My buddy is saying he wants to join I am a Catholic and I know that Catholicism and Masonry are said to be Incompatible. What are the main reasons Masonry is evil. Is it related to Satanism ? Is it related to Judaism ? It seems America was founded by Masons does that mean America was fucked from the start ?
Redpill me on the Masons
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Theyre not evil, just string pullers
i think they were good once but good infiltrated
and most masons are probably in the lower three degrees and don't really know what's happening
the lower ranks are probably filled with mostly good people and these rannks used as a recruiting ground for the more sinister stuff, i think
also, they require you to swear an oath
let's hear what the bible has to say about that:
Matthew 5:34-37 King James Version (KJV)
34 But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne:
35 Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.
36 Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black.
37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.
>i think they were good once but good infiltrated
this
My buddy and I joined in our late 20s 15 years ago. He's catholic, I'm not. I made it for about 2 years before I became bored with it. He's still in it and has been master of the lodge 2 or 3 times. So in short, join u if you want. It's harmless and nobody gives a fuck really.
i listened to some other speech of him, i think
from what i know of the occult, what he's saying nonsense
he is probably used to make people fake christians that listen to authority of preists and not the bible
there is in fact a lot of hidden knoledge in the bible, for example moses being instructed to but a serpent of a pole is a metaphor for kundalini (just like serpahim, the highest order of angels, are called fiery serpents which is another metaphor for kundalini)
>Redpill me on the Masons
FUCK OFF, JIDF
wait wait wait
once your in your in.
You have to attend the meetings.
>Masonry is evil.
Masonry isn't evil, your pedophile protecting Jesuits are the evil ones.
Their time is short.
i know a couple of boys in the lodge.
they agree with what he has said.
>Masonry isn't evil
Fuck off Jude
You know if your Catholic and join its actually an instant excommunication.
I joined freemasons and left after about 6 months, its boring as hell full of old people.
i really doubt it
remember the banker who spoke about child abuse and satanic rituals?
he die (((died))) not long ago
if this guy was telling the truth he'd probably be killed
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>Catholicism and masonry are incompatible
What about Catholicism, the Pope, and how you should bring in millions of muslims to your homeland.
I joined, went to the initiation, and never went back. Bunch of old men eating cake and drinking coffee.
>wait wait wait
>once your in your in.
>You have to attend the meetings.
stop watching edgy youtubers who think they know what is up. The Masons are just a bunch of faggot larping satanists, most don't even know what they are in, as far as your statement it is u n true. They are more like a union that a brotherhood, atleast at the lower level, if you don't go to meetings they will just black list you and not really give you the time of day.
>Jesuits
>literally Jewish infiltration into Catholicism
>Raping children
>Masons
>Fight those people for 1000 years
>Found free nations
You are backing the Jews. Cut off the popes head!
is that shit really only about handshakes, pancakes and shared holiday villas really?
No inside deals or anything actually interesting?
Macon include any belief.
They say Great Architect so it means any god or belief
when you get to the 33rd degree, pull your
pants down, time to open your eye.
THE MASONS ARE LITERAL DEMONS USED TO CRAFT THE THIRD TEMPLE SUCH AS THE ONES SOLOMON INVOKED
I heard Great Architect is Satan.
>america
>france
>argentina
>free
LMAO
Also implying the masons didn't get infiltrated by Adam Weishaupt and got fucked over again.
Their secret is this. Pic related. Yup, chroma key background...
Bankers get killed. Priests no one has heard of don't.
You get assfucked and give head to join the masons.
My uncle got invited. He only went to their big shack because they had a pool table.
He walked in, saw an old man bending over some 25 year old and shafting him. He walked right back out and hasn't contacted any of the people who recommended him.
Oddly enough the building got destroyed after they were caught fucking little boys there.
ALL masons are fucking homosexual cunts.
You mean that Dutch guy, Bernard something?
Fuckers still alive as of this summer. I saw the cunt in Birmingham airport, he was on my plane. He landed in Dusseldof and three weeks later when I went back home, fucker was there are.
freemasons are talmudic kikes of the worst kind
Irregular pls go
not anymore.
Wrong
Nope. Old dago Catholic church didn't give a single fuck. He's an usher there
>No inside deals or anything actually interesting?
Nope. Spend 45 minutes doing lodge shit, and 15 minutes of secretaries notes once a month.
Last time they said this was 1985 I think its actually still in place. Most people are just ignorant about the Masons .
just found some interviews with him,
seems he is still alive
did someone with a similar name get killed and people got confused or did i change timelines again?
but seems he actually is still alive
They were a men's club which was the Jow Forums of its time but now is fucking nothing.
Someone close to him got offed yeah.
Enjoy sucking old cock on the weekends for access to "secrets."
Red herrings for the Jews to hide behind.
>Look at the SYMBOLS, goy, not the nose!
I have no interest in joining. I am just looking for shit to talk on my buddy who wants to join.
The Catholic Church first prohibited Catholics from membership in Masonic organizations and other secret societies in 1738. Since then, at least eleven popes have made pronouncements about the incompatibility of Catholic doctrines and Freemasonry.[1] From 1738 until 1983, Catholics who publicly associated with, or publicly supported, Masonic organizations were censured with automatic excommunication.[2] Since 1983, the prohibition on membership exists in a different form.[3][2][4] Although there was some confusion about membership following the 1965 Second Vatican Council (Vatican II), the Church continues to prohibit membership in Freemasonry because it concluded that Masonic principles and rituals are irreconcilable with Catholic doctrines. The current norm, the 1983 Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith's (CDF) Declaration on Masonic associations, states that "faithful who enroll in Masonic associations are in a state of grave sin and may not receive Holy Communion" and membership in Masonic associations is prohibited.[6] The most recent CDF document about the "incompatibility of Freemasonry with the Catholic faith" was issued in 1985.[7]
It's an automatic excommunication, a bishop doesn't have to proclaim it. If he's taking communion then he's in mortal sin.
There are a lot od papal documents written about the evils of freemasonry, you can read them here:
fisheaters.com
Here is a good video from theologian Dr Taylor Marshall on this topic:
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It's related to Judaism and basically just watch out for anything with the star of david, it's actually the star of Moloch. You can see it in representations throughout history starting from about the 11th century, then you see the it pop up in things like alchemy, etc. As great as the alchemical sciences were, giving way to actual chemistry, it was pozzed from the start. Freemasonry and anything with remote connections to Jewish Satanism through the star will all suffer the same fate, subversion. Anyways this is more of a metaphysical argument as to why you should be cautious. I'm sure if you pop in for something, don't take the oath (since it cannot be done under your religion), try and see through the bullshit if you can, you'll be fine. Otherwise I'd suggest staying away from it.
that star of remphan think is a bit shady i think
where does it actually say that it is a six pointed star?
i think it's proibably the star of ishtar (pic related)
the star of david represents the male and female energies (upward triangle = male, downward triangle = female), it is in that aspect similar to the yin-yang symbol and even found in things like hinduism (for example the heart chakra chakra-anatomy.com
George Washington was a Mason and wrote this about Jews.
>May the children of the stock of Abraham who dwell in this land continue to merit and enjoy the good will of the other inhabitants — while every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and fig tree and there shall be none to make him afraid.
It could be that my information is pozzed. I did notice that, as you mentioned, in alchemy the upper triangle represents fire and the lower water. I just wanted to throw the information out to see if I could catch someone who could bring more light to the subject. I think perhaps you may be right, I'd need to look more into the star of ishtar, thanks for the pointer!
>merit and enjoy the good will of the other inhabitants
>merit
If he could see what was going on today, the important part of that sentence is null in void.
no problemo
Abrahamicrappers are so terrible they split into hundreds of societies and religions and fight between each other to test who is the shabboest goy ever. It is so tragic it is funny.
This video is legit the ultimate redpill.
Everything in this video is the truth, from American business financing the Nazis rise to power, everything, the trucks the nazis used to enter russia ran on Ford Engines, the JFK assasination, everything.
it also ties in nicely with the black cube
saturns wife is rhea/kybele(=cube)/ops
elites worship a black cub, a black kybele, so to speak, or even: a black ops? "the numbers, mason, what do they mean?"
i don't know if saturn or rhea are 'evil' but their followers don't seem like nice people, it could be that they are in the wrong
here's a yogi talking a bit about saturn youtube.com
It's a fraternity.
You network with brothers, get connections, help your brothers out, etc.
You hire and get hired by other brothers like any other fraternity.
It was more popular back then, especially since they founded the United States. It was like a secret society where people conspired to overthrow the British and start a revolution.
Of course, being the founders of the USA made them very influential and with influence comes with some dirty deeds.
Satan in the bible was a metaphor for human consciousness and choosing humanity over God (who is a metaphor for the natural order).
Satanism = humanism. Masons support humans and everything against God.
There's no actual red devil, that's a perversion from the Catholic church. When you thing of things symbolically it makes a lot more sense.
Tl;dr they are a frat gone awry
Do you know what the point of fraternities is? It’s to build underlying relationships and gaurenteeing assistance to other members in the future, business/politics related or otherwise. Now, the Freemasons, skull and bones society, etc. are made up of some of the most influential people in history, former presidents, high ranking to low ranking politicians, bankers, and so on. Now, tell me, why would the people ever want a secret organization of hidden members with such power gaurenteeing assistance due to simple membership and bonds built in such a fraternity? Why should our political and banking system be set up on such a “scratch my back I scratch yours” mentality? This is the same as a president-elect appointing a fellow fraternity member/good friend to a high position due to their pst of strategic assistance to eachother, this is unfair, it isn’t democratic (if you believe in that bullshit any), our system of governance and finances is supposed to be based on merit, not buddy systems that are for strategic profit.
Nobody can give you reliable information on the Freemasons, because they are a secret society. Anyone who is not a member, knows fuck all. Anyone who is, will lie to you.
>KEK
and Abraham Lincoln wasn’t a nigger hating railroad attorney who never sent gunboats to S.Carolina to enforce “United” tariffs of the North against the South, and don’t you ever think Lincoln espoused Henry Clay the Whig and love for “internal improvements,” i.e., “Public Works” programs, because we all know all public projects serve the public, good and all.
>merit
ah, and you know this, some merit runs smoother with a dab of...!
>let's hear what the bible has to say about that:
That it's okay, but keep your promises and don't promise what you can't do?
you aren't a catholic you fucking faggot mason kike
don't use my flag
and don't push mason faggotry
>hint: there is a lucifer temple at the bottom of the slc mormon temple
Your a faggot mason kike I've been a Catholic my whole life you nigger
t jew who got his cock sucked as an infant by a rabbi but has now joined the masons because judeomason values are supposedly le based and is getting assfucked in some homo lodge as he posts
>imagine being this naive, ignorant, or simply retarded
At least you got this part, “Anyone who is, will lie to you.”
>They lie to themselves and, ultimately, Lucifer is the good guy - the lower ranks won’t or don’t know - yes, Lucifer, just one of many connections to Judaism and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. What’s next, can’t know about the Jews nor the Mormons because I’m not allowed in the temples and because I haven’t read the Talmud or the Book of Mormon?
LOL no
catholics don't post mason threads you fucking KIKE BOI
what do you want to know about your own 33 club you fucking faggot?
>ama
>there is a lucifer temple at the bottom of the slc mormon temple
Is that a bad thing? And any pics?
>an abbo’s starhole
As I said before I wanted information so I could inform my friend about them because he told me he wanted to join them he is a Protestant. I want to convince him not to join them.
It's a religion based on King Solomon's temple. They are now reduced to a plebblit like circle jerk with the projection of power
Why do you want to convince him if you don't have information about why he shouldn't?
Top kek Jesus hit'em with the nay nay.
He is truly the son of God.
Because the one thing I do know about it is many Popes have spoken out against it saying its incompatible with Catholicism and joining is an instant excommunication also Hitler persecuted them.
Only a couple. And do you know why they did that?
>joining is an instant excommunication
Not anymore.
Nothing ive read suggests that is true I'm pretty positive it is still in place I could be wrong but I also don't particularly trust the current College of Cardinals(Definitely some good Cardinals in there still) or Pope if that was a decision that was made recently I trust the previous Popes words who did speak out against it over the current one or recent ones.
and No i'm not sure why they did that. That's why i'm attempting to gain more information on the subject.
My dad and brother are both masons, here's a few observations of them and the few of their friends that u know are also masons
>materialistic
>unabashed sexual deviants
>twofaced except to lodgemembers
>spiritually empty though claim to be Christian
>hard workers
>financially stable
I used to be pretty close with my brother until he joined when he was 21, since then he has become more of an insufferable prick. Take it for what it is.
It is still an excommunication latae sententiae.
>Nothing ive read suggests that is true
You should read the Code of Canon Law then.
It was political. They didn't understand it, didn't try to, and feared it as a rival instead of the ally it is. Basically, material (monetary) reasons caused it.
Try reading Freemasonry for Dummies or other intro books.
Not according to the Vatican.
1) Its Deist, therefore not Christian
2) Its moral relativistic, cause it accepts a lot of different and incompatible creeds
3) It spreads anti-catholicism in its history, helping destroying traditional catholic monarchies for liberal democracies
4) Its esoteric
According to the Vatican, it is still excommunication latae sententiae if you join the freemasons.
A dying organization with a bunch of very old men that gets nothing done.
>Its Deist,
Nope. It doesn't discuss religion at all.
>Its moral relativistic
Not really. It's scientific is all.
> It spreads anti-catholicism in its history
False. And how would you account for the millions of Catholic members in France, Spain, Italy, Poland, Germany, South America, and the Philippines?
>Its esoteric
So? Christianity is too.
Show me in the Code of Canon Law.
>Red pill me on this blue pill
What did OP mean by this?
Masons are nothing more than mediocre social climbers serving Jewish interests
The guy who said he wanted to join said you must proclaim to believe in God to join it. Also you aren't a member of the faith if your excommunicated.
Alright mason fags can I join if I'm covered in Nazi tattoos since you guys and Jews are best buds and all . I feel like you guys would sacrifice me but I keep seeing mason symbols everywhere so i feel like you want me to join
I just meant I wanted to know more about it.
Bro., for them, like the Jews they derive from and like the Mormons who copied from them, Lucifer is the best. It’s the ancient mystery religion of Babylon, they seek to rebuild the temple of Solomon, the Tower of Babel, their lore is centered around Hiram Abiff, they are of the builders, the line of Cain, they constantly seek the light (the dark light), and will transcend man and be as gods, and it’s in direct opposition to God. Any religion can join and their God is The Great Architect. Only God creates, an architect creates no new matter, a decorator, simply put, a builder, and they build men into the serpent... dare I go on?
William Cooper did a whole radio show series archived in the link, and also within is archived the Texe Marrs “Power of Prophecy” where he goes on about Judaism and Judaizers, Freemasonry, Mormonism, and, gasp, yes, Catholocism, all from a King James Bible believing Christian perspective. You cannot be a Mason and follow Jesus, after all, you can only serve one, and all trapped in Freemasonry, which includes Southern Baptists to Muslims and any and all between are spiritually dark, masquerading as light, just as Satan and his ministers.
2 Corinthians 11:14-15 King James Version (KJV) 14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
remnantradio.org
Mystery Babylon, The Lost Light, etc.
remnantradio.org
Power of Prophecy
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Also, check out Dr. Stanley Monteith, a retired orthopedic surgeon, now deceased, from old school Prophecy Club, along with this character Bill Schnoebelen, at least for his synthesis on Freemasonry, etc. Peace to you.
It isn't in the Canon Law anymore, but it doesn't matter. Ratzinger as the member of the CDF issued a letter condemned it in 1983: vatican.va
> Nope. It doesn't discuss religion at all.
Doesn't mean they aren't deists (they are).
> Not really. It's scientific is all.
They don't adhere to the Catholic morality, therefore their moral is subjective.
> False. And how would you account for the millions of Catholic members in France, Spain, Italy, Poland, Germany, South America, and the Philippines?
Heretics. Freemasony conspired against the Church in all its history, as the Popes who condemn it teaches said.
> So? Christianity is too.
LMAO. Stop reading Guenon, you are becoming retarded.
From what I heard it´s GREAT, at first.
Forget about the weird occult shit, you´re going to have VERY down to earth consequences.
AT FIRST the brothers will help you out in every way possible.
They´re everywhere and EACH ONE has to "pay back" by helping a fellow brother out.
You will rise up and accrue DEBT. Now you´re one of them.
Welcome to Hell, aka the rest of your life.