... for 60+ years Auto Manufactures had fuel vaporization technology that would have solved the "oil crisis" and eliminated smog problem, as well as kept engines clear of soot and carbonization.
Supressed Inventions: 376 Miles Per Gallon in 1959 !!!
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when will this snopes urban legend just die. this is the kind of shit they were sending in email forwards back in the 1990s
If oil companies could have made cars that went 300mpg, they would have done it and then just raised the price of gasoline to be $50/gal. You think it's a coincidence that gas is priced just in the sweetspot to bilk the average worker out of 5% of his monthly income? Nope, that shit is planned.
>american education
My oh my... Where do I start?
The reason why this didn't work is due to the residual carbon content in the oil you extract from the ground. The content is too high to undergo reverse induction. Conventional methods could not remove them completely but would work just fine on ICE's. For vaporization to occur, these residual carbon must be eliminated up to 96.5%. The costs to do this is enormous up to this day. If they did it back then, you'd have your oil crisis earlier.
I was going to say this. They would either claim that it's really rare, or it's super hard/costly to extract and process into gasoline/diesel.
Burning really lean is very fuel efficient but its too hot for your engine.
It's real. They even knew about this 100 years ago in 1918, back at the very beginning.
Standard Oil tried to control the price of oil domestically but was broken up as a monopoly. So the oil industry had to go international to form their monopoly - it's called OPEC - and artificially restrict the supply to raise prices. They couldn't do that inside the US so they used "environmentalists" to shut down domestic production. Trump is trying to reverse all that. Governments want consumers to waste gas because the gas tax gives them huge revenues. Auto manufactures are prevented from doing improvements - by the pretext of "air quality" regulations.
Trump needs to do something about this.
Good insight. Yep, as the average person's gas consumption goes down, gas prices will rise accordingly to make sure the money continues to flow. Gas taxes can rise when the gas price rises, so the government won't give a shit. And the majority of the tax burden will be placed on rural and suburban whites who have to drive many miles to work, and who have to go 10 miles to get to their nearest shopping place. Urbanites and niggers will still continue using public transportation, subsidized by taxes being paid by white people.
What fucking oil crisis?
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vapor doesn't do anything.
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>your
engine
because that's how they make them
>Gas taxes can rise when the gas price rises
No, taxes are per/gallon, so if you use less you pay less. That's why with switch to electric cars the governments are trying to find a way to tax everybody based on miles driven instead. Same thing is making govt mad at vaping - how will they collect all their tobacco taxes?
ask a boomer.
>376 mpg with vapour-injection
>over 6000000 mpg with molten salt thorium reactor
YOUR DREAMS ARE PETTY
The vaporization is the gas fumes that will burn instead of spayed liquid gasoline. When you add heat and pressure also, that's when they got super high MPG engine efficiencies.
Not really. It makes toxic gasses and only moderatly improves fuel efficiency.
the thing that gets me is that there is only so much energy on a gallon of gas and it isnt 400 mpg no matter how you cut it. Maybe 60-70 mpg for an suv if you had a perfect thermodynamic transfer.
Anyway the future is obviously micro nuclear fusion.
If vaporized gasoline can burn perfectly the exhaust would just be carbon dioxide, water vapour, and nitrogen.
Not suppressed but certainly hidden/obscure
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If your engine converted 100% of the chemical energy in gasoline into mechanical energy you still wouldn't get that kind of mpg. 1gal gasoline has about 33000 kcal energy, modern engines can burn it at around 20-25% efficiency.
holy shit what a retarded post. go back to banging underage boypuss, sex tourist
You would still have to work against Oxides of Nitrogen due to the heat and pressure of combustion.
using guns to shoot automobile drivers also solves the oil crisis
>only so much energy on a gallon of gas
Instead of a 14/1 mixture air/gasoline, now through vaporization, heat, and pressure drive it up to 1000/1, and burn perfectly all the gasoline, including methane, carbon monoxide, and hydrogen, then the exhaust is inert CO2, H2O, and N.
Once I get the millions I'm owed by a Nigerian prince I'll build one.
>tfw no nuclear powered cars
Not pursuing nuclear because of some hippie idiot protests was the biggest mistake mankind has ever made.
Travel to mars and even to outside the solar system was achievable in the 70s
good shit, glad someone posted this
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Fuck the Rockefeller family.
Our gas prices are down to 115.9 today, 118.9 yesterday and predicted to drop to .99 tomorrow, something is happening.
>heated fuel
thats probably why it never reached production.
Build one then faggot
>heat and pressure
This kills the average auto owner.
The idea is to burn the fuel perfectly in the engine to begin with at the correct mixture, instead of wasting it as NOx that's burned off in the catalytic converter.
thats nothing. they already have anti-gravity. free energy
Yes I noticed that too looks like a huge law suit.
5 min intro, saved for later, looks promising.
thats a moray eel.
>So the oil industry had to go international to form their monopoly - it's called OPEC
You're a fucking retard. First of all, plenty of OPEC nations have *NATIONALIZED* any private oil interests (e.g. they forced them to become government owned). Second of all, OPEC's not *REAL*. OPEC Nations can barely agree on anything. It's a good day when they can agree on oil production goals. On a bad day they launch military invasions of each other (e.g. Iraq & Kuwait).
Fuck off with your Big-Oil, Robber-Baron, Reptilian-Jew-Mason-Illuminati conspiracy crap.
Are you fucking retarded? You literally just described how ICEs work. Liquid gasoline doesn't burn, which is why fuel injectors atomize the fuel and the vapors burn. The heat and pressure is from compression in the cylinder and the spark plug igniting and producing an even flame front. You can't be this fucking retarded.
If it were actually true that a "guy in his garage" made a 300+ mpg car everyone would use it. The fact they make stupid claims like this without explaining HOW its achieved means its bullshit. If its being suppressed, why not just TELL US?
We may never reach perfect combustion, there are too many variables such as atmospheric pressure, temperature, and the stoichiometry is constantly changing due to engine load and the demand for more chemical energy. NOx is an unfortunate byproduct of combustion due to the atmosphere being comprised of mostly nitrogen hence why we have the Rhodium on the Catalytic converter to strip the NOx through a chemical reaction but for this catalyst to occur you need to have a rich air/fuel mixture otherwise you won't achieve the desired chemical reaction from the Rhodium.
In the event of a perfect combustion we're talking about a stoichiometric level of 14.7:1 AFR, the efficiency of the Catalyst would be very poor without any form of Lambda feedback system. In other words you need a slightly richer AFR to successfully use a catalyst to reduce NOx.
But they suppress it with their magic information suppression beams, nevermind some dickface on youtube is showing it, no one else can figure it out.
Lol fags, get rid of your cars and watch how much you save each month. Literally paid off all my debts after I got rid of my car and have not looked back.
engines take in air specifically oxygen and burn that.
With an air ratio of 14:1 and air being 1/5 oxygen. 3 grams of oxygen is used per gram of gasoline to produce work.
so 1 gallon of gasoline produces 132,000 kcal when combined with air in an internal combustion engine.
now if an engine was ran at 100% efficiency with the appropriate cooling mechanisms and a car was inserted with an oxygen tank to run a super lean mixture to maximize oxygen burn, a gallon of gasoline with perfect oxygen could make many times more energy than 132,000kcal.
There is a reason planes have ceilings at which they can no longer operate. And why cars have o2 sensors.
My ebike gets 540 eMPG. Cars are for fat retards.
If you wouldn't act like an asshole to mask your stupidity when you ask questions, that would be great. Vaporization means it's just fumes and air pulled in, there is no fuel pump or injectors, and then the piston fires normally. To convert the gasoline into vapour fumes beforehand takes heat and pressure, that aids in the vaporization. Here's a patent showing spirals device that adds heat and pressure to help convert liquid gas into fumes ready to go into the engine.
Stoichiometrix ratio is perfect combustion at 14.7 parts air to 1 part gasoline. (Changes depending on what fuel is used)
Increasing that ratio only incidentily increases efficiency
You than confuse compression ratio's (i think because their is litterally no purpose in burning 1000 parts air to 1 part gasoline as it would just make a super ineficient and powerless engine) but assuming you meant a compression ration of 1000:1 that just means you can burn more gas in a smaller package. true purpose is to generate more power in a smaller package. Or more power per litre in different terms.
Anyway I think their are 44000 kj in a gallon of gasoline. The chemical energy in the hydrocarbon chains is quantifiable.
>boomer
You mean baby boomers?
If you were able to somehow produce 100% efficiency, there would be no need for cooling as you would have no heat/friction losses. This of course is not possible. Also, oxygen isn't burning, come on.
Explain how that is different than how gasoline burns, cause that is literally the only way gas will burn, it has to vaporize. This is why you can put out a fucking cigarette in liquid gasoline, as it won't burn as a liquid. You are literally retarded. There are no magic physics some dipshit in his garage figured out. Thanks for the non-referenced and poorly drawn diagram of nonsense.
Boohoo face the facts burger. Your country is dumb.
>self-portrait
He did explain and they do show the engine.
True and checked.
If you achieve perfect combustion you don't need any catalytic converter.
Then it should be easy to reproduce as he is not privy to magic that others don't have, unless you think literally every person with any ability to do this is being suppressed by some world conspiracy, he could just mass produce these things and hand them out. Hell, he could just give the plans out to everyone and they would be everywhere. For fuck's sake, they can't even keep gun plans for 3d printers secret.
Then how come it's not being replicated by everyone and their dog? How come YOU haven't built one? If this thing was supposedly around since 1918, then the machining required in building it could be done pretty much by anyone today.
Alright hotshot here's the thing. If car engineers actually could build a car that goes 376mpg, they'd do it and they'd be the hottest shit in the world.
There's no reason to suppress this. You think all car manufacturers are these oil slaves? If Audi released a car with this mileage but Ford didn't, Ford would stop existing. Everything adjust to technological progress, it doesn't suppress. The only exception is like the concorde because I think that was kinda shady.
Nah bro, they are all suppressed by the oil conspiracy, they literally go door to door the second someone figures it out and either murders them or silences them, this guy of course was able to get it out to random conspiracy retards on the internet, but ignore that.
Combustion would still produce NOx. It is a byproduct of combustion from the heat and pressure. You're converting chemical energy into a mechanical function from a hydrocarbon fuel source. In the event of combustion you're oxidizing the Hydrocarbon fuel from the oxygen but don't forget we're also dealing with the Nitrogen in the atmosphere and when you put the two together in an environment such as an engine's cylinder you get NOx. You cannot avoid NOx even in a perfect combustion, it's everywhere.
I love how these threads go. So many shills trying to tell you that such technology could never exist.
Higher o2 purity would only make the compression ratio higher.
So if you had pure O2 (youd need so fuckinc much it would be impracticable) you could get 5 times the compression ratio.
So a high efficiency car gets a 14:1 compression ratio on premium, this would become a 70:1 ratio meaning 5 times the fuel and 5 times the power.
So a super car making 500hp would make 2500 hp,
But it would melt the engine block because of all the heat produced. Bend the crankshaft, blow the rods, rip out the timing chain, and need an O2 bottle the size of the titanic.
But whatevs.
Yes, clearly everyone with basic physics understanding is a shill but people who can't explain anything at any in depth, scientific level beyond "vaporize the fuel" are somehow the secret geniuses. Meanwhile as you pry for any information, they get offended of course, cause that is how idiots respond when questioned, they react like fucking retards, cause they realize they are out of their league.
Can't wait for these secret geniuses to start pick up alchemy and look into Newton's research of the philosopher's stone.
>suppressing industry-disruptive energy technologies
who would ever want to do that anons?
>when will this snopes urban legend just die. this is the kind of shit they were sending in email forwards back in the 1990s
It goes back even further than that...70s at least. I've been hearing this shit from boomers and old fucks for my whole life.
This is the biggest flaw with all the ridiculous free energy "so easy they had it figured out a hundred years ago" shit.
If it's so simple and easy, fucking build one and make a trillion dollars.
Who wants a fucking slow ass land city?
The power of alchemy is of course being suppressed by the secret cabal of world oil barons and of course the Elric brothers.
correct.
This.
A car that gets 300 mpg doesn't exist. The oil barons would love this kind of car because they could charge $200 to fill your tank and their reserves would basically be impenetrable to depletion.
This.
I'll bet OP doesn't even know electric cars came before gas ones.
add nitrogen and water vapor, think about that retarded fuck stick.
Yeah
yea it was a hypothetical. Only pointing out that 1 gallon of gasoline produces far more energy when it is in air mixture than gasoline alone holds.
True, the amount of energy in gallon of gas doesn't change, but I think their claims (as I understand it) are based on the ability by vaporization to more perfectly burn all of it. And that requires additional volume, apparently, see here:
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>Patented Gasoline Economization
>A 1988 patent application by Paul M. Brown[1] both cites and explains one theory behind the Opel’s record-setting performance: “The chemically correct air/fuel mixture for total burning of gasoline has been determined to be 15 parts air to one part gasoline or 15/1 by weight. Changing this to a volume ratio yields 8000 parts air to one part gasoline or 8,000/1 by volume. The system of the present invention vaporizes liquid fuel before the fuel enters the engine. Theoretically, a homogenous mixture can yield gas mileage in excess of 300 miles per gallon.
>[1] Source: Free Patents Online: Application No. 07/216960 (Filed: 07/11/1988 by Paul M. Brown; Boise, Idaho)
You don't
To do what exactly? Nitrogen is in the air and water is a byproduct of burning hydrocarbons (H2O) durrrr. Hydrocarbons are already a very potent fuel and pulling apart water then recombining them to burn would be a net energy loss, you can't be this fucking stupid. I will even humor you, show me the chemical breakdown of what you are proposing and the reactions down the line.
I really hope your not trying to insinuate it's the Jews, that'd be antisemitic.
True, the amount of energy in gallon of gas doesn't change, but I think their claims (as I understand it) are based on the ability by vaporization to more perfectly burn all of it. And that requires additional volume, apparently, see here:
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>Patented Gasoline Economization
>A 1988 patent application by Paul M. Brown[1] both cites and explains one theory behind the Opel’s record-setting performance: “The chemically correct air/fuel mixture for total burning of gasoline has been determined to be 15 parts air to one part gasoline or 15/1 by weight. Changing this to a volume ratio yields 8000 parts air to one part gasoline or 8,000/1 by volume. The system of the present invention vaporizes liquid fuel before the fuel enters the engine. Theoretically, a homogenous mixture can yield gas mileage in excess of 300 miles per gallon.
>[1] Source: Free Patents Online: Application No. 07/216960 (Filed: 07/11/1988 by Paul M. Brown; Boise, Idaho)
What is thermodynamics? Trebek.
Gasoline cannot burn without oxygen, you put a fuel in a vacuum and it won't burn, so I don't know what you are proposing here. The energy of gasoline is based on perfect combustion chemically. Most engine losses are from friction and heat.
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>50% fewer parts
>easy af to maintain
>gets bought and shelved
ill give you my sincere honesty, the post i gave you was bait. Im an idiot, i didnt get the laff i wanted. But ill give you my honesty good sir. How ever, can you direct me to some good chemistry books so i can self teach myself.
>It'll work, you just need a 100% efficiency combustion engine.
Yeah, okay, sure.
The ideal ratio of air/fuel is 14.7:1, so he is literally proposing the standard stoichiometric ratio as some world changing system? "Theoretically", so he has no actual proof? Seems like anyone could test this magic but I have yet to see it actually proven. The patent office doesn't fucking test the applications for accuracy. Do you idiots think a patent means it is true?
Or car companies realized they could make a ton of money by making incremental improvements to their fuel efficiency, kinda like how phone companies make small incremental changes with each new phone model
So the car companies literally control every automotive engineer in the world and somehow stops them from going out on their own and making this magic happen? They could literally start a car company with this magic engine and make billions.
>how that is different than how gasoline burns
When sprayed from the injector it isn't perfectly vaporized so it burns inefficiently, and smog etc is left over. If it were made into a gas vapour first, and that gas burned, then it would burn like natural gas does on a stove, very efficiently. Instead of wasted smog and exhaust, you'd have energy, so you'd end up using less gas to do the same driving.
Speaking of suppressed inventions, pic related is from 1936.
stay in school fags
fuel injection systems already vaporize the fuel in a warm engine do they not?
So how would you "make it into a vapour first" in a system that is fast enough to fill a cylinder 1000s of times in very short succession? What would you use to push this vapor into the cylinder? Maybe an injector of some sort? Do you think that you can take this gas, then somehow store it more efficiently than liquid fuel, then send it back in the cylinder. Please sketch up this magic you propose, then show me your math on how you show it more efficient than a fuel injector, the percentage of efficiency and how you are producing more energy than gasoline actually has. The majority of engine losses are from friction and heat in the engine itself(about 62%) not to mention driveline inefficiencies, accessories, etc. I am willing to bet money when the rubber meets the road so to speak, you have no way to quantify any of this into actual math and chemistry beyond buzzwords.
That is correct, these people are retarded and literally have no idea how engines work.
The issue with nuclear powered cars is that certain reactor schemes would be highly disastrous with the common occurrences of accident. I do think that betavoltaics and thermocoupler nuclear batteries would be cool though.
They would operate colder then a typical breeder reactor, and just use ingenious means to capture the energy of radioactive decay efficiently.
>no citations
>electric motors are silent now
Have you ever heard high speed electric motors? They make noise, not to mention the bullet breaking the sound barrier will make noise, so it couldn't be silent. I will also point out this has no citations or references.
>who would ever want to do that anons?
companies who want to keep their long term business models going without threat of newer and better technology making them obsolete. The amount of things that are being repressed is ridiculous.
There's already vehicles out there that run based off your concept and they're CNG vehicles that run exclusively with compressed natural gas.
The injectors atomize the fuel, you do not want to vaporize the fuel otherwise you will suffer from vaporlock and either cause a missfire or stall the engine all together. With the fuel being atomized it is prepped up for combustion, think of homogenizing the fuel with oxygen.
I don't think that thing was surpressed at all. The US Navy has a big one aboard a ship right now as far as I know. They also have that massive, massive one for testing, you can find videos readily on youtube. The challenge with these things is having enough energy on demand, constantly. Not to mention warping the "barrel" after successive shots.
i beleive even carburettors even vaporized the fuel by squirting the fuel into a hot inlet manifold?