Is Britain lost?

The British Empire still exists to a point in the British Overseas Territories (They either voted to remain part of the empire or were never given independence).

That said though; I think the concept of Britain as a nation is the problem. It's a conglomerate of historically different (arguably ethnically different) nations all obliged to act/function as a single nation. You only have to look at the confusion caused when trying to explain Great Britain, UK, England etc.

The solution I think is to devolve the UK back into it's constituent nations and allow each of them to function as a sovereign nation, but within a non political union more akin to the commonwealth than the EU (the British Commonality Union or BCU concept) that's probably a discussion for a different thread though.

But the future looks black and brown and i see no light in end of of this tunnel.

>Germany only wanted that
ayy lmao

That sounds perfectly reasonable. How do you suppose to pull something like that off?

Well, i've been on that same boat for years but in the end it all boils down to being among likeminded people.

It was a merchant empire and breeding ground for the globalist ideas that we deal with today. Good riddance I say.

It would need to be by full devolution, not just regional assemblies/parliaments. The one major issue would be Ireland because if the UK didn't exist anymore then would Northern Ireland be it's own nation, reunified with Ireland or reunified but given some form of regional autonomy.
There would also need to be some form of legal parity between the nations along the lines of human rights and foreign policy(specifically restricted to alliances/hostile powers). No nation would be able to legislate for the other though, e.g Westminster couldn't pass a law for the Welsh. We'd need some for of free movement, but no automatic right to settlement (this to prevent the South of England or East Scotland becoming an immigration hub like southern Europe is).

It's quite a complicated discussion, but an interesting one, and I don't really want to hijack a thread with it.

Yes, they are now “Greater Indic Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom of England, Scotland, Ireland and Wales”

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No that is perfectly fine. How should Britain "deal" with Ireland and Scotland considering they were never on your side?

>Indian Crown in Britannia
lost it

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I think, considering the current political situation, going a few hundred years back that England would be at war.
The question here is if the EU does keep the peace?

Scotland not really an issue, they've quite a proud "British" military history (Regimental at least).
Ireland would be the problem, because they have a justified claim to the Irish island, but Northern Ireland adamantly wants to remain part of the UK. If the UK no longer exists then we would be leaving Northern Ireland in limbo and likely setting up a civil war in the island.
We could work out something similar to Sovereign Airbases, if we could make the case it was necessary for security of the British Isles as a whole. Other than that we would have to cede Northern Ireland to Ireland, but on a condition they maintain some level of autonomy and self-governance. In this arrangement Northern Ireland would have to be allowed to choose their own head of state (i.e keep the English monarch or become a republic).

Uniting the UK without war seems impossible. On the other hand if we continue down the path of (((democracy))) we are fucked anyway.

Hans, we were both kiked, it's just that Britain got kiked more! It's the US's turn now! That's how (((they))) work!

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I'm done with our turn. I want to pass it now please

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>Uniting the UK
I'm talking about dissolving the UK and replacing it with a union of independent sovereign nations. It would be ore similar to the commonwealth than to the EU. In fact the only thing it would share with the EU would be freedom of movement (not automatic right to settlement though) and barrier free trade.

You can't quit this ride.

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They are lost but it is all by choice. If the bongs had the will and desire they could rebuild their empire right now. With their skill, strategy, and military specialism they could do it, and the world would be much better for it.

Hopefully theyll fill it in then there will be no light n no exit from the tunnel.

>I'm talking about dissolving the UK
Then who do you propose is going to rule the people once monarchy is gone?

Murica wouldn't allow it. Proof me wrong.

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European politics are determined by Bruxelles. Bruxelles on the other hand looks to 'murica and Russia in order to govern us peasants.

Monarchy would still exist . It's a constitutional one, so each nation could choose/vote on if they wanted to keep the English monarch as their head of state. The monarchy would function in a similar way to how it does in the Commonwealth, some commonwealth countries are republics and some even have their own monarchs.

>Monarchy would still exist
Why would the people still choose monarchy? A french type revolution is the only way out of this.

Heads must roll. To be precise: The traitors to our cause, which is a homogenous society, must be relocated back to Israel.

I'm a republican, so abolishing the monarchy would be okay with me, but in the scenario we're discussing it wouldn't be a choice that one nation could make on their own. In addition we would need to work out a deal to transfer back the crown estates to the now private citizens who were once monarchy. Loosing the revenue from the states (plus likely tourism) would cause a financial shortfall. I'm not sure many nations would go for getting rid of the monarchy if it meant taxes increasing and having to buy or surrender the estates.

Britain is absolutely shit now. We're finished. I genuinely hate the place and most of the people. I'm kind of glad it will suffer under Brexit, even though I will suffer too.

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There is no defeatism ITT.

>Is the british empire lost
What empire?

>what empire
Google it faggot. It goes back thousands of years.

muslim population is like 5%, yes we are getting overrun ....

Wtf happened lads?

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The British Empire was unholy and degenerate.

Death to Britain.

>t. poo living in UK

Patritism will prevail. Kys
youtu.be/Sgd9nYqVz2s

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in 2011

This is one of the most badass songs I ever heard. Wtf is wrong with britons today?

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Empires rise and fall. Why doesn't every other Empire ever get any shit?

Stop basing your view of countries from pol. There are normal Brits in every corner of the UK. The mainstream media and government like in most Western nations does not represent the country and people.

The UK is more nationalist than all the other Western European countries. You really think Germany and France are more right wing? The Netherlands? Belgium? Sweden?

Give me a fucking break. The UK also leaves the EU in 5 months time.

>You really think Germany and France are more right wing? The Netherlands? Belgium? Sweden?
Probably, yes.

The UK is a subservient population. Their rulers have been kind enough and skilled enough to avoid much revolutions. In Europe there is more revolutionary spirit, perhaps because the elites are just not as good at maintaining calm amongst the population. If there is a revolution against globalism, I wouldnt expect it to come from the UK.

>Probably, yes.

That's simply not true though. Especially demographics wise. The rise of no go zones and non-white areas mainly came post 1997 while those areas have existed for many years previous to that in areas such as France and the colonization of certain French areas by blacks.

There are big youtubers from the UK and a large focus on the UK from others say from America. A lot of the population knows what is happening while there is no equivalent in the other EU countries and the population sleeps as everything is withheld from them.

There are no PJW's or Tommy Robinsons or Nigel Farages in most EU countries. Plus many others such as Douglas Murray.

>That's simply not true though. Especially demographics wise. The rise of no go zones and non-white areas mainly came post 1997 while those areas have existed for many years previous to that in areas such as France and the colonization of certain French areas by blacks.

The differences are small. London, Birmingham, Bradford, Wolverhampton, etc. All are amongst the quickest cities to be demographically changing in Europe.

For the rest of your comment: I disagree. Amongst the white nationalist / fascist community, the Counter Currents type people, French academia is seen as being the most advanced for rightwing thought. On a less elite level, don't forget the Identitarian movement, which has probably achieved more than any grass-roots British patriotic movement.

I can't say whether continental European old media features soft-right figures like Douglas Murray, but I wouldn't be surprised if they do.

Western Europe is roughly equal in its position.

A lot of our laws were brought in as a direct response to civil unrest/internal conflict. Basic British facets(such as the modern army) have their roots in revolution/revolt. A lot of revolts across the world were inspired by actions we took (magna carta, common law etc), the problem with Britain is that the revolutionaries only work for their own self interest, case in point the magna carta was to protect the interest of the rebel barons. We have quite an extensive list of civil wars and that's before you even get to revolts and uprisings.

You should read/watch some Peter Hitchens, he covers the long slow decay and destruction of this country very well

The police are doing a lousy job, so things fall apart, leading to pic.

Excellent point. Much of the Empire was built by British Trading companies and their private armies sanctioned by the the crown.
...and the Royal Navy, of course.

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Hahahahaha The British empire is officially dead. The only debate is whether it's been since 1984 with the loss of Hong Kong or earlier.

That's 5% too much, Redcoat. 5% shit in your tea is still undrinkable, (excluding Indians of course).

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yurgggh churchill ww2! niggers.

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Hong Kong was handed over in 1997

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This is comfy brit/pol/ without the spastics.

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>1984 with the loss of Hong Kong
Irish education.

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kek

So many blackpilled brits, all the modern neo-nazi groups in Europe started in UK, most facist parties aswell.

yes
correct

I think was referring to the Sino British agreement.
1984 is when we decided to give Hong Kong to the Chinese. Because China outlined what they were intending to do, then we pretty much ceded Hong Kong to them at that point.

Unfortunately this.

Yes

there is no more Britain

You'll be joining our caliph soon infidel

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>Just Danzig
Lmao, sure.

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