BREXIT BETRAYAL GENERAL THREAD #4

>The Official Brexit Withdrawal Agreement documentation has been released
gov.uk/government/publications/withdrawal-agreement-explainer-and-technical-explanatory-note-on-articles-6-8-on-the-northern-ireland-protocol

>The Nigel Farage Show: 14th November Brexit Betrayal. The worst deal in history
youtube.com/watch?v=VVVKzQd1tUY

>The Nigel Farage Show: 15th November 2018
youtube.com/watch?v=vLFiSDCDI_4

>Full list of Tory MPs known to have written letters to the 1922 Committee
inews.co.uk/news/brexit/no-confidence-vote-theresa-may-tory-mps-letters-brexit-deal-1922-committee-full-list/

>Theresa May to face vote of NO CONFIDENCE, former MP claims
express.co.uk/news/uk/1045438/Brexit-news-Theresa-May-capitulation-no-confidence-vote-UK-EU-divorce-deal-Cabinet-meeting

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>Brexit: May determined to 'see this through' amid growing criticism of deal – Politics live
theguardian.com/politics/live/2018/nov/15/brexit-deal-theresa-may-takes-agreement-to-parliament-politics-live

I don't know much about the UK but what are the odds your PM steps down?

If enough votes of no confidence get through then she'll have to, then there will be a leadership contest within the tories and a possible new general election.

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Isn't this deal just a smoke screen? pic related

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Source for any of this? Where did you get this?

Sorry spamming this on these threads but

Anne-Marie Morris (back bench Conservative) has said the 48 letters are in. This was about 30 minutes ago. If confirmed then that means May is gone and the deal with her.

They're all Europhiles, they love the EU, as much as I'd like a no deal I think the idea that this bunch will ever do it is delusion. If they wanted to do a no deal Brexit they'd have done it by now.

On day one they could have gone into the room with the EU negotiation team and laid out the plans for what the UK wants, we could do this because we are a big market for them so the cards are in our hands. It's as simple as that, 'give us this or we walk'. Because there is nothing wrong with WTO rules anyway.

One thing everyone needs to understand, the EU doesn't actually have any real power, it only has the power that the pro EU politicians decide to give it.

im not going nowhere

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It was Blair who deregulated the banks and we were still in the EU at the time. He did it to hide the fact that we were already heading for recession before the credit crunch hit.

twitter.com/J_amesp/status/1046828583484821504 this, as far as I know, is original source of it. It's been posted on Jow Forums too.

Probably horseshit but I hope not

P.S it was the EU found to be acting against good faith by financing competitors to UK manufacturing. The most recent example was the Land Rover Jaguar money going into a plant in Solvenia I think.

This would be absolutely wonderful if true. Perfidious Albion rises again.

second ref, 14 year olds allowed to vote

Zero, she will have to be ousted.

There'll be a general election before any second referendum. It's a minority government only in power via a coalition. If they loose 8 votes they can't pass anything, the DUP alone has 10 seats/votes as part of the coalition.

Now that's the kind of perfidy I could get behind, but I'm worried it's just larping.

I'm not sure if it's a larp or not, but there's at least two inconsistencies (Blair-banks, EU-bad faith) as mentioned above.

I was hoping for this when I read the news last night. I'm a Bong myself and I felt especially hopeless when reading about this (((deal))).
I booked a week off work to celebrate our independence day and everything. The way I see it though, this laughable deal is a way of stalling for a while while everybody scrambles to deal with it, with the leave date creeping closer every day. This deal might actually help us get no deal at all (the best and ONLY outcome we wanted).

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The 48 letters is never going to happen, May is gonna get to ride this all the way to the second vote.

We were never supposed to win the first vote and theyve been scrabbling around ever since as to how to fix it. It's sad how its turned out but predictable.

Just a reminder. The withdrawal agreement sets a 2 year transition period during which the UK will continue to abide by EU legislation and policy arrangements and continue to fund the EU. That is not problematic. The withdrawal agreement also allows the UK to negotiate trade deals as long as those deals do not come into effect before the trainsition period. This is not problematic. The withdrawal agreement also states that were no final agreement be reached between the UK and the EU at the end of the transition period, then the backstop agreements comes into effect. This is a problem, because:

1. The backstop agreement cannot be changed without the EU and the UK BOTH agreeing to change it.

2. The backstop agreement makes Northern Ireland subject to EU legislation and policy positions, effectively splitting the UK. This is a big problem particularly because Scotland, and Wales will look at Nirthern Ireland and then start to ask why they can't have their own trading arrangements, border arrangements, etc etc. That will destroy the United Kingdom.

3. The backstop agreement sees the UK continue to fund the EU for decades after.

If the backstop agreement is so damaging to the UK and so advantageous to the EU, why the fuck would the EU bother to come to any final agreement with the UK? It won't. This means the backstop agreement IS the final agreement, and because of point 1 above, the UK can't even exit the backstop agreement without hte permission of the EU. It will operate forever or until the EU decides we can leave.

That is why the withdrawal agreement is cancer. Write to your MPs guys and educate them.

If we agree this withdrawal agreement, we will be stuck with the backstop agreement in perpetuity. The only way to prevent that is not to pass this withdrawal agreement. Then it may be we leave on no deal.

I know, that's why I'm really hoping for Tory turmoil and then no deal. If it took them this long to write this crap, doesn't that mean that there literally won't be enough time to even write another one up? I mean, people unanimously hate this one. Maybe is true.
I fucking hope so. No deal is the only suitable arrangement. Just walk away. It's not like the EU is going to last much longer anyway.

Just stay in the US desu; be an illegal if you have to. UK is fucko'd.
The biggest flaws in the Brexit plan were a) assuming competent powerswould be running it, and b) assuming that everything would just go back to pre-EU days after we left, or some sort of Switzerland-like deal.

These fuckers will try to then trigger a second referendum and split the brexit vote by offering remain, May's deal or no deal. JRM and Co must be cunning and stay united throughout to prevent that from happening. So ERG must vote down this deal while building alliances with other parties, then vote down any attempts at a 2nd referndum. If they can stall until March 2019, the we leave on no deal.

did the jews do this?

>tfw Brexit is killing my job
Feels bab bros

>offering remain, May's deal or no deal

:DDDD
Implying they'll ever offer 'no deal' on such a referendum.
They'll offer remain and May's deal, and frame it as 'ultra hard tory Brexit!' and May and co will play along like the stooges they are.

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Here's the real redpill.

Graham Brady received the necessary 48 letters weeks ago. He's just suppressing it.

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First rule of Jow Forums : ignore memeflags

I'm actually marrying an American girl, with all the relevant paperwork in the pipeline. The UK IS fucked, beyond recognition. Shit makes me so sad though. Like how when Frodo sees the Shire wreathed in flames, being overrun with Orcs. No matter where I go, England is where I was born and grew up, it's so sad to see it go like this.

Shit bro you're right. I didn't even think about those fuckers trying to get a 2nd referendum. Not gonna lie, I can absolutely see Labor taking power in a snap election so I really hope it doesn't come to that. We need JRM to take the reigns and to just stall until March.

HahahAhahah

The UK is finished

Scottish independence is upon us

It's time for Scotland to rise again

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Pic related is scarily accurate. Down to the Yorkshire tea with 2 sugars.

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>Like how when Frodo sees the Shire wreathed in flames, being overrun with Orcs

We're going to make them give back our past.

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Good, I want Scots to fuck off. They are second only to the EU in terms of how bad they are for the UK.
The true redpill is that the UK was a meme and a mistake. There's no unifying these kingdoms. It should be
>Northumbria
>Mercia
>Wessex
>East Anglia

This...This is the one, user. I can't go on with this feel much longer...

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>not independent Sussex, Surrey, East Anglia, Suffolk, Norfolk, Kent and the other southern kingdoms

Fuck off Winchestershite.

Brady met May at number 10 not so long ago, but then stated publicly that the 48 hadn't been reached yet so maybe Morris jumped the gun. his meeting her though does suggest that it's closer to the 48 than just the 14-17 that have stated publicly they submitted a letter. It was at 40 for months, so I bet there's just one cunt holding out.

>that pic
Ah yes the failure of society.

We've literally been keeping the UK afloat for decades

>Never once paid less in to the EU than received back from it
>Somehow EU is keeping us afloat
>If anything not the other way around

The UK is finished bring on no deal I will laugh

Literally the other way round so I'm giving you this (you) out of pity.

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The UK makes more money than the 18 smallest member states of the EU.

The UK is the cash cow for the EU which is why the neoliberals do not want us to leave.

Just bantz user, I have never been south and honestly I didn't even know of those kingdoms.

Yes, no deal please.

Yes. This. No deal is what we want.
Then we can watch the EU burn.

The EU's gonna gain so much more opposition with that meme article when they fuck up the entire internet. Anyone consider how many normies that will piss off?

No, no. You can fuck off the EU with my blessing. Since the begining you british were against it and undermine it so leave now.

why do you love the taste of globalist cum so much?

Ahahhahajaa
Poor deluded little English boy

>essentially stay in EU
>forfeit the ability to have any say in what it does

wow what a deal

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>thinks the EU 'keeps Britain afloat'
>does everything they can to stop us from leaving
You know it's not true. If we actually were a drain then it would be good for the EU to let us go.

LADS

I think this banter has gone a bit too far we don't really want to damage our economy for limited gains.

People's vote now

So how many countries are planning to leave after us now? About half, and most of those being the bill payers?

>rolling for chaos kek bless this timeline

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Well you got nukes don't ya ? end us already !

The country comes far above muh GDP

is he the ultimate troll?

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I'm not globalist, i'm pro-EU because i don't want the greatest continent with the greatests peoples in there being subjugated and vassalized by the US, China or Russia.

They fear Europe because of what it can become. The light who shines above the world will rise again.

You're free to lick the boots of americans if you want.

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Well if you're okay with multiculturalism then I'd see why you wouldn't oppose it.

>They fear Europe because of what it can become.

Oh yeah the EU has totally been looking out for the interests of member states :^) Free movement has been so good for everyone.

So glad we have a bunch of unelected globalists making laws, where would we be without them?

This is what the English actually voted for

Thank fuck the Union will be over with 5 years

>i'm pro-EU because i don't want the greatest continent with the greatests peoples in there being subjugated and vassalized by the US, China or Russia.

>dont mind the niggers and sand niggers

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>i don't want the greatest continent with the greatests peoples in there being subjugated and vassalized by the US, China or Russia.

But you're perfectly happy to be enslaved by the international Jewish banking cartel. Good plan, mate.

But brexit won't get rid of the pakis

>trillions in unfunded liabilities
>capital flows directly to non-productive asset classes (property)
>rent extraction from workers on a massive scale
>absolute shit tier wages which causes talent to flood abroad
>average citizen riddled to fuck with debt - house on tick, car on tick; everything on tick; 2 payslips away from bankruptcy
>totally uncompetitive due to all labour and manufacturing outsourced to Asia
>social unrest due to importation of millions of foreigners with different moralities, cultures and values despite automation revolution about to make 90% of low skill jobs obsolete
>millennial generation sold down the river from their boomer predecessors

MUH BRECsIt is bad 4 UK biznis ladz

mUH PEOPLES VOTE

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You don't seem to mind third world niggers and muslamic orcs though.
Also you forgot to put Turkey on your map!

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Make this happen NOW

SCOTTISH EUROPEAN AND PROUD
kick Spain out though

Nationalism is treason lads

No one in Government is capable of planning anything like that. It would require long term thinking and a level of realpolitik we're just not capable of anymore. It would also require cooperation of the civil service who I imagine are just slightly less left wing than the teacher unions.

Give it to me straight, lads. What are the odds Nick Griffin gets installed as PM?

No but it gets rid of the EU. Also the ECHR blocks us deporting people because "that's mean :( ".

Also a scottish european. Brexit was done by dumb people we r the smartest around, we beated those english all thru history like that film with russal crowe

Not high enough.

0%

Take your memeflag off, kike faggots.

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what about the odds Nick Griffin installs HIMSELF as PM?

At what point, God damn it, are the people who voted Leave finally going to be held morally responsible for choosing Leave? When we ask them, "What the hell were you thinking?", when, at long last, will it finally be impossible for them to do or say anything in response except apologize?

Just admit it. You got tricked.

We won't make you look us in the eye.

We won't hysterically laugh at, what is without any shred of doubt, the embarrassment-induced redness in your face.

We just need you to say it: "I got tricked because I have a weak mind."

Admit it already, and just get it over with. Say it out loud: "I was weak minded and got tricked."

Just fucking admit it, already!

sorry guys brexit is not happening :')
try again in 10 years or something

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this

Stop posting this weak pasta in every European thread.

i am scottish european, we dont appreciate your racism we love pakis and deep fried mars bars

It's good that we voted leave because it's exposing the lack of democracy that the EU gives it's nation states.

you're a larping anglo I swear

Take your memflag off then, Angus. Go on.

>Scottish
>European

there's a reason the Romans built a wall keeping you sheepfuckers out.

youtube.com/watch?v=R9T4dGAxtO0

This man says it well

When i get my independunce i will have my real flag

0.0001%

This one?

Been ignoring pol and the news for 500 days... what happening with brexit? It's actually gonna happen now or...? gimme the qrd

>all those pro-EU comments
Seriously why people love the EU so much? I can understand how can anyone think that being rule by a foreign entity is a good thing

That niggas only compatible with windows 95

Lots of Bongs want Scottish independence as well. You Haggis niggers are almost as bad as the EU for wanting to destroy yourself. Nikola Sturgeon is Merkel's pet trout.

Fucking top zug zug

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cringe

Basically May's shit and has fucked it. We keep all the EU regs, but have even less control over them than before.

As a result, she's probably going out on her arse very very soon which probably means another election.