Alright guys, bear with me here. I have always been a firm believer in vaccinations and the importance of vaccinating your children. However, I can’t help but notice the amount of liberal media outlets (NowThis Politics, for example) immediately demonizing anti-vaxxers in the same way that they do Republicans/Trump/Trump supporters/Anyone with a conservative opinion.
Is this really the one topic we all can agree on, or is there a possibility that vaccinations have a more sinister use behind the curtain?
Don't bother with the flu shot, it's a crap shoot. Chinese pigs incubate the flu every year and the flu shot is a few that (((experts))) guess will be the problem. It's a racket
Lincoln Sanders
Vaccinations weren't OK because they were using mercury in the shots, leading to people going nuts.
Antivaxxers are nuts and that's true. But there's some truth to every story.
Levi Thomas
Vaccines are good but the extra stuff the Jews put in them aren't.
David Davis
Dude, children used to play with the mercury in thermometers back in the day. You are exposed to far more mercury that way than the microscopic amount in a shot.
get a grip
Gavin Flores
The anti-vaccination movement is fabricated in order to damage control the diseases brought in by immigration. Just look at where all of the measles outbreaks are occurring.
Alexander Wilson
>screwing around with mercury is the same as directly injecting to the blood.
Isaac Sullivan
This. Anything a Jew gets near is infected
Lincoln Bennett
why would you inject any amount of mercury into yourself you dumfuck
Jordan Cook
Anti vaxxers have been a thing since the mid 2000s when that out break at Disney land happened.
Brody Flores
Honestly, I don’t know. This is something I’ve just started to consider, because I’ve noticef that for some reason, they’re making more and more articles/videos demonizing anti-vaxxers as of late. I’ve always thought of anti-vaxxers as batshit. After seeing these outlets constantly lie about and insult anyone right-leaning & noticing they’re using the same exact tactic against anti-vaxxers, I’m kind of like “oh shit, wait...” and was curious if anyone else started to notice/are thinking the same thing.
Michael Anderson
I think most here have felt that way for nearly a decade. I can't imagine taking that red pill only now.
Nolan Gomez
Last year my 12 month old got the flu vaccine. I didn't get it, and neither did my wife and my 3 year old. The 12 month old was the only one who got the flu. That was verified by a lab test at the doctors office. There is really no point to it.
It’s because they want to hide the truth that ‘yes, some kids will die or get autisim’ Because people are stupid and won’t take the risk even though it is for the greater good.
Lincoln Harris
Just get the MMR, IPV, and DPT vaccines, everything else is excessive - don't bother with flu, chickenpox, etc.
The most important thing though is staggering vaccinations. Official position is that there's no harm in getting 2-3 vaccines at once, but if there is any connections between developmental problems and vaccination, it's going to come from overwhelming the body by subjecting it to multiple vaccinations at once. There's risk that comes from staggering vaccinations by a month or two and most doctors are more than cooperative if you request making additional appointments.
Aiden Thompson
I thought about this, too. It’s ironic that they’re pushing vaccinations pretty hard meanwhile they want open borders and believe everyone in the caravan are poor asylum seekers who should hop our border without question, which is definitely dangerous, especially considering what diseases some of them may carry.
Gabriel Edwards
Fuck vaccines, only immunization you should get is a tetanus shot.
>MUH ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE Can you think about something more than 1 step deep?
Jose Ross
If you do some research you will see there is a lot of correlation between auto immune diseases and autism, not many studies as all the funding is pro pharma. My take is I will give he vaccines that seem necessary but delayed. My kids didn't get any vaccine till they were about to start school, and I singed a waiver saying religious exemption but still have them a few, almost everyone I know knows at least one kid fucked up shortly after a vaccine, they serve a purpose but I'm sceptical as fuck and most of the shit we vaccinate against is a non issue
Nathan Morales
Vaccinations are used to inoculate a small number of people with deadly time-bomb diseases that cause population control. It's how the aids virus really started. The problem is that such a small number of cases are injected with something negative that you can point to the majority and say the treatment is perfectly fine, only a small number of people given the shot react negatively, therefore those people are "liars" and should be ignored. A new polio-type virus is taking kids out recently because they botched the gestation time in their new virus.
Ethan Kelly
I haven’t seen much about anti-vaxxers or anything as Trump has dominated every outlet for the past couple years. If I did come across anything, it was few and far between enough that I didn’t make any correlation. Only recently have I noticed it far more frequently.
Oliver Myers
Better said here than my post, but this is what I felt like was the safest course of action for my kids.
James Cox
Flushots are useless though. Flu and influenza has so many strains that you simply can't vaccinate against it effectively. At worst it isn't even that bad either, so why bother. Just vaccinate for the serious shit that will actually kill you.
Evan Ortiz
They really are. You can't protect against a virus that mutates so rapidly.
Nolan Smith
If you actually care, then read Dissolving Illusions by Dr. Suzanne Humpries. It is excellent and explains how vaccines didnt do shit, never have, and never will. Fuck em.
Jordan Reyes
There are enough retards especially on American continent to make it necessary. I'm glad we don't have retards like you.
Samuel Sanders
Thank you! I’ll save the title. I’m definitely interested in learning more about it.
Cooper Carter
They want to show some parents are "unfit" so the government should step in and take control. Being able to force shots means they have total power to do anything.
They are supposedly one of the few they haven't reduced the mercury in, so why subject your kid to something that most likely won't protect them genius?
That’s a very good point, and one I had not thought of.
Cooper Ross
I hope more conservatives get into the anti-vax movement so I can laugh when all their children die and they blame God for their problems.
Jack Morgan
The archives exist for a reason, user. There's a ton of information.
>"Some vaccines and materials in vaccines may cause chronic autoimmune disorders in a subsegment of the population. The trade-off is between a few hundred people sick or dead compared to an epidemic like small pox, polio, rubella, german measules, seasonal flu, which either causes death, or worse, prolonged illness in a large chunk of the populace, tens of thousands, which, even though you may not care about human lives, will put a huge dent in your wallet when you get hit with the communal healthcare bill." >imagine thinking that people die from these diseases any more
Sanitation and nutrition eliminated deaths from these diseases well before the vaccines were invented
nonvaccinated kids are healthier than vaxxed though you double nigger retard.
Michael Barnes
It's all about money. The vaccines probably don't work most of the time anyway. Who knows what's really in them. Havent gotten shots in 30 years
Ian Price
>Europeans >Not retarded
Aaron Phillips
I hope more leftists chop their dicks of so they can't even have kids to worry about.
Carter Cooper
thwy inject you with genetically modified viruses
Bentley Harris
>"Some vaccines and materials in vaccines may cause chronic autoimmune disorders in a subsegment of the population. The trade-off is between a few hundred people sick or dead compared to an epidemic like small pox, polio, rubella, german measules, seasonal flu, which either causes death, or worse, prolonged illness in a large chunk of the populace, tens of thousands, which, even though you maynot care about human lives, will put a huge dent in your wallet when you get hit with the communal healthcare bill." >imagine thinking that people die from these diseases any more
Sanitation and nutrition eliminated deaths from these diseases well before the vaccines were invented.
Camels, llamas, alpacas and sharks have the most effective immune systems in the world because their significantly smaller and simpler antibodies are more robust and effective than larger complex human antibodies
Llama immune system was able to effectively fight off multiple different flu strains all at once.
Once science fiction human engineering becomes possible, we should seriously consider replacing our complex antibodies with single domain antibodies.
There are plenty of animals to be jealous about even if you are human after all.
Justin Sullivan
I live in an all white city but thanks for trying
I don't really care about fairness, I just like watching moronic conservatives get what's coming to them.
nice
triggered
Colton Cooper
That's a bingo! Is that how you say it? Yes, vaccines were introduced years after the diseases were on teh downslope trend, due to better understanding of germ theory, sanitation, and overall health practices.
Nolan Ross
Most people are stupid and lack either the IQ or the training in logic...or both...to evaluate anything even remotely complex as vaccines.
Vaccines are neither all good nor all bad. They are complex medications that have complex interactions with human populations which have incredible variation in both genetics and environment.
One vaccine may have a high rate of success with a low risk profile. Another may be less successful with higher risks. Another may be absolutely worthless, high risk and no better than placebo. Also: a relatively useless vaccine may not kill anyone while an incredibly valuable vaccine saves many lives, yet kills a few due to rare interactions.
Want more complexity? The age at which a vaccine is administered might matter for some vaccines but not others. Vaccines administered together may perform differently, or have different risks, than they would administered separately.
It is far, far more complex than either side makes it.
If I were to try and sum up what I've learned for a new parent... * You decide your child's vaccination schedule. Not your doctor. If you doctor pushes you, find another. * Pick and choose the vaccines that are truly important. * Administer vaccines later, and spread apart. Some shots will have 2-3 vaccines in one shot (unfortunately), but get only one vaccine (or one shot) at a time. * Be aware that some vaccines are prepared using cells from aborted fetus lines. That may be against your religious or moral beliefs.
Nicholas White
flu shots are bullshit
real vaccines that last longer than maybe one winter are legit though
>tfw you don't keep a llama to spit in your mouth and your children's mouths and keep you all safe from bad diseases. my llama keeps me comfy as fuck.
Jaxon Clark
My grandmother had like 5 vaccinations and made it to her 80's. My father had 8 "required". My children will have some 150+ required, and more being suggested.
Nathan White
Exactly this. Anti-vaxxers are an irrelevant minority. They post a lot online, but in real life their numbers are vanishingly small. Most people who are skeptical about vaccines vaccinate their kids anyway. They just space the vaccines out, use alternative formulations, skip unnecessary vaccines like chicken pox, etc. There are simply not enough antivaxxers in the world to be responsible for these disease outbreaks.
If you look into the outbreaks you will find that they occur exclusively in "diverse" areas (the one exception is the Amish, who don't get vaccinated). But the media would have you believe that Pinterest moms in white suburbs are bringing back measles.
The problem is not few thousand dummies posting antivax memes on facebook. It's the mass importation of third worlders who've never been to a doctor in their lives and don't understand hygiene or germ theory.
A few weeks ago Twitter banned a bot network that was posting both anti-vax and pro-vax content. (((They))) are pushing the antivax vs. provax conflict to cover up the truth.
Levi Rogers
Vaccines have been contaminated with cancer causing viruses in the past, and they still gave them to millions of baby boomers way back in the day. When the boomers you know are dying from cancer, it might very well have come from a vaccine.
Is there any research I can do to determine which vaccinations are the most important, should/shouldn't be paired together, etc? I'm not even sure where to start, honestly.
Carson Barnes
Anyone who can't do the math on a human infant without a brain-blood barrier being blood dealt preservatives, a dozen times before the age of 2, is a blind trusting idiot, or a fucking industry shill.
Jaxson Evans
This post is correct.
Jonathan Davis
>no one in this thread can actually post a legitimate source of information that actually shows vaccines are bad >just parrot misinformation that has no reliable source
It's like natures way of cleansing morons. The internet is great.
Nolan Turner
People from India aren't big on washing their hands, neither are Mexicans, so I think everyone should get the hepatitis vaccinations.
Oh wow, that's really interesting. The more I think about it, the more likely I believe it is that the influx of anti-vaxxer articles/videos/etc is going to be used as a cover up for the negative, and possibly deadly results of illegal immigration. It would make sense that I started seeing more and more of this after the caravan became a front page story.
(OP here, switched from my phone to my PC)
Parker Mitchell
How is it microscopic? It makes up most of the solution. You are a retard.
Andrew Johnson
But we have posted stuff showing vaccines are bad, or just not necessary. Did you actually read the thread?
Isaiah Ross
Different racial genes and cultural diets & traditions can cause vaccines to be more or less effective. But (((they))) dont want you to know this, so they create a controlled opposition and insist that you're either with them or pro-vaccine. In reality, multiculturalism, immigration, and racial diversity severely lowers the effectiveness of vaccinations. Then of course there are the immigrants that have already contracted the illness or virus and are able to enter the United States freely, giving them ability to infect people. The issue here is immigration, but they play a mind game with you to hide that fact.
Brandon Phillips
Start by getting the list of vaccinations your Dr. would recommend. Just reading what each one is for on Wikipedia will be enough to help you eliminate some. If there's no chance of your child even being exposed to a particular disease, and/or the disease is almost never life threatening, and/or the vaccine isn't all that effective to begin with, then you have a vaccine that's not needed or which can be pushed off until an older age.
Once you have your list of "I really don't want my kid ever getting THAT!" vaccines, read up about them. Try to find factual information on how successful they are, and what their risks are.
And again: stretch out the schedule. One vaccine at a time. And don't be afraid to wait for some of them.
Thanks you retarded redditposter. Now what's to stop single-domain antibodies from crippling half our population due to autoimmune disorder?
Connor Parker
They will blame anti-vaxxxers on the outbreaks the third-worlders bring in. And that is a big lie. Remember that in past outbreaks the vaccinated people also got the disease! So the vaccine didn't do anything. So do they even work? No, no they don't. Unless by work you mean cause harm to those injected.
Brayden Rodriguez
vaccines are a great way to spread a designer bug nobody had to begin with. remember h1n1? and now 'summer colds' are a thing in canada where h1n1 vax was pushed heavily
Jacob Foster
Agree 100% with this. The disease outbreaks in the U.S. are due to massive 3rd world immigration, not anti-vaxxing soccer moms.
Chase Perry
trips lie bigtime today. It is from a fucking doctor. You retard.
Owen Stewart
Thimerosal is a mercury-containing preservative that is added to vials of vaccine that contain more than one dose to prevent contamination and growth of potentially harmful bacteria. Monosodium glutamate (MSG) and 2-phenoxy-ethanol which are used as stabilizers in a few vaccines to help the vaccine remain unchanged when the vaccine is exposed to heat, light, acidity, or humidity. Formaldehyde is used to inactivate bacterial products for toxoid vaccines, (these are vaccines that use an inactive bacterial toxin to produce immunity.) It is also used to kill unwanted viruses and bacteria that might contaminate the vaccine during production. Most formaldehyde is removed from the vaccine before it is packaged. Antibiotics which are added to some vaccines to prevent the growth of germs (bacteria) during production and storage of the vaccine. No vaccine produced in the United States contains penicillin. Aluminum gels or salts of aluminum which are added as adjuvants to help the vaccine stimulate a better response. Adjuvants help promote an earlier, more potent response, and more persistent immune response to the vaccine. >none of these are safe around the brains of infants, especially with zero specialization to genome expression or development stage/speed. Your children are being shoved into a sieve and those that don't fit the "norm" are being killed for it. For $.
Noah Reed
Kind of like the doctor that said thar marijuana was bad and was able to get it banned? lol
Parker Russell
>IT'S FROM A DOCTOR >appeals to authority >a doctor who's a quack
Not an ad hominem, just an observation that people who reduce complex issues to black and white narratives are stupid.
Evan Lopez
Thimerosal is a mercury-containing preservative that is added to vials of vaccine that contain more than one dose to prevent contamination and growth of potentially harmful bacteria. Monosodium glutamate (MSG) and 2-phenoxy-ethanol which are used as stabilizers in a few vaccines to help the vaccine remain unchanged when the vaccine is exposed to heat, light, acidity, or humidity. Formaldehyde is used to inactivate bacterial products for toxoid vaccines, (these are vaccines that use an inactive bacterial toxin to produce immunity.) It is also used to kill unwanted viruses and bacteria that might contaminate the vaccine during production. Most formaldehyde is removed from the vaccine before it is packaged. Antibiotics which are added to some vaccines to prevent the growth of germs (bacteria) during production and storage of the vaccine. No vaccine produced in the United States contains penicillin. Aluminum gels or salts of aluminum which are added as adjuvants to help the vaccine stimulate a better response. Adjuvants help promote an earlier, more potent response, and more persistent immune response to the vaccine. >none of these are safe around the brains of infants, especially with zero specialization to genome expression or development stage/speed. Your children are being shoved into a sieve and those that don't fit the "norm" are being killed for it. For $.
William Rodriguez
You realize that vaccine manufacturers just got BTFO in court because they weren’t recording the very evidence you’re asking for, for over the past 30 years even though they were legally and ethically obligated to do so. That in itself should give you pause but you seem stupid so it probably won’t
Justin Clark
>strawman
Still haven't proven me wrong.
>posts BS >GOT'EM!
You still haven't proven me wrong.
Lincoln King
You’re making it clear that you have no interest in having your mind changed no matter what anyone would put in front of you
Alexander Harris
Thank you! I don't have children yet but I plan on having them in the future. I'm definitely going to start looking into it so I have some prior knowledge.
Joseph Watson
i just know that if i was a child and my parents had me injected with some kikes experiment juice id hate them forever
Sebastian Anderson
in france, we have social security, free medecine ect... but we are like 85% of anti vaccination. that's kinda weird
Chase Hernandez
Chicken pox vaccine is absolute bullshit, btw. Immunity from the disease lasts for life, but immunity from the vaccine only lasts 10-20 years. So instead of getting chicken pox as a kid, when it's harmless, you get it as an adult when it can kill you. Literally no reason to ever get this unless your kid has cancer or some shit.
OP has woken up to something real. I noticed it a few years ago especially with how I was treated for questioning and refusing shots for my youngest. I did my own research and did it good.
You can see it in this thread, and anywhere else online that discourse happens. On reddit you can see pro-vax parents wish harm upon others' children; something I have almost never seen anti-vaxxers do. It's a hivemind and you see the same responses every time you cast doubt on the golden idol of vaccines and by extension, medicine itself.
That's because most people don't really have what it takes to do their own homework, even when it regards the health of children. It is easier for them to trust what they are told by doctors and teachers. I've heard people say anti-vaxxers need to be SHOT. mostly people just call them crazy, but if you are already redpilled this should not matter to you.
If vaccines work so well, it should not be a cardinal fucking SIN to refuse them. As a previous poster said, it's a control mechanism to show that we do not own our children's bodies.
I had CPS called on me by a creepy pediatrician after refusing Hep B shots and a routine genetic screening in which I provide the state with my baby's DNA sample. I got away with never doing that by just not going for frequent "well-baby" checkups. The kid is almost 1 year. I will take him if i become concerned; otherwise, i will do whatever the schools require and agree to the minimum shots I feel comfy with.
OP is more correct than he knows: we've seen how the hivemind operates and why. How truth affects them. What types of truth are hidden under mockery and the sinister shit underneath the tired tropes we no longer swallow unquestioningly.
If we are redpilled then we know by now that THEY never do anything for our own good; that they hate innocence and wish to destroy it including the very bonds between parent and child as well as our natural intution of danger. We also know THEY run medicine.
Anti-Vax parents: Oh please, it’s just like abortion.
Jayden Lewis
The building 7 of vaccines is that your child is given a hep B vaccine the moment it's born! Babies have zero chance of catching Hep B.
Babies don't even have functioning immune systems until like 6 months old. Babies get their immune defense from their mothers milk. That's why many of the vaccines have to be given every 3 months and then there are countless stories of children still catching stuff they were vaccinated against... BECAUSE 3 MONTH OLD'S DON'T HAVE IMMUNE SYSTEMS AND VACCINES DO NOTHING.
