Drumpf sued over weed and guns

>Lawyers for a medical
marijuana patient have sued the Trump administration over a federal law that bans licensed firearm dealers from selling guns to people who use the plant in states that permit it.

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>ingest medicinal plant matter legally in your state
>can’t own or buy guns anymore because reasons
Why is this a thing
I doubt Donald “Ban Bumpstocks” Drumpf will do anything about it

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Weed is still a federal crime.

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>the law should not say what it does muh weed muh guns

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fishy sessions is gone now and trump want change up the schedules.

This was the law in colorado back in 2013....so under Obama you asshole. As if Trump personally did this. kys.

The Constitution says nothing of cannabis. Thus, it is a States' rights issue, and the fed gov usurped power that they were never given when making fed laws about cannabis. Fuck em and fuck their fed laws. Nullification!!

i wouldn't trust myself with a gun while high, being in an altered state of consciousness is not good while trying to conduct yourself and make rational decisions.

That is not what is being said here.

Do you support denying legal pot users the right to purchase and bear arms then, simply because they also partake in a toke? What about alcohol users?

why else would medical marijuana patients be blocked from gun ownership other than danger from being in possession of a firearm while under the influence of a mind altering substance.

Why?

Yes.
No.

Weed is a nigger drug.

i don't think anyone under the influence of anything should be in possession of a firearm, if you're smoking weed / drinking and the gun isn't on your person then fine, but who would agree that's it's safe to let some drunk or high idiot be in immediate possession of a gun, recipe for disaster.

I am telling you that is not what is in play here. The law doesn't say you can't buy firearms now because you will be high and use em. It says if you own a medical card then you can't own a firearm. Why does this not apply to every other drug? What about opioid users, with prescriptions? They are allowed to buy, and opioids are clearly worse than pot. What about all those people who use alcohol or who have alcohol and firearms in their homes? I won't respond again if you are just goin to repeat the same bullshit. The ppl filing suit will win, because it is too arbitrary of a law.

M8 a fifth (750ml in bong speak) of hard liquor is 9 bucks at my nearest gas station.

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If you own the card, no gun. Even if you took a damn drug test and they are like oh wow, not high for over two weeks i see. Still, no gun.

Why do they feel to bring up trump in this completely non-related issue? That makes no sense and is absolute rock bottom tier click bait.

Weed has been with humans since our very beginning. You are a boring faggot.

so? doesn't mean because it's easily accessible that it cannot be enforced, should people who drink & drive not be prosecuted because alcohol is cheap and widely available?

why wut man?

Don’t handle your guns while high then idiot

NO drinkin and driving should not be illegal or prosecuted. Only if you damage property should you be prosecuted. If you drink and drive just fine, more power to you.

>Applies double standard to weed and alcohol
Nigger alcohol makes you way more violent than weed does and it's much more accessible. Saying people who are allowed to buy weed can't have guns is dumb, as as saying people who buy liquor can't have guns.

This
Some leftist prescribed anti psychotics can still get a gun

The current law basically is the marijuana equivalent of saying anyone who drinks ever, even casually, can't own a gun.

It's not only about using weapons while simultaneously being intoxicated.

crack is a nigger drug you stupid nigger
checked

>If you drink and drive just fine,
nobody on earth drinks and drives just fine, you cannot consume alcohol and not have it impair your motor skills in someway that's lesser or equal to when you're sober.

I though these people did not want retards to use guns, what gives?

The Trump admin will lose the suit. The court will see it as totally arbitrary to say no 2nd amendment cuz of that substance, but yes 2nd amendment despite all these other substances. Also, it is the 2nd amendment. You shall not infringe. They are goin to lose, then cannabis will be made legal nationwide. Then farmers will grow loads of hemp and that will Make America Great Again.

This will be ruled in favor of the patient
why?
Oregon handled a case similar to this a few years ago
a woman sued them and got her right to the second amendment
the law is way too arbitrary and the constitution is extremely clear about states rights

anyone making a big deal out of it has some sort of prescription or addiction to alcohol and knows nothing about being a hypocrite

>I though these people did not want retards to use guns, what gives?
They only like the second amendment when it applies to drug heads and criminals apparently.

Wait, so should anyone who has ever consumed alcohol be banned from driving or owning weapons?

Loads of people drink and drive all the time. They drink a tall boy as they head home. They are not even buzzed. You are a statist pussy boy. If drinking and driving is so bad then why allow alcohol at any restaurant? You are clearly drinkin then driving.
Just this morning, I was talking with a man about a woman who died in a car crash. She was notorious for putting on make up while driving and it killed her that day. Ppl do dumb shit all the time. If they do dumb shit and don't harm anyone, then what do i care? If they harm property, then you go after em for damaging property. You don't make faggy lil drinkin laws and then fuck ppl over because an empty beer can is laying in the bed of their truck. Yes, that happens all the time.

Quads of truth.
Nullification it is.

This this.

lmao he wont even have to send a lawyer. itll be some intern with a piece of paper that clears his throat then quotes that weed is still a federal crime then walk away

according to the brit, yes. But he wants a license just to drink a glass of wine with dinner. We can safely ignore him.

also the whole notion of gun shops asking this question was due to a "directive" issued by obama DOJ
it was never made law, and never cleared as constitutional
kavanaugh is going to expand gun rights

have you used alcohol and weed? weed has a much higher potential for people to do crazy shit, some of the thoughts you get while high on a sativa are insane, alcohol might give you the courage to carry out a shooting, but weed can create, manifest and reinforce the idea. all substances can not be grouped together, yes they're all intoxicants but they all have different effects. some things are more prone to producing certain effects and are more dangerous than others.

>SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
>unless you inhale this one plant lmao

>much higher potential
post a study proving that
oh wait, its illegal to properly study it so every study released tends to help the government

So America just lies? Constantly?
No wonder people think you people be annihilated.

In Colorado where cannabis is legal, handling a firearm while intoxicated, high or drunk, is considered unlawful carrying of a firearm.

Alaska has legal weed and only one gun law, the arrest the ATF law.

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>smoking weed over the age of 18

LMAO

Alaska, the only state that makes sense.

Aw

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I used alcohol and weed together all the time. It makes me really good at mlb2k12. You are a huge faggot tho.

Simple possession is only a federal misdemeanor. Where does it say in the Constitution that you can lose your rights for a misdemeanor?

>weed is federally illegal
>just because it’s legal in Cali does not mean it’s legal
>California is in violation of federal law
>court orders shut down of recreational and medicinal pot distributors
>weedfags btfo themselves

>not being high, drunk, and armed at all times
It's like you hate fun or something.

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Look at how teh disgusting huffpost calls this excellent law a National Disgrace. This is just nullification. This is exactly what northern states did back in the founding of the country. They told the fed gov that they would not enforce the fugitive slave clause. Huffpost would have said "What a national disgrace, how dare teh northern states not return those slaves to the south. It is a federal law. We should all suck off federal cock whenever we can." Retards. Citizens do have more power than the feds. the States certainly do.

Name me a few stoner mass shooters.

>i am a retard and don't understand teh Constitution or nullification.
wew lad. Read some Thomas Woods.

Shit, this might actually be a pathway to federal legalization

The conflict between gun ownership and smoking weed is fucking stupid and weed laws in general are fucking stupid

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“the several States ... are not united on the principle of unlimited submission to their general government” but “by a compact ... delegated to that government certain definite powers.” Violations by the federal government of the Constitution’s limits were therefore “unauthoritative, void, and of no force.”

It could also potentially be a pathway to 50-state constitutional carry.
>tfw we get legal weed and reinstate the 2A in the same case

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>Weed is still a federal crime.
UNCONSTITUTIONAL

The alcohol prohibition required a constitutional amendment, which was removed later. None was ever passed for weed.

Furthermore, the law under which the ban is justified is the INTERSTATE COMMERCE CLAUSE

WHERE IS THE COMMERCE WHEN YOU GROW A PLANT FOR PERSONAL CONSUMPTION?

THE BAN IS OUTRIGHT FUCKING ILLEGAL

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State's rights issues haven't mattered since the civil war. That and they can sue Trump directly, it's a click bait article. What it really means is they are suing the federal government which really means they are suing that new dem Congress. Anything that involves money goes through Congress, anything that involves court cases goes through the supreme court so in essence they are suing Congress for money which the supreme court will have to hear and Trump has nothing to do with it. If they win their case the laws Congress made get changed and any money given is out of our pockets as tax payers.

>This was the law in colorado back in 2013....so under Obama you asshole.

Hmmm. So that's why Soros is pushing the spread of legalizing cannabis; with Obama-era gun law, millions of people cannot own guns.

That's a happy pupper.

Ex-pat or why do you care about the US constitution?

Make your choice. Do you want 2A or to get high?

I know you're trolling, but you're still pathetic and retarded. Here's your (you) out of pity

And guns are a good given right. I'll smoke a bowl and go hunting if I want to, faggot.

To disarm the population. By your logic, you shouldn't own a gun if you have a beer in the house.

None of this is Donald Trolls fault. Pot was illegal at the federal level long before he came in.

>doubt Donald “Ban Bumpstocks” Drumpf will do anything
Oh it's going to get worse now that gun grabbers Mitt Romney and Rick Scott picked up senate seats

>weed has a much higher potential for people to do crazy shit
Like shit posting complete nonsense
>put the blunt down before you catch yourself on fire

You may be utterly ignorant of what your country is doing, but for last several decades its been going around threatening countries with literal embargo if they don't ban weed

>I have the right to knowingly endanger other drivers
And you can drink THEN drive, you need a .08 BAC, which is pretty buzzed.

An unconstitutional federal crime.

>unconstitutional crime
yeah nah, shitcunt. are you going to try to tell me that losing your 2nd amendment rights for being a felon is unconstitutional too? fuck off
its illegal to have together and that's that until it gets changed

Explain why alcohol requires a consitiutional ammendment and weed doesn't. Explain how banning it under interstate commerce is justified.

>WHERE IS THE COMMERCE WHEN YOU GROW A PLANT FOR PERSONAL CONSUMPTION?
There is a SCOUTS case called Wickard v. Filburn that allowed for plants grown for personal consumption to fall under the commerce clause. Was it a shitty ruling that was influenced by the politics of the time? You bet your sweet ass it was.

hey, stupid faggot - do you see one for weed anywhere? no? KYS its illegal, deal with it

No faggot, in order to BAN ALCOHOL they had to CREATE AN AMMENDMENT
Indeed where is this ammendment??

Weed psychosis and guns don't fit well together

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>whining about alcohol to make an excuse for weed
why not whine for heroin too you piece of shit?

>Weed psychosis
Literally what? Alcohol is over 38 more likely to cause psychosis and only one of the two that can cause it after ending use

It's going to be legal, deal with it. Then you can cry and cry all you want and literally no one will care. Don't like it? Don't smoke it. You're a goddamn shame to the founding fathers.

>its going to be
well it isnt now you dumb fuck

Justify how weed is worse than alcohol. Pro-tip, alcohol is worse. Why not make weed legal and alcohol illegal then? Because I'm not an absolute cuck like you.

And when it is in a few short years I look forward to your autistic screeching and incessant whining.

>Donald “Ban Bumpstocks” Drumpf

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You're a useful idiot and should be shot by a real American. Get the fuck out.

you still need to be convicted to lose your rights
See the 14th amendment

i wont whine and screech since it will then be legal
because i follow the fucking law, faggot
i dont have to justify shit. the law is on the books and you have to follow them. i find it absolutely pathetic that you have to have some sort of substance in you just to maintain instead of just having hobbies or taking care of your shit

>Hurr hurr the law is the law always follow it
>I would follow any law no matter how unjustifiable
Would you follow a law banning guns you turbo cuck?
I don't even smoke weed you stupid nigger, doesn't mean I can't have an opinion on it.

The point is, I have a CCW, i can drink all the booze I want, take all the prescription pills I can handle and not lose my license. If i get a medical marijuana license because I do not like narcotics and booze, I forfeit my CCW. I would much rather be around someone who has a gun that just smoked some weed than be around a pilled out or drunk person with a gun.

Did you know cough medicine had opiates in them until the 1920s and no one said a thing because addiction was always a self-correcting problem - even during the great depression. Children had access to it, yet did not abuse. There isn't a single, sane argument in favor of continuing to criminalize a drug that is as harmful as coffee.

hello there you faggot mexican

I smoke crystal meth daily and own several firearms. Sometimes I'll just open fire on the neighbours children for the lols.

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Good

Hahahahahaha, so all you can fucking do is throw a random insult out instead of addressing anything? Fuck you're retarded. Don't even tell me you're white. What I took from this is that you ARE cucked enough to give up your guys because the law says so.

>Weed is still a federal crime.
Thank God.

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Oh, pack up everybody and go home because this guy currently has the moral high ground because the LAW says so. Jesus christ.

BAD ORANGE MAN

At least you can acknowledge the laws only exist because of racism. You're less intellectually dishonest than most.