Trump pushed Europe to create a true EU army

>European army
You couldn’t fight yourselves out of a brown paper bag

who cares, if they actually believe in the EU and western civilization they are already more worth than your backstabbing bongoloid caliphate

He wants you to buy American energy not Russian and he wants you to subsidise the American military. Obviously Europe has other ideas. Personally i think you should bring Russia into the fold eventually then we will see what the niggers of the world have to say.
I dislike the Eu greatly but i don't see any other way for Europeans on the globe.

See this shit is why you are having so much problems. Stop flooding the continent with your tanned niggers because they think the same as you.

You do know that Russia has worse quality of equipment, training time in addition to inferior active duty numbers along to reserves right when compared with combined EU forces?

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don't be naive, you paid for us financing your milatary welfare program your country runs on + your booming 60s by stuffing ours supermarkets full of your turdware while we allowed you to install a burger joint at every town bigger than 5k.
You just want to sell arms, see saudi arabia.

>Europe is going to spent trillions building an army
>they were forced to
>because trump asked them to spend billions under NATO

Sure

Brits,Americans and Russians are the problem, not the continent.

There will now be an army between Russia and China on one front, America just protected itself

the eu is a work in progress and lazy boomers expected the ECB to byu their lazy asses even more time. that said there is no alternative to the construct of EU, we must fix it not destroy it. Anybody shilling for that wants to destroy us.
Even geographically eurasia makes much more sense than having un unstable us ally in 2 party meltdown.

With globalists like Merkel and Macron in charge I imagine it'll be composed of arabs and africans wielded against the native population, who'll be incensed when suddenly all their socialistic benefits are redirected into a war machine. Not that their economies can sustain much shock anyway contagion bank collapse is still very real threat to the world economy.

It's not their fault the Greens are going to take over Germany.

>TFW the EU makes France and Germany tax their people more to pay for it.

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god I hate germany so much

This

americans are flooding us, they always did, what are they even doing in the middle east? before they invaded afghanistan we had 5k afghans now its 300k. Sometimes I think they want us to make their new china but then again they were too retarded to make it happen with ttip.

Nukes make everyone irrelevant

I think I never got beyond that

that is the plan, germany e.g. has to give back. and it will, imagine. But not to you bongoloids, same as ECB doesn't feed you retards with cheap liquidity no more. tfw

EU wanted its own army even before Trump was elected into office ...

Let's all join the EU army and destroy the libs, cucks, muslims and kikes from within

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yep. Trump brought you guys over
>1MILLION RAPEFUGEES
not that bitch merkel, oh no...

The UK will be paying that bill too at the current rate. Your Prime Minister Theresa May is on the same spastic level as the rest of the country. Where's your deal genius. Top Kekkk

Merkel and macron basically blame him for the idea. Personally I’m fine with it. We don’t need to be spending billions over there

I don't want a rootless, nationless army beholden to a bureaucracy, thanks.

lol these EU cuck "soldiers" will be sent to the middle east to kill arabs anyways, after a yuropean "false flag" terror attack happens in paris or london.

I can smell kike trickery from miles away.

Aint no jew gona outjew me.

yes but don® catalyzed events

>Europe a new military superpower
who are you going to have fight for you?
syrians and turks?

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I don`t mind having food rationing if it spites the American-anglo sphere.

I agree with you in principle. American military actions have not been helpful. Neither has the naievty of European leaders when it comes to immigration. The only way to solve immigration though is to create a Federal Europe so again i am torn. The only way forwards is to actually fix the EU and dethrone the boomers running it into the ground.

It will be used to incite war with Russia and to force suicide-by-shitskin on dissenters like Hungary.

Do they really think kids across the continent will gladly sign up to die for that fucking flag and all the bureaucrats it stands for?

No one will die for politicians in Brussels.

no young autist. imagine america lecturing us about border security while they can't fix their fence to mexico in decades.
Imagine those same people light up the me and expect us to either mass shoot people at the border or have fortress europe ready in minutes.
Merkel just did something strategical in channeling events, she took in quite a lot that's why germany is now running things on immigration in europe.
if she didn't take them in this would have instablown the EU.

>Trump calls NATO "obsolete"
>Wants to get rid of NATO
>Does what is needed to get rid of NATO
>muh Drumpf!!!!
Ahmed, you need to go home.

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I genuinely do not understand how the EU "wins' in all this. The narrative is that USA is fading and EU is getting strong and leaving us behind, this makes no sense to me. Look at the world:
>USA is isolating itself a bit from mainland Europe, so if there is a war there, USA wont be obligated to get involved
>meanwhile EU is becoming more militarized and fragmented, a lot of countries in it dont even agree, UK is drifting away
>i find it hard to believe that Canada, Australia or Japan would fight for Europe either
So....how is the EU winning? Feels like the EU has isolated itself and seems chaotic whereas the USA has "isolated" itself just enough to avoid getting into a war but still keeps its trade alliances with the five eyes. Do I have this wrong?

This is what everyone who supports the eu military thinks like.
Pathetic.

Slavs don't get a say because they are Euronigger Economic refugees too.

>Don't pay fair share on defense against common geopolitical enemy.
>Try to purchase energy from said common geopolitical enemy.
>Don't trade fairly with your security partner.
>Surpised when the US starts to slowly back out of Bretton Woods.

You Euros have absolutely no grasp on the reality of your situation. It's ironic that you hate America for being the world police but then stab us in the back when you start to realize the consequences of us actually leaving.

I'm going to enjoy the collapse of your deluded and corrupt Union. Maybe you could have all prepared for this if you didn't import the third world and choke your people and member states.

They will agitate conflicts and conscript.

Great. Just what we need. A militarized mudslamic caliphate.

>[EU]
>western civilization
choose one

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I will die for it if it means free Scotland and Ireland.

the great cuck army is forming in the West and the great vodka army in the East. Visegrad stands in the center.
Here we fucking go again

>I'm going to enjoy the collapse of your deluded and corrupt Union.
Don't think everyone here is as retarded.
I'm not.
>I'm going to enjoy
Not just you, fren.
Not just you.
[EU] means death.

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A european army is not good though. Whose interests will the EU army follow? Who are they going to be loyal to? What will it be used for? So much room to misuse its bound to be a disaster

I know my history and I know exactly what it will be used for.

I think Merkel is ridiculously smart and annoyingly subtle.
The influx of immigrants is because Germany has a birth gap coming up. They plugged it, easily, the gain far far exceeded the fallout. Affordable labour pool : they have distracted the rest of europe with everything else while gaining huge benefit.

considering theres still lots of jews in power they'll do their best to get USA involved.
whoever is our next leader, we don't know if they'll be able to continue Trump's legacy.
But overall this is good for the US (potential reduced military expenditures), and bad for the EU (no more free defense, less money for social programs to rub in americans faces that americans are subsidizing)

The European Union is doomed. Soon the Union will collapse financially and that will be the end of it.

Yup, the xenophobic misogynist you, then the Ruskies come from the east, its like it already happened before

I have to believe a lot of the elites agree with what the US is currently doing, though. Zeihan's lectures opened my eyes to the fact that USA isolating itself a bit from Europe is a natural course of events due to trade and security. I mean, it is REALLY just trump questioning NATO? I have to believe it is much bigger than him.

We agree to some point. And yes leaders over here were naive because in the end it all worked out well. Look at the balkan crisis, sure there is fallout but in the end it actually could have been way worse. Reality is fortress europe is already happening, eastern borders closed, reinforced etc.
But you cannot seal of europe in minutes, see US border.
Also do you know the immigration act they plan now to establish an efficient structure for handling immigration...has been blocked by rightists for decades now..all while poeple immigrated and were handled with some judicial jungle paralying trials.
It's not always either or..united states of europe is the only way. And dethroning boomers you are right about that..problem is if we replace them with some populist rightists boomers it will just get far worse. Europe is peaceful, mutts consider it a weakness, we consider it a strength to not throw overboard all our values at the first signs of trouble.

Anti-EU populists have been saying this for 30 years now.

the only relevant army left in the eu is on its way to the brexit
inb4 france: ahahaha

I hope Visegrad will honor its alliances. I am really against this concept of Fort Trump but perhaps having them here will at least keep the EU and Russia off our backs

>Whose interests will the EU army follow?
[EU] dictatorship
>Who are they going to be loyal to?
[EU] dictatorship
>What will it be used for?
Against countries who don't want to follow the plan of the [EU] dictatorship.

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And they were right. I would never want to live in the West.

>I think Merkel is ridiculously smart and annoyingly subtle.
[Merkel] is a retarded puppet, just like [Clinton].

Witch hunt.

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I think this is retarded. Europe is building up its defense manufacturing capability for the last decade. They want to be making their own best stuff. The US is losing a lot of money.

>united states of europe is the only way.
Fuck you, traitor.

>they trick young men into the culling again
Lmao it cant happen again, right guys?I think that being a deserter does not have a social stigma to it anymore, I wonder how it would go

They do it in the Jewnited States.

clearly its a successful plan. OY GEVALT!!!

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>muh 30 years
Very low IQ post
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union
>A monetary union was established in 1999
>came into full force in 2002

>Flag
checks out

If EU goes to war with anyone I will joint the other side

don't you spoiler user..this. I never voted for her and I hate that subtlety (is it a german trait? maybe women work that way in a male dominant society? my mom acted like that back then sometime). I don't like that she always waits for things to play out before acting but imagine a woman btfo every fucking politician including Merz for decades, she knows what she is doing, but people don't see the bigger picture.

Do we? Pretty sure America uses a lot of private contractors now. I dont think the American populace wants to fight in another war for anything.

Rightist object because they do not want to be flooded with immigrants from unwise decisions other countries have made in the past. This is the thing with being a great power you have to make hard decisions. Do you want a Federal Europe? Well you will have to give up some of your values and that includes people on the populist right. If an efficient migration infrastructure was made then you could easily start deporting useless black fucks back to their country of origin and process asylum claims correctly. Most of which would be rejected.
Having an every man for himself migration policy is causing real problems in Europe and i suspect that combined with another financial crisis will see shit getting very real. You want have to worry about populist boomers anymore or keeping Europe peaceful.

Uh, yes you do. America is not there to "protect" NATO. It's there to use them as staging bases for future conflicts against Russia, the Middle East, or whatever nation is on America's revolving door of enemies.

Its evident from some simple facts. One, the ratio of American personnel and equipment to the native army is anywhere from 1 to 20-100, an insignificant contribution. Contrast this to how much America spends on airfields and logistics there. Infrastructure for future conflicts.

Two, NATO has no enemies. Who's going to invade Germany, Russia?

fuck yeah European Federation Enforcer Corps when?

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I would keep Americans out of your country. When Trump finishes his term there will be a hard left government that will flood your bases with every kind of diversity.

This time at least the Nazis ([EU]) have no support in the population.

The United Spastics of Amerifatland have no idea that being European is pretty amazing especially when we can look over the Atlantic and see such a burning bin democracy run by some blonde clown. That blonde mop will be the new Hitler Moustache

EU Army

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dont worry steven, jews are smarter than the average goyim, and got more hutzpah under their belt as well, they will find a way.

A lot of good your first amendment is for when jews have all the media and acronym agencies under their control to keep your nice and divided.

See no evil, hear no evil,speak no evil...am I correct?

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lmao w-we could still name it fourth reich no?

>being European is pretty amazing
...when you are not getting "culturally enriched"

European countries, full of muslims, creating a European army full of muslims?

It'll be used by imams to create military coups across Europe the moment an EU army is used to attack an Islamic country.

its been predicted for years. and various anons have posted as much. mutts always complain about that too.

4d chess

MAGA

>This time at least the Nazis ([EU]) have no support in the population.
Are you a boomer or something?

This is exactly what we wanted though. Stop relying on our army you leeching cucks.

What if USA no longer wants to get involved with russia or the middle east?

>make traitorous assets in europe a coherent threat
>gain the justification to righteously destroy them with sheer might once and for all

am i missing something?

eurocucks wont stand a chance against us for fucking decades, and with how drawn the lines will be by then, only dumb shitskins will be their soldiers, who will suck at strategizing and fighting effectively

prove me wrong

Yes. Abolish all national defense and hand over total military power to unelected bureaucrats in Brussels.
What can possibly go wrong.

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I don't think everyone there is like that and I hope people like you can stay safe in the next coming decade. Its just hard not to generalize when you see the state of the European Union and its people.

While I do genuinely feel sorrow for what is happening and going to happen seeing as it could happen here, but It feels good to see the consequences of years of bad social and geopolitical policy hit these snobby politicians and bureaucrats in the face.

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Yes, this, I dated a German girl through the whole decade of my 20's; The way she calculated decisions was almost scary. Very specific and long term and Merkel was her idol. She even had the young version of those choppy cheeks. The Germans have always known how to move forward, Americans usually shit their XXXXL pants about it. Top keks

The only benefit is that it will essentially checkmate EU (German) military ambitions in Poland. If they want to "stop racist nazi Poland" they will also have to assault an American strategic ally that also has American assets in country. Whether or not the Americans will honor this alliance is up for debate and I am always seriously skeptical of such "exotic alliances" - in addition America's alliance with Israel is really problematic for Poles. For example, we are dealing with routine crisis after crisis as Jews are hammering us lately with propaganda, e.g. the recent "crisis" in Warsaw where Jews are effectively trying to steal peoples property - Trump supported the Jews in this. I also believe most Americans don't like us, or at least see us simply as some kind of vassal state. This is simply not tolerable.

However, the benefit is that it is a sort of guarantee - and it also checks Russian ambitions. People do not realise just how bad the state of Russia is right now. They are dying and expansionism is on the horizon.

make no mistake im not talking about destroying europe, im talking about destroying some of the (((politicians))) and "refugees'"

>tfw future Finnish conscripts will serve across Europe instead of just our fatherland

It will be glorious.

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foreign legion sappers
they are mostly ceremonial now
must have a beard to join is pretty based