So not gonna lie, I really dislike Trump and generally lean liberal. But I want to know, please let me know that things will turn out well. I know you guys think that what is going on, is best for America. So how? In general what I am concerned about is:
>how Trump seems to be destroying our relationships with allied countries, like those in Western Europe and Canada >an incoming authoritarianism and surveillance >less free internet and general way of life. the fact that abortion might not still be legal terrifies me and it scares me that trump constantly attacks the media
In general I want to live in a free and liberal country. Should I be concerned? Do you genuinely think Trump will make us more free and better off?
You are the problem. Trump saved the economy and almost certainly your financial situation greatly improved (along with almost everyone else in the country who is honest and productive) yet you still don't like him because muh media spin.
No it won't be alright unless you rally to the President.
Jesus christ, user. Trump isn't the cause of America's downfall. How do you get to be this dense?
Gavin Davis
I have no opinion either way on Trump, but why do most of the Trump supporters I hear sound like they're part of a cult? Even if you support him, can't you also critique and let others critique him? Places like The_Donald are circlejerks constantly, it's creepy. What happened to being the 'rebels'?
Gavin Perez
>>how Trump seems to be destroying our relationships with allied countries, like those in Western Europe and Canada
He's a blowhard to enemies and for the media, but those who actually deal with him in person and treat him with respect always come out well. He just doesn't take shit off anyone. Why wouldn't you want this in a leader? NK and SK are disarming their DMZ now for example. The media just picks up his overblown rhetoric style and uses it to terrify everyone since they are all in the tank for the DNC.
>>an incoming authoritarianism and surveillance
You're a fool if you thought Barry was any different than George Bush on this and the Uniparty has been wholeheartedly in favor of it since 9/11 at least. Trump at least has a chance of rejecting it after the way he himself got spied on. Pic most definitely related.
>>less free internet and general way of life. the fact that abortion might not still be legal terrifies me and it scares me that trump constantly attacks the media
Again the people that want this are firmly on the LEFT NN is a leftie communist dream, Google is building a second Internet they can keep censored for China, which will help with their "credit score for political compliance" (just like we are starting to use blue check marks and mob justice for internet bolshevism here), the TPP and the general trend is to hand controls over to them anyway like DNS authoritative servers.
>Abortion
Abortion should be made illegal since it promotes eugenics. Once human life is devalued no other human right is respected which we see constantly on the left shitting on free speech, right to bear arms etc. You have control over your body when you choose to use birth control. You do not have the right to end another's life. It's a slope lubed with vaseline and hopefully in the future the tears of all those that think it is ok to murder infants in the womb.
>Google is building a second Internet they can keep censored for China, which will help with their "credit score for political compliance"
Oh and by the way, facial recognition tech is linked to street cams now in China, which will be linked to this system soon.
Imagine the fun of having the wrong political opinion and being locked up in dissident jail after losing your job after you get clocked not via your identity on Twitter but by your face. That's coming in China, and we'll be soon to follow suit if leftism keeps going the way it currently is.
Think hard about what you're actually being told by the media.
and you dont think Trump or the GOP has these same wishes
Isaiah Thompson
Are you memeing or did you tell yourself that for so long, maybe as a joke, that you now fully believe it? Regardless, most trump supporters now seem to be creepily loyal to him. Even if you love what he's doing, blindly defending absolutely everything and rejecting even the smallest critique is literally cult behavior.
Grayson Jenkins
I honestly can't tell you. I can tell you I would know if it was truly rejected.
I can tell you the status quo is being maintained as it was through Bush -> Barry.
I can tell you I see one politician spending personal time with the plebs every chance he gets, and most of the rest of them talking about us in the abstract.
Jose Perez
Are you an idiot? This isn't a matter of left vs. right, this is a matter of people with too much power, which is left AND right.
Nathan Clark
>an incoming authoritarianism and surveillance
Please, tell me more.
Elijah Edwards
>now
Alexander James
No, it won't. America was a mistake.
Luis Hall
The libertarians and Trump are way more aligned than authoritarian top down leftist control freaks.
Jason Taylor
no. everything is fucked. and it all happened before the great Orange Satan appeared.
Chase Roberts
It's an issue because the left in America has completely abandoned its anti-corporatism. You NEVER see "Bay area antifa" attacking Google's campus, as opposed to random irrelevant people trying to watch a Milo talk or something. You NEVER see them protesting at the homes of surveillance firm executives. It's pathetic.
Dylan Walker
Trump has demonstrated a marked difference from the Uniparty that came before. Traditional GOP were against him.
Kayden Ramirez
No, I'm loyal to my leader. That is a very white thing to be. It is very jewish to always critique and deconstruct everything. You're either a jew or someone so marinated in jewery that you think like one.
Alexander Powell
>It's an issue because the left in America has completely abandoned its anti-corporatism. You NEVER see "Bay area antifa" attacking Google's campus, as opposed to random irrelevant people trying to watch a Milo talk or something. You NEVER see them protesting at the homes of surveillance firm executives. It's pathetic.
This guy gets it.
Jordan Davis
You sound like a brainwashed fool but ok
Logan Watson
Not being able to murder babies terrifies me.
Levi Jenkins
free or liberal
Pick one can't be both.
Parker Nguyen
Now now, don't hyperbolize the leftist position unfairly. What you really mean is:
>taking any responsibility for my life terrifies me
Nathan Flores
It’s called enthusiasm. They are the rebels, the entire world has turned soft communism. Give up more and more freedom for an illusion of safety.
If you faggots stopped replying to these threads they wouldnt be here. Cuckchan is a shit.
We get herded into digital ghettos and then the fuckers just annoy us here and you retarded bitches entertain them. You're all very weak people. Sad. Sad and pathetic.
Joseph Cooper
>an incoming authoritarianism and surveillance Are you like 14 years old? Every president has been increasing surveillance powers since WWII. This has only accelerated since 2001 with the Patriot Act. Obama expanded these programs. To-date I don't recall a single accusation against Trump on this topic, just more hyperbolic stuff like "he's going to kill us all" etc. The good news is, while Trump might be rich and have some additional options, the fact it's taking them this long to dig up dirt on him in regards to Russia (still waiting if there's anything in the bag) should come as a reassurance that it's pretty hard to spy on someone well if you are mindful.
Wyatt Peterson
Actually, we Trump voters are literal Nazi's. We hate liberals, queers and think hand maidens are a wonderful idea. I advise you flee to Mexico where it is safe for gays.
Luke Foster
freaks
Bentley Sanchez
Give this man a greencard
Jacob Cook
this it's over and it's been over since 1965
Aaron Baker
Trips O’truth, laddie.
Landon Smith
This, I'm ready to start executing everyone on the Left as well as traitors on the Right who would stab us in the back. No mercy.
John Sullivan
> I want to live in a free and liberal country fuck off to somalia then, WE, do not want you here and WE WILL KILL YOU IF YOU STAY, seditor
Samuel Scott
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We are in control of our own fate. We have a decision to make though...be freed or be enslaved. Those that want to enslave you want to make you feel as though to be enslaved is to be free and to be free is be enslaved. There are many in this country (and world) that do not have the ability to make that decision on their own. Our path to freedom is paved by a strong few who will refuse the enslavement, work to break us from it, educate a few and hope they will educate the masses. We are all a part of the puzzle.
Will we be "okay"? That depends. How many of your family and friends have you helped?
Have you defined "okay" for yourself? And I mean, truly for yourself? Have you painted yourself a picture of that a free society really is? Those that wish to enslave you want to paint that as a scary place...and for some that choose enslavement, it IS a VERY scary place because it entails each person taking on complete personal responsibility for their lives. Those that wish to enslave you will make their enslavement "easy". It will be very, VERY easy to WANT to be enslaved. But once you are enslaved...that's it. You will not be able to function outside of the enslavement. By design mind you.
Think of the pillars of this country and what those that want to enslave you have done to it. Think about it...health care...education...energy...national pride...our morality...our ethics...our ability to defend ourselves...
What's "okay"? What's the world you want to live in? Remember...there are roughly 330 million people in this country...and we have have a different idea of what "okay" is.
Hudson Bell
Western Europe and Canada were never allies. Our relationships were that of parasitic ones and the USA was the host
Jaxon King
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Therefore in order to help everyone achieve what they believe is "okay", we have to give them the freedom to form that vision. And that's no short order. That's tough. That's fucking hard. Really fucking hard. Every INCH of the way, over and over again we must demand more of ourselves. More from each other. We must demand an everlasting vigilance and reject...with both a moral and logical authority AGAINST those that wish to enslave us. Every time there's a slip, it will be everyone's duty to regroup and reeducate and help each other. Not out of hate for the enemy...but out of love for each other.
This goes against our nature as humans though. Therefore...it will not be easy. Those that wish to enslave us have an excellent understanding of natural law and order. Because they have the power, it's easy to manipulate it. What's easy for them is hard for us to resist as slaves. But as free people...what is easy for us to resist...makes it harder for those who wish to enslave us. The harder we push back, the more difficult it is for them. It will be a constant battle. A war maybe. Occasionally fought with rifles...frequently fought in the minds and hearts.
It's not easy. There is no paradise. Nirvana is not for this earth. We all have one ride. We do not know what awaits us. I have no idea what awaits us...but I do know that I owe it to myself, my friends, and my family to work as hard as I can to help achieve freedom. Not because I hate my enemy...but because I love them. I want them to be free. I am tormented by thoughts of enslavement. I am tortured by how easily and readily some accept it. I am dumbfounded how people constantly vote against their best interests. I am an outsider because I do not have the ability to comprehend the mindset of a sheep. I simply do not relate. I can't. I'm not programmed that way. Therefore, I feel must fight back against the system that does not allow them to live free.
Camden Campbell
You're a globalist. Indoctrinated. You'll never understand.
Daniel Ward
research into the new world order, it's getting closer by the day
Josiah Sanchez
F
Michael Taylor
We're going to bury you in a mass grave.
Tyler Edwards
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To give any less that your best is to sacrifice the gift (Steve Prefontaine). I don't know if this is a gift I've been given. Maybe. I don't know. But I will use it to the best of my ability to help us be "okay".
These are issues far bigger than Trump. Far bigger than Dem vs Rep. Far bigger than right vs left. This is our evolution as a country, as a people, as humans.
Think about the last 30 years before 2016. Were things going "okay"? Look how far we fell from 2008 to 2016. That was an all out assault on our freedom as a people. We are not better off for any of it. And it's everyone's fault. We all have a role we've played.
Question is...now that there's a glimmer of hope...what role will you play in helping us be "okay"?
Will take the tough path and fight against enslavement? Or will you promote it, vote it, and spread it?
Remember...silence is consent.
Joseph Cooper
Going to assume this isn't bait
>how Trump seems to be destroying our relationships with allied countries This is only bad if those other countries are actually allies. We've spent a long time being the crutch of the world and these countries do not have any of our interests at heart. It's not even a give-and-take. It's only an attempt to strip mine USAs vital resources.
>an incoming authoritarianism and surveillance You're almost 20 years too late. The surveillance and authoritarianism is already in place and has been long before Trump was president. I want this to stop as well, but so long as social strife exists, there is a reasonable excuse to maintain it. This is part of why fixing our society is important so we have no excuses for that bullshit.
>less free internet and general way of life. Same as above. You've been losing your freedoms since you were born. Here's a hint; freedom is not granted to you, it is only earned through personal responsibility. Republicans are more pro-freedoms than Dems typically are. Trump seems to want to introduce some semblance of economic mobility. That's more than ANY establishment politician can say for the past 40+ years.
>the fact that abortion might not still be legal terrifies me Why? Safe sex isn't that hard. Again, freedoms cannot be granted to you. Nor can rights.
>scares me that trump constantly attacks the media Again; why? You say "the media", but the press is anyone who serves that purpose. "The media" are a bunch of for-profit liars and fear-mongers. They aren't there to inform you. They get paid to lie to you. Look up Operation Mockingbird. Trump doesn't attack actual independent media. He doesn't attack alt-media. He only attacks the people who are actively and wrongfully trying to discredit a duly elected official just because thier handlers dont like him.
>Do you genuinely think Trump will make us more free and better off? Yes. Not as much as I would want. But much closer than we were.
See it isn’t just critiqueing him when he fucks up. The media and the anti trumpets are 100% anti trump all the time. They NEVER give him credit for anything. So to counteract this, his supporters are unfailingly positive
>..silence is consent actually, in ancient rome, the silence of the crowd meant a staunch disapproval of whatever was being proposed or acted out only the cheering and fanfare of the crowd represented consent, and the romans had it right by that
Jason Davis
P.S. How in the fucking fuckity fuck fuck fucking FUCK FUCK...do you think we are dealing with a LESS free internet as the result of Donald Trump.
You should be doused with gas and set on fire for being that fucking stupid. I take it back. Those of us that will work to prevent enslavement don't want or need you.
While you're triggered now...name ONE piece of legislation that aims to ban abortion. One. ONE. Fucking one.
Wyatt Long
my my my, this is why you libs are hated
Aaron Myers
as soon as trump was elected that was when our country was on its true path to destruction
Owen Jenkins
No one wants to go hard on him because he’s already enduring the “resistance” and a 24/7 propaganda smear campaign from the “media” we hope he’s doing his best under the circumstances.
Andrew Morgan
Resurrection
John Parker
america will be mexico in 10 years max
congrats I guess you got what you wanted
Austin Price
You still can’t see that the jews are behind everything. Until you do, you’ll continue to waste space.
Isaac Sanders
its not trump that will end the us its demographics pushed by democrats you will live to see how huge parts of the western world turn into violent brazil tier ghettos and its all the fault of naive leftwing idiots that because of empty virtue signaling vote for the rope that will hang them. The dumbest and last generation the western world has ever shat out.
Dylan Richardson
And desu he has done pretty damn well. It’s nice having a Pres who is doing his damndest to secure our border
Jacob Roberts
True liberalism looks like Libertarianism and anarchy
Most liberals nowadays aren’t liberals. They’re socialists
Ayden Mitchell
why do you dislike trump, he has added more jobs for minorities, lowered taxes on the poor and raised median income. are you a fucking racist?
Joseph Cook
when your kind pushes civil war due to being cry babies, it wont end good for you.
Easton Lewis
you are a brainwashed liberal. someone had to tell you.
Luis Lee
This will not go well in the short term. Long term depends on the choice you make. To be safe for all eternity: A: Admit that you are a sinner, who violates the Will of God, and that you need a Saviour. B: Believe that Jesus Christ, Son of God & Messiah, died for you sins and rose again, as prophesied and recorded in the Word of God. Trust in His finished work. C: Call on His name, ask Him to save you, and confess that He is Lord.
Some resources that may help: TTB.org has a verse by verse Bible Study for download or daily listening. Chuck Missler’s Learn the Bible in 24 Hours (youtu.be/PZ3hESj__M8) Robert Breaker’s Bible Study and Topical Sermons (youtu.be/H124iZiyGUs)
It's not trump's fault hes trying but the reality is is this economy is still shit.
You cant say an economy is saved when your youth (60% women) is strapped with 1.5 trillion debt in loans and a rising credit card debt with rising default rates.
The only prosperity will come after ending the fed/moving to a free crypto and enduring initial hardship