Should tipping be legal? In Europe you don't tip, or very little like 50 cents.
In America you are expected to give 20% of your overpriced meal and your insanely overpriced drink, ($7 for a fucking beer? Come on!) to this bimbo who just brings it out to you and sets it on the table... Whoopdedoo! If anyone deserves a tip it's the chef, having to work in a hot kitchen flipping shit in a pan and timing everything just right. But the chef makes less than the cunt who just asks you what you want and tells the chef to make it...
It's like a strip club where you have to throw money at a whore but this whore isn't even throwing her ass in your face. How about restaurants just pay waitresses a fair wage instead of guilt tripping us into paying for them.
Fuck tipping
Okay, so don't tip. That's your right. It's also the server's right to hock a Jurassic loogie into your beer whenever you stop by for a second visit.
That sounds illegal.
I used to always tip 20% ever since I've seen servers complaining about tips I cut it to 10 and only give 20 for spectacular service.
You may want to educate yourself on your state or regions assault laws.
NINE ONE ONE
OFFICER, I HATE POOR PEOPLE AND ONE OF THEM MIGHT HAVE DONE SOMETHING TO THE DRINK I DIDN'T PAY THEM ENOUGH FOR
For, it is the service you are paying for not exactly the food. Your bitch ass could stay home, cook your own under-priced meal, serve it to yourself, clean your dishes, clean your table and fuck your white nagging wife who probly always asks for the manager when her steak is cooked just a little too well-done and wont force it down her throat like she does your cock cause she has to put up with a sorry excuse of a marriage.
Just a reminder no hospitality worker would actually do this as it's simply not worth the shit you'd get if caught
>carries $20 bottle of wine to table
>I deserve $4
>carries $200 bottle of wine to table
>I deserve $40
it is a way for restaurants to subsidize employee wages. in addition to being price gouged you get to pay 20% more to some idiot to bring food to your table. High functioning dogs who help the disabled are capable of the same things and all they want is a pat on the head. #ENDTIPPING
You're not required to tip, numbnuts.
t. waiter
I get people drunk and they tip me because they like me, and know i don’t make shit if people don’t tip. I will make more in one night than an 80-hour min wage paycheck. If people want to give me money, who the fuck are you to say they shouldn’t? Tipping illegal? Go back to communist Europe you worthless faggot
Why are servers always butthurt about their profession?
>Can afford to drink $200 bottles of wine
>Can't afford to tip a bit more
Because unless you’ve worked in the service industry you will always be ignorant to what they make and how they are treated.
Working as a server is voluntary. If you don't like it you can always wash dish.
You don't have to tip
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You could mail your own fucking letters by driving your car across the country, or kill and butcher your own cow, grow and pick your corn, too. Yet those people are never tipped.
Why isn't that service?
yeah, it's such an obscure line of work. It's not like the average person did it at some point or another in their youth or anything
and they are so fucking entitled. You dont even make the food! retarded robots will be able to replace you in 3 yrs.
everybody knows what they make, maybe they should take it upon themselves to find a better job or learn a marketable skill.
Waitress:
Four minutes of time devoted to you; end up staring at empty plate too long, waiting for the tab long after food and conversation are over by any reasonable measure; robotically asks if everything's all right at some point but doesn't give a shit what the answer is and assumes as a matter of right that any answer won't result in any more effort on her part.
Expects a minimum of 15 percent and rolls eyes if less than 25. No nexus between amount and level or quality of service.
Broker: sends me newsletters, analytical charts and recommendations at least quarterly or as needed; sets up meet once per year to identify any change in conditions, goals, etc. Gives you brokerage swag sometimes; investments shepherded by him earns me $25-$50K per year.
Takes 1-1.2 percent.
*Pays taxes to corn subsidies*
*Pays taxes to fund post office*
The only people on the planet that don’t tip are as follows
>anyone with brown/black skin
>poor people
>people that had terrible service
The last kind is acceptable. If you feel like your service was shitty, do not tip. They did a bad job.
If you’re poor or a shitskin, stay at home. We don’t want to see, hear or smell you.
>inb4 t.waiter
I’ve never been unfortunate enough to be a waiter, but I have my opinions on it
I have done that. And that is a shit job that’s under appreciated. Also the pay is almost always min wage.
You would be surprised.
Just don't tip if you don't want to retard.
TO explain the mechanics of this better from someone who used to work in service industry
employees other than servers get tipped out, kitchen, host team, bussing team. That means that when you leave $10 on $100 the server gets 5 and the other staff get 5, here's the catch.
If no tip is left, those servers still have to tip out. That means that you are in effect expecting your server to pay out of their own pocket for the pleasure of having served you. Which is bullshit.
>Tipping is stupid why not fixed prices
because you commie retard tipping gives incentives for good service, it gives the customer more control over how much they feel what they ordered/their experience was worth. If there was no tipping you would be charged more and have no choice, if your server killed your dog and spilt wine on you, too bad they get good money anyways.
>pay waitresses a fair wage
So when I do a great job I don't get anything better than someone who is shit because we get the same wage. Thanks Stalin.
Of course europoors would complain about the pricing, sorry you get taxed so high up your asses you can't afford a beer.
Just get take out
I dont know why someone would actually want to pay money to interact with a single mom
Maybe they’re trying to? Rent doesn’t pay itself.
Tipping is fucking retarded.
Lol keep thinking that.
I worked in a family owned place that would do shit like that all the time.
They’d straight up eat off customers plates before bringing it out.
They’d get 20% of the meal then 20% of the price of the meal afterwards.
America in general needs to drastically change our culture of what to expect when going out. Only in America do we expect servers to be super friendly and happy and checking tables every 5 minutes. Other countries don't do this weird shit.
Yep same, the more fucking bitching they do for a job that takes next to zero working brain capacity the less I'm willing to give them consistently
As a waiter/bartender, there's no need for tipping.
That said, tipping in places where they don't expect it (like Turkey) has a huge impact which is kinda fun.
The usual retort is: why do they get a tip for doing their job correctly? Why not just get fired for not doing it well like every other type of job?
I saw a viral meme "challenge" going around the past few weeks about "tip the bill". eg: if your bill is $50 tip $50, if your bill is $107.83 tip $107.83.
It's just a coincidence goy that everybody I saw sharing it happened to be 30-something lefty liberal cucks still working shit-tier service jobs at their age. Almost like they had some vested interest in pushing such a meme.
Yeah fuck having someone who’s taking care of you be in a good mood and friendly. What selfish assholes.
to which the response is ofc, enjoy constantly below-par but not bad enough to get me fired service
>I used to always tip 20% ever since I've seen servers complaining about tips I cut it to 10 and only give 20 for spectacular service.
I have quite a few friends in the service industry. So if I am dealing with their crew, I take care of them accordingly (and they take care of me for having an "in" with the restaurant crew).
Believe it or not, if you're cool with a lot of people and you tip will -- it comes back to you. Maybe a free appetizer, or getting a free drink on the house, etc.
then they need to do it better or faster or they suffer the consequences of a misspent life
To which I reply "I'll have my food to-go, thanks"
Won't be able to afford much if you consistently overpay for shit.
you’re fucking retarded
Eating or drinking out, isn’t necessary to achieve sustenance or intoxication. It’s a luxary. If you can’t afford a tip, you can always stop by a deli or a liquor store.
>>pay waitresses a fair wage
>So when I do a great job I don't get anything better than someone who is shit because we get the same wage. Thanks Stalin.
If you ever get into a line of work that doesn't involve competing with teenagers and NEETs for industry position, you are going to be profoundly disappointed.
good, plenty of places are built around that, mcdonalds, in-n-out.
>Just a reminder no hospitality worker would actually do this as it's simply not worth the shit you'd get if caught
Depends on the place. The lower quality joint with the more shit-tier high turnover rate employees, the bigger the probability of something like this happening.
There's also things like picrelated.
I worked as a server at one point and can guarantee that they don't deserve a tip whatsoever. If you're stuck in the service industry and claim it's your only way to survive, can not get another job: you're fucking retarded and should off yourself.
>incentives
No, it's holding "service" hostage and ripping off the customers because Americans are congenitally incapable of declaring what the full price of a thing is. It's some weird Jewish trait, i guess.
>but muh great job!
You should be doing a good job anyway. How much of an impact do you really think you're making anyway to earn that much more of a cookie?
I used to see threads about servers on social media bitching all the time. It would piss me off, fuck those entitled cunts.
This.
People that argue otherwise are generally poor or black.
Please, if you’re poor or black, stay in your shack/apartment unless you have to go to work, you are clogging up the streets and taking tables from hardworking white Americans.
they dont have to be MEAN but they also dont have to be super, over happy and peppy. That is not normal.
Wait shit didn't notice the flag let me explain that for you
you Learn yourself much good skills you get much good money.
you don't learn skills you make no money, you be poor and can't buy things so you get a sad.
Did that clear it up for you old chum ?
Many of them don't report all of their wages either. The federal guideline is something like 5 or 8 percent of sales, so when you give them a $2 tip they report $0.50 on their taxes. A large part of their income comes from taxes soooo.....
No one would tip anything if they knew what some of these servers / bartenders were taking home tax free.
if you would have just put the roofie in the girl's drink I would have tipped 100%, but no you had principles
>Only in America do we expect servers to be super friendly and happy and checking tables every 5 minutes. Other countries don't do this weird shit.
Yeah fuck making sure your water has been refilled as you're trying to choke down some bread
Oh cool, you work harder than other people? Then you should also share more of that hard work with me...
Your first point can be applied to any job that takes commission, do you also hate car salesmen, everybody who has worked in retail, and every single businessman whose ever been awarded percentage based bonuses on sales?
>You should be doing a great job anyway
Tell that to every centrally planned economic system.
this
guys can easily make more money doing labour or construction, pick up a manual skill like welding and you can live a decent life.
or you can dwell in poverty acting like a giant faggot crying about your lack of tips and waste your free staring at the tv.
>do you also hate car salesmen
Yes. The worst.
>everybody who has worked in retail
Most of the annoying ones. The helpful ones are great.
>every single businessman whose ever been awarded percentage based bonuses on sales
Depends on their sales tactics and how honest they are.
do Americans not know how to eat ? or are you just shoveling the food into your jiggling lard covered jowls with such ferocity that you are likely to die without constant supervision
I love visiting America on business trips in my Hermes suits and tipping 0 dollars on a ~$500 client meal. Knowing that it upsets literal human garbage waiters like the ones ITT is almost as enjoyable as the meal itself.
Can some retard waiter in here explain how it’s makes sense that I’m supposed to tip you 2 dollars if you bring me a sandwich but 20 dollars if you bring me a steak? The number of plates hasn’t changed so your level of work objectively hasn’t changed.
Because she tipped me more. It was a Han Solo kinda thing.
>do you also hate car salesmen
Yes. It's a radically different service model, but basically the whole new car industry is hilariously fucked.
>and every single businessman whose ever been awarded percentage based bonuses on sales?
A bonus is okay, but nowadays they just lock the regular pay behind it, so you have to push lousy products to customers who don't need them to meet your own targets.
>t. Bank employee
>Tell that to every centrally planned economic system.
K. I'll tell them to emulate us here.
>do Americans not know how to eat ? or are you just shoveling the food into your jiggling lard covered jowls with such ferocity that you are likely to die without constant supervision
I don't know if it's genetic or what but I have a narrow esophagus or something. Sometimes food has a hard time going down, like dry food such as bread. My mom has the same problem
If you ever go to the States, check out a place called Cracker Barrel for an answer to that question.
>Hermes suits
>not wearing bespoke
>paying for some over-priced namebrand
Yup, Asian trash detected.
So you acknowledge that tipping is a form of extortion?
when i see the bartender hook me up i tip 100% of the value given.
I would rather the money go to the server than the owner, no tipping means higher prices, and most of that isn’t going to the wait staff
Nah, you don't have to do it.
Sounds like you need a service union or something instead.
leave it to a fag to encourage acting like a total faggot
We don't tip in Australia and when Ive visited the United states I've never had service which was any better than here.
Just a bunch of greedy and lazy cunts who think filling up a cup and bringing a plate to you is hard work.
>no tipping means higher prices
when you tip you're paying a higher fucking price, retard
This. If I ever visit USA (unlikely given my convictions but yknow), I want to tip nothing and sit there with a 'fucking what cunt' expression when they get grumpy.
Tipfags btfo
>If I ever visit USA (unlikely given my convictions but yknow),
>Aussie
>Has "convictions"
>Comes from an Island where the Britfags would send their degenerates, criminals, vagrants, lowlifes, and waste people
Yup. Makes sense. WTF did you do m8?
Fuck off Boomer Fuck. Unions did so well in Australia that the Major Aussies companies fucked off overseas. I hope some kills you, Commie fuck.
I saw yanks talking about tipping the other day. I was reading an article about increased taxes in the us and realised its caused by tipping.
See if you rely on tips for your workers instead of paying them they are avoiding tax.
He gave a high five to a single feminist. And got cucked by police for Grevious Bodily Harm, assualt and rape
>If i suck jewish cock, they'll surely respect me and pay me more!
You sure inhaled the propaganda.
and its the health inspector's right to shut the place down and the owner's right to fire the server, and my right to wait in the parking lot and find out where the server lives
>If I suck literal Criminal sick and pay them racketeering money, they'll take away 50% of my pay, for 5 more hours per week.
Get fucked Boomer, Economics dictates that if something is too expensive, a company or production will go elsewhere that's cheaper.
Cooks get tipped out and usually make more in base salary. 10/10 guy is a jew. blacks also don't tip but don't complain about the fact that they are expected to. Stop being a whiny faggot jew and just own up to your own inner niggerdom.
It's hard to comprehend this thread as an Asian.
Do you not what extortion is, fuckwit? You don't *have* to pay off a racketeer either.
Multiple DUI's.
Kek
I don't tip at places that force employees to share tips.
I'm not awarding shitty workers.
>Go to PRC
> Get literal duck fetus boiled in childrens piss
>Don't need to pay tips to food vendors.
Gee I wonder why Chang?...
In America we tip servers minimum 15% so they don't spit in our food. It's not ideal, but the alternative is they'll spit in our food.
Kys cunt. Drunk drivers are fuckhead cunts. Die cunt.
Fuck you, I hope I run over your kid and get away with it cunt.
You're right, we should thus ditch all employee protections entirely. There's no detriment to that at all.
And I know that modern unions are bullshit as well. Jews couldn't let something that powerful stand against them unchallenged for long.
Imagine living with this hostage mentality. Don't pay someone for doing something they already get paid for.
you should tip you get better service and bonus shit tip the guy who cooks for you you get more food tip the delivery driver you food comes faster
You're a pathetic piece of shit. You probably will end up killing someone you alcoholic fuck, weak as piss you can't even control a simple thing like driving sober.
Hopefully you die soon.
This is why I cook all of my meals
Don't have to deal with faggot waiters and I don't have to tip
>Multiple DUI's.
I'm not sure if that will get you banned. Maybe. Canada, probably for sure if its been less than 10 years. Americans get denied at the border all the time for such things.