Europeans themselves did.
So you honestly think that the Catholic church didn't have any cultural influence over Europe in 2018 years?

You are quoting it as if you believe that what is written is true, therefore you honestly believe that Engels is a credible source, like most communists do. If anything the only logical conclusion I can take is that you are indeed a communist for believing the logic that Engels is presenting

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No I think it's beautiful

It's hard to argue with people who are stupid and uneducated.
I'll give you the following list of Catholic Church documents for you to read, after which you can give your opinion, which is bullshit, by the way.

Here are some encyclicals for you to start studying. I very much doubt you do this because you Americans and Canadians do not seem to like reading very much.

Quanta Cura
Quod Apostolici Muneris
Diuturnum
Graves de Communi Re
Notre Charge Apostolique
Divini Redemptoris
Quadragesimo Anno
Pacem in Terris
Le Rhin se jette dans le tibre (This is not an encyclical. It's a book. To save your time go straight to page 273)
Centesimus Annus

No, Europe achieved success because of Europeans themselves. if anything religion has only hindered them.
unamsanctamcatholicam.com/history/historical-apologetics/79-history/596-scientists-executed-by-the-catholic-church.html
Of course Engels is a credible source retard, he's one of the founders of Marxism of which communists today look up to and in his eyes Christianity and communism are interchangeable.

Africa is a shole because they don't have very many Christians. Do your research. It's mostly Muslim. Also Africa is 20% Atheist.

Not to forget village animism cults.

Thats because she is the greatest example of humility among the creation and wishes to be hidden, and God grants her this wish as much as possible. Thus the Alma Mater title.

>rejects the catholic church influence over Europe
>Of course Engels is a credible source retard, he's one of the founders of Marxism of which communists today look up to and in his eyes Christianity and communism are interchangeable.
Why do you keep on LARPing as fascist, when you are clearly a commie my friend? You can show your true colors, I mean I know that communists and fascists are pretty similar, but you are taking to whole new level

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You psyops work hard

What is your agenda to trigger someone. What goes around truly comes around fren

LOVE is the WAY

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Reminder

"So when you see standing in the holy place 'the abomination that causes desolation,' spoken of through the prophet Daniel--let the reader understand-let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains."

"These most crafty enemies have filled and inebriated with gall and bitterness the Church, the Spouse of the Immaculate Lamb, and have laid impious hands on her most sacred possessions. In the Holy Place itself, where has been set up the See of the most holy Peter and the Chair of Truth for the light of the world, they have raised the throne of their abominable impiety, with the iniquitous design that when the Pastor has been struck, the sheep may be scattered"

"I saw again the strange big church that was being built there in Rome. There was nothing holy in it.
Then my Heavenly Spouse bound me as He Himself had been bound to the pillar, and He said: 'So will the Church yet be bound. She will be tightly bound before she shall again arise."

Yes, pictures and paintings of Nimrod with his mother are offensive to me as a Christian. Especially since they founded Babylon and they had an incestuous relationship. Keep calling it "Mary holding Jesus", if it helps you sleep at night. Why are there so many pedos in the Catholic church btw?

Most Holy Theotokos save us!

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Get out of religion and into Jesus' love

Jesus' love is everywhere including Virgin Mary pictures, therefore you could use them to get in touch with the Holy Trinity

40-45% of Africans are Christians.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Africa

>everyone I disagree with is a communist
Why would I be LARPing as a fascist when most of them were anti-christian?

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Brothers I'm telling you the division and hatred are a serious detriment to your soul we are one on Christ Jesus

My friend, you are literally quoting ENGELS as a credible source regarding Christianism, do you understand how pathetic that sounds?

Sure man, I believe that Mary is the Mother of Jesus and if you venerate her for the purpose, then yeah

>this much denial
Engels is a credible source regarding Marxism retard and he compared his movement to that of Christianity

And? This has nothing to do with what Engels wrote. I never made the claim that the Catholic Church supported communism, so you really aren't proving anything.

>unamsanctamcatholicam.com/history/historical-apologetics/79-history/596-scientists-executed-by-the-catholic-church.html
>like five dudes, and one Egyptian chick
>forgets that the survival of literacy in europe as well as 99% of the tech innovations

Not to mention the fact that you put up a spource without realizing that it actually contradicts your point (ie it actually states that none of them were killed because of their scientific views, and most were not scientists anyways. Its a Catholic source FFS)

Soon says the lord, don't ask me when. HE wont say. 10 years? 2 weeks? 100 years? I don't know. God's timeline is not ours. But soon 177777777

So because he is a credible source regarding Marxism he is also a credible source regarding Christianism? You honestly believes in Engels to the point of believing his points stands beyond Communism, I mean even in Communism people literally think that Marx/Engels is an outdated source my friend
>confusion tactics
>backpedaling
Okay, you are truly a communist, GTFO faggot, I've dealt too much with your kind to spot one that easy. If anything it truly shows the current state of Jow Forums. You guys are truly afraid of Conservatism and Christianity

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Prots do suck tho, Juan. You must not know enough of them.

Good, do you also believe the 7 holy sacraments are needed for the state of Grace and Salvation of the Soul?

Christ is needed. Christ also said that unless you eat his flesh and drink his blood you would suffer eternal fire. Its his option to make exceptions if he wants, I guess. He is God you know.

How is venerating images, such as Our Lady of Guadalupe, not idolatry?

I will say that I do not have the adequate knowledge of the 7 sacraments. But I Know that Jesus lives and is the only way to salvation and redemption. He bled for us, all of us. Everyone

I do not know if you have any kind of delay or are joking with me. In any case it is not worth discussing.

We should be teaming up instead of arguing with each other desu

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venerating an image is not idolitry

>So because he is a credible source regarding Marxism he is also a credible source regarding Christianism?
Yes, because he's comparing Marxism to Christianity.
>I mean even in Communism people literally think that Marx/Engels is an outdated source my friend
Except they don't.
>backpedaling
Except I'm not. I never made the claim that the Catholic Church was pro-communist, it was however pro-jewish, anti-racialist and anti-nationalist especially in recent times.

Daily reminder that popes are not politicians and that their political teachings, if they do not possess the notes of infaillibility, can be questioned if they are contrary to what seems to be correct for your country (because the situations are different depending on the country; also you should follow the teachings of St Thomas Aquinas on politics, which has been advised by tenth of popes)

Idolatry: the worship of idols
Veneration of Icons
worship of idols

We dont worship them, we recognize them as symbolizing someone who is holy, who we also do not worship, so it cannot be idolatry because we dont worship them.

this.
the universe is just god experiencing itself

>Christ also said that unless you eat his flesh and drink his blood you would suffer eternal fire.
Well that is the purpose of the Eucharist
Idolatry means the worship of a physical object as a god. Catholics don't worship Mary appearances as God themselves, but more of a way of getting in touch with the virtuous path of the Divine. If you believe that correlating an image to God means false worshiping then the simple fact of associating a Holy Church or anything with God in your mind means that you are false worshiping. God is everything, including images, therefore you can correlate any real thing towards God, as everything is God

I'm not joking. I never made the claim that the Catholic Church was ever pro-communist

She is found throughout the bible if you know anything about typology.

*>forgets that the survival of literacy in europe as well as 99% of the tech innovations*came from the monastaries*

oops forgot that

He also left his apostles and and they appointed successors here to help us come closer to him. Did you know that user?

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who told you that? pastor heehaw at the ole hail bail Baptist church?

>Yes, because he's comparing Marxism to Christianity.
Ah yes, the Authority of Christianity called Engels!
>Except they don't.
Oh so now you know everything about Communism?
>Except I'm not.
I mean that you are backpedaling in rejecting prime sources about Christianity by claiming that "This has nothing to do with what Engels wrote" when it has EVERYTHING about what Engels tried to write about

Uhm, the Catholic Church told him that. The first pope was an apostle
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Peter

this

Do you not know what a bishop is?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacraments_of_the_Catholic_Church

This. I'm a protestant and I'm genuinely curious about catholics/orthodox and their beliefs. I've never understood the whole praying to mary/confessional thing/the black clothing and all that. I never saw anything in the NT about that stuff.

End of the day though we all believe in Jesus. Pls get along

catholicstrength.com/tag/mary-and-old-testament-typology/

>the Authority of Christianity called Engels!
Who compared Christianity to Marxism

Since you sperg so much about Engels...

>All the believers were together and had everything in common. Selling their possessions and goods, they gave to anyone as he had need. (Acts 2:44-45, NIV)

>All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of his possessions was his own, but they shared everything they had. With great power the apostles continued to testify to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus, and much grace was upon them all. There were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned lands or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales and put it at the apostles’ feet, and it was distributed to anyone as he had need.

>Joseph, a Levite from Cyprus, whom the apostles called Barnabas (which means Son of Encouragement), sold a field he owned and brought the money and put it at the apostles’ feet. (Acts 4:32-37, NIV).

Gee, sounds pretty lefty to me!!

>Oh so now you know everything about Communism?
No, but I know that Marxists don't disregard the works of Engels/Marx otherwise they wouldn't call themselves Marxists retard.

>I mean that you are backpedaling in rejecting prime sources about Christianity by claiming that "This has nothing to do with what Engels wrote" when it has EVERYTHING about what Engels tried to write about
Except Engels wasn't referring to the Catholic Church during the 19th century, he was referring to the early days of Christianity. Not backpedalling at all because I never said the catholic Church institution had a pro-communist viewpoint.

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The heavenly father created the universe. Jesus is the heavenly father. Jesus is the creator. Why the fuck do you inferior males always gotta worship the pussy. I guess when you're an inferior male you chase the pussy cuz the pussy don't chase you.

So if the heavenly father created the universe, that means he also created Mary, therefore to worship Mary is basically to worship God. The wrong thing is to assume she is God, which catholics don't do it

yes I have read the bible extensively, and understand that peter is the rock

this...
I mean, there are all kind of godless freaks and followers of false prophets out there

so very Christian of you, this is poison for your soul...they call it spelling for a reson

Protestants created shitlibs therefore their interpretation of Scripture is invalid.

The Bible clearly says not to put women on a pedestal.

>Gee, sounds pretty lefty to me!!
Well if you haven't got a brain and can't derive context from it, it sure does
>No, but I know that Marxists don't disregard the works of Engels/Marx otherwise they wouldn't call themselves Marxists retard.
HURR DURRRRRRRRR, Marxists call themselves Marxists because he was the one that initiated the movement you fucktard
>Except Engels wasn't referring to the Catholic Church during the 19th century, he was referring to the early days of Christianity. Not backpedalling at all because I never said the catholic Church institution had a pro-communist viewpoint.
THEN WHAT THE FUCK IS THE BEGINNING OF YOUR POST YOU FUCKTARD? GTFO YOU HUMAN TRASH, YOU CAN'T FOOL ME YOU FUCKING COMMIE

Sure, she is subservant to her father then husband

>all bishops are equal
>Christ is the head of the church
>this kills the "every Christian is catholic" argument

Why you posted this coin, retard?

Yup

To trigger people like you

Once you understand the typology of Mary you'll be woke and never go to a protestant church again.

but equal in the eyes of God

Equality is a myth.

Everyone being equal by God's eyes, doesn't mean that everyone should be equal, but more like that everyone is equal despite their differences

Idk, senpai. All babies look the same to me.

No, it is not we are all created equal and sons or daughters of the creator. God doesn't discriminate

All niggers look alike to me