Cortez and the new party

LFTR

Me too. She is smoking hot. Maybe that would be the counter to the problems proposed in the OP

>but the Democrats were thiiiiis close to running him in 2016 and we will see more of him in 2020.
are you retarded?

your threads are changing people minds, just not in the way you think...

Imagine being so thirsty that you white knight for a politician you will never meet let lone have sex with.

I bet she sucks cock for votes in her favor...

>What if the democratic party is FORCED, out of the laws of their own narrative

Don't be so naive. The left wing in general, including the Democratic Party, has an almost magical fractal hypocrisy that literally never ends.

It's one of their greatest spells. It's yet to be defeated. Internal consistency alone doesn't. Neither do noble goals combined with internal consistency. What now?

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Why are there so many threads about this dumb bitch?

>100% green energy in 10 years
lmao good luck with that just look at germany with our great change hahaha

NEED TO PROJECT VERITAS THAT SHIT!!!

Mommy will fix it for us

I don't know buddy. I dont know. Sit back. Think a little more. Who knows...

She is the Donald Trump of the democrats. Thats why...

Every one point and laugh at this person.

Jow Forums is afraid she might have IT and others might like that she have IT...

Do everything you can to support her if she tries to make her own party. It would fracture the democratic party to the point that republicans would sweep

There are more important politicians out there than just her, Clinton will probably run first.

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Oh, please, let her be in charge of the democrats.

Thats what I'm thinking. I hope she succeeds in becoming queen of the dems. A republican like Romney or Cruz would CRUSH that bitch.

She is our little agenda 21 inactor.

Fuck Romney, he had his chance.

tits to big. sorry. too big... about 70% that size is max.

I'm right there with you. Statement was ment to be in the context of a debate. Romney would run circles around here. So would Cruz. Really just about any man who has an above average IQ and has followed politics for more than 6 months.

100% 'renewable' in 10 years just isn't possible. To simply upgrade the electric grid to make use of micro generation, stop damage from wind turbines and handle the massive output swings from solar would cost over 10 trillion. And that doesn't generate a single new watt of power.

On the grid you cycle AC power and that power locks every generator into sync. When your generator falls behind or goes to fast it actually gets pulled slightly back into line. Go too far and your generator is going to become out of sync and generally a shear pin will break disconnecting your generator from it's power source (what is spinning to make power). With wind turbines they sync to the grid but are constantly changing speed. Depending on if they are trying to do mechanical matching with gears or are using variable frequency electronics to rectify the power you get slightly different outcomes.

With the variable frequency the input side is constantly changing and the electronics are trying to speed it up or slow it down to match the 60Hz grid. But the wave form made is not a smooth curve like you get with a mechanical generator, but it's a square output with at most a few square steps down. This causes the whole grid to fight slightly against the power wind turbines make. You can see this when you drive towards big wind farms and day to day can see the power lines droop more or less depending on the output the wind farm is making. Even if demand is low if the farm makes a lot of power it causes the wires transmitting the power to heat up slightly and droop.

This heating is wasted power and causes transformers to undergo more stress and produce more waste heat.

What's even worse is when you have two large wind farms a distance away from each other that can set up harmonic waves in the power. Do that long enough or with enough output and some other random generator blows it's shear pin and is off line.

FUCK MICRO-GENERATION.

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What's more likely, that the left is so insane that they'll keep pushing further and further left just for the sake of it, or things are really shitty right now and leftist like her are resonating with voters who feel that democrats are just socially progressive republicans who will never answer why workers in the US are getting fucked.

holding the cat only make her tits bigger...look at the size of that cat head

>Trump releases hidden technology including free energy
>Goblina's plan ????
>?????
>Profit!

Reverse image search shows nothing, where did you get this?

i wanna see her tits so fukcin bad

How do you do a reverse image search?

I wonder if she has an ex-boy-friend holding onto some nudes. Just waiting for the right moment.

Don't wind farms go from AC to DC and then back to AC before connecting to the grid? Been awhile since I did anything electrical, but shouldn't that solve the problem?

im gonna go to one of her rallies and yell, "SHOW US YUR TITS." and its gonna be epic.

Now with solar you have to deal with clouds. Clouds go over your solar farm and output drops by 70% in the span of however long it takes for the clouds to move over your panels. This power drop needs to be matched by some other source of generation and the only system fast enough is gas turbines.
So for every solar plant you need running gas plants equal to about 80% of the output of the solar. You also need to be able to drop output just as quick.

If you say what about batteries, then you need to look at the massive cost of even the cheapest battery sources. Generally they run about $1 per kw-hr while generation runs about $0.02 to $0.25 per kw-hr. Which is an economic way of saying 4 to 50 times as much and not viable.

A CMO is a cubic mile of oil energy equivalent. In the next 50 years we will need to add 1CMO of energy generation to keep up with best case energy demand. And actually we are already 8 years into our 50. Look how much solar and wind would need to be built to just keep up with new demand not even converting the current 3.7CMOs being used.

FUCK SOLAR TOO.

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God help us all

its gonna fuck with her party and divide them, or they will shut her out completely, either way its gonna be a hell of a ride

>eternal boomer strikes again

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Zuckerberg / Cortez
You read it here first.

This is how mutts get made.

boomer makes 120k a year but cant open a pdf

>Don't wind farms go from AC to DC and then back to AC before connecting to the grid? Been awhile since I did anything electrical, but shouldn't that solve the problem?
Square waveform that's not matching the smooth mechanical generation curve.
It's not important on small scales, but when you start talking about grid level applications you start seeing full percents of loss and that adds up.

Also my objection was just about the transmission issues. Guess what? Wind has other issues that make it useless too.

good easy win for trump

Good.. good.. fracture and divide yourselves Dems the 2020 elections will be glorious.

Bernie Sanders has decided to stay Independent and not join the Democrat party. Why do you think that is? It's because the Democrat establish knows that if they go too far to the left, they will lose.
She is spic Bernie Sanders, but she is taking over the Democrat party. I'm really feeling that Latina burn right now.
Jow Forums may be resented for their role in elevating her to lead the Democrat but, but they need her and more people like her, because without women people of color, the Democrats will not survive.

Post feet.

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She better change the party. It's a joke

Might actually start paying attention to project veritas if they are able to pull that shit off.

Wrong. She will run circles around them. She will make them look like arrogant assholes. Too easy. Next! The natural response to Lexy's anti-white social programs is Trumpian and implicitly white. She's exactly the polarizing figure we need at this point.

Another issue of the full 'renewable' grid is that it's very hard to establish the 60Hz baseline with only all small generators. Pic related is from Australia (who gave them electricity?). What happened is a storm took out a transmission line cutting the state off from the huge coal fire generator that they didn't use for much power but did use for holding the 60Hz beat as it were.

They had enough generating capacity to meet demand even without that transmission line, but they couldn't fix the beat to force every other supplier to match them. Note that little blurp of power when they tried to restart the grid. SPOILERS it fucking failed.

Without huge multi MW generators you can't have enough 'force' to get all the other generators to sync up. You could do it with hydro electric and still be 100% "renewable" but that's not possible for everyone everywhere.

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My hope is to make her the face of the democratic party and hope the republicans can muster some decent fucking people to win easily against her

Honestly think it's hilarious, I hope they sow more division. Republicans have been dealing with this for years with the libertarians and Tea Party. I'd love to see the Democratic party just as fractured and weak, unlike the GOP they've mostly been able to keep their members aligned and working toward the same goals in the past.

>someone who praises trump as a symbol of conservatism projects his hypocrisy on others
Wow laddo, get back to plebbit you illegal

I have great hope for Cortez, she deserves to become our ruler.

I completely disagree
An IQ level of at least 85 will do the job.

See the biggest problem you're having here is that you keep specifying that we need centralised power generation.

In a word fuck that, just pass a law that every new house must have one solar panel (up to some dimensions and rating) and one smaller wind turbine. Chuck in some power subsidies for existing homes and you're basically done.

New houses give 250k per year in the US alone, if the subsidy is enough that the break even point on local generation comes in less than 10 years, then you're basically set for a reasonably large uptake.

Bernie is staying an Independent because he knows the Democrat brand is fucking rancid and corrupt. If Trump had a better head on his shoulders, he would have immediately announced himself either Indie or some new, Trump created party when he became president, since the Republican brand is equally dogshit.

Every time they have to defend her, they're stuck that much deeper with her.

Cortex is a PSYCHOPATHIC KILLER

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5 fucking current threads, her shills are here in force

indeed they are,bump mine that colors her as a psychopath and spread the meme in it

>In a word fuck that, just pass a law that every new house must have one solar panel (up to some dimensions and rating) and one smaller wind turbine.
And when they want power after the sun sets?
Or want more power than can be generated?
Back to $1 per kilowatt hour power. Fuck that. I'll take 2 cent power from a nuclear plant. You can pay 50 times more for power, but I won't.

>New houses give 250k per year in the US alone
250k per DAY.
>if the subsidy is enough that the break even point on local generation comes in less than 10 years
It's not breaking even if you are subsidizing it.

Maybe your right. After all, no one likes critical thinking or realistic policies. maybe we are all truly fucked.

Print it out and stick it up your ass

>Want more power after the sun sets
Wind, solar, + batteries. Those things have gotten pretty good in the last few years.

>250k per day
The US builds 250k new houses per year,

>Not breaking even if you're subsidizing
No, you're setting the break even point for people purchasing the equipment for their own homes you've also just ditched all the costs for your power plants.

>Wind, solar, + batteries. Those things have gotten pretty good in the last few years.
Yeah down to just 4 to 50 times more expensive than generation. It would be cheaper to have a backup diesel generator for every home than it would be to install batteries.
>The US builds 250k new houses per year,
And you need 250k new solar roof top installations every day for 50 years to meet new demand. Which ignores current supply that would need to be replaced.

>No, you're setting the break even point for people purchasing the equipment for their own homes you've also just ditched all the costs for your power plants.
You can't subsidize something to make it cheaper if you tax the people getting the subsidy to pay for it.

>You can't subsidize something to make it cheaper if you tax the people getting the subsidy to pay for it.
YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP AND STOP USING LOGIC RIGHT NOW!

Shes so pure.

Shes just a walking meme of childrens programming and marxist indoctrination. Its really cute desu.

>Cheaper
Cheaper short term, meanwhile the price of oil doesn't stop going up as we run out of the damned stuff.

>250k per day
I said 1 solar + 1 smaller roof mounted windmill didn't I?
You only need to hit 3M windmills which isn't too hard. Solar is just redundancy

>You can't subsidize something to make it cheaper if you tax the people getting the subsidy to pay for it.
I mean you could premise this over "yes, that's the point of a tax incentivisation scheme, you get to functionally pay less tax if you spend the money on a particular thing", so yes the good is cheaper as tax is already "dead money" in the same way that "let to buy" schemes turn dead money into an asset.

And secondly, you're missing the other taxes you get from business, imports and the money saved by not running the power plants.

>>Cheaper
>Cheaper short term, meanwhile the price of oil doesn't stop going up as we run out of the damned stuff.
Then we switch to directly making the fuel we want by synthetic means rather than by refining oil to make it.
youtube.com/watch?v=G8zOHZINyG8
youtube.com/watch?v=Q1Fi3BnwL94

k per day
>I said 1 solar + 1 smaller roof mounted windmill didn't I?
That won't meet the growing demand for power. And what are you going to do for the 63% of the population that lives in high density housing? How do they get power?

>You only need to hit 3M windmills which isn't too hard. Solar is just redundancy
3M windmills if were massive 2MW units would provide enough power for about 20 million people. And would raise the cost of electricity by a factor of 10.

>I mean you could premise this over "yes, that's the point of a tax incentivisation scheme, you get to functionally pay less tax if you spend the money on a particular thing", so yes the good is cheaper as tax is already "dead money" in the same way that "let to buy" schemes turn dead money into an asset.
What are you not funding with the taxes to pay for this? Either you raise taxes or you cut spending, but you don't get to use a subsidy to lower the cost.

>And secondly, you're missing the other taxes you get from business, imports and the money saved by not running the power plants.
You mean the money not saved by using vastly more expensive sources of power. Further if you are taxing businesses more they will simply raise prices to makeup any loss. You can't install more expensive in every aspect generation and save money.

It would be like going from paying $10 to install and $5 to run, to paying $30 to install and $15 to run and claiming to be saving money.

>pure
full of shit psychopath

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>Cheaper short term, meanwhile the price of oil doesn't stop going up as we run out of the damned stuff.
Price of oil isn't going up

>You only need to hit 3M windmills
I dont know if that is true or not. but you say that as if you don't know what 3 million means,

> mean you could premise this over "yes, that's the point of a tax incentivisation scheme, you get to functionally pay less tax if you spend the money on a particular thing", so yes the good is cheaper as tax is already "dead money" in the same way that "let to buy" schemes turn dead money into an asset.
You say that as if its a moral thing to do. What are you going to say next? If we dont do something in 10 years then we will live in the "Waterworld" movie?

This makes me feel better about the crazy republicans I voted for.

I'm a fan of her for accelerationist reasons. The sooner politics gets taken over by stupid mestizas, the sooner we can repudiate the system and start rebuilding.

I'd say she's more of a sarah palin.

>Use nuclear reactors to build hydrocarbons from hydrogen and electrolysed sea water.

It's cheaper to just use the hydrogren, that's an incredibly inefficient method of generating synthetic fuels. There's a reason we don't use these things at the moment; they're way too costly to produce. The only reason these talks are even suggesting it is because they have physical difficulties in accessing regular sources of fuel but have easy access to nuclear reactors.

>3M windmills if were massive 2MW units would provide enough power for about 20 million people. And would raise the cost of electricity by a factor of 10.
Again, distribute smaller ones, Australia only has ~25 million people, if everyone had a 1W windmill the problem would be gone. Decentralised systems also mean that you can sell back your power into the grid to negate price issues, and that overall you should be running neutral and not paying for power.

>You can't install a more expensive generation and save money
Back to the beginning m8, we're subsidising so that we don't have to pay most of the installation cost. Use the tax incentives to go from your $10 to install, $5 to run, to $30 to install, $15 back in tax credits, and running is free if not positives from selling back into the system.

>Price of oil isn't going up
>Oil production fell by more than 250,000 barrels a day in the last three months
>Pick one

You say that as if its a moral thing to do. What are you going to say next? If we dont do something in 10 years then we will live in the "Waterworld" movie?
I mean you didn't actually respond to what I said, but no, I'm pointing out that relying on a finite resource that requires us to bend ass over backwards to a bunch of countries in the middle east is a poor long term strategy, and that we would probably be better off it we weren't beholden to foreign interests.

Sorry, my reply to user b is also in here in the second bit.

Dont lie.

Thats just suprise. Shes innocent like a child. She believes people want to make the world a better place but dont know how.

She doesnt understand that these are weaponized lies to make the population act in certain ways.

Its so sweet. I just want to support her. I dont want to see her heart broken senpai.

>Dont lie.
>Thats just suprise
yeah no, the text is clear

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you retarded shills realize the more you post this crap about this idiot, the more we hate her and dedicate our time to making memes about this dumb goblin

she can run her mouth. any one can. it doesnt mean they actually have support. the media just hype this stuff because they think it helps women in the country

>It's cheaper to just use the hydrogren
Not when you factor in getting to keep 100% of the distribution infrastructure and every current ICE the massive energy losses of hydrogen compression are just the icing on the extra cost cake.

The compression costs of hydrogen alone make it worse than batteries, which are in turn worse than liquid fuels. Hydrogen is a terrible fuel source because of it's physical properties. Mix it with carbon and you have a great fuel source.

>Again, distribute smaller ones, Australia only has ~25 million people, if everyone had a 1W windmill the problem would be gone. Decentralised systems also mean that you can sell back your power into the grid to negate price issues, and that overall you should be running neutral and not paying for power.

I will assume that 1W is 1MW and that's overkill even with wind getting a utility of about 20%. You decentralized system will cost the USA about 10 trillion to upgrade to allow your micro generation shuttling of spare power.
That you think you can get power without paying for it is stupid. How did the generator get built? How is it maintained?

>Back to the beginning m8, we're subsidising so that we don't have to pay most of the installation cost. Use the tax incentives to go from your $10 to install, $5 to run, to $30 to install, $15 back in tax credits, and running is free if not positives from selling back into the system.
Subsidies don't lower the cost they just distribute it. If we are going to switch to everyone getting solar and wind then everyone will need to pay for it and no one gets a free lunch by subsidies.

You can't use a subsidy to lower the cost that does not work.

>I'm pointing out that relying on a finite resource that requires us to bend ass over backwards to a bunch of countries in the middle east is a poor long term strategy, and that we would probably be better off it we weren't beholden to foreign interests.
Thanks to fracking the USA is an exporter of oil.

She is pretty. But has those crazy eyes. She has a couple things going for her. Minority token canidate, appeals to the youth, and has the energy to rile shit up. She is going to be a nightmare for the NY democrats. It's too early to see how far she will get up the political ladder. She could be another Bernie stuck in one of the far corners of the US with a small loyal voter base. But, I think she can really grow in a place like NYC. Interesting times indeed.

>She is pretty.
ahem

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I work in petroleum research and guess what, wind turbines use oil. And lots of it. Spinning metal on metal requires lubrication. There’s no free lunch

she and others like her are the future. there's like 4 or 5 others just like her that got voted in - its a pattern and the dems rightly figure its a winning formula now

Fuck off with these threads

>Not when you factor in getting to keep 100% of the distribution infrastructure and every current ICE the massive energy losses of hydrogen compression are just the icing on the extra cost cake.

My point is that the suggestions they are providing for synthetic fuels are shit and that the only reason they're even being brought up are because of a niche case where you happen to have a nuclear reactor on hand. Hydrogren is also not the best.

Australia runs for 25 million people at around 300MW, so a grand total of 150 of your 2MW windmills would cover the entire population. We could make it 300,000 1kw mills, at 40k each, which comes to $12Bn. The US has a population of around ten times that, so total cost is still less than a trillion dollars.

So no, you seem to have significantly overpriced your windmills.

>Subsidies don't lower the cost they just distribute it.
They lower the apparent cost to the individual, which redistributes some of the starting cost from the government to the individuals. The individuals have the option to try to make their starting money back by selling power to the grid. Your "free money" comes from that we've now effectively shorted the power companies and are using that as an incentive.

And secondly, yes it does, we're lowering the relative cost to both parties; if the government were to do it alone it would cost n * $B, if an individual were to do it alone it would cost $B, so if n individuals do it, and the government contributes half the cost for a total of 0.5 * n * $B, then the relative cost to each party has decreased. The total cost is still the same.

>Thanks to fracking the USA is an exporter of oil.
And how's that going for your ground water? Something about flint?

Use a graphite or some other lubricant, there are other options out there than hydrocarbons.

they think she will appeal to us, demorats are ghey

Only the ancients ones know.... a dark art.... only taught to those who won't abuse its power

>Rekikelicans freaking out over a woman taxing the rich more

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>a niche case where you happen to have a nuclear reactor on hand.
Because that's how we will power things in the future. With thorium breeder reactors making electricity by day and fuel by night.

>Australia runs for 25 million people at around 300MW, so a grand total of 150 of your 2MW windmills would cover the entire population.
Your math is crazy wrong.
"At the end of 2015 electricity generating capacity was 67 gigawatts"
That's 67,000MW of generating capacity.
world-nuclear.org/information-library/country-profiles/countries-a-f/appendices/australia-s-electricity.aspx

So I'm just going to read but not reply to everything that followed due to your wrong numbers.

>They lower the apparent cost to the individual, which redistributes some of the starting cost from the government to the individuals.
Every dollar in subsidy is either debt borrowed by the government or taxed from the people. A subsidy doesn't lower the cost.

>The individuals have the option to try to make their starting money back by selling power to the grid.
Which the grid generally doesn't want and more so with solar.
youtube.com/watch?v=2zD0m_ci-oo
TL;DW Solar producers will sell extra solar power for any price, due to base load generation and the mechanics of grid level generation that price drops to $0 during the day. This is show by the CA so called Duck Curve (pic related).

>The total cost is still the same.
Which means building all our generating capacity again, only using more expensive produces.

>And how's that going for your ground water?
Fine.
>Something about flint?
Nothing to do with fracking.

>Use a graphite or some other lubricant, there are other options out there than hydrocarbons.
What do you think graphite is and where most of it comes from? It's the tail ends of refined oil that's nearly 100% carbon.

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