When did you realize that both christcucks and paganfags are mentally ill, and took the final redpill of atheism?

In the beginning there was God. He claimed to create evil and controlled every human’s will down to even hardening their hearts against Him. This has widely been regarded as a bad move so conservatives invented a new God they thought liberals would find more appealing.

Gay Jesus is non-canon.

fuck you

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That is quite retarded.
>1. LOL KIDS GETTING CANCER WAS JUST A PRANK BRUH! JUST A SOCIAL EXPERIMENT! I WAS JUST TEACHING THEIR PARENTS ABOUT LOSS AND SHIEEET YOU GOT PRANKED BRUH
>2. That is true, but it also doesn't require god to exist. But that way lies solipsism, so let's pretend that you're not a figment of my imagination.
>3.
>God did not create good nor evil
>"7 I form the light, and create darkness; I make peace, and create evil; I, the Lord, do all these things."

back in the early 80s, when i was born
go wash your penis

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>I literally can't into parenting
>quotes the old testament
Wow! Haven't seen these responses before!

>God changed since the Old Testament
In the beginning there was God. He claimed to create evil and controlled every human’s will down to even hardening their hearts against Him. This has widely been regarded as a bad move so conservatives invented a new God they thought liberals would find more appealing.

Underrated. Anyway, joos, sandniggers and rednecks get triggered by atheism because it somewhat promotes the most dangerous thing to general kikery: skepticism.

You haven't really addressed my point. Does your god approve of children getting raped or dying from natural catastrophes or diseases?

How about we just skip to the part where you want your hand held through life and claim that God should make a perfect world where consequences don't exist or He shouldn't exist. Because that's where this is headed like the last few hundred times I've had this conversation.

It's quite a simple question. Does your god jack off watching kids die of canceraids?

Also, yes. That is what should happen if a classical god existed. You should understand that it doesn't exist. And even if your bible god is real, he's not all-knowing, all-good and all powerful. Only two of those can apply to him, considering evil exists.

God doesn't have to conform to your linear logic and neither do I. Open up your mind and understand that there is a universe beyond what science has proven.

Is it odd I find Christcucks, Atheotards, Asatruaturds, Jizzlamists, Butthists, and Jewpiss people all equally titesome?

Logic and science are two different things. Can god make 1 != 1? If you can throw logic out the window to stick to your belief in god, I don't think there's anything for us to talk about

Evil is the absence of good. Good is productive. Do we say those that pick wheat are evil, because part of the plant goes in the trash? Do we cry for the loss of parts which are not useful?

Its almost as if free will is the ability to CHOOSE evil because it is FREE WILL.

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Sounds like you're the one thinking about masturbating to that. Why add God to your fantasies, friend? Oh, mental illness... Of course.

>Evil is the absence of good
Nope.

>then existence of evil disproves it
Not an argument. How does that disprove it?
>then all the internal inconsistencies [in the bible]...disprove it
Wrong. What if that deity wanted people to be confused? You've disproved nothing.

I mean, why don't you just answer this simple question? Yes or no? My mental illness or masturbation habits should have no influence on the answer.

No. That's how people generally are. There certainly exist true facts about the nature of reality though, and one or more of those groups possess parts of those facts.

Christ wouldn't put up with most of the faggot shit that goes on today btw. He wasn't a femboy like the faggots and Jews try to portray him as.

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"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword."
Matthew 10:34

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Darkness is a separate material from light? Oh, that's right, it isn't.

You wouldn't know what evil was if it came to your house while you slept and had its way with your uterus.

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>Not an argument. How does that disprove it?
You know the argument, I'm not going to repeat it one thousand times.
>Wrong. What if that deity wanted people to be confused? You've disproved nothing.
I didn't say I disproved it. I said
>if not disprove it, then make him a fucking lying asshole that shouldn't be worshiped even on the slight chance he exists
Therefore, if this god exists and he made the bible inconsistent and wrote things that are provably false, he's a lying asshole who shouldn't be worshiped.

Are all the negative numbers equal to zero? Oh, that's right, they aren't.

I'm not the same guy. No is the most likely answer to your question. If God doesn't exist then the answer is no, if He does, then the answer is probably no as well, because how do you apply the word masturbation to such a being.

You do have a mental illness though. I hope it gets corrected in this lifetime and you come to understand true things. Good luck!

Seruous question. If your god created humans using his image why the fuck does he looks evolved?
I mean why would he have a nose if he doesn't breath, hair if he is never cold, legs if he can just appear anywhere or eyes if he can just see whatever he wants?

Also why does he feels emotions?
He is a fucking weird ghost, no chemicals on his brain to make emotions happen, and no use for them if he has them. Love for his family won't be useful because he can just protect them with magic , and no anger needed if he can just eliminate everything.

It's dumb. If something like that existed it would just sit there and do nothing in space, there's no objective, no terrain to domain, females to breed, resources to consume. It has no ponit.

If he exists, you should be able to talk to him. Why blame him for allowing human beings to exist to write books? Would you rather he created slave robots with no creativity nor yearning?

Also, he neither needs nor desires worship. That's a people thing that's kind of dumb, but it is what it is.

>because how do you apply the word masturbation to such a being
Weren't we created in his image? Surely he has a functioning penis and hands. I bet he has a hairy asshole, too.

>Atheism is lack of belief
LOL

digits confirm, Jow Forums is too blind to see the truth

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Feel free to send me a negative amount of apples to my house, friend.

I suppose you're not a christian then, if that is what you believe. I can't deny a possibility of a supernatural being that could have created the universe or whatnot. What I can do, is deny the existence of a classical god, and the truthfulness of the descriptions made of this being by major religions that I know of. I do not have any mental illnesses that I know of, and I use vulgar imagery because it's kind of funny.

How does he create though? By speaking of course. If you'd like to mental gymnastics that into masturbation, then sure, words can mean whatever you want them to for you for how you define them. I have 17 penises.

You're probably a decent person.

Most religious people are idiotic, I confess, including the atheists and Christians. That said, the story of Abraham's God and of Christ is the one that best fits reality... It's also the only scenario where we actually logically win anything.

I mean, go ahead and use your credit card to buy anything you want without putting a dime on your account. The most you would be forced to pay is zero dollars!
Seriously, what is it with you guys and being retarded? This faggot is saying that logic doesn't real. You don't seem to believe in negative numbers. Are the stereotypes real?

Atheism is just a cult of pseudo-intellectual narcissism. They look down on religious people, because what kind of nincompoop could have access to the wealth of knowledge that is readily available today and not conclude atheism is the truth? Just like all those same nincompoops say about other nincompoops who disagree with them. Atheists are nincompoops.

>Prove there isn't an invisible unicorn

I would never think to shatter your belief system just because you're stupid. If the unicorn started to tell you to blow things up, that's different.

Stay the fuck on topic you absolute mong
We're not talking about whether a deity is worthy of worship, we're talking about whether it exists or not. Take one fucking second to stop tipping your fedora and make an argument to back up your position that it doesn't exist.

i think i was seven

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refute the problem of evil

>the story of Abraham's God and of Christ is the one that best fits reality
Can you give your reasons to think that?
> It's also the only scenario where we actually logically win anything.
It's not the only one. I can imagine a million scenarios like that if given time. But it's certainly better than complete non-existence, I can admit that.

Stephen Hawking already proved God doesn't exist, there are no gaps left for God to be smuggled into unfortunately

All logical systems we can produce are fundamentally flawed. This has been logically proven with deductive reasoning. You can feel free to look into it.

Negative numbers are an abstract concept invented and used by humans to do Jew stuff. Apples grow on trees, that's a tangible thing you can hold, debt is not. Evil is also an abstract thought. If two teams play in a sports game and one wins and the other loses, which one had a "bad" time? The result is the same for both, only from perspective can a quality like "good", "bad", or "evil" be applied. Children would stop dying of cancer aids if humans would quit breeding in this cesspit, but then that wouldn't be fair of God if he didn't let humans murder babies, would it?

If you're really going to get into whether God is evil, let's go straight to Christ. He pointed out specifically that His Father sent him to be murdered by psychotic monkeys with their dirty primate hands... He also said, "Father, why have you forsaken me?". He also said, no one is good save for the Father, knew full well that his Father was going to kill him, asked three times not to be killed, but went through with it anyways. Why? Because you and I are too retarded to understand anything but free gifts given from sacrifices. If we chose better, God would never have needed to do that, but in the end we get to learn the nature of "good and evil"... And you'll be saved even if and when you masturbate after murdering and cannibalizing cancer babies.

That's a yikes for me, leaf. I disproved the existence of a deity, just like you asked. The classical God. Now prove to me that you exist, faggot. I disproved a literal God, you should be able to do something as simple as that.

How can anyone prove such a thing? That would imply they have a greater understand of the universe than God. Which is obviously not true. He was probably just jealous because he knew he was going to die before he created a universe.

Evil is the choice to not do good. How many suffering people have you passed without helping today? When they die tonight, will you feel responsible?

No. It's not my fault that Democrats fucked everything up and pushed the homeless population through the roof.

>Not sure if bait

If something doesn't exist you have a greater understanding than it by definition

The only knowledge of the universe comes from us, as Carl Sagan said "we are a way for the universe to know itself"

when i was 12

Because, it's about love. Not movie romance faggot love, but actually caring about survival.

Notice how every biological thing in our universe has one specific motivation, to exist. God is no different, and the things he has created are an extension of him. This is why he cares/loves us. The Israelites were given laws to learn civility and to make their people strong, they had learned from their fathers to ask God for things.... God can't help, but give to those that acknowledge truth, in this case, him. This is why Jews lasted so long, he gave them true good rules to follow.

Part of those rules was to show them what they did wrong... Unfortunately, wrong things don't just stop existing once they happen, so he gave them a way they would accept to not feel guilty: sacrifices. Eventually, this sacrifice shit needed to stop though, so God took the ultimate sacrifice upon himself, he would both die, and be killed by men, to let mankind know whatever evil thing we might do, would not break God's love for us. All is forgiven, except to deny truth, which means ultimately denying one's existence at some point.

Where did all this evil come from to begin with?

No, he didn't. He also doesn't understand physics very well, sorry if you put your eggs there.

When the USSR starved and killed thousands of their own population in its name and still remained a shithole.

>All logical systems we can produce are fundamentally flawed. This has been logically proven with deductive reasoning
And you don't see any problem in that statement?
>You can feel free to look into it.
A link or an infographic would be nice.
>Negative numbers are an abstract concept invented and used by humans to do Jew stuff. Apples grow on trees, that's a tangible thing you can hold, debt is not. Evil is also an abstract thought.
That's true of all numbers, not just negative. And it's not only used to do jew stuff, it's also used for white stuff like computing and engineering. In nature, there is no "one" or "two".
>If two teams play in a sports game and one wins and the other loses, which one had a "bad" time? The result is the same for both, only from perspective can a quality like "good", "bad", or "evil" be applied. Children would stop dying of cancer aids if humans would quit breeding in this cesspit, but then that wouldn't be fair of God if he didn't let humans murder babies, would it?
>If you're really going to get into whether God is evil, let's go straight to Christ. He pointed out specifically that His Father sent him to be murdered by psychotic monkeys with their dirty primate hands... He also said, "Father, why have you forsaken me?". He also said, no one is good save for the Father, knew full well that his Father was going to kill him, asked three times not to be killed, but went through with it anyways. Why? Because you and I are too retarded to understand anything but free gifts given from sacrifices. If we chose better, God would never have needed to do that, but in the end we get to learn the nature of "good and evil"... And you'll be saved even if and when you masturbate after murdering and cannibalizing cancer babies.
This sounds like incomprehensible babbling of a raving lunatic. I don't care what is written in that book, and your virtue signalling is not convincing. Also, google capcha wants me to stop shitposting

And you let the Democrats do that, by refusing to stop them. If you'd have been killed, killing Democrats, you'd be a hero now with a clear conscience. Instead, you are a coward who has now been told the full weight of your conscience. It's okay, you're in good company, because most of us are cowards too. Accept the truth and learn.

>Dunning–Kruger: The Post

...

Good. We've established the problem.

The people who believe god(s) exist build their argument using the premise of their existence. The people who believe otherwise build their argument using the premise of their non-existence.

But I'm glad you brought up Sagan quote. Because you basically just undermined every atheist's point ever. "We are a way for the universe to know itself." In order for this to make even a modicum of sense, it demands that the cosmos itself possesses a primordial self-awareness. At this point, the atheist has to double-down of a very specific definition of the term 'god' in order to not be completely BTFO. Or they reject Sagan's notion completely - in which case, the only alternative is that humans are the ultimate intelligence in the universe. The fact that a human can even make this statement unironically is the ultimate proof that it is just plain false.

never go full retard, there's no such thing
as an atheist. just people who know of god
and wish to deny him pretending he doesn't
exist. that's retarded.

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>that youtube comment
Well, Jow Forums likes fucking jap girls and traps. Does that mean we're tolerant and progressive?

>took the final redpill of atheism
OP is wise beyond his years, well hung, and very good looking.

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No, I don't see a problem. It's true. All of our logical systems either produce false positives or fail to demonstrate true facts. You're not stupid, and I don't need to spoon-feed you. If you love logic, you can look up and find the proof of this, which is accepted everywhere, by everyone with a higher education.

Of course it's true of all numbers. Humans make abstractions, evil is one of those abstractions. As I told you, you wouldn't know evil it kissed you sweetly tonight and put its seed in your belly.

If you're going to suggest God is evil, you might as well know that Christ, as God, essentially called God evil. If you're unwilling to take ammunition for your cause then you might as well not speak about Christianity.

This is just a cheap bit of casuistry, Deepak Chopra tier.

The universe is unknowing, there is no "primordial self-awareness", consciousness arises within the cosmos as an emergent property, Sagan's quote is a poetic expression of that. It doesn't literally mean the universe is self-aware or that humans are God.

I'm sure stars can build art too.

The fact the consciousness is an emergent property of the universe, already dismisses the notion that a consciousness is definitively not a cause for our observable universe's current state. It doesn't prove God exists, by itself, but neither does it leave a leg for atheism to stand on.

You religiotards need to realise that atheism is on the rise all over the world, apart from the aberration of Islam which will likely have to be eradicated by force, the future is almost certainly Godless, and so we are better off finding moral ways of existing that don't require that assumption, rather than leaving it to the nihilists and communists.

This is predicted in the Book of Revelation, written over 1000 years ago. Just a heads up, I wouldn't get that thing in your right hand or forehead when it comes out, otherwise your problems are going to be a lot worse than feeling smug over others for behaving like idiots.

Logic was used to prove that logic cannot prove anything. No problem at all?
>which is accepted everywhere, by everyone with a higher education.
I mean, if you tell me how that conclusion was reached, I might accept it if I find it satisfactory. Without you presenting me any evidence, I can also reject this notion without any evidence. At least tell me what keyword I should search for. If this is accepted by everyone, then surely it's got a catchy theorem name.
>Of course it's true of all numbers. Humans make abstractions, evil is one of those abstractions. As I told you, you wouldn't know evil it kissed you sweetly tonight and put its seed in your belly.
I think that knowingly letting innocent children die while it would be in your power to prevent it is evil. Can we agree on that?
>If you're going to suggest God is evil, you might as well know that Christ, as God, essentially called God evil. If you're unwilling to take ammunition for your cause then you might as well not speak about Christianity.
The thing is, the christian argument is so paper-thin I don't need to be an expert to poke holes through it.
Also, cease with all of these appeals to authority.

>calling other religions "cucks", "fags" and "mentally ill"

Doing shit like this will only make people hate us even more.

>Consciousness arises within the cosmos
>The universe is not self-aware

So, you're saying that our consciousness is not, in fact, a "way for the universe to know itself"? And Sagan was just saying pretty words, with no bearing on anything? You're saying that our consciousness is our own, and has nothing to do with any consciousness possessed of the universe itself. In otherwords, you reject Sagan's notion entirely
>Predicted

I never said that "humans are God". I never claimed that atheists would say that either. Was I said was that, if you reject Sagan's notion entirely, then the only remaining alternative is that humans are the ultimate intelligence in the universe. Meaning, there is no intelligence more sophisticated than than our own meat-based central processing unit.

These are your only two options. Any other option demands the existence of alternative realms of existence, with other beings native to it, which might be intelligent in an entirely different way, perhaps more sophisticated, perhaps less, which forces you to, again, double down on a very narrow and specific definition of godhood in order to keep your platform intact.

>other religions
Ah yes, fellow brother in atheism, do you also have the trendy bald hair color?

Yes, humans (assuming there are no civilisations of higher intelligence) are the ultimate intelligence. You can reduce it to pretty words if you want, but they are actually important words insofar as they remind us of how unique our circumstances are. It is an antidote to the feeling of pointlessness.

Also don't knock meat-based processing units, they took rather a long time to evolve and will give rise to far greater intelligence than we can imagine.

Quoted wrong person, sorry time to sleep.

I agree our dumb Christian forefathers stop Hitler because of Christian good nature. Now look at us faggots freaks and niggers have destroyed the united states

>Dumb Christians stop Hitler because of good nature
>Churchill
>Good nature
>FDR
>Good nature

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This is where many (not all) atheists reach levels of rabid self delusion and stupidity. If God does not exist, if spirituality does not exist, then we are biological, deterministic machines acting out programming. We choose nothing. Everything we hold as having value such as love, family, moral values, are just accidental programming designed through evolutionary pressure to pass on our genes. Without spirituality life can only be deterministic. Deterministic life is inherently meaningless. Atheism can only be nihilism if you have the IQ and integrity to follow the philosophy through to it's necessary conclusions. That doesn't mean atheism is wrong, it just means that atheists that pretend meaning and atheism can co-exist in intelligent people are fucking stupid.

-can only lead to nihilism and nothing else-
in case the sentence structure was confusing.

PRAISE SOL

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Quite literally
In English it means not a theist

Never