Was Jesus sent to die to wash away the sins of humanity or was he betrayed...

Was Jesus sent to die to wash away the sins of humanity or was he betrayed? Was he offered by the priests because only holy men can sacrifice the lamb properly? Or were they just assholes that feared losing their power?

Could Jesus have never accomplished anything had he not been killed? Was that the linchpin of his first coming?

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Jesus didn't exist as a historical person. He's just the latest world-saver meme.

Regardless. I'm asking about what the narrative truly suggests. Didn't ask about the validity.

Supposedly Jesus is God and therefore can do anything, right? So he didn't need to be killed, right? He could just have done what he did anyway, right?
Also he could have told us how to make antibiotics, I mean God should know how to make that. Could have helped once the black death came in the 1300s

The Jesus narrative teaches altruism. He was willing to suffer and die for others.

>I'm asking about what the narrative truly suggests.
It's the same narrative as the Eden story. Ideology is bad. In Eden ideology (knowledge of good and evil without God) led to loss of paradise. In the NT, a bunch of people angry that someone threatened their ideology, killed God.

I don't care about the life lessons. I am curious about the mythological rules of the story

He told all his homies to sell their clothes and buy a sword and then told them jk nevermind and got them all murderer lmao Peter still pissed off over that prank

I guess I'm not asking the right questions.

Jesus gave His life. In fact, that is the only way He could have died. That's the irony in the Jews jeering at Him telling Him to save Himself. It wasn't Jesus, but man who was in need of salvation.

What do you mean?

He gave all his homies life too they was pissed lmao

OK shlomo

It's because he was fulfilling his own law.

Also I've heard the antibiotics contention before. The problem would have, where the fuck do you start?

The beginning of what Kyle asks is what I am wondering

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I do not into flash player.

You can change a law which you made up yourself. And in fact that was the whole point of Jesus.
You start with mold, which was everywhere then as it is now, the procedure to not make it lethal to humans isn't very difficult, then you just say it's a miracle cure for certain disease.

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Why do Christians always dodge that question why did Jesus tell everybody to get ready to fight and then instead get all his homies killed lmao

When did that happen lol?

The quote is from the episode Passion of the Jew:

did God send Jesus TO die, or did Jesus just get kind of screwed over?

>It wasn't Jesus, but man who was in need of salvation.
>That's the irony in the Jews jeering at Him telling Him to save Himself.

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>linchpin
A choice. A choice made by "God", orchestrated by "God", to teach mankind a lesson that has yet to be truly understood; and that's IF he existed at all.
Christ was killed for chasing the money-lenders out with a scourge (which is apparently a rope with smaller ropes tied to it with knots on the end, used for punishment and/or leading animals.) The biggest joke is telling people that with his death he has absolved all people for all time of what is known as "sin". This concept is still not truly understood. Apologies if this was more anecdotal than helpful. Do not follow the man, nor the deity he represents. Instead, follow the Light.

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Both. He was supposed to get screwed over by ideologues to show that ideology is bad.

Look how confused and pissed off Peter was. Jesus told everybody "sell your cloak and buy a sword" and bad them ready to fight and then was like "jk bro I'm actually on a suicide mission thanks for joining me"

Put yourself in peters shoes, I'd like to hear what that guy has to say about jesus lmao

OK but Peter didn't die at that point. He lived on for several decades.

*tips fedora*
*vapes*
*supports sodomy*

Why don't your read what he wrote in the Bible?

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that's even worse so he left Peter to deal with a bunch of pissed off Jews lmao

Why he lie tho to begin with tho I'm asking u lmao

Yeah and so he went on to start Christianity together with some of the others.

Luke wasn't a jew, don't be nonspecific.

So let's say I'm open minded to converting, my main question is why did he lie to all his homie to begin with?

Why should anyone believe some dude that apparently jewed his the people that trusted him
The most lol

I'm just saying he got all his homies to run around pissing off everybody then just left like BRB before you die.


Then they all die lmao and that was 2k years ago and they still waiting lol

My main question is if u are trying to convert people why did he lie constantly to all his friends

Same rules as every other world-saver myth.

Why would you convert to any religion? Are you clinically insane? Do you hear voices in your head? Do you believe there are incorporeal entities that affect the real world?

I do find the whole black cube of Saturn at Mecca pre-dating telescopes rather odd to be honest.

Explains that shit that shit wierd

Long story short, Jesus did it for the lulz

The Black Cubes are five ancient weapons of mass destruction created millions of years ago to serve as weapons in the wars between several of the first sentient races to inhabit the Milky Way Galaxy.

Not all Scripture is easy to digest. It appears to me that they needed swords so that the prophecy would be fulfilled, that Jesus would be numbered with the transgressors. Further, Peter's use of the sword during Jesus' arrest may be what distinguished him later to the Romans when he denied Jesus. At no point did Jesus lie. Pray earnestly to God, and He will reveal to you everything you need to know about Him. I will be praying for you user.

Jesus wasnt here for antibiotics... Swedes are so retarded. No wonder your shit country was cursed.

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I'll be watching for results thanks user

What if he is already back and that's who Q is lmao

Yea it's hard to digest shit that clearly don't make no sense

>don't lie
>proceeds to lie to everybody

>get ready for war guys
>jk I'm here to kill myself

Lmao u can see this is a little crazy surely?