Punk was always left-wing LGBT bullshit. It was primarily concerned with concepts such as pro working-class, egalitarianism, humanitarianism, anti-nationalism, anti-authoritarianism, anti-corporatism, anti-war, anti-racism, anti-sexism, gender equality, racial equality, civil rights, animal rights, disability rights, free-thought and non-conformity.
Who thinks that SJW is new? Nazi just like to subvert actual healthy ideas because they lack a functional platform themselves. Anti-capitalists preaching for pro-capitalist about ultranationalism for the proletarian freedom?
I thought punk was about straight up anarchism, meaning it's members come from any/all walks of life as long as they lived off the grid as much as possible.
Oliver Diaz
>satanism >black metal both are more serious about what they do when done by fascists
all of that shit is just counter culture. It was about anything specifically except rejecting the norm.
Jaxon James
"The cleverest trick used in propaganda against Germany during the war was to accuse Germany of what our enemies themselves were doing." -Goebbels
"He goes his way, sneaking into every people to hollow them out, using lies and slander, poisoning and disruption, intensifying the battle until the bloody extermination of his hated enemy.” -Hitler
Sebastian Morales
this. OP is a legit fucking idiot
Juan Carter
He's talking about leftists right?
Christian Jackson
Punk originated from a subculture who's beliefs were considered taboo at the time, but as the years have progressed, the left has taken over ideologically, The whole point of punk is supposed to be edgy, to be counter culture, which is why that (((alt-right))) punk song was so cringy. Punk is fascist now.
Aiden Bell
Yeah. It's certainly funny seeing what's supposed to be a rebellion against the system being shilled in favor of said system.
Joseph White
Have you not heard of RAC?
Blake Evans
Fascists CREATE culture, not steal it. Every organic cultural movement comes from a resistance against the system that keeps that culture suppressed.
Rap culture is black fascism, and it's so popular right now because it's the only culture that's allowed to say "fuck the system" without punishment.
Left wing culture is inorganic. It's analytical, lab-grown, classroom dissected critique of existing, organic culture. It's like a parasite, it has to have a preexisting problem to dissect in order to exist and spread.
Even our American media is just an example of Jewish fascism. American jews can create an entertainment culture made in their image. Fascism and culture go hand in hand
Gavin Jenkins
Communists think all anarchists are also communists
Justin Lopez
Yeah I know about Rock against Communism, but I was more talking about the subculture, rather than just the music.
no it wasn't, faggots only took it over in the late 80s
Charles Green
How many times are you going to post this stupid shit? You've already posted it twice. Stop spamming.
Sebastian Fisher
Don't let Jews have satanism. Jews steal cultures, infiltrate movements & try to creep into anything they can. Don't let them have anything.
What fucking world are these people living in?
Lucas Walker
>steal cultures, infiltrate movements & try to creep into anything they can Remind you of anyone?
Ryan Roberts
>all that projection
Its ridiculous how much the left tries to pin their bullshit onto others.
Brody Hughes
Skinheads traditionally were anarchist but also nazi. They listened to punk and ska. The whole scene was basically just cringelords trying to be edgy by being against anything mainstream and sticking it to "the man". Now they are "the man".
Eli Mitchell
Communists think, or claim to think that socialism will lead to something like anarchy.
Kevin Long
I lived in Thailand for 3 months. "Fascism" is actually pretty awesome.
>daddy's money ideology insists traditionalism steals culture you triple nigger, don't you dare even open your coddled mouth until your ideology builds, from scratch, one (1) single civilization literally E V E R everything you have, everything you are, everything you think and enjoy is only possible because of the exertions of people who believed in an ideology that is everything you hate in the world sage
Robert Reed
Why did they kill Ian Stuart?
Camden Thompson
>1 post by this ID am I surprised? No. am I disturbed about the amount of naive, gullible, degenerates that still comment on such threads because they're just too fucking stupid to spot slide/bait threads? yes, but also not surprised.
Wrong, the smart ones regard anarchists as their useful idiots, e.g. Nestor Makhno.
Adrian Diaz
>Fascists are operating like jews now >Stop it right now goyim!
Jason Nelson
“Punk” means prison faggot. It’s literally a limp waisted psyop. Not only that but it’s generally amusical and just irritating to the ear. Awful.
Jack Collins
The only reason "fascists" take shit is because everyone runs scared when anything gets associated with us
Zachary Jones
>left wing >pro working class
Hahahahahaha
Jayden Clark
Absolutely wrong. Punk was full of masculine angry people who hated hippies and faggots and stupid PC losers.
Jonathan Kelly
This, all the messages and politics aside punk sucks ass as a genre. It shouldn't even exist since jazz is a genre.
Jayden Gray
When was Norse culture ever leftard? They had strict classes, practiced slavery, used homosexual men as bitches, killed anyone who resisted them and were generally martial and masculine. Marvel has a lot to answer for.
Jackson Gomez
Dude, vicious rocked a swastika just to rub his nuts in peoples faces. The PC culture of the left would shit if punk were as blatant and ballsy about its fuck you to everyone in general as it used to be. The Misfits were mostly Christians and edge lords, Joey Ramone was a Republican and all but ran the band, Darby Crash was a self proclaimed fascist. The Huns praised JFKs assassination ffs. Punks nothing more than teenagers looking to party and wear leather.
Stupid communist fucking idiot no it isn't. I present the real punk song of TRUTH Husker Du's "Data Control" this is the modern world thanks to your faggot ideals.
A multinational corporation A stockholder's dream A nightmare of diversity A defense system so supreme Too technical to talk about Too complex for layman's brains It's enough to make you paranoid Or drive you crazy losers sane
Liam Mitchell
You fuckers are the establishment. How to be a left wing anarchist >everyone dress similar >form the same ideas >read the same literature >attack anyone in the group with a dissenting idea >repeat the same talking points >and chant in unison Real anarchism right there fight the establishment.
Jayden Cook
they are dumb childish foot gangsters for multinational companies
Jordan Hernandez
why are these fucks trying to take anime
Kevin Morales
Has the day finally come? When people who just want to close borders are regarded as worse than the people who worship the fucking devil, and perform child sacrifices?
I want off this reality
Gavin Williams
>Satanism >literally survival of the fittest >respecting the natural order >this is somehow meant to be a leftist ideology Fuck these faggots and their politically-correct """black metal""".
For fucks sales, quit trying to claim things that are not yours like Norwegian black metal as your own. Black metal is rooted in fascism, it would be completely and wholly evident if you have ever actually listened to any. m.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk56_86u2d4
Isaiah Wood
but that is communist subverters not fascist.
Joshua Ortiz
Maybe you miss the 90's burger but I sure as hell don't hahaha. The Communists left in '93.
Samuel Murphy
Meanwhile socialism leads to fascism while freedom leads to capitalism and prosperity.
Beware of people who want to save the world, they first want to control it.
This is the problem with this post skepticist world. People are being skeptical about other skeptics who are known for promoting left wing ideals, giving the misconception that the right is now the counter culture. It's so interesting watching people go full circle and see people who identify as atheists, use the morality arguments of christians to denounce abortion - "I don't have to believe in God to know that killing a child is wrong."
The skeptic community on yt are oblivious to the most retarded right wing conspiracies of all but they love to be selective and pick off low hanging radicals SJWs feminazis.
Chase Nelson
>Why not both? That was literally the point of the post you retarded fucking leaf.
Christopher Stewart
>Who was Gang Green? >Who was Slapshot? >Who was DYS? >Who were the Cro-Mags? I can go on and on but you're just a faggot leftist who doesn't know anything about punk
Connor Scott
>Infiltrating existing hobbies and interests He's literally described what Communists and their fellow travelers have done to the west and it's institutions over the past 50 years.
The projection is fucking off the charts
Christian Phillips
So the left are confirmed fascists? Great!
Ian Parker
>pro working-class Now, that's right wing. >egalitarianism Right wing too.
You are getting old, but you can't stop change.
Michael Fisher
Trump doesn’t think about that retard.
Nathan Myers
It's all good dude.
Thomas Lewis
Being edgy is the norm now. The most counter culture thing you can do today is tucking your shirt in and not drinking or smoking.
punk never was right or far right. it always was anarchist, communist, nihilistic garbage. so, punk, black metal, satanism etc - i gladly leave this "culture" to the leftists as i would not ever want to associate myself with this. let them have this blasphemy jam, their sodomite activities, and all these ungodly things. KJV bible, paper, pencil is all I need. and those thibgs i know for certain that they will never want to touch or take from me
Owen Russell
Typical jewish projection.
Sebastian Myers
Having the exact same opinions as CNN is so punk rock
Angel Torres
The attempted Leftie take over of Black Metal is hilarious. Leftist politics and Black Metal can NEVER coexist. The Left is humanist; Black Metal is inherently anti-human. (pic semi-related)
It was the satanist that infiltrated the fascist though, not the other way around.
Lincoln Thompson
Black Metal began in Norway and those guys murdered homosexuals and burnt churches to the ground. I was not aware that Leftists were trying to take control of a genre that was built from antisocial behavior when Leftists are all about socialising themselves and everything around them.
Joseph Thompson
That is kind of true, but it was more a parody or satire on religion as form of fascism, that eventually that anything ironic eventually turns unironic on a long enough timeline.
Samuel Wood
How the fuck is Satanism left wing? It's edgy libertarianism, the "Satanic Bible" has tons of passages from Might is Right which is anti-humanist.
Hunter Nelson
This.
>I was a teenage dinosaur, stoned and obsolete, I didn't get fucked and I didn't get kissed, got some fucking pissed, USING MY HEAD FOR AN ASHTRAY.
That's a lot of things for them to be primarily concerned in.
Carter Wood
Except the Satanic Bible it's humanist. Like even so far to explicitly say it's humanist. The might is right ideas is in defence of yourself only, within reason. Most of it is not even talking about the physical, but is discussed as defence as in might as in intellect. The terms they use like 'destroy' doesn't imply you should dismember someone that insults you.
Henry Russell
I am relatively anti-establishment and my views are not Fascist. This is the problem with Leftists, they behave irrationally but from research done on the Bolsheviks it is not surprising. They had labels for people in order to work on methods of creating an antisocial atmosphere about them, alienating them, and then either killing them, imprisoning them, or exiling them. I don't think Leftism has changed much from this era and I am highly skeptical of anyone who still professes such ideologies with the information provided to them already. Being in opposition to a "Current regime" just means you are anti-establishment. The rest comes down to politics and propaganda. This is why I laugh at the very notion of Leftist punk rock because from the start they were always fighting for stronger central, multinational governments based on rule by fear and terror.
The only real exception to this is perhaps the band "Crass" but they were more pure anarchists who just hated all systems in general.
Adam Howard
Most people just think of the history of punk as the few bands that were popular. There's probably more punk bands that were never recorded, than were recorded, than any other music genre...
Ryan Jackson
>life scientifically begins at conception >murder is wrong Wow that was hard. Are you fucking retarded user? >the "skeptic community" is primarily right wing So yes. Yes you are fucking retarded.
James Evans
Also this is a very Communist style Tweet because it insists that the invisible enemy is infilitrating all assets of cultural engagements. The guy who Tweeted this is encouraging his followers to politically take control of culture in order to regulate it against perceived "Fascists" (and in the modern world even someone who says "I disagree with mass immigration" is a Fascist). Thus, this line of thinking is dangerous.
also punk was never always "anything". Here is the Angry Samoans for an example with a song that makes fun of faggots.
Henry Anderson
>The Left is humanist; Black Metal is inherently anti-human. That's highly debatable, but black metal is foremost politically incorrect. Trying to enforce some correct line of thought by banning black metal concerts is hilarious.
Luis Murphy
I just recalled that one of the first real Black Metal bands was called "Mayhem" and they have a long sleeve t-shirt with references to the SS Volunteer Division "Legion Norge"
I know you don't see yourself as a fascist, but the moment you want to overthrow the tyranny of democracy or socialism or whatever free government is in place now, what do you think will be left over? Go back to a Monarchy?
One of the most fundamental parts of fascism going back to Mussolini and Hitler is it's opportunism to exploit the fears of the public. Promise them whatever they want to appeal to their approval. It's better than communist at this point, because it's not some public sense of appeal, but the individuals greed.
More money in your pockets, more food on your table, more control against your enemies, more power for your family. Unfortunately it usually falls on someone else, they don't approve of this, and several bombing runs and beach stormings later the short term gains mean nothing.
Owen Thompson
>rap culture is black fascism holy shit you're right
OP doesn’t get punk at all. Not one bit, he’s given a boomer description. Zen time. I’ll explain without words why punk is just ours should we care to claim the heritage without even using words. Just pic related and this m.youtube.com/watch?v=rDyb_alTkMQ Get it? You have to watch it all.
These lines of thought pre-exist more modern intrepretations such as Mussolini and Hitler. In addition, Hitlerism was more based on a romantic Germanic ideal rather than something more core. Early Fascism pre-Mussolini was more interesting in my eyes, however, even early Mussolini was radically different than what he became after being influenced and then forced into WW2. This is why I don't care for those things because they also invaded and killed a lot of my people over fairytales.
But I don't need this to secure my state, people, and language. This does not promise anything.
Asher Morales
Nice Guy Fawkes mask avatar, certainly that wasn't the symbol of an authoritarian pro-Vatican terrorist who's goal was to blow up Parliament and destroy democracy
Wasn't Tupac Anti-Jew though? Ice-T was Anti-Reagan, and Cube even said shit about Jews in the music industry, but that ironic considering the movies he's doing now.
Exactly it’s our culture we’re not stealing it just take it back.
Jaxon Barnes
> Punk was always left-wing LGBT bullshit > this disillusion lmao nah you faggot, old school punks are still ready to be the shit out of gays > egalitarianism, anti-authoritarianism, anti-war these are the only right point you got on your list of nonsense
Zachary Butler
Except for all the signs of the enemy are still there. I can't believe you're on Jow Forums and think the fascist are just invisible? It's mixed in to the culture that anyone that you could point to, you could just as easily go, 'He's just joking'.
The dog whistles and subversion is the fascists number one priority to power. It's a defunct idea that is like a parasite that can only live by draining a host, that is suitably weak enough to be infected. Fundamentally ultranationalism is also anti-capitalism. There's no way to run a healthy nation without capitalism. It's one of the most effect forms of distribution of goods, the market place.
To become isolationist and still expect booming growth while being self contained is impossible, this is why isolation is a part of the marxist belief, from the very start because without capitalism you don't need the same sort of growth.
That failed too for the same anti-capitalist reasons. Just people think Fascism is pro-capitalism for some reason.
Cooper Bennett
This board needs a new rule. Anyone who starts a thread should be forced to show their flag. How can I engage in this discussion when I don't know who my opponent is? All of you should be ashamed of yourselves. Don't encourage this faggotry. Only a coward has to use a meme flag, so until you reveal yourself, fuck off.