Healthcare is a right

Healthcare is a right

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You don't even understand the difference between health insurance and healthcare.

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These slide threads just keep getting lazier

this debate happens constantly. Jow Forums cannot accept that Koch-funded Republicans are lying to them and using skin color to distract them. As if an illegal immigrant from Honduras is the reason middle class people who are fired from unionized factories or white-collar jobs can no longer afford healthcare.

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>paying $1000 a month so some little Ahmed in Alberta can have a heart surgery
I'll pass?

>Woman
>Paying taxes
Ha ha ha

People that want to do it still can. I don't see why him wanting to pay means everyone needs to do it.

Well then they can just donate to charity, instead of forcing other people to do the same thing.

You just need to make it less of a scam, Americans. We all know that nothing is "free" and I'm not saying our system is better but I heard on the radio last week that a typical cost for a treating a cardiac arrest with complications in the UK (which was one of the examples cited) costs the taxpayer about £3,000 ($3,800).

Please tell me why it needs to be 50x more expensive in the US?

I'd rather have Darwinism over free healthcare and what I mean by this is that people need to die. We should've save sick and stupid people just because we can

No it's not and it never was.

Costs of heathcare are massively inflated because they are price inelastic and the providers are greedy. That is literally it. They are taking advantage of you, and some idiots still argue that it is perfectly fine because muh free market. That is insane.

>obesity through the fucking roof and only getting fatter
>degenerate life style (smoking, drinking, fast food)
>no exercise
>system already flooded with browns and blacks and women that drain more than they take
I would never support >free healthcare in America. If there was a white ethnostate where the citizens were able to take better care of themselves then sure, I'd be all on board with it.

Boy shittin' howdy, it must be nice to trash-talk the US about it not having gibs healthcare(it actually DOES in a limited manner) while simultaneously NOT having any military to speak of and relying 100% on the US military to provide security and defense to all of modern Europe, Canada, Japan, etc including the US Navy's defense of international shipping lanes from piracy.

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That being said, on the radio show I listened to they also stated that they expect the NHS to cost us 14% of GDP within the next 20 years! I still think we get good value for money though, but some privatisation will be needed in the future I'm sure.

Healthcare isn't a right, but it's retarded to have this weird monster mash of a private-public system we have right now.

There are no free market constraints in healthcare, you can't negotiate for your service when you're on the verge of death. We as a society cannot just let people die because they had the misfortune of being born with a bad condition.

Universal healthcare is necessary for humane society.

I just wish the people advocating for it weren't advocating for a dozen other awful policies.

Sure but you have to pay for it.
I would support free health care if it came with a lifestyle clause. You have to keep in shape until lets say 65 to continue to access it.

IT'S NOT SUPPORT HEALTHCARE. IT"S NO SUPPORTING REFUGEES. IT'S NOT SUPPORTING VOTING RIGHTS AND ABORTION.

IT'S JUST BEING A DECENT FUCKING HUMAN BEING.

the US benefits immensely from international military agreements, because US military and contractors get money for it.

Because the pharmaceutical industry is owned by the same unscrupulous kikes who own the insurance industry.
and those same kikes have an army of lobbyists in washington doing everything in their power to corrupt law makers
and the law makers themselves are carefully vetted as pro kike before they are allowed to even run for high office
the number one issue to the american public is affordable health care but no one will ever bring it up because its a massive racket made possible by an artificial government
obama's lauded obamacare simply guaranteed payment for these ruinous procedures without any attempt to lower the cost
globalist ultra capitalist jews used our own "government" to craft a perfect monopoly for themselves fuck you

The biggest issue with the NHS is that the people that run it have no idea what they are doing, and try to apply management accounting practices to it which works in theory, but has no basis in reality.

ur mum is a right and i partake daily

Imagine having the mentality of a Canadian?

no i dont want to pay an extra 100 dollars in taxes. I would rather pay an extra 1000 dollars in health care. this is true freedom

Prices in the US are misleading for one. The final amount people pay is nowhere near the initial bills that get sent. Secondly we have to subsidize 100 million savage third worlders. You’ll find out what this feels like soon enough. Going to be plucking hearts out of your young daughters to slap them into obese negros soon enough.

Because the primary beneficiaries of 'free healthcare' would be niggers and spics. And although polite society won't say so, they don't care if they live or die.

Literally fuck em.

>It's called taking care of your own people
>own people
If only.

This. The more mutted we become, the more I want social security to disappear. Fucking invader parasites

I pay extra taxes so illegal aliens can have first world health care for free, while American citizens declare bankruptcy when they get sick.

>*dies of cancer waiting in line.

>your people
Nope

Why are others entitled to my money? God only wills I be charitable, not fucking stupid

>t some cunt who doesnt understand Canadian Healthercare
Its by Province and the fact that i am keeping Diabetic indians alive drives me up the fucking wall
Theres no repercussions for being an absolute piece of shit fuck this dumb cunt

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Damn I meant shouldn't.. Damn Jews changing my words. Sneaky rats

>be me
>be Poortuguese
>have free healthcare
>OH FUCK
>NEED A DR RIGHT NOW!
>hold on Sir a Dr will be right with you in 6 months.

I hate to break it to you, bro, but they already do get free healthcare and you don't.

>implying we should be unwilling cuckolds
>implying we should be forced to subsidize the replacement our race

I'd rather be taxed to save the pandas or the polar bears. I'm sorry that so many of my White brothers and sisters are suffering because of the jewish oligarchy, but your math does not add up.

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He's just making fun of us because we pay more than he does for the same healthcare all because we don't want the government involved or because we don't want to pay for other peoples medical problems (Even though that's what health insurance is, paying for other peoples illnesses, then they help pay for yours).

Really the only difference here is that everyone involved makes more money off of us than they would in Canada.

The moralizing of other vassal states is pathetic. Run your country how you see fit and Americans will deal with their own problems.

Don't respond to memefags.
Tax is theft
Sure as fuck don't need my money going to non-whites. Fuck you kike slide thread. Stupid bitch Jews

When will the Kochtopus meme end. You know Reason magazine hasn't been relevant in years right.

We pay for all the research and medication because you dont. Also, third worlders show up to the emergency room for stubbing their toe.

wrong. The US spends more in total on poor whites. By saying you care more about per capita cost of a racial group than the total cost in government money, you are already admitting the argument is based on dividing people by race and not on economic cost.

There is no economic basis for evaluating someone's value to society by race.

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Universal healthcare is just a massive payout to big pharma

We'll have medical nanobots before we have universal healthcare

That fucking sucks. It's a shame there isn't some kind of "co-operative" healthcare option where all the profits get funnelled back into driving costs down.

And we treat everyone who can sneak across the border free of charge.
This is the real reason we don't have national healthcare, we don't have a nation anymore.

Nothing wrong with taking care of your people, now here is where the problem lies, niggers and other invaders are not our people, not a dime should be spent helping them.

Get rid of all forms of welfare, snap and all that shit as well as foreign aide (including but not exclusively Israel) and we can talk about using my money for "free" healthcare.

>it's called taking care of your people
Deadbeat spics and niggers are not my people.

meme flags are Jews.

Guess what? None of that is ever going to get solved as long as we have mexicans and niggers and jews voting to steal our money and sovereignty.

We have a war on too many fronts. A few retarded nigger babies dying is small potatoes compared to the existential threats we're facing.

If you want to deal with these moral issues effectively, we need to solve the big problems first. We need to make america a white ethnostate.

Rights don't exist. You are born into this world alone and you die alone. You are owed nothing. If you want something stop being an entitled little faggot, get off your ass, and make it happen.

Because SNAP is the same thing as national healthcare.

I'm glad half of my monthly wages, litterally, are used so that some nigger from anywhere in the world, come to France to get a multi million surgery for free, then send back home, all of it paid and organized by some French humanitary association.
I am glad that those hundreds of billion are used every year so that shitskins can go to the hospital's ER for simple examination that could be made at any general doctor, all free of charge, while white people who actually are in need of emergency can die in waiting rooms.

This is all so progressive, so tolerant, shove that big black dildo up my ass, I love it.

>I don't care
Yeah, well I do so send your own money to a weakling dying in Alberta and stop forcing your shit on everyone else.

>your people
>your
What if the little boy is going to grow up to be a serial rapist and killer?
What if the elderly man is a kike?
>It's called being a decent fucking human being.
Helping people that destroy and sacrifice the world and may even be a threat to the survival of the human species, themselves and their own included, is extremely evil. And thus not at all decent in any way whatsoever.

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Half of whites support letting spics and niggers in, so fuck socialism for white traitors too.

Fucking bingo, the world doesn't owe you shit

what "replacement of race". There is no immigration argument inherent to socialized healthcare, no matter how many alt-right youtube videos you watched. Wealthy people have less kids, if black and hispanic people had the same wealth as whites they would have similar birthrates. This is not rocket science.

>per capita is raycis
Damn nigga u retarded.

>There is no economic basis for evaluating someone's value to society by race.

Ever heard of the pay gap?

Every race has dregs. Society doesn't work with nig levels of dreg per capita.

That Tumblrite probably doesn't even have a job or pay taxes. Having almost half of my pay cheque disappear so some pajeet or sandnigger can have surgery is not ideal. Fucking morons.

Cities were a mistake.

>there are people in our decaying society who still havent taken the black pill

look out for nobody but yourself

>There is no economic basis for evaluating someone's value to society by race.
Ever heard of affirmative action?

Ever heard of the IQ gap?

Even tho tax is theft, snap is awesome. Only whitemenwithguns should get free fu.
Checked

>spics and niggers
don't forget about the political left. i guess i'm repeating you in a way.

Citation needed

Helping in-depth, genuinely, overall good people? Yes. Helping (((all people))), no matter how evil they are or not? No.

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I'd be okay with it as long as we have a zero tolerance for illegals and immigration was oriented towards whites coming here

>what are per capita statistics
Do they still teach simple math in high school, or is that racist too

But user, what about paying your $500 so that LaQueefa can have her quadruple bypass surgery and stomach stapling? After all, whites owe it to her and her people for forcing them to eat McDonalds and Wal-Mart all the time.

Yes, we should have MORE people.

>taking care of your people
>half of canada is chinese and brown 3rd world sludge

dude free everything for everyone desu

Why is it called being a decent human being when people are forced by gunpoint to pay taxes?
Also, healthcare can't be a Right because we don't have any in Canada.

I'm not a decent person, and I don't intend to be. I look out only for myself and my family.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_and_fertility#Paradox
it's been known for hundreds of years. Read the sources on this wikipedia article if you want.

Yep, help is a give and take. The people who agitate the most for "free" healthcare always intend to take more than they give back. They would not frame it as a benefit otherwise because if it's done right, it would benefit no one overall and only be temporarily useful when someone is in a bind.

>450 million American large percentages are obese.
>Canada a country with about 5 million people.
Ok.

I'm not paying for Quintavius to get a heart transplant if he needs a brain implant first.

Whites create Food Deserts by moving away from bad neighborhoods.
Access to white people is a human right.

>I'm okay with being robbed, so you have to be, too.

How about let me donate to the kid who needs heart surgery out of my own free will rather than forcing me? You only lose 10-20 percent probably, because you make 10 dollars an hour. I lose almost 30 percent without "free" health care. I don't even want to know what I would lose with it.

>10% of the population makes up nearly half the spending costs.

Sounds about right.

> Woman claiming to be a decent human being

Fucking kek.

They are the most parasitic creatures to ever step foot on this planet.

They really do these days.

>Everything is free

A mandatory taxation isn't "taking care of your people". It's submitting to theft so that power can do it for you, among many, many other things that money is thrown at.

The absolute dillusion of Leaves

>leftists just regurgitate Jow Forums memes to sow political discourse.

I can appreciate that the prices are misleading but how is it possible for people to go bankrupt for getting cancer or spend $30,000 on giving birth even when everything goes well (assuming you have insurance)?

Also, no need to drift off into your rape fantasies about black men. I've only got sons anyway.

Your research is excellent for sure but that still doesn't explain why simple procedures cost so much and we get our fair share of "health tourists" too (i.e. niggers). Perhaps patients are getting cutting edge treatments instead because they cost more when a simple treatment would work just as well.

In the UK we have the opposite problem, the doctors exhaust all the simple options first and then when you're on you're death bed they commit to further testing and treatment..

There’s a whole section of contrary findings and no chart showing that nigger fertility at a certain net worth = white fertility at a certain net worth. Don’t know why you even bothered linking that.

>all dem poor #people
how about save your tax money, and invest it in your #family

>poor people get more money from the government
imagine my surprise

WE HAVE FREE HEALTHCARE ITS CALLED MEDICARE AND MEDICAID

did u know that a person in 1 out of 4 canadian househols doesnt take.medication because of inability to pay for it?

Is that a Canadian bot interfering with our politics?!?!

The most used argument i hear against public healthcare/socialized healthcare/whatever you wanna call it, is that you have too long waiting times.
This is the mantra i usually hear, mostly from republicans.

Different studies who compare healthcare, even the ones done by american institutions and research facilities, show that the waiting times in the US are higher in comparison.

The one thing the US shines in, are the amount of very very specialized doctors.
But Brainsurgeon Mr. Harvard who graduated cum laude won't fix the normal american. He will fix rich Mr. Oilsjeik and his wife for 50K an hour

>We as a society cannot just let people die because they had the misfortune of being born with a bad condition.
We can when they chain smoke, binge drink and eat shitty food.
If I have a heart attack dont save me.

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