That’s on top of 4500 satellites approved in March for a 12,000 internet satellites constellation to be deployed until 2025 which can provide several zetabytes of download/upload data globally to billions of customers at latencies reaching from 7 to 25ms for roundtrips.
Potential revenue: trillions of dollars. Musk essentially wants to revolutionize broadband internet - no more cable internet, you can get broadband anywhere from your car to ships to the desert, the military, homes in rural areas etc. Potential customers: 5 billion at 5 to 50 bucks a month... resulting in trillions of revenues for the excentric genius.
The Jews won't like this, expect some "technical failures" or "accidents"
Ryder Taylor
No health consequences.
It’s not for mobiles but a stationary broadband internet replacement.
“ The system will not compete with Iridium satellite constellation, which is designed to link directly to handsets. Instead, it will be linked to flat user terminals the size of a pizza box, which will have phased array antennas and track the satellites. The terminals can be mounted anywhere, as long as they can see the sky.”
Adam Rivera
>Can this keep 5G from becoming a thing? No. 5G is a local high speed connection, it doesn't allow for long distance connection. It hooks into traditional networks for backhaul. Starlink is intended to be a global backhaul service, like fibre connections. The two use different hardware too, Starlink requires a decent sized phased array antenna.
>Is it better than 5G, worse? Different. You might have 5G through a local provider which sends your traffic over Starlink if it's quicker or cheaper than a traditional fibre connection.
>What's the health consequences of satellite based internet? None.
More space trash. Don’t we have so much debris trash in osace?
Josiah Perry
>Satellite internet Have fun going offline during bad weather. I'll stick with fiber optic cable.
Jace Morales
Hmm Thank you anons, this sounds interesting. Why can't we find a way to one day make this connection go straight to mobile devices? Completely decentralized global internet - satellite based.
Fuck phoneposters anyways. This should replace everything, if it works.
Nicholas Cox
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Luis Miller
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Brayden Martinez
Does GPS go offline in bad weather? Shut your mouth brainlet
Benjamin Peterson
If you think sat p2p uploads are going to be low latency are dumb. Also >5 billion at 5 bucks+ a month Yeah but no. Isn’t like half the population very poor?
Depends on the launch vehicles, the sats are a bit like Orbcom sats, mass anywhere between 150kg and 500kg. So you could argue probably no less than 12 on a reuseable Falcon 9, but maybe 20 or more depending on the staking config. Could be 64 or more on the Falcon 9H but then you have massive problems with deployment. The BFR could probably launch hundreds per rocket, but I am not sure how deployment and correct orbital insertion would work then.
Tyler Miller
>Elon's gone so insane that he wants to cause a Kessler syndrome
Wyatt Cooper
The terminals can be mounted anywhere, as long as they can see the sky. sounds alfuw
Logan Harris
Gonna hack the satellites cowboy bebop style and turn them into laser shooting sentient organisms
>cover the planet in satellites >say its just for internets and shit lol >its really there as a shield to protect the earth from ayys
Hunter Thomas
I'm pretty sure I've seen some futuristic cyberpunk anime, some horror movies, and some futuristic "tech company takes over the world" media about this somewhere. In fact, wasn't this the premise of Lain?
this means almost every launch into space from every country on earth will need to be registered and reported with exact detail to the united states to avoid 'accidental' collision.
Nice.
Jackson Lewis
Maybe that is his end game. Tracer tong =Elon musk
The new low altitude constellation will only be at 500 km. The ISS is at 400 km. If you account for higher transmission speeds in vacuum and less switching you do get a lower latency than fibre backhaul.
FH would have a similar number to the F9 since it doesn't have a larger fairing.
Not really. Just avoid the orbit phases at the altitudes containing the satellites. The constellation itself already allows for close calls between satellites, 60 km or less I believe.
James Smith
All fake.
99% of all data goes through undersea cables, you fucking retards
Xavier Moore
Checked. Tenchocrats have already build all the tools needed for a prefect total goverment, just a matter of time till someone seizes them
Jacob Robinson
Probably Skynet Especially if they start talking about putting the blockchain up there.
Connor Mitchell
Wrong, 99% of data goes through people's brains and they want to catch that.
Dylan Cook
With VOI technology soon the telephone system itself will be obsolete. If what OP says is true, then this has the potential to kill the telecoms too (and Google/Apple)
Luis Jones
Weather is an issue for weak signals from GEO sats, not for strong signals from LEO and MEO.
Parker Edwards
>latencies reaching from 7 to 25ms for roundtrips. literally breaking the laws of physics wow elon sure outdid himself this time
Luis Thomas
>provide several zetabytes of download/upload data globally to billions of customers Fuck me. Even more gooks, niggers and spics in my online games. Huezilians were bad enough on their own. Now the whole internet will be one giant Brasil.
At least with low latency Internet you will have a choice while choosing a server.
James Wood
Wrong, 99% of data is sent through cum. That's why OP is so smart.
David White
How is that breaking any laws? Radio waves travel at the speed of light lmao.
Jonathan Wilson
My intuition says something is up with this cult following of Elon Musk. Something is going to be revealed that shows he was never "Our Guy", or he will suffer a major fall from grace eventually and it will suck hardcore because of the faith we put into him.
Just seems too good to be true. And the law of nature dictates that "nothing good should last long, and for every moment it extends past it's due you will be punished in fold".
Evan Perez
cum, hmmm, milk... milky way. You are absolutely right.
Kayden James
>it gets cloudy ooh lol no internet for me I guess!
Tyler Thompson
What a fucking retard just like eat meat you faggot.
Xavier Carter
Is that why you're a smart ass?
Angel Harris
1ms is 300km, so 7ms (includes processing of data) is ample time for a 500km there and back round trip.
Brody Brooks
thanks for fitting the mutt meme, brother nigger.
Brandon Long
It's definitely possible. He's involved with some shady people and does some shady things.
Benjamin Phillips
They're going to be in VLEO. There isn't really any space trash at those altitudes because atmospheric drag is still a factor. If you lose control of a satellite just wait a few months and it will burn up on it's own. For example atmospheric drag would deorbit the ISS after about a year or so if we stopped boosting it regularly, and it's much more massive than a communications satellite.
Elijah Rodriguez
He is NOT our guy. The guy is just a media whore. Every time he is in the news, this team did that, even when negative. Just like when “gangster” rappers and you hear about thier domestic violence or whatever, that is all put out by their press team,
Leo Morris
Steve Jobs had whole house wireless, even cooking, so his meat gone berserk. Microwave cooking isn't heat cooking, it's transforming the structure of atoms, vibrates them and Steve Jobs done that with his body. Some say he had aids, so who knows, but we do know one thing, that too much wireless isn't good for health.
Sebastian Ramirez
Do Belgian radios stop working when it rains?
Samuel Perry
instead of spending all this money on this massive infrastructure, why not build a mesh network on the ground? This is what skycoin is trying to do. >People host a node which acts as a relay >They get rewarded in skycoins which you use to purchase bandwidth The niggers who don't want to host a node can just buy skycoins to use the skywire.
Lincoln Ross
>No health consequences.
why so sure? I remember an article from a few years ago where they tested an extremely fast experimental Wi-Fi thing at an italian library. They had to cancel the experiment because everyone got brutal headaches.
I'm actually worried about all these artificial signals that mess with our brains.
Luke Collins
yeah i looked a bit more into it and it's pretty amazing
I am sure because we already have thousands of sats in similar frequencies in orbit and no life has been affected due to Ka and Ku band frequencies.
Carson Gomez
Based
Jonathan Sanchez
we kessler syndrome now
Wyatt Fisher
>and full surveillance grid... but you can download movies faster and stuff
Jack Sanchez
GEO sats are 40,000km away with up tp 500ms latency... of course that’s shit. Musk’s sats will be 500km or 1000km away cutting latencies by 50-100 times.
Ethan Watson
Just cancer all the time everywhere awesome, at least we'll be dead by the time its finished
Gavin Moore
this is what happens when you refuse to take your meds and try to treat your cancer with a fruitiarian diet.
Samuel Morales
I don’t think those sats are more prone to surveillance than your cable internet
That can't be right. Geosynchronous orbit is something like 35000km, these LEO sats are going to be a few hundred km. The latencies should be as fast or faster than existing wired connections
Roughly 30, depending on the efficiency of the design for the launcher since the F9 is not limited by weight but by volume due to the fairing size. This seems like too few, but it really isn't. The first version of the constellation will operate with 1,500 sats. At 30 each (assuming they don't make a larger fairing) this comes out to 50 launches. The only thing limiting their launches right now is payloads, not rocket or pad availability. Which is pretty much the opposite for every other company and nearly all nation states out there. Once they'll have at least four pads under control at a minimum within two years (they have a lease at Vandenberg, two leases at KSC, and however many are up and running at Boca in TX). They will just need to start manufacturing the sats in huge quantities, and it'll be gravy.
Given that BoA just gave Musk a loan of 750m for Starlink, it seems like Musk wanted extra liquidity to quickly get mass manufacture of sats at Redmond and the site in Texas up and running plus off set the cost of some of the launches. I have a feeling there might have been an agreement of discounted rates for Bank of America for the extremely low points that that they wanted back in interest on the loan.
The purpose of the first constellation is to service rural areas and institutions (banks, universities, financial districts, etc). This will make any sort anti-trust attacks on Starlink untenable for quite a long time, and Musk can entrench his position in the mean time while the larger constellation begins to come online while BFR progresses from hops to full scale production.
Wyatt Ward
He also wants to implant a computer in your brain
Hudson Hall
Meanwhile, NASA was grounded since before SpaceX became a thing still have no working spaceship. Can we put the "we need government to conquer the space" meme out of its misery already?
Ayden Carter
shots fired
Angel Powell
I agree, but there is no practical solution to do this. The only way it could happen is wireless mesh networks but it is simply not going to happen, especially as there will need to be a shitload of masts erected which local authroities will not permit, as well as high speed links which are just too expensive for people to afford.
Are you kidding? Fuck ISPs, give my connection fee to Elon to fund BFR and Mars colonisation or to some greedy telco to fund his next superyacht? Yeah tough fucking choice.
Isaac Gutierrez
They will be, what's the problem? The ping at the 550km operating altitude should be about 15ms. The place it will really shine is versus long distance hops. Going from, say SA to Europe. Most continents have extremely fucky connections due to the long trips required through the few fiber cables on the sea floor. This just cuts all that out.
Mason Morris
This. One of these days all of it is coming crashing down
Ryder Perry
No, you don't understand. The Philadelphia Mafia needs your shekels. How else will the Roberts family acquire another TV network?
That is interesting. No more worrying about server location when playing online games?
Oliver Wilson
Basically. Even the longest trips over a constellation is still faster than the longest trips on the planet - with a theoretical straight connection.
Mason Reed
Mmm interesting. I will be keeping an eye on this project
Dominic Nelson
Even if the speeds are just comparable to fiber cables, Musk’s new internet system may just end up being cheaper for many people.
If Musk can deliver the price point he says he can (around 10bn in cost for building the sats and launching them... even if that cost is just for 1/3rd or 1/4th of the system) he can offer internet service at 10-20 bucks for 500MBit or 1Gbit downloads and 100MBit upload connections. That just beats about anything in America, Canada, the UK and some continental European countries... and the lower system 50Mbit connections at 5 bucks a month would likely sweep up the rest of the world from Eastern Europe to India to China to Africa to Vietnam, Indonesia, South America and the Middle East.
Attached is a picture of a typical Eastern European city dwelling. Notice anything, lads?