Climate Change

Okay, Jow Forums, I understand a lot of your shit, but what reason could you possibly have to be so against accepting that climate change is a thing?
Literally why?
Even if the reality of the changes aren't as drastic as reported, what's wrong with taking care of the environment?

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As far as I know the actual discussion is what are the appropriate steps to dealing with climate change.

If we go with the insanely unscientific progressives, and assume we can create some sort of mythic earth that never existed with a perfect ecosystem then we would be wasting billions of dollars for no reason.

Secondly, if you ever bothered to read a book regarding the geological history of our plant you would realize that climate change happens, period, there is nothing that will stop. In fact, there is literally nothing we could actually do to destroy life on this planet.

So what we really should be talking about is how much of the environment do we actually need to take care of to survive as a species.

I dunno, I am far to the right and an environmentalist. We are supposed to support conservation and environmental stewardship. Leftists have a point with their preaching about taking care of the earth it's often overdramatic and they prescribe the wrong solutions. Neocons think economic growth is the highest virtue and are retarded.

there is a much greater threat to our planet in the pacific ocean. fukushima is alone worse than all the carbon we release into the atmosphere. climate change is horseshit.

You can pursue conservation policies without believing the retarded bullshit of climate change.

Climate and weather fucking happen ... our impact is inconsequential. Stop licking manbearpig's colon.

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Correct, OP is retarded and apparently missed the news about the hole in the ozone repairing itself.
I would encourage OP to learn about the ENTIRE history of the planet. Instead of just going back 100 or so years to form his hypotheses.

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Fukushima in the pacific is a drop in a swimming pool bro. If you've ever had a CT scan you've already had more radiation in you than a decade diet of Pacific sea food circa 2018.

Forget climate change.
A human being radiates about 350KJ per hour.
That means that's the equivalent of detonating a 2 megaton nuclear warhead every hour for the whole human population.
Add to that the burning of other energies, animals, methane production and you can see that earth has a heat waste problem, not a climate change problem.
The greatest pollutant is life itself.

Lol I remember in the 90’s when they were flipping out and saying we were all going to be fried by UV rays because muh O3 hole is irreparable.

>what's wrong with taking care of the environment?
What makes you think we aren't? Because we don't virtue signal about it and send billions of dollars to China for literally no reason?

Well, we can still accept their contention that the rate of climate change has greatly increased since industrialization for the argument to be valid. At this stage, the climate doomsayers are crying that a 2 degree change is inevitable even if everyone on the planet stopped producing C02 today, and that a 2 degree change is literally the apocalypse. Their side literally says it's all over, so if we were to believe them, the incentive for doing anything is already gone.

>So what we really should be talking about is how much of the environment do we actually need to take care of to survive as a species
This. Indoor farming is starting to become a thing, and there are good, if expensive, technological solutions to literally all the problems they're complaining about. But as economic incentives and conditions change, so will prices. Humanity isn't going anywhere, even if we have to sacrifice some no-name island countries and a whopping 10 feet of coastline.

Because the solution is nonsense. If global warming was a problem why do wr let china pump out so much pollution? When these international corporation stop drilling the ground for oil i will start worring about the environment.

>taking care of the environment?
If that's your concern, plant trees on the margins of deserts and burn fossil fuels to produce CO2 for them. They love that shit!

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What causes it if it's real? A question that will never be answered because we need millions of years of records to come to an educated conclusion.

The problem isn't the notion of wanting to "save the planet" but the methods for doing so.

It's convenient that every initiative, at least in the UK ends up being on the onus of the consumer. You can't get a plastic bag from a shop without paying an extra 5-10pence, people think it's about recycling, environmental hazards, etc but if that was truly the issue, the companies themselves should be pressured into using different materials. Instead we're just paying for the production of their bags and maybe a minor fund goes to some ineffective charity.

Same with recycling, coca cola produce more cans and bottles than we can ever recycle, and the energy used to recycle the cans is worse than the impact of it going to landfill.

It's always the companies passing charges and responsibilities onto the consumer, when it's production that is actually the main cause of pollution.

>US lowest carbon emissions since 1994
>leading research into technologies such magnesite growth
>rest of the world spends between $0 to $0 dollars on similar research
Why didn't you stop it? Specifically ask europe, india asia and africa.

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>using solar means they're non-polluters
Thanks retard. I donate to charity I guess that means I can never be up on criminal charges. I clearly love my fellow man.

clean water and air are beneficial to niggers, too

Recycling aluminum is cost effective, it's about 10 times more expensive to make raw aluminum from bauxite

Probably has to do with all those fires they start in order to cheapen the land so that it can be utilized for infrastructure like a light rail system

(Ban me for this you cucked mods)

>taking care of the environment?
Carbon credit swaps doesn't help shit, homie.

because most of the "scientific evidence" to support climate change has come out to be falsified or misrepresented. al gore told us that we would all be dead by now and that there wouldnt be any land left on earth. guess what, nothing has happened. the fact is, CO2 is metabolized by plants along with water in order to make hydrocarbons and oxygen. if there is more CO2, there will be more plants. just like how more food = larger populations of humans. the system corrects itself.
CO2 + H2O --(sunlight)--> C6H12O6 + O2

i think it is a thing i just don;t know how much of a man made thing it is and if its a lot then carbon taxes are not the answer. Plant more trees

Metabolic water is not even an iota of water present in the water cycle, and plants rapidly approach maximum saturation where they can grow. I don't agree with climate change being as big of an issue as its portrayed, but your logic is seriously flawed.

>rest of the world spends between $0 to $0 dollars on similar research
So? Isn't the investmen on solar energy research?

When to solution isn't some version of socialism or massive taxes, ill start paying attention.

Till then go preach about Green Jesus someplace else, fag.

The sun drives the climate. When the sun changes, the climate follows.