Anyone here not see a purpose in having children? They seem to be a burden and expensive. Not to mention life having no inherent meaning or purpose. It seems cruel to subject a sentient being to life. Anyone feel this way? I turn 21 soon but already know I will get sterilized at some point.
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Kids are disgusting, annoying demons and the only reason we should breed is to outcompete non-Whites
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That antinatalism. It's a pretty solid position if you're in the minimize suffering camp. In the real world though, people will continue to have children.
You're still young. Don't make any rash decisions.
Don't wait too long or your fertility will decrease and you'll be plagued with miscarriages.
Had one child at 20. Raised him right and now he's out on his own doing his thing. Plenty of time to spoil yourself as an empty nester. It's hard work but sometimes worth it. If you don't fuck them up in the process.
I thought like this until a few years ago. Almost got a vasectomy at 24 after getting married. Approaching 40 now and about to have a kid - things are going to change massively in your life over the next decade. Don't make a permanent change. Not saying your view is wrong or stupid, just that I was surprised at how things change.
Got a vasectomy at 21. No regrets.
204. Revolutionaries should have as many children as they can. There is strong scientific evidence that social attitudes are to a significant extent inherited. No one suggests that a social attitude is a direct outcome of a person’s genetic constitution, but it appears that personality traits are partly inherited and that certain personality traits tend, within the context of our society, to make a person more likely to hold this or that social attitude. Objections to these findings have been raised, but the objections are feeble and seem to be ideologically motivated. In any event, no one denies that children tend on the average to hold social attitudes similar to those of their parents. From our point of view it doesn’t matter all that much whether the attitudes are passed on genetically or through childhood training. In either case they ARE passed on.
205. The trouble is that many of the people who are inclined to rebel against the industrial system are also concerned about the population problems, hence they are apt to have few or no children. In this way they may be handing the world over to the sort of people who support or at least accept the industrial system. To insure the strength of the next generation of revolutionaries the present generation should reproduce itself abundantly. In doing so they will be worsening the population problem only slightly. And the important problem is to get rid of the industrial system, because once the industrial system is gone the world’s population necessarily will decrease (see paragraph 167); whereas, if the industrial system survives, it will continue developing new techniques of food production that may enable the world’s population to keep increasing almost indefinitely.
Literally no other point to life.
Please do get sterilized.
Jews should be childfree
Enjoy being a stepfather I guess.
Nothing better than having your own family.
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My children will understand that life has no inherent meaning and then create their own meaning through their own individualized moral compass and ambitions.
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Did you know that most men don't start making any real money UNTIL they have children.
In fact women outearn men until that point, where the man's income skyrockets.
There's a reason it's called the patriarchy and not an andrarchy. Because men get an enormous amount of motivation to help their children succeed, and they are the people most invested in keeping a society healthy for the kids.
>he doesn't want to have white sons and be Jow Forums while raising them to leave a strong legacy of self-respecting, hardworking white men as he grows old
>muh money
>muh spontaneous lifestyle
while he wastes his days away infront of a computer for at least 1/3 of the day.
>muh legacy
Literally “shit that happens after I’m dead,” why should I care
Hey Rabbi, sorry I was late to synagogue this week
you were born into this society and reap all the benefits of every generation before you. to enjoy all of this and then leave without creating quality people to replace you is totally selfish. you are a piece of shit if you don't strive to continue this great society for future generations.
Fuck this shit hole planet. I'm taking my white genes with me. Good luck with all the niggers in the future.
Please do. My children are an absolute joy and frankly if I didn't have them I would probably be dead by now from excess.
You are on this planet to complete one task, to have offspring that will extend the human species. If you don't do that you are a traitor to nature.
Exactly. You sterilize yourself, and then my kids don't have to clambor over your kids' bodies to get to the top. I got to spam my genetic code into the future, yours dies with you.
I think money is a good thing to strive for in your late teens and 20s zo you have the capital to raise your family.
the only issue (((Time))) is happy to put hetro whites on the cover
Society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they will never sit in.
yeah when you're in your 60s and have no one to care for you, look after you, even check in on you or have any grandkids to play with go right ahead just just off yourself now.
I still remember visiting my grandad in the hospital in his final days, it was myself, my brother and sister, father, 2 uncles, an aunt and 3 cousins going to visit him when we all pretty much knew it was the end of the line for him, his room mate in that same hospital room had zero family, no one ever came to visit him, say hi to him, check in on him no one, he died alone and cold, knowing that not a single person will remember him and that he left nothing behind
God damn, the theory of everything right there.
I'm not arguing that at all, work your ass off in your 20's, you'll have the most energy, you could get by staying with mom and dad for a few years after highschool or college while saving up for yourself, that's probably the best course to take in life. I see no reason on having kids in your early 20's
Hi mister shlomo!
I didn't ask to be born.
There's a difference between some teen slut jeeping a baby because they were already fucked in the head and planning to have a baby with a warm, caring woman. But, you know, i think it's also pretty normal to sometimes be sitting somewhere and cringe when kids run by screaming.
Ahh ok. I moved out at 16 and was forced down the entrepreneurial route because I was an academic failure. I don't exactly regret it but I also feel like I wasted my late teens and early 20s doing nothing but work and now do not want kids. I think for the common man, there has to be a balance is possible.
My hapa daughter is the sweetest thing and nothing beats a kiss from her. My hapa son is autistic and sneers at the degeneracy of the west. He's a raging alpha and even at 8 it's hard to keep him in check. If he ever snaps and goes Elliot Roger he will have a list of (((people))) to check off, not random Chads and Staceys. I feel that the rage of a thousand Jow Forums incels dwells in him.
and yet you were. and you were very lucky to be born where you are. unironically kill yourself if that's an issue for you, no one chose to be born. You didn't ask for it, but here you are. If you want to keep benefiting from this society, you better damn well contribute. That includes creating the next batch of people who didn't chose to be born but most likely will not regret it.
If there's no purpose in life or anything in life. It means there's no purpose in NOT having children.
yeah, but how many is too many?
This is exactly why my wife and I at 30 decided to have children. We were the no kids people, have been together since 18 without kids. We had this talk one night at the bar and something snapped inside both of us. I am pretty sure that I knocked her up that night.
Best thing I ever did. I can't imagine not doing it, and for all the 'fun' that kidless people have - BULLSHIT. Your life loses more meaning every year, you can't do cool young person shit forever without looking like a loser, it just gets boring. You have money and time, but most of your friends are gone with their families.
I don't envy any of my friends who have not had children. But I am pretty sure at some points they envy what I have.
Get a load of this faggot
You failed to affirm the value of your life, so you had kids? What the fuck? Read everything by Plato to solve that problem -- cheaper, more fun, more meaningful, not morally ambiguous, overall a far better option.
Kill yourself and end your suffering then
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reminds me of my 18 year old girlfriend. never wanted to have kids until she met me. then boom, one day she decided that she wanted to have kids. Just not until she's done with college.
I think the media and shit is all lies to try to topple western civilization and our nation.
>Anyone here not see a purpose in having children?
The entire purpose of existence is solely to exist for the exact purpose of continuing the species so IT can continue to exist you fucking dunce. Failure to fulfill this basic facet of existence makes you little more than a parasite that needs to be eradicated for the greater good of the species
>They seem to be a burden
They are a responsibility. Anyone who equates responsibility as a burden is a hedonistic pile of shit and goes back to point 1
>and expensive.
Subjective. If you're a worthless fucking NEET then they are expensive.
>Not to mention life having no inherent meaning or purpose
back to point one
>It seems cruel to subject a sentient being to life
Back to the happiness fallacy, that one must "be happy" every waking moment to appreciate existence. This has its roots in hedonism.
>I turn 21 soon but already know I will get sterilized at some point.
That sterilization better be a bullet in roof of your mouth. Failure to procreate makes you a failure and burden on the entire human race. A degenerate hedonist that serves no purpose and needs to be treated like the parasite you are. What makes it worse is you allowed yourself to be programmed by liberal jewish media which further proves you're weak of will and mind.
I agree.
I came to a crossroads at 27 and my wife asked me to start a family. I quit drinking and knocked her up. We have two kids now and plan to have several more.
My childless friends are all completely degenerate, acting like they're 21, going to gay ass music festivals, racing on Saturday nights, and going to clubs still. We're all 29-30. I don't envy them at all. Having children made me grow up and become a man. I feel like a fucking king.
Unless you are in the top ~20% or so (looks, money) and your kid is pretty much guaranteed a good life there is definitely no purpose in it. You are just producing another pleb whose life is going to be sort of ok and is highly subjected to the whims of cuckservative and leftist scum.
When they are about 5-15 it's pretty fun living that kid life vicariously. Going to the zoo and shit.
Vanity, vanity, all is vanity and grasping in the wind. The meaning of life is to love God and having children isn't necessarily a requirement.
That's ironic, should have ended with..because everyone is a retarded faggot.
>Anyone here not see a purpose in having children?
Not being like the "childfree" is a pretty appealing one.
I chose to be fruitful and multiply, but parenthood isn't for everyone. If you're considering the childfree life for hedonist reasons that is degenerate and you will eventually find yourself feeling empty. If you choose to be childfree in order to focus on devoting yourself to God and loving your fellow neighbor as commanded that is admirable. You could be a skilled preacher, doctor, inventor, warrior, etc. Thank God for the life he gave you and put it to good use!
im a filthy hapa (50/50 vietnamese and white). should i reproduce? im high iq but mental illnesses run in my family
Based and redpilled.
>I didn't ask to be born.
cry harder you melodramatic bitch
I was a degenerate for most of my 20s and 30s, fucking roasties and hot bitches left and right like a dog in heat. At 38, woke up and stopped the bullshit entirely. Got married in my early 40s to a younger white woman and had my first child mid 40s. I had two more kids in quick succession and it is the greatest thing to see. You don’t know what true love is until you have your own children. They give meaning to your life and they motivate you to be better at everything. My only regret was that I had them so late. Best age to start us 30 and be done by 35.
Don’t listen to all the degenerates and incels. All those fags will be dying alone with no one around to help them wipe their own asses when they won’t be able to unless they pay thousands.
Realtalk: you have a job to spread either your genes or your memes. Most of the great innovators and artists throughout history either declined to reproduce biologically or had children who drastically failed in duplicating their parents' legacy, their biological lineages often ending with them as well.
So if you choose not to have offspring―which can be a good thing if you're autistic or have some other net negative condition the species can do without, or is such makes you literally incapable of competent parenthood―you had better do your best of spreading the redpills or inventing the next vital sexbot tech.
Good morning Chaim. How's the weather in Tel Aviv?
M just pumping and dumping bitches.
What a madman.
News at 11.
>sterilize yourself
Why not just remain celibate? Also why do you think he would care about your faggot kids?
You can decide to not have children and yet still not be parasitic. You can also have children and also be a parasite.
Fag culture.
100 or so years ago, people hardly had money mostly bartering was done. And children were a VERY valuable commodity. Hell they pretty much were capital. Women were more tame. Family values were strong. Nowadays.. everything has a price tag on it. Even your own head as someone gets payed when you die. Children no longer are valued just seen as a huge loss of money. Kids are pretty worthless these days in our cucked culture. They don’t produce anything as dad is hardly ever around (probably divorce raped or he pumped dumped) neither is mom because moms are supposed to be stronk and independent. So dad isn’t teaching a kid how to hunt and work the farm or how to be a productive citizen single or divorced momma just puts a phone in front of kids face and they get their mind loaded in degenerate Jew bullshit I’ve even seen moms just put kids in front of game console, to play fucking grand theft auto... kids Eat McDonald’s. Are 200 lbs at age 12 and can hardly walk.
The real problem is.... western society has been jewed. It’s not that children themselves are inherently useless. It’s just that society is degenerate and cucked.
And to think I used to think giving them suffrage was a good idea.
I work as a nurse at a retirement home. All I'm saying is that there is absolutely no guarantee your children will actually visit you, or even bother to show up when you're dying.