I honestly want to know. I can understand not liking Trump, or neo-cons, but why vote Democrat? What do you really think these frauds are gonna do for you? I can almost understand why minorities vote liberal, but why would any white working class person vote to get their money stolen by bureaucrats? I want real reasons here not orange man bad reasons. So again I ask, what do the democrats have to offer you?
Why do so many people vote democrats?
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At this point its just media brainwashing. Clinton got elected literally because young people thought he was "cool" and same with Obama. Now they're rewriting history in his case to say everyone voted for him because they hate white people but the democrat basic playbook is that our candidate is cool and their candidate will take away your rock n roll like the movies.
NPC doesn't begin to describe it
Imagine the average person of average intelligence. Half the nation is dumber than that person.
Cheap labor and welfare as well as “diversity”
I voted for the democrats 300 times because i am a Russian hacker that lives in America
Why do poor class people want "cheap labor" all it does it keep wages low.
Most democrat voters are minorities who have been entrenched in plantation mindsets for hundreds of years.
I thought black people only made up 11% of voters?
The vast majority don't know what cheap labor even is they don't know how taxes work and they don't know what government even is. Democrats just know that the other guy will make it worse. Like in the movies.
Maybe, just maybe some people don't agree with conservative policies on immigration, environment, education, corporate welfare, social liberties, employee rights, foreign policy, etc. and do agree with Democrats?
How is this hard to understand?
Gibs me dats and kikes. And the registered dead.
What the fuck are you idiots rambling on about? Is it really that upsetting to know our president enjoys drinking piss?
by generation:
young people
> media/university brainwashes them, the Democrats stand up for social justice!
middle-aged
> remnants of being part of lefty subcultures when they were younger (punk, goth, hipster, hippie, etc.)
old people
> voted Democrat when Democrats were reasonable, continue to vote for them because they're idiots that don't know any better, they see the nice campaign ads and think "he/she looks nice, I'll vote for them"
Maybe 3% do sure. The rest think trump is putting kids in cages, started the california fires, made their kid retarded, paid their liberal overlords, maga hats are a fireable offense, the oppression olympics is real and muh russia.
The is not one (0) political issue in the lot.
1. registered dead
2. registered illegals
3. niggers like gibs
4. social justice warriors
5. left overs, jews muslims that have bought into identity politics
6. idiots that want infinite taxation and end of private property
7. government works that want more government
8. union retards that vote the way they're told by union leadership
Clever boy.
Okay now elaborate what you think the democrats will do to make YOUR life better.
I'd even go as far as saying there are more Jow Forums trolls larping as lefties that know the issues than actual democrats that know the issues. Without lulz they'd crumble at this point
how is foreign policy different under democrats?
infinite aid to israel, same/more wars.
It's not like people have a lot of options. It's either pepsi or coke, and they both give you ass cancer.
they'll raise taxes and give him more gibs, so he votes for them ofcourse.
You honestly think 97% of Democrats are just conspiracy retards and don't care, nor understand, any of the issues? And I'm going to assume you think voting Republican is the answer for them?
Well, with this line of reasoning I guess you got it all figured out. I'm simply shocked more Americans are Democrats than Republicans...
> what a useless chart
what exactly is the x-axis metric?
I'm a single issue voter. I don't like republicans as they're pro-israel and pro-debt, but I cannot vote for anyone remotely anti-gun.
It's not about Democrat vs Republican (though the republicans are obviously the better option at this point) it's about finding out WHY you faggots march in the streets and beg for the govt to dominate you? Why do you want that? What do you actually think any Democrat is going to do to help you. I really want to know. But still not one answer. I'll wait
Of course they're conspiracy retards. They don't even have a platform anymore. They tried to block a supreme court nomination over a conspiracy theory. Democrats didn't stop for a second to question it.
Q lives in threads on an obscure site. Muh russia is the nightly news
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>what do the democrats have to offer you?
I... I'm sorry I have nothing. I really wanted to give a constructive, deep answer that explains the benefits of the Democratic Party in how they help people who are responsible, make good life choices, and self-reliant, but I have nothing.
I guess if you're part of the establishment you can vote for them because their policies will keep you in power (promise the dumb masses handouts from taxpayers and as a result you get to stay in your ivory tower), I guess if you fall into that category voting Democrat will benefit you.. but if you're poor and want to legitimately get ahead through the merits of hard work the Democrats will be nothing more than a hindrance.
If we're going by mean instead of median I'd say it's well above half the nation.
>You honestly think 97% of Democrats are just conspiracy retards and don't care, nor understand, any of the issues?
Yes.
t. self destructive blue state
How about, not everyone thinks like you do?
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Any answer that isn't "the bipartisan system breaks people down into "us vs them" is wrong and you should disregard it completely
Maybe the fact that you have a retard two party system, so if someone wants free healthcare he also must want immigration.
From a ex-democrat. It's genuinely ignorance and media coverage. They tell you only dems are for the people and repubs are just evil racists who only care about the military.
Basically this.
Democrats have to run on charisma because if they run on the issues they immediately cause a dozen internecine feuds, for example between fags who want taxpayers to pay for their transitions and single mothers who want taxpayers to pay for their children's college.
The right can run on issues because evangelicals who vote on abortion aren't at odds with military types who vote on gun control or some such.
The left lives and dies by charisma, which is mainly why hillary lost so bad
What a broad statement. If you really want to discuss the pros and cons of the GOP v. Dem platforms, let's talk specifics (e.g. healthcare, taxes, environment, social welfare, civil liberties, gun control, infrastructure, education, voter rights, technology, etc.)
Israel and Obama's administration did not get along. Why is this meme always being pushed that both sides of the aisle love zionists?
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Also we were far drawn down in Afghanistan during Obama's term and Iraq was over. I was fucking there. It was a skeleton crew at most. We were outnumbered by contractors. And what more wars?
you got everything a progressive liberal could want with obama (healthcare, open borders, stimulus) and it all fell flat on its face.
are you blind?
Poor class people don't understand shit about "cheap labor." They don't understand the concept that people who work for nothing can be brought in to replace them and lower their wages. You have to get in the mindset of the average normie. They don't pay deep attention to politics. They have a surface level understanding that comes out of what the mainstream feeds them. Now you have to ask yourself, "Can you actually have an in depth understanding of the situation from normie mediums of news?" They get what little they do know from mainstream news headlines, late night shows, and celebs. There is no way you would be able to watch something like Colbert who just makes fun of orangeman and the audience laughs then walk away with an in depth understanding. It's not just a lefty thing either. Fox News is the most boomer outlet to exist and just repeats basic conservative bullshit. Normies don't give a shit about history or the philosophy behind government and would rather spend their time doing other things.
Basically Obama > drumph because israel. Debatable at best but once again a lefty argument comes down to saying nothing except "at least its not the other guy"
IT's about the definition of the "in-group". People have a natural instinct of protecting their "in-group", to some, it only extend to the family, to democrat, it extend to the whole population.
Othe reason: Global Warming. It's clearer and clearer republicans will do nothing about it, or far less than Democrats and if they want to stop something that could be a threat for them, the only one who will will be Democrats.
Kweens n sheiiit.
Both sides play their part. Dem base cannot condone israel's actions, so the dem politicians are publically against them. The opposite is true with repubs.
The jury is out on trump for me. He certainly seems better than hillary, but time will tell if he's just another manchurian candidate.
Mostly it's just poor people who vote blue to get by but have no idea that it's a life sentence to being poor. If everyone actually started becoming successful and educated then Democrats will start losing dem botes.
Because they died
I'm socially liberal and somewhat progressive as much as I am libertarian. I thought I could find hope in the Dems. I was wrong. They just as corrupt as the fucking Republicans and do not actually represent the American people.
>I honestly want to know. I can understand not liking Hillary, or antifa, but why vote Republican? What do you really think these frauds are gonna do for you? I can almost understand why rural whites vote conservative, but why would any white working class person vote to get their money stolen by bureaucrats? I want real reasons here not "shill goyim npc" reasons. So again I ask, what do the republicans have to offer you?
Dems will collect sweet tax & donation money towards global warming and run with the money. And you know it.
This. It's how me and all my normie friends thought when we voted for Obama. Fucking embarassing to look back on how duped I was in college.
Because republicans are fear mongering assholes.
And look at the difference in attitude between the people in their respective parties. There's ALWAYS a question of doubt with republicans and we go after the ones that aren't working for us and our issues.
A democrat sees a D and they'll defend rape torture murder treason you name it. I think deep down most of the democrats are embarrassed to represent such morons these days which is why they've given up on politics. Why work when your base is informed by comedy central and twitter
Found the faggot
I gave you a list of reasons for why people vote for Democrats over Republicans. You don't care. That's fine.
What conspiracies? They tried to investigate an accusation in a Senate hearing. Are you not supposed to do that any longer, because it might hurt a job applicant's feelings? Are you seriously suggesting that?
As far as Russia is concerned, you're beating a dead horse. The entire world agrees they meddled in our election. The fact that you're trying to equate known Russian involvement in our 2016 elections with shit like right-wing conspiracies is retarded (i.e. birther movement, pedogate, comet pizza, obama/clinton created isis, sandy hook was a hoax...make that every domestic terrorist act since McVeigh is a hoax, seth rich was assassinated, george soros is paying people to protest/riot, etc.). The sad state of affairs for Republicans at this point is that their national leadership are citing these conspiracies. I guess you should ask instead, why is anyone voting for a party so out of touch with Americans?
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What blue state is that?
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Republican leadership pushing "trickle-down" shit is what fucked over Kansas and Alabama (to a lesser extent).
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They're more corrupt than Republicans. Look up super delegates, the Republican Party doesn't have them. If they did Trump would never have been the Republican nominee, and if Democrats didn't have them Bernie Sanders would have been the Democrat nominee. I hate both parties, but the Democrats are worse, and as a result I almost always vote Republican in elections, though I did vote Libertarian in 2016. Glad Hillary lost though.
The "Leftist Elite" ironically answer this question themselves every time they're sucking down their own farts:
>"lol obviously the majority of people in the USA are just so stupid! XD"
A bunch of retards voting retardedly.
>pro-immigration
retarded, lowers wages and IQ
>pro-environment
actually a good thing, except Dems don't ever deliver
>education
[insert increased spending leading to no increase in test scores over the years chart that always gets posted] waste of money
>corporate welfare
another good thing in principle that the Dems will NEVER deliver on.
>social liberties
If you can't knowingly pass-on AIDS without getting a felony, the fascists win amirite?
>employee rights
This isn't the 1900s, the only thing you could possibly mean by this is minimum wage hikes which are retarded and affect only ~4% of the country. Additionally the fact that you're all fine with millions of Mexicans coming every year means that meaningful wage growth can never occur since they will always work for less.
>foreign policy
literally 0 difference between the parties, both bomb whoever Israel wants us to. Anyone who thinks otherwise is brain-dead.
Truth of the matter is, whites who vote Democrat are absolutely retarded and non-whites are essentially just voting for more gibbs. Anything else?
If youve gotta type that much to convince somebody you're not full of shit then you're not only losing republicans but you're losing democrats. Better stick with Orange Man Bad
why vote for either of the major parties?
Where's the proof? Meddling in what way, supporting Trump?
If you're poor why wouldn't you vote for free money? It's really that simple. Same reason the middle class vote for republicans; lower taxes means more money. As for why some rich vote democrat it's a combination of two things. Either 1) being so rich the increased taxes don't affect you and you genuinely think you're being a philanthropist by paying more, or 2) you want to kick the ladder to stop those behind you from rising to your level.
>As far as Russia is concerned, you're beating a dead horse. The entire world agrees they meddled in our election.
Israel/The Jews meddle in our election every year much more than Russia does, why aren't you mad at them?
We meddle in elections around the world all the time, why aren't you mad at us?
Anyone who takes the Russia issue as something new and/or serious is a fucking moron. Everyone meddles with everyone all the fucking time.
The truth is most people don't pay attention to politics, and many have been brainwashed growing up to believe conservatives are the party of fraud and lies. Most of my extended family (aunts uncles etc) all vote left but they have no idea what's going on. They don't read cnn/nyt/wapo or even any right wing stuff, they don't know how many people immigrate into the country every year. They just think Fox news are liars and Democrats are the good guys.
One time as some family gathering they were complaining about the cities being over crowded, traffic etc total normie stuff, and none of them even remotely considered that this is caused by immigration. At the end their solution was building a huge superhighway to divert traffic. That would cost a fortune, raise taxes, and not work. Seriously these people are retarded but they don't see the problems because they are upper class living in white neighborhoods so they think everything is fine from where they are sitting. My family is poor and we vote conservative, and they think we are conservative because we are dumb and therefore we vote conservative.
The truth is that we are affected by the horrible leftwing policies but they don't feel the damage to the country because they can afford to live in a good neighborhood and work in a good place etc. Then his further reinforces their belief democrat smart conservative dumb.
I remember when Clinton got elected, and it this is completely true. Young people voted for him because:
>"ROCK THE VOTE XDD!!"
>"muh saxophone"
>"muh weed"
That was the exact extent of their reasoning. And everyone voted for Obama because:
>Novelty Item: First Blacc President!!
People voted for Hillary because:
>Novelty Item: First Woman President!!
Dems are not the brightest, nor do most of them have any fucking depth. These are also the idiots who constantly say we need to reevaluate the meaning/need for certain modern day uses of terminology, yet their heads explode every time you explain to them how they're essentially the world's "reactionaries" at this point. They're stupid, stupid fucking people. I had one fucking Lefty moron try to tell me the other day that "hate against Russians is racist." Stupid fucking people.
Not that poster, but they totally meddled, it was in their interest to not have the person who repeatedly claimed she'd commit an act of war day 1.
I like how it went from trump is a Russian plant, to they have dirt on trump, to they hacked the election, to "well they bought ads and stumped for trump on Facebook!", of fucking course they did, because Shrillary was gonna start ww3 for profit and Russia was the primary fucking target.
Get bent, sore losers.
Not a progressive liberal, but they certainly didn't get any of that stuff. We got universal healthcare? There is no public or single-payer option.
We got open borders? Arrest were consistent and deportations were higher under Obama.
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We got a stimulus (I pray you're not referring to the bailout to recover from the recession...)? That's not a stimulus, it's a band-aid to prevent another great depression.
It's shocking that so many "conservatives" dislike Obama because he was a huge fucking centrist (see: drone strikes, forced privatized healthcare, increased border security, etc.). I don't know what's in the kool-aid, but a lot of you fuckers went back for seconds on that batch.
Okay, then I'll vote for the party that is publicly against them vs the party that's 100% Israel.
>A democrat sees a D and they'll defend rape torture murder treason you name it
Right, which is why Hillary lost so many Benie supporters...
Do you guys just have thoughts and are like, "yeah, that made sense in my mind...run it out loud."
it's mainly a strong groupthink that is instilled through the media and education system
there's a ton of people who just think that leftism is the only moral choice because they have been instilled with marxist values from top to bottom
They're the same people who voted for Obama to keep McCain and Romney out because AT LEAST ITS NOT THE OTHER GUY only to turn around and deify them because they hate trump which is just an emotional reactionary and retarded way to play politics. Its 4D ATLEAST ITS NOT THE OTHER GUY.
Its primarily over healthcare. Healthcare is consistently the highest priority in political polls on both sides of the isle.
Obamacare has chained them to the democratic party in the same way that theyve chained mexicans and blacks. Theyre scared of losing their healthcare and dying of preventable diseases
unless youre really involved in politics it would be hard to vote for the right wing guy when youre own mother is sick and dependant on obabocare
Democrats didn't put up a fight against Hilary over Bernie what are you retarded?
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it includes MSNBC in that study as an ideological source, and it further states that if youre not in their target market, you're not going to take anything away from it. it works both right and left. Hurrday for broken scaling and intellectualy honesty in journalism and on the internet
>but why vote Democrat?
Because the dead vote
Did you know that in the past 30 years, the republicans have won the popular vote only twice in presidential elections?
Why? Cause the majority of the people can't stand right wingers and their policy. They simply don't like them. Nothing personal.
As all democrats know, you can always bet on polls and surveys. People that stupid deserve to be yoked
>2012
I bet those numbers look quite different now.
pilpul bullshit. Buying ads on Facebook is not meddling in an election.
>explain the reasons
>too much text!
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It's a wikipedia page so you'll ignore it and the sources. But let's be honest you don't care either way, so let's not waste each other's time.
>israel/the jews meddle
Assuming they did, what makes you think I like Israel? If you somehow inferred that, then I suggest you read my posts.
>we meddle
Because us meddling in other people's elections doesn't affect me or my fellow Americans. Additionally, us interfering with foreign nation's elections to influence them in our favor is exactly what our state department and CIA are supposed to and should be doing. It's called being American-centric. Do you feel different? Do you think we should drop the counter-intelligence missions of our FBI, CIA, NSA, DIA, etc.?
You're okay with Russia interfering with our democratic elections, because we do it? I don't think you'd heard a Russian say that...
other than sjw and minorities wanting gibs, it's people who actually think it's possible for an economic system other than free market capitalism to work in the long run, which is retarded
What was Hillary's platform and how would it have differentiated from what Trump has done.
Half of them want free shit and the other half is in it for the feels.
Literally the party of the lowest common denominator.
You're forgetting Latinos and Caribbeans. Although Caribbeans in my state are pretty evenly split between Democrat and Republican
My father is a life long conservative from a family of conservatives. He voted dem in the midterm election. He really doesn't like Trump and people like Trump (corrupt businessmen). He thinks Trumpism has taken over the party.
Did you not go to college? Do you know that Wikipedia doesn't suffice as a source.
Also, buying Facebook ads is not meddling. Obama endorsed Remain, therefore we meddled, nobody gives a shit. It's just kicking and screaming because everyone said Hillary was going to landslide him by near record numbers and it was the reverse.
>Shrillary was gonna start ww3 for profit and Russia was the primary fucking target
Another example of the right-wing conspiracies the people who don't drink your kool-aid find troubling and unpalatable. You wanted reasons people vote for Democrats, so I hope you're keeping a list.
What year did he die?
I bet your dad also supports globalism and multiculturalism
The biggest difference would be with judicial appointments. Night and Day here and really the most important issue.
Also why Trump won.
You havent given a single reason people vote for democrats. If you're larping or serious it proves my point. No platform just eternal buttmadness. Even your muh russia sperging is AFTER he got elected which doesn't retroactively justify why Hillary to begin with. Or any democrat for that matter.
I love how nobody replies to this post which absolutely fucking slaughters any and all Democrats. Pathetic display.
Not really.
He is still alive. What are you trying to imply.
The GOP is dead like dogshit. This is the TOP.
Trumps own party. Trump has the whole base behind him.
He can destroy every republican with a single tweet.
And they know it. If Trump loses they will blame them.
They both are ideological sources. Most of the shit ran on MSNBC and Fox News are heavy opinions pieces with small slivers of hard news. They do more to make their audience feel "empowered" than actually inform them of "icky" things that might make them question their perceptions.
This.
You aren't a voter you're someone else's opinion section. NPC overdrive
>posts article
Most people don't watch/follow the news. They just see campaign ads and vote based on that. The DNC hand picks candidates who are specifically catered to the districts they're running in and pump big money into it (it's okay when they do it).
Marxists are subverting our country by bribing social classes with promises of power they are not Constitutionally authorized to give.
>Assuming they did
No, KNOWING they did. The Jews completely dominate our media and heavily influence our government if you don't understand that yet you shouldn't be posting here.
>what makes you think I like Israel?
The fact that you don't call them out for meddling but you treat Russia's meddling like it's the worst thing to ever happen to America.
>Because us meddling in other people's elections doesn't affect me or my fellow Americans. Additionally, us interfering with foreign nation's elections to influence them in our favor is exactly what our state department and CIA are supposed to and should be doing. It's called being American-centric.
So you want to meddle in other people's elections, but are surprised and butt-hurt when someone does it back to you? Wow imagine that....actions having consequences....an anathema to liberals I know.