How do we deal with the SSRI menace?

How do we deal with the SSRI menace?

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Don't take them.

which ones are you guys on?
I'm on venlafaxine/effexor

Micro-dose hallucinogens instead.

That's an SNRI

Same. I'm on 150 mg for about 3 months now.

>fucks brain up even more with some sort of psychosis, derealization, or schizophrenia

But they're constantly pushed by the pharmaceutical industry, psychiatrists, and mental health experts.

It SUCKED getting off of that shit

Actually psilocybin has been shown to be an effective treatment for depression.

Cut them off and film it

Thats why I said micro-dose you imbecile.

Dont attack ssri drugs while simultaneous defending adhd drugs Amphetamines
Inb4 muh hitler took them, prove it

If they don't help you just stop taking them

Wouldn't recommend just stopping cold turkey.

see

doesn't seem to be a difference in feel, I used to be on zoloft for 3 years.

baaased, we out here poppin zombie pills like good boys

You’re not taking my Prozac away from me kys

Fuck prozac
I was on that shit at an age where I could pop a boner just cuz some girl bumped in to me, after getting on those, I suddenly turn into a 50 year old man.

True. I have zero sex drive I can’t even cum anymore but it’s all worth it

SSRI's are dangerous imo. A high percentage of mass shooters were on them at the time of an attack.

That's cause its for both serotonin and norepinephrine reuptake

Do you think it's better than SSRIs?

Tough shit, it will be taken from you and then you will be the one killing themselves.

5-HTP supplement is superior in every way.

Just take them, goy.
You'll think everything is A-OK again.
Embrace it.
Be sure and take them at the exact same time everyday to keep your dosage steady, we wouldn't want you seeing the world as it really is.

One thing's for sure, we've got to take them out of the hands of GPs. IMMEDIATELY.
That's the main deal with that class of psych meds., they'll let a PA prescribe them.

It essentially does the same thing as an ssri, the norepinephrine is essentially for energy, commonly prescribed when someone says they have low motivation/energy

ssris don't mess with your view of the world. ssris are most effective at treating ocd and obsessive thoughts, people with ocd (me) get much higher doses than those prescribed for depression. it basically helps balance something in my brain that makes it send the same thoughts to me over and over. much better on the meds

first we deal with the kikes peddling the shit and all other issues melt away

>got hit by a car when I was 9
>broke my leg and blacked out when I was hit because I whacked my head on the street
>shortly after, start getting sick at night
>feel dizzy, throw up, etc.
>family doc thinks it's a chemical imbalance
>prescribes me Paxil
>stopped feeling sick at night after about 2 weeks
>fast forward 15 years
>on Paxil the entire time
>learn chemical imbalance isn't proven to be real
>every time I tried to get off of Paxil it was hell
>I'm 99.99% sure my dizziness was from a concussion
>can't join the military EVER because their faggot rules against antidepressants, even though I had no say in the matter
Such shit. I've been off Paxil for 9 days now. Done with that shit. I feel fine...I heard it takes months sometimes. Besides the occasional head zap I feel the same as when I was on them. I'm so pissed I can't join the military.

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I'm prescribed for depression and shit. Do you think I should raise my dosage if I still have repetitive behavior? I have weird autistic behavior of liking to repeat things

Seek a therapist who specializes in ocd treatment, simple as that

Without prozac I'm agitated and angry to the point of being non functional. It's either this or wall up in my room the be NEET for life. I'm angry to the point of wanting to cause global warming to make the world population drop.

Except without them I feel like making the world burn and punishing it. I take these for your benefit. It's either this or severe misanthropy to the point of being non functional.

Micro dose psilocybin. Once the corporations stop making money off their products and move to natural remedies and stop banning plants, maybe mental health will get better.

Source? I am asking legitimately.

nice meme. you get a tolerance to that shit baka

I'd say the brain zaps and the nausea were the worst parts for me. Losing insurance temporarily and being forced off of them is a real bitch when you're trying to work full time. Never went back on them afterwards, but I can definitely say they helped a lot with stabilizing mood. Lows felt less low, but highs felt less high.

I take an older drug called Desipramine and I have the exact opposite probably; it's like being in middle school again.
At least it takes me a long time to finish and I nobodies complained about that. Just being sore the next day.

But I still just want to die most days and just tolerate existence.

I know one of the big warnings with starting SSRIs is that it might make people more prone to suicide at first. Iirc it's because it can give someone just enough motivation to actually go through with it, but not enough to actually fix their issues. I'm also of the belief that some people will go postal instead of just quietly becoming an hero, so I suspect there's a link. It would be interesting to see some research on it.

What if you take SSRIs because you felt postal before taking them and it gets rid of your anger?

Unless they're physically forcing it down your throat (like in an involuntary commital), you can choose what to take and not take. You don't have to take them even if prescribed. But be honest with the doctor about your expectations. At the same time, the doctor may choose to not keep you as a patient if you aren't willing do so either. Everyone has choices here.
If you're seeing a competent psychiatrist, their office should also contain a psychologist and another therapist (possibly a social worker). You should be working with all of them for your treatment. That includes changes in your lifestyle (stop drinking, drugs, start exercising and eating better) as well as other things.
If you're male, you should make every effort and insistence to see a male therapist, though there are many competent female therapists, but they can often be more crazy themselves.
Fuck the pharmaceutical company, you have no direct relationship with them, and while they may push the physicians, a good MD/DO will use the right tool for the right job. Be involved in your own healthcare.

Everybody's brains are wired differently, so it takes a while to tinker around and find the right meds and dosage. I suggest being open with your symptoms/behaviors and also try to work on behavioral therapy to address the issue at both ends.

I feel the same way sometimes after quitting my SSRIs, but to a lesser degree to where it's manageable without meds. I suggest staying on what you're taking if it's bad enough that you can't control it without them. It's annoying knowing that our emotions can just shut down the logic parts of our brain and make us lose control, but it's a humbling reminder that we're still animals at our core.

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Stay on them. If you need them to be productive and happy, then don't be ashamed for being on them. We've reached a point where we can adjust our own brain chemistry to best suit our needs, so we might as well make use of it.

I know this might sound unrelated, but did you have anything traumatic in your childhood or even just an unstable household? I ask because I suspect things like that can stunt emotional growth and make our brains more inclined to emotion than logic as a defense mechanism to ensure continued survival of our species. It goes along with the hypothesis of unstable conditions creating people better able to fight for stability, while stable conditions allow us to better utilize functions of our brain that aren't as much needed for survival.

The only drugs you should ever take are illegal drugs, insulin, , l-theanine, and creatine.

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Tell people it's become money making corporation thing that doesn't give a fuck about people. It's fucking true. When I was on them over a decade ago they either didn't do anything or made me feel worse. The lady who gave me them didn't even tell me the side effects which were horrific.

That's not a source. That's an unverified list. Is there a research article this came from? There were about 11,000 gun related deaths in 2016 you have a list of ~40 people. Unless these 40 people killed 275ish people each then most murderer s aren't on ssris.
So I looked back before I posted this and realized you didn't post this toy question.....
And not all the meds are ssris and not all the samples are murders or mass murders. But I am high as balls right now and have decided to post this anyways.

Start a comprehensive drug testing program where drugs are approved by their results and safety, not how much $$$ the drug companies give to lobbyists.

Arrest Dr's for patient deaths, treat them like common drug dealers. Invoke the death penalty in the Western World for this reason, but also for rapists, murderer's, etc.

Invoke fines that would cripple the drug companies to the stone age for negligence, knowingly causing harm and death.

NONE of this will ever happen. The drug companies need clients, & they need a gov't to "regulate" them, and there in lies the cycle. There is too much money being made by the lobby co's, drug co's, and Dr.'s that they would rather have people die and occasionally pay fines, than operate in a safe way for their clients, us.

Entheogens

this x100000

all i took was 200ug and i've had really bad derealisation/depersonalisation for almost 5 months, i'm getting better at grounding myself mentally but that shit is so real and barely any of these psychedelic advocates talk about it because they are new age hippy faggots that think it unlocks some greater mode of consciousness

smoke a dick

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prescribe real stimulants instead. instant results.

>That's not a source. That's an unverified list.
Easily verified. Just look up the fucking names.
>There were about 11,000 gun related deaths in 2016 you have a list of ~40 people.
Most of those are related to organized crime. We're talking about mass shooting here.
Here's some more for you.
cchrflorida.org/antidepressants-are-a-prescription-for-mass-shootings/
latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-duwe-rocque-mass-shootings-mental-illness-20180223-story.html

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Read "Anatomy of an Epidemic".

It is worse than you can imagine.

> When they tested Prozac in dogs, some of the dogs went savage.

> When they give Prozac to young men, some of them go on mass shootings.

> Nearly all the mass shooters have been on mind bending pharmaceuticals.

No relationship between these facts.

dunno. i was put on welbutrin/paroxetine for 3 years or so. stopped welbutrin after 2 years, but kept taking paroxetine until i got off it 4-5 months ago. life has been a living hell. my anxiety is waaaaaay worse than it was before i took this crap. i can barely sleep and feel like im about to die all the time.

don't ever go on SSRIs.

Why do you have an image like that on your computer?
You some kinda sick fuck?

Speed stops working on kids after a while, as shown in studies.

Tolerance effect.

You then need to take it to be like you were before you even started taking it.

Yes. Where do you think you are?

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Yes. I had traumatic things happen to me in childhood. People think you can just will your emotional response away. It doesn't work like that.

>That's not a source.

Source: paying attention

When there's a mass shooting, check out if

> Single mother / divorce parents

> Mixed race / part (((people of the sheckel)))

> On SSRIs or similar

Every fucking time

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Just testing you.

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Did you have meme anxiety or normal nervousness? People that don't belong on these meds take them then tell people who need them to function to stop.

Realize its not medicine. Stop advertising it. They have lot of cons too. They really aren't magic pills, but they are great for stabilizing your emotions if all you have is misery. You will feel less joyful though, but it can be worth it for most, until you can get to a point where life isn't completely shitty anymore.

If you're going to take them, don't take them with the intention of staying on them permanently and of sitting on your ass and being "okay", use them as a stepping stone.

that would be better than most anti-depressants

zero carb carnivory

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This is such a disgusting lie. No one actually knows how these drugs even work and they do different things to everyone. Your taking a pill that will fuck random shit up in your head that's prescribed because its makes lots of people lots of money. For some people its worth the risk. But its just another drug that will fuck with your head and it seriously fucks lots of people up even worse.
>its just a magic pill that will make you happy and give you motivation why not take it when we understand are heads so perfectly we can just adjust them to be happy
fuck you jew

>Single mother / divorce parents
>Mixed race / part (((people of the sheckel)))
True, forgot about those.

You didn't cite where you got that information for all I know you where making it up. If I wasn't high as balls I would be cutting several research articles which state that most mass murderers have no history of mental illness and showed no signs of psychosis during the time of the attack. Also several of the incidents presented we're not mass murders but suicides or murder suicides. I actually have some good sources on this topic at my other home. Mass murders is quite an interesting topic.i did a whole class on it getting my degree. I like the theory that the mass murderers of today are the serial killers of yesteryear. I actually prefer studying serial killers. Usually there is more info on them because they don't go down in a blaze of glory. You can track them through the years of activity and hibernation. There is one serial killer Andrei Chikalito Who confessed to 56 murders. The investigation into him was stalled because he was a party member. But the police who tracked him down did an outstanding job.
Damn I need another hit.

Good luck out there.

The big problem with SSRIs and similar is that they allow people to avoid feeling the unacceptable feelings.

This allows them to stay stuck in the same place forever. I have seen this with my sister in law. She has been on SSRIs for 30 years and is getting worse. But even though she is worse than when she started she is hooked and would feel a lot worse (for maybe two years) if she stopped using.

But that is what she needs to do to deal with her shit.

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>People think you can just will your emotional response away. It doesn't work like that.
I wonder if there's a good way to get the average person to understand that. I didn't understand it until I had to deal with it personally and thought I could just do the whole "mind over matter" thing. Behavioral therapy can work for more minor issues, but that doesn't really do much if a person can't get stable enough to even be consistent with it.

I'm on 20mg of Lexapro, I don't feel fucking shit besides being exhausted.

I got off 4 weeks of Prozac since it wasn't doing shit as well.

Weed seems to help.

Is this normal?

You don't have shit. It is a fact that most mass shooters have been on psychotropics. Serial killers are a different breed altogether.

>I would be cutting several research articles which state that most mass murderers have no history of mental illness

When you get back to your wife's boyfriend's place would you please post the links.

I also studied criminology.

What is your opinion of the cause of the increase in mass shootings, even as the overall rate of murders has fallen?

Have you had success on this?

I was put on antipsychotics and it ruined my life. SSRI are gummy bears in comparison

>No one actually knows how these drugs even work
We have a pretty good amount of data on how they affect brain chemistry
>and they do different things to everyone
Everyone's brain chemistry is different and we can't know exactly how what works until we try. Yeah it's a pain in the ass currently, but the more data is collected, the more we can refine our methods.
>because its makes lots of people lots of money
Someone helps you fix your brain, you pay them money. If it doesn't work, stop buying the product.
>its just a magic pill that will make you happy and give you motivation why not take it when we understand are heads so perfectly we can just adjust them to be happy
We know it's not perfect, but it's a work in progress. Some people need meds to be functional; some don't. Unstable environments create unstable people, so it's better to stabilize unstable people to help prevent creating more unstable environments for others.

Jesus that sucks man. Giving that shit to kids is just wrong.

Really prove it.

I think that some people are just predestined (not saying god or whatever) to be killers. In the past it was easier to get away with. Most people were just soldiers or mercenaries or bandits or whatever. You can also see this in a smaller sense in the military firefighter s and police. There is a bit of psychopathy. Some people have just enough to be willing to put their lives at risk while still having a moral code. Some people are in-between this and true psychopaths. Now I could be totally wrong I am not a psychologist. So over time these people became serial killers who as technology advanced and cameras became more mainstream made serial killing harder. Mean iq for seial killers is slightly Bellow average. I think they couldn't handle trying to be serial killers in this environment. This and how the media gives them so much attention makes mass murders more appealing. Plus people now adays care more about immediate satisfaction. Which is what mass murders gives.
However most mass murders are gang related so I blame the war on drugs for that.
That's just my opinion.
Also nigga my flash drive of sources is in my summer home in CT I'm in my winter home in Florida. I ain't letting no thot cuck me and take my money.
What would is your opinion on your question?

Did your sex drive go down

Kill you local (((psychiatrist)))

Take your meth dealer to prom.

If you take away my meds you give me food and shelter because I’m too low functioning to remain employed without them.

So your saying that crazy fuckers were seen by mental health providers? Holy fucking shit batman hold the phone.

>antipsychotics
So happy I dodged this bullet. I was prescribed risperidone and said fuck that after my awful experience with SSRI's. Shit gave me permanent tinnitus, PE, difficulty concentrating and even worse anxiety after quitting. Don't know if I'll ever get back to normal but it's still better than living on those brain dead drugs.