Public schools should not exist

Unironically this. Parents used to teach their kids useful skills and how to think. Now the government teaching kids useless things and WHAT to think (aka gommunist probagunda))

He's not wrong.

But schools are so free that they're compulsory.

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I agree with him actually. Public schools have become a joke and a financial black hole of epic proportions. The only purpose they currently serve is government operated daycare that offers brainwashing services

grew up faceing violence and attacks in school, i was big so they attacked in groups, but because i was so much bigger the school attacked me for it because "you could actually hurt them! you cant fight back!"

now i work nightshift in a big city and someone trys to fuck with me every other month, and yet every time i draw on them the back the fuck off. i forget where i was going other than even when you still face violence out of school, you atleast have a way to handle it. schools will let people like me get beat, but when the folks attack me in the real world i have defense, how fucked is it that kids have to face group attacks alone and unarmed

Faggots shouldn't exist

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Mmmhm?

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Sadly, we can't just sack them. Too many two income households depend on them to maintain their white flight.

>High school
Graduate school too. If not for high-profile publications, online courses would be the vast majority.

Michael Malice is pretty intelligent, but he's also rather naive. I listened to him on Rogan's show, and when it came to voting, he took on this really anarchist stance that seemed more reactionary than thought out.

American ingenuity, user.

what is your opinion on what he was talking about though?

And still most NPCs are against home schooling or a school voucher system,leftist dont care about kids,if they did they would be for parents choice,leftists care about using public schools for adoctrination.

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Malice is a fucking idiot and believes in voluntary participation in society

yep, your right. health care should be free too all to and we need to lower prison rates :crying_emoji:

>seemed more reactionary than thought out
Why?

Oculus rift founder was homeschooled and redpilled.
No school brainwashing

Bring back grammar schools. There should be an educational caste system. Also let us kill bullies I got kicked out of my secondary school because I stabbed a guy that was talking shit about my mum in the face with my keys but white negros need to learn that there's consequences. Main reason bullying is so prevalent is that A) Bullies typically focus on weak people who can't defend themselves and B) they face no fucking repercussions whatsoever.

>having to pay with your sanity
doesn't sound free.

youtube.com/watch?v=lzEi2H3X4gc
He basically said: I don't believe in voting. He thinks it's illegitimate, something about flicking switches and people speaking for him. He didn't express himself very well, or it's a flimsy position, or both. He seems to think that society should be voluntary. His justification was that because we have cell phones, and other forms of technology that allow us to pretend we're completely independent, it removes the need for topological borders and districts and the like. Somehow. And this also somehow renders obsolete hierarchy based government. Or something. I linked the video. See if you can make sense of it.

Das right goyim, we need more migrants, lets open only private schools so we become Africa real fast.
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checked, if you send your white children to public school you are a fucking monster
i grew up in those schools as the white minority and my parents didnt have pride, typical boomers
HOMESCHOOL THEM ONLINE
its easier and more efficient honestly
i remember my spanish class the teacher spent the first 15 minutes throwing these two uppity black negresses out of. school wouldnt get rid of them.

>He didn't express himself very well, or it's a flimsy position, or both
He didn't spend much time elaborating - I don't think that entails that his position is flimsy or that he was inarticulate. He said he thought voting is illegitimate because the idea that any person has a right to say another person (a government representative) has permission to tell him or others how they're gonna live their lives is absurd.

Why does my voting for a person give them permission to tell other people how they're gonna live their lives? His point is he thinks it doesn't at all, and if it does't then it's an illegitimate process.

Checked. Online is great for people who are actually motivated to learn or self educate on their own time.

I'm a high school teacher. It sounds like you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about haha.

Public schools are on their way out. The rich go to private school, the motivated poor go to charter schools. Only the rejects still go to public. Also a great many are going to school online.

The whole system only existed to create unit cohesion for nationalist armies anyway, and the infestation of Vietnam era draft dodgers in colleges and those who they have indoctrinated has made that moot.

Go back to whining about how little money you make during your multiple months of vacation.

participation should always be voluntary

based

fuck schools and fuck niggers desu

always hated going to school, forced government brainwashing

Does anyone on the right step back, look at how anti-science and anti-education the Right has now become and realize they're party to the intentional, malicious creation of a generation of idiots?

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Only public schools should exist.
I was in the army. In one base officers eat alone and different food. On another base everywhere got the same food. Guess where the average food was shit and where it was aok. If everyone has a stake in something everyone seems to improve it. If you must send your kids to the same school as everyone Bill gatestype dudes will make sure public schools are good

it's called real estate my guy, go somewhere with good school 98+% white. if you don't white flight you're retarded

Yeah, and then when pressed on a better system, he launches into this anarcho-capitalist utopian rant about cell phones and old bad, new good rhetoric, which reveals to me that his thought process in reaching this conclusion is flawed, to put it mildly.

Unironicly agree, it should be completely private again

Shouldn't you be out crying while you buy pencils?

Primarily leftist female union ran zoo's that have made policies that prevent the worst of the animals from being disciplined or kicked out, who give themselves raises with tax payers money while somehow avoiding any culpability in the increasing violence in schools. Leave the worst kids behind, put the violent ones in prison, and tell the kids if you suck youre gone. Start working on measures that prevent Lakeisha from suing the school because her son is a piece of shit.

>hates californians for leaving their state
>hey bro just move to a whiter area
kek

Im going to have a kid soon, and no way are they attending public high school. It was the absolute worst time in my life, served 0 purpose but to delay me 4 years, I learned literally nothing useful or applicable except in the business math class that was taught 1 semester to just 8 students, and if anything the whole thing set me back. At the time as obv a child I didn't see it. But as an adult now it was nothing but a strange socially acceptable daycare designed to offer minimum skills to minorities to allow bare minimum functioning after. The side effect is anyone with intelligence is stuck in a neverland for 4 years retarding their growth. You are basically society's finishing school for poor black kids.

Worst girl

You can always learn here.

> Everyone likes different types of foods or has different dietary requirements.
> Force everyone to eat the same
> Wow this is so much better than freedom

I was groomed and statutory raped by my high school teacher. She was 35 and kinda ugly. Your appeal to authority hurts your argument.

Countrymate here is right
No niggers, no muslims, no subhumans = PEACE

Well isn't voluntary association the actual alternative to that voting silliness?

If it's absurd because it's wrong, and if it's wrong because we don't have any right to tell other people how they're gonna live their lives, then that tells you any alternative to that has to not have that wrong quality.

What answer do you want to hear? What concern do you want addressed...?

It's not about freedom since kids aren't free. You are not free to choose your parents so we have to ensure all kids get a decent chance. That will set them free

Too much lobbying involved in schools.

nice

Yes, it's up to parents to try to create the optimum environment for their child, not force their child to adjust to an unsupportive environment.

Your logic about eveyone getting an equal chance is wrong.

Go back 50 years, it wasn't unusual to leave school at 15. People did that, got jobs and lived their lives.

But then people like you started to say, well people who finish school and get qualifications get higher paid jobs. So everyone should do the same and everyone will get high paid jobs.

And there are a few flaws in your logic. The first is that you assume that attending school for longer is what made those people do better. That's wrong, they had innate qualities such as superior intelligence that made them want to stay in school and which allowed them to succeed later in life. Forcing someone without those qualities to attend school for longer is not going to result in them being successful later in life.

Aside from that, everyone can't have a high paid job. It's mathematically impossible. For there to be high paid jobs, there needs to be low paid jobs. What makes a high paid job high paid is that it is high relative to other jobs.

Jobs pay more than others because it is hard to get people of the necessary skills and experience. If you teach everyone the same then you deny the people who want to specialise the opportunity to do so. Everyone needs something that makes them special and a generic education denies that.

Going back to the people who used to leave school early. They earned less, but were they actually worse off? If they were happy and they enjoyed what they did, what's wrong with that? There's an elitism at play here that says that people in lowpaid work are worse off. Maybe they are happy at what they do? Maybe they make a valuable contribution in their own way?

Everything you're saying reeks of utopianism.

Nothing you said is groundbreaking, its just common sense, but the problem is society is so fucked re: schooling your common sense ideas would never get traction.

What in particular?

I agree with this statement. Elementary through High School is Prison. Although this particular incident is p lmbo.
Below is the OP (faggot) forgot to post:

nypost.com/2018/11/14/high-school-in-chaos-after-bullies-used-boy-with-cerebral-palsy-as-human-bridge/

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Nice wall if text but besides the point. I don't say people should stay longer in school I say schools should be public and everyone has to attend public school for a minimum amount of time. After that the students should be educated enough to make their own decisions. And I say if there are only public schools the better off will see to it that public schools are at least ok. This argument is grounded in the assumption that all kids deserve the same chances not outcomes.

Yep, and the education system actually cripples people's ability to reason for themselves.

vocational training? otj training? Parochial schooling? It should be noted the question is pretty silly. "What is the alternative to schools?
Nobody is saying we shouldn't have schools. We shouldn't have publicly funded schools, is what the argument is.

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It falls down because it becomes a government program and government programs are always worse than a free market alternative.

That's literally the only good thing about the public education system. Everyone needs to have their ass kicked every once in a while, it keeps everything in perspective.
The lack of ass kickings being handed out these days is why we're at where we're at. Especially when it comes to women. That's why they all think life is a video game, or a movie, where they will be able to take out a person who's twice their size, and 4 times stronger. And worse, they think they can say or do whatever they want with no repercussions.

>Although this particular incident is p lmbo.

Oh this gets even more LMBO. This happened in Canada. Link with VIDEO

globalnews.ca/news/4647329/bullying-video-ns-teen-cerebral-palsy/

>A Nova Scotia teenager living with cerebral palsy said he was walked on by a classmate while he was lying face down in a stream Wednesday — and no one helped.

Brett Corbett, 14, said his classmates dared him to stand in the shallow water near his school, Glace Bay High School, on lunch break.

>A Nova Scotia teenager living with cerebral palsy said he was walked on by a classmate while he was lying face down in a stream Wednesday — and no one helped.

>Brett Corbett, 14, said his classmates dared him to stand in the shallow water near his school, Glace Bay High School, on lunch break.

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Agreed.

Ooh shocker the public school teacher is a fucking idiot. Are you proud of yourself for taking taxpayer money to indoctrinate our children and contribute to the education system that's made our country a laughing stock? I swear to god teachers are the fucking dumbest people on the face of the earth

they need more schools and smaller schools.

Thats stupid. Some things belong in the public domain. Water supply for example. Look at Berlin for example.
Militarily, police, etc. It's not always about optima, sometimes it's more important everyone gets enough

kids do better though when their parents are involved in their education. you can say they have to sit in school from 7-3 and then theyre going to go home, drink soda, play video games, and fuck off until they show up again tomorrow. Those kids don't historically do well. You can't ignore that. You also can't change it, and i think the data shows that you're not changing it.

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You sound nervous. Kind of like you were called out.

But private schools are just as bad

Pic without captions?

Yes? And? I'm not saying you shouldn't help your kids all I am saying is kids are innocent and all deserve an equal chance. That will never happen but we can move in the right or the wrong direction

Never mind. Found it.

>What in particular

>it's wrong because we don't have any right to tell other people how they're gonna live their lives

This statement alone completely delegitimizes the entire premise of Rule of Law. But then Malice, would backpedal, and say something along the lines of, "well obviously we need laws!". But the fact that such a basic requirement of society was ignored, indeed tacitly dismissed, out the outset reeks of naivete. And since you seem to be taking his position, I included you in my accusation of utopianism - which in any form is remarkably flawed.

Maybe I'm not giving the position enough credit. Fine. But it's hardly my responsibility to flesh out someone else's position for them. So if it's being presented in such an incomplete form, so as to make itself an easy target of the simplest and most obvious criticisms, that's the fault of the presenter. And it doesn't cast said presenter's reasoning skills in the most flattering light, which goes back to my original criticism of the idea: naive.

You also have to remember that school has regressed and the quality received at 15 was much better in some respects than to that received currently. I'd say more people on average receive 'education', the quality is less variant, but it is generally poorer.

Cause she's a bitch?

A lot of rich spoiled faggots studied in weird ass schools with at most 5 hellspawn per class and different teaching methodology.

I kind of agree, schools are machines to turn kids into productive little lemmings, but it has also provided me with many memories (good and bad) and long-lasting friendships.

I would say the socializing aspect of school is more important than the education itself. Sadly for many people the hierarchal environment is more detrimental than helpful, but it can still be a useful lesson, i.e. learning to forgive your bullies by realizing they were simply trying to survive in such a cruel domain.

The real problem with voting is that it gives you the illusion choice and even if the vote doesn't go your way you feel satisfied. The alternative is that when the vote does go your way the person you elected doesn't end up doing what was promised. I'd estimate that voting as a system staves off revolution by at least 50 years, and when it does break out its immeasurably worse as a result of all that pent up frustration.

So maybe don't double down on the whole public schooling idea? Explore alternatives. It's nice of you to say that kids are innocent but that's just your opinion, man. My kid is going to be worth more to me than your kid will be to me, and it sucks for the kid if nobody cares about them, but that isn't a new problem, and trying to alleviate the human suffering by government mandate will never work. We cease to reach upward and those at the bottom don't benefit from increased upward mobility.
Something given has no value.
Your idea of the right direction is what? To make sure every child gets a college education? Say what then? Then you've only saturated the jobs market with college graduates, which is a net gain for nobody, because the wages will be driven down by the surplus supply. Your intentions are probably good willed but your path is only going to lead to ruin. Look at the how it is panning out in america, with student debt. In your country you pay 50% of your income in taxes? Neither of these systems are ideal.

Do you agree or no?

>This statement alone completely delegitimizes the entire premise of Rule of Law
And therefore it's a priori incorrect?

I'm hardly a utopian. I think communities can handle living amongst themselves without legal hegemony from outside them. You can have actionable moral norms and contracts without it being imposed on you from a bunch of people in suits thousands of miles away and enforced via armed agents who threaten you.

Rogan didn't ask him to write a treatise. And I don't know what "criticisms" you've even made. You've called things "utopian", "naive", a "rant", and made a whole lot of insinuations that you think the position is wrong, all of which without actually saying why.

Do you know what that looks like to OTHER people?
It looks like your brain is going CRIMESTOP.

What do you want addressed? I'll address it if you're actually wanting to make a criticism based in a real, articulated concern.

That's actually pretty racist if you think about the current state of public schools.

Full of brown people: check
Brown people committing acts of violence: check

> calling someone racist on Jow Forums
kek

I don't agree. I'm not saying more kids should go to collage but the parents income should play less of a role. Poor kids are smart too but lack chances/help. For me with kids it's about fairness and equality of opportunity. Good schools for let's say 9 years mandatory.
Look I come from a bad starting point/family but with the help of the community/state I went from future criminal to future academic. But I know many kids smart enough that didn't make it. And with bad public schools you breed problems. Tldr the socioeconomic status of your parents should not determine your chances in life

Erased the 3 at the end.

>only place many people will experience violence from their peers for their entire lives
THIS, is a far bigger problem.

>94% white high income neighborhood
>school board 100% republicans
>a few of the high school kids have Confederate flags on their vehicles

Our public schools are unironically excellent.

Objectively best

i was in 10th grade in 2005 when they added cameras to every hallway and started locking the front gate so no one could leave and paroling it with a golf cart nazi. We used to be able to walk to the gas station across the street for lunch. Any wonder they hiked up the price of school food the week after they did this and removed soda and gatorade from vending machines instead selling them in the cafeteria for a price increase.

Highschool is just a prison where you waste time taking tests so your school can get more funds to give to the obese white women who dont teach shit in class.

>what's the alternative to eating?
>sustenance

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>"Schools are literal prisons for children and the only place where many people will experience violence from their peers for their entire lives."
Literally illiterate. Writing about schools.

>Public schools are shit because parents throw a tantrum every time their child feels stupid and any potential curriculum change gets politicized to hell and back before staying the same
>Michigan tried switching to mostly charter schools and surprise they have no competitors and just milk money out of people while providing them the same or worse education at higher cost
>Simultaneously the world leader in research but our citizens are renowned for being retards around the world

please let me off the wild ride

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Education and school aren't mutually exclusive though.