Are you an NPC?

Are you an NPC?

An NPC can only deal with absolutes. If you present them with a moral dilemma where they actually have to think for themselves they have a meltdown. It is far easier to blend in with the crowd. Vote for X. Only X is good. Everyone who is Y is bad.
Using a controversial example (because it is low hanging fruit).

The age of consent in my locality is 18. Now to most people, no matter what country others live in. No matter what others social values are. No matter what others own local age of consent laws are. They are all WRONG.
The age of consent is 18 and is the ONLY correct answer. Not because they have thought about the how or why. But because that is what has been hammered into them their entire life by their friends, family and the media.
If you even remotely think otherwise you are Y (in this case a pedophile or pedophile supporter). It is far easier for most people in society to hate a big, bad monster that wants to steal your children during their sleep than be villified for openly discussing a social taboo that everyone has already set their minds in stone upon. Instead it is best to not rock the boat and scream loudly how you are sickened and horrified by something whenever it is made public.

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By doing so you get your (You)'s from your fellow peers, feeling superior and comfortable about any decisions you might make that would negatively affect others (especially if they are strangers, since they are outside your circle of family and friends). It is far easier to dehumanize those that do not fit into your version of the perfect world.
When you see the screaming NPC after the Trump vote you are seeing a reflection of this bubble world they live in. Someone poked a pin into their bubble ofexpectations and the cold, hard light of reality shone for a brief moment into their walled garden.
Are you capable of thinking for yourself without your government, laws and peers holding your hand for you?
There are other examples of course (orange man bad, the death penalty, wars abroad etc)

I try not to deal in absolutes. Do you?

Every human person is a npc. Prove me wrong

Whilst is is true that miost of us are slaves to the system in some way or another we all still have free will (or at least a semblance of it). We are limited by our circumstances to some degree (financially or health wise etc). But we do still have choices. You can always lie to your social circles too in order to have some form of protection. Many wear the mask.

BTW Jow Forums is pretty much the red pill NPC. It's just another group think mindset. In this case the left is Y. There is no middle ground. Are you prepared to sit down with the left and try to negotiate a middle ground? Or is your only world viiew one of 'kill all faggots, commies and flavor of the month'?

Multiversal Solipsism.
Everyone is a NPC in my reality.
I'm a NPC in their reality.

Do you shop at Walmart of a small, independent, local store.

Also. What is your stance on the deciminalization of all drugs?

>If you present them with a moral dilemma where they actually have to think for themselves they have a meltdown

proceeds to have a meltdown about how others think.

No, I don't shop there. That place is a temple to the societal failures of Neoliberalism.

As for the drugs, I believe some drugs should get decriminalized but not all. We've experienced the effect of the opioid crisis here and it's been disastrous to many communities, while offering no upside.

Not a meltdown. I am always open to other peoples opinions. I am just pointing out how other peoples opinions are not their own but a set thought pattern due to peer pressure and media consumption/consumerism.
People wlk through supermarkets unaware they are being influenced by advertising, grouping certain products in a certain way to attract sales, blowing the smell of freshly baked bread even to subconciously influence your buying decisions.
All around us we are constantly being told what to buy, do, say and how we interact with the world.

The drugs are not the problem though. It's just like gun laws. Drugs don't kill people. People do.

Good luck trying to reason with a mutt.

Everything has to start somewhere. I may not have faith in group think mentality. But if you can chisel away at one small portion of it you might make some headway.

That's a false equivalency, comparing apples and oranges.
Chemically induced slavery to a producer is morally evil. This is due to a lack of information from a microeconomic sense; where the agent is given incomplete information of the product due to requiring a personal chemical interaction that can't not be conveyed fully without personal use. If a drug is so powerful that one use will lead to a chemical addiction, then you'd created a slave by tricking a user with false advertising.

It's the irony I see so much with you libertarian types. You say you value freedom so much, but you have no qualms with watching it be taken away on an individual level; whether through market slavery or through chemical slavery. It's an fundamentally evil ideology if played out.

>The age of consent is 18 and is the ONLY correct answer.

Yep I've been in that type of situation. It truly is shocking to converse with brainlets.

They would be held accountable for false advertising. Also addiction is a choice.

Crack babies are addicted not by their own choice, but by that of their mothers.
Also, you're advocating purely on principle and not by pragmatism. There is no upside both to society and to the individual outside of validating your own personal moral relativism.

I understand how a person can be tricked into taking certain drugs that are highly addictive. Meth being one of the worst. But what makes one drug good (highly addictive opiods prescribed by your doctor) and another bad (DUDE WEED!). As I said. The problem is not with the drugs themselves. But with how we as a collective deal with them. Individual circumstances come about through our collective decisions.

I know this is an attempt at bait, but this user is completely right. The age of consent should be 25 years old, as our brains are not developed until then. We should also enforce chastity.

Group think mentality and how dangerous it is. All of us allow our governments to make our decisions for us. The voting system has been rigged so far in advance that it matters not who you vote for. They are all the same animal and do not have your best interests at heart. It is truly sad that we have come to this. The Matrix is real. It is not some technological monstrosity that took away our freedom but collectivism. Living in a society of billions all moving inexorably towards a common goal. That goal being to prop up those in power without most of us even realizing it.

The age of conset after puberty should be judged on a case by case basis. The law deals in absolutes. Grey areas are paperwork though which is why there are hard lines. It's just laziness which is just human nature.

Chemical dependency.
A product that affects the mechanisms of willpower would fit in that category.
Imagine if I rented you a helmet, and once on you head it releases intense dopamine hits each time you try to remove it. Effectively trapping the helmet on you head. Meanwhile you have to constantly pay rent on that helmet. Would this product be ethical to sell?

>spending hours PER case, per person just to find out if you can fuck her.
Yeah... Okay, idealist.

If you go in knowing full well what this entails then yes.

>t. Mad pedophile mad about being called pedophile.

What's wrong with fucking kids, right? Surely all who realize this is bad are NPCs programmed against you. Fuck off.

Idealism is what changes society. For better or worse depending on your point of view.

I am just using it as an example. If you are reading more into it than that you need help.

Weird how that was your go to. Did his mom find your texts and block you? Have they threatened legal action?

But you don't.
You have no clue how that experience will play out fully. An agent can't simulate altered states of consciousness while at a nominal rational state. Once dawned, they lose their agency fully on making decisions on that product.

You're advocating to increase the amount of mines in a reality already layered with minefields.

Also as I stated it is low hanging fruit. Probably the lowest hanging fruit of all. I could have used 'organge man bad', 'an eye for an eye (the death penalty), 'wars abroad do not affect me' etc. But since this is Jow Forums the age of consent is an easy target to unmask the NPC's.

Free will comes at a cost. Who knew.

>addiction is a choice
It can be but it can be accidental, and also please understand how insidious addiction is. What isn’t generally appreciated is how much it changes a persons personality. So Smegol becomes Gollum with things like opiates. Addiction creeps up on you making you think it’s your choices but it’s not entirely, from onset of use the substance is busily changing personality and asserting its necessity.
Trusting in the image of doctors in a place like America can get a person accidentally addicted to drugs, for an example of accidental addiction.
I’ve got a long story of how I once came to be addicted to opiates - which made me utterly sick I’m not one of those people who are attuned to opiate enjoyment - but it’s a past thing and I can’t be arsed so I’ll spare you. Like I would estimate is the case with most people I believed such nasty bollocks could never happen to me, yet it did and it certainly was not a conscious choice.
Pic unrelated. Ralph dabbing for no deal sack May carpet bomb the EU.

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everyone is an NPC except me and you baby

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Society as a whole takes away your right to make certain decisions. This does not just extend to laws. But in your choices throughout your lifespan. We are locked into a system that benefits the few. Not the many. You can call what I believe in as communism if you like (even though communism is still about those few who are in control still reaping the benefits). But ultimately we are geared towards selfish, personal gain, Not just financially. But in our social poisition and how we want other to percieve us.

By putting a system in place that is meant to protect us. It also controls us. It stifles us. A psychopathic killer may be inherently bad. But at least they are living their lives honestly. The nanny state protectionism has made us weak and easily manipulated. Certain types of anarchy are actually good for us. If it breaks the collectivism that keeps us in a constant state of being subdued.
Of course one mans revolution is another mans despotic regime.

And you're exploiting it for pure personal gain, rather than producing something of net value either to the individual or society. It's a negative trade product; much like exporting fear, terror, and misinformation. It's exploitative and evil.

I'm not going to change your morality in the end, it's a moot conversation. I gather you'd prefer to live in world where you draw moral sustenance from observing others mistakes in judgement. Where one can "feel good" by knowing that they didn't fall for the lure of temptation. What makes it evil is that you are advocating for more traps (temptations) to be lain about for others to succumb; all to satiate your own moral satisfaction. I find this mentality selfish and fucked up.

Ever notice how dipshit pedophiles only target kids because nobody else would fuck them in the first place? No kid would want to have sex with your old ass, you just want to rape them and get away with it.

Collectivism is fine where it offers a benefit to the individual. But as of right now it is a trap in and of itself. We have all fallen into the trap of societal normalization. Worker bee mentaility.

To quote Spock in The Wrath iof Khan when he changed his tune.
The needs of the few outweight the needs of the many.
If you believe the reverse you are for society wandering along off the edge of a cliff without understanding why they are jumping off it.

>your old ass
Projecting is a pretty shitty way of thinking. But you cannot help your programming I guess so I forgive you.

No kid wants you, diddler. You're a disgusting piece of shit that wants to take advantage of still developing bodies and minds. Neck yourself.

First off, I didn't once mention collectivism, I'm more concerned with personal morality; I think you're talking about someone other user's post.

Secondly, Spock's utilitarianist quote is "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few"

Here's your (You). Now run along adults are talking.

You are correct. I've just checked. But there are instances where it is reversed when the needs of the many are unjust, corrupt or just plain stupid (see the boy Alfie who is still being denied access to medical cannabis in the UK despite it now being legal).
I don't mind admitting when I have made a mistake. Some will never admit making mistakes though.

BTW I think it was Kirk, early on who stated that the needs of the few outweighed the many. But I can't find that clip or direct quotation right now.

One more thing. Out of interest. Did you know that many pedophiles who have been arrested are also staunch Star Trek fans? Makes you think.

Good job proving OP right

I'm not against that kind of legalization. In fact, I advocate for it. The problem lies inherently in the nuances between the individual's needs and society's needs; where to draw that line will forever be up for debate.

I believe Kirk did rebut Spoke with that line, but it's kind of disingenuous in the context of Kirk himself. If he really believed this philosophy, then his crew solely exists for his own benefit and it makes his heroism seem selfish, petty, and hedonistic. It means all those "red shirts" that bit the dust were just meaningless pawns to his own desires. However, we've seen Kirk distraught many times at the loss of his crew. He also believes in Starfleet and the its ideals, even if he conducts himself in a individualistic unique way: he pushes those ideals forward in his own way.

I guess in an ideal universe those ideals would hold weight. The Federation teaches us that we all have a part to play. Even if it depends on a system of hierachy. Unfortunately we live in a less than ideal world where greed over the better overall good Trumps all.

This man has an abnormally large penis

thinly veiled pedophilia thread, what's wrong muhammad, did the previous thread hurt your fee fees?

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>All the world's a stage, and all the men and women merely players: they have their exits and their entrances; and one man in his time plays many parts.
We're meant to play the hand we were dealt. I believe the meta-game is to play our hand to it's maximized fullest; to be our idealized selves. A world of fully fleshed out personalities. Same goes to the 'villains' our our stories. The best antagonists are the most compelling; because they play their character to their best ability.

I like to view reality as a chessboard where meta-physical ideas are made physical as pieces on the battlefield. In a way, we're a collection of ideas, hopes, and dreams encased in a fleshy armor.

I am not making it thinly veiled at all. I use it as a discussion point to highlight other facets of societal norms which need challenging. People do not want to address it in any fashion because of the social stigma attached to it and how they fear any backlash for thinking outside the group think mentality.
The same can be said for the left's insistence that homosexuality is a sexual preference. That transgederism and non-binary are not up for discussion. That femanism is actually good for society and a whole heap of other arguments that staunch advocates (both left and right) have set their hearts in stone upon.
As I said. I used the age of consent argument because it polarises opinions so strongly.

My own personal belief is that there are abusers and there are those who just got caught in the crossfire (someone who had sex with a 17yo in a locality where the age of consent laws state they must be over 18). I live in a country where the age of consent is 16. What makes the US age of consent more relevant than my locality?

This meest with my philosophy rather well. Thank you for your thoughts (or copy pasta if so).

>meets

Binary logic is the basis of all reality. You are a moron to think differently. Also, 2 is the first number.

>The age of consent in my locality is 18
I would set it to anywhere between 16 to 21 depending on what strategy you are currently using (more babies vs smarter babies)
Basically you set it to 16 if you want an endless army of idiot serf peasants like you to die in jew wars but you set it to 21 if you don't want that nonsense. Then you compromise by setting it to 17. 18. 19 or 20 if you want somewhere in between it, though 18 is a magic number since that's when you enter university

To be perfectly frank I find it somewhat tortuos. Whilst I appreciate what emotional feelings gives to us as a species. I also despise when it can create. When I see so much suffering I see why this suffering occurs and usually it is down to a purely emotional response based on poor ideologise (faith, politics, greed, envy). Of course it can also be the reverse where lack of empathy occurs. A sociopath cares not about those they use and throw away to get what they want for instance. But that is usually just a lack of one emotion rather than entirely.
Logic has its place obviously but then a computer could decide to wipe out certain populations if it would create a better world. That is not what we all wish for though is it? I certainly would not wish to be one of those that it decided to expunge from society afterall.

>But we do still have choices.
I can cut away your frontal cortex or any other part of your brain to alter your precious 'free will'

A recent study concluded that the birth rate in western countries is falling. Big surprise (not). They already made a movie about it (Children of Men) and the only fix is to import more immigrants from poverty stricken countires who have high birth rates like Africa. Nice idea in principle except it will just turn the west into a shithole of more poverty. More crime and dumber denizens (which the rich and powerful want anyhow as they are easier to control).

>Stating the obvious adds to the discussion
t. Gnazi's are cool Mmmkay.

okay, in the off case that you are being legitimate, i'll say I agree with you, but are you and I in an agreement that pre-pubescent children are off the bat and only uncivilized societies engage in such practices (ie mudshit nations cause their prophet fucked a 9 y/o)?
call me paranoid, but i've seen this rhetoric before, trying to put children with women in such close juxtaposition because your sand religion has examples of it occuring. Mary, for instance, was 14 when she gave birth to Jesus.

This whole transgender movement being pushed on kids is to eventually get the argument going that if children can pick their gender they should be able to choose their sexuality, therefore able to have sex (with whoever they want). Just wait .

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If they have not gone past puberty then yes it's off the cards even if it can be proven a loving relationship (it can't because of the power dynamic). If however they are past puberty then there should be some leeway with age gaps and cases reviewed individually where it is aknowledged there is a problem. The power dynamic of school teachers having sex with 16yo's exists and thus is against the law and rightfully so.

It will be the kids pushing for the age of consent to change, not the adults

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Oh absolutely I agree with this statement. No parent in their right mind agrees to this shit. Only those who are retarded or being pushed by their social peers.

You’re lying. Nobody gives a fuck if teo 16 year olds have sex. Are you leftwing per chance?

>Jow Forums
>a site known for it's degeneracy
>formerly know for it being a site for pedophiles to hangout
>still has regular loli threads on /b/
>/a/, /c/ and /jp/ still exist (as well as Jow Forums etc)

How new are you?

But keep pretending you know exactly who is a pedo on Jow Forums just because the subject of consent was broached. (Clue: Some people think about shit others don't want to think about because they can't cope with 'bad thoughts'. It's called being an adult dear)

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Rule of law is important.

no

>The age of consent in my locality is 18.
>Now to most people, no matter what country others live in. No matter what others social values are. No matter what others own local age of consent laws are. They are all WRONG.
Ye, breddy much. Wanting to fulfill your power fantasies is not an argument, faggot.
>The age of consent is 18 and is the ONLY correct answer.
Wrong. 18 is too young and too stupid to be able to consent to sexual intercourse.
>Not because they have thought about the how or why. But because that is what has been hammered into them their entire life by their friends, family and the media.
>Doesn't think about why it is like it
>"hurr durr da media bugeymen"
>proceeds to rant about how people are NPCs
OP is a fag
>openly discussing a social taboo that everyone has already set their minds in stone upon
Well, do you expect me to willingly leave you alone with my offspring?
Do you really believe any sane person would accept that?
>"Yeah dude, traumatized my children so they'll kill themselves in their teenage years because they can't shake the shame. the feeling of being dirty and the burden of the abuse."
Pedos are omega males with an inferiority complex that will do and use anything to feel superior to something even for a second.
>I try not to deal in absolutes. Do you?
translation:
>"I'm an insecure brainlet and if you disagree with me you're the boogeyman if depicting here"
ur a fgt pls an hero

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Whilst I agree the problem is that the law has become a convoluted shitstorm to navigate and is different depending where you live or where you travel to/from. If I lived in Pokeyville where the law is that everyone must wear a firearm at all times then that's easy to follow (yes there is a place in burgerland that has this law).

But we are too many. Too widespread. Too fractured whilst still living so close to each other we are up each others butts. Loneliness is an epidemic among the older white race. Community is a dead concept for some (I would argue many but I digress).
Laws only work when you don't have to go read the local law books in order to not become another statistic due to ignorance of local laws. Especially when travelling abroad.

I try not to deal in absolutes, but if you’re only given two options what’s the difference?

You sound like the very definition of an NPC. Thuggish and rightous in your beliefs. So much so that you must resort acts of violence in order to justify them.
Pray to your God for forgiveness.

Which two options are you referring to? If you are saying there are only two options when it comes to age of consent you are false flagging.

Translation:
>"I will never admit to being wrong because my micro-ego couldn't handle that much of a "moral dilemma""
I mean, good try, wrong person.
>that you must resort acts of violence in order to justify them.
>being this much of a faggot
I'm reporting you to the cyber police for being such a humongous faggot

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no
a NPC is someone who doesn't have an inner voice
stop being such a faggot, OP

DSFARGEG

I believe some have inner voices. They just decided not to listen to it.

I’m obviously not an NPC. I am just a left-wing moral zealot that decided independently, long-ago, that orange man bad because facts. Check your privilege, shitlord. Orange man bad. Now please validate my programming.

>inserts virtue signal update
>'Free hugs commencing'

Its strange that 18 is the age you become an adult but the brain according to what i've read doesn't mature fully until age of 25 so we start treat a bunch of children as adults way earlier than we might should hmmm.

>baby’s first moral relativism critique
actually underage b&

Commencing dopamine release.

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Adulthood is a biological characteristic. Most 'adults' are still children. At least where the thought processes and decision making are concerned. Nobody truly 'grows up' since we all have selfish desires and emotional knee jerk responses. In order for mankind as a species to evolve it needs to put aside our petty squabbles and choose the path of knowledge and science.

53yo manchild here. I don't give a shit. The questions are still as relevant as ever and the more people engage and actually question WHY shit is the way it is the better.
Or do you wish to continue down the path of insanity?

The answer to your pseudo intellectual drivel is that the populace has willingly chosen time and time again to surrender some of their autonomy to a governing power in return for a more stable society. As a result governments have dictated people’s morality to them as people search for meaning in their everyday lives. If you had any inkling of an idea of what you were talking about you would be asking if the value of a stable “right or wrong” society outweighs the alternative of a society where people dictate their morality for themselves.