Why do lefties call the right nazis/hitler while nazis where socialist

why do lefties call the right nazis/hitler while nazis where socialist

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they always project

This board is fucking shit and i'm glad it's getting euthanized.

thank god, this board is finally coming to an end.

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why do nazis hate socialists when the nazis were socialist?

do they hate socialists?

it's ending? is that when 4channel becomes a thing?

its easy to call some one a nazi but then atleast call the right people nazis and not the wrong people

interesting enough National Socialism is actually extremely liberal.

>939843
>it's ending? is that when 4channel becomes a thing?
b is getting sfw and a special nsfw

>What is George Orwell
>Black is White
>War is Peace
>Freedom is Slavery

its right on the part of non Aryans and left on the part of social security

the ones today do, but not the old ones

>a fag
> fuck of white is right
> if you nuke the right countrys like the middle east
>i hope i can get a fucking slave again to do my garden

>not the old ones
well they where left for their time you gotta look at in perspective even the lefties in the 1900 1800s where against abortion and look at them now

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lees toch meer boeken hoor

nazis zijn socalist NATIONAAL SOCIALISTEN

>Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei,
> national socialist German workers party

Why do Republicans call Democrats Socialists? Why don't Christians understand the difference between political party and political system Socialism? Is it because you believe words, rather than creation? Kind of ironic. You claim to worship creation, but you do nothing but destroy god's creation and believe words who haven't been proven.

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>Advocacy groups (also known as pressure groups, lobby groups, campaign groups, interest groups, or special interest groups) use various forms of advocacy in order to influence public opinion
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobbying
>including individuals in the private sector

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Israel_Public_Affairs_Committee
>One of several pro-Israel lobbying organizations in the United States,[4] AIPAC states that it has more than 100,000 members
>private donations

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_lobby_in_the_United_States
>The Israel lobby (at times called the Zionist lobby) is the diverse coalition of those who, as individuals and as groups, seek to influence the foreign policy of the United States in support of Israel or the specific policies of its government. The lobby consists of secular, Christian, and Jewish-American individuals and groups.
>60% of money raised from private sources

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>The Republican Jewish Coalition (RJC), formerly the National Jewish Coalition, founded in 1985, is a 501(c)(4) political lobbying group in the United States that promotes Jewish Republicans.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Jewish_Democratic_Council
>The National Jewish Democratic Council (NJDC) is a political lobbying organization dedicated to promoting Jewish values within the Democratic Party and the political process.

>, but you do nothing but destroy god's creation and believe words who haven't been proven.
good thing i dont believe in gowd

Are you sure you understand the difference between:
a.)deciding
b.)electing one of Jew sponsored candidates deciding for you
You can't possibly understand Socialism if you don't understand this. Republicans claim to be individualists, but then they don't care about laws or decisions, they think some god emperor will do everything for them. As we know god emperor didn't build any wall, didn't change any laws, didn't deport illegals.

>possibly understand Socialism if you don't understand this. Republicans claim to be individualists, but then they don't care about laws or decisions, they think some god emperor will do everything for them. As we know god emperor didn't build any wall, didn't cha
im not from the usa so the system is way different here

>National socialism
>Has the word "socialism" in it
>Socialism means to seize means of production and private property
>NatSoc economy embraces free market and private property
>NatSocs are economically right-wing while keeping socialist values such as social democracies do
For the last fucking time Crowder, stop pushing that retarded horseshoe rhetoric. Me and the other guys are starting to get tired of this stupidity.

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>As we know god emperor didn't build any wall, didn't change any laws, didn't deport illegals.

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>Me and the other guys are starting
thats basically modern socialism here

ty

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EU is American system that isn't Socialism, because people decide nothing, not even who builds on land they own. It's all decided by elected internationally sponsored and approved politicians or their money sponsors. This is what democracy is, always was in American mind. We know this can't be real democracy or socialism where demos the people decide. People is everybody who is the owner of land, but problem is we aren't even owners of land any more because of this democracy of voting. Now foreigners can vote too, since there's no difference between them and natives in capitalism, anybody can buy anything, right? Capitalism works when you get 100 times lower salary for same work and USA can print unlimited money and invest into every country. LE COMPETITION, LE INVESTMENT, LE JOB CREATION, LE COMPLETE RETARD OF 0 IQ!

>was in American mind. We know this can't be real democracy or socialism where demos the people decide. People is everybody who is the owner of land, but problem is we aren't even owners of land any more because of this democracy of voting. Now fo
>america
>democracy

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They were socialist before Hitler took over, but purged the party of socialists and took it in a new direction towards fascism. It only kept the name.

If that still confuses you as dumb cunt Americans (yes you people are fucking dumb as shit worse than any nigger I've ever met), just remember that the Democratic People's Republic of North Korea is not Democratic or a People's Republic.

Why do you keep posting that you VPN proxy of CIA Christian glow in dark nigger? There's no source to that speech, no German source, that was made by English newspaper. You are quoting yellow paper nonsense.

katana17.wordpress.com/category/marxist-utopia/
>Hitler had this to say about the meaning of “Socialism” for Germany, as printed in an article in the UK’s “Guardian, Sunday Express,” December 28, 1938
>bla bla ... Both charges are false.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama
>January 20, 2009 – January 20, 2017
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump
>Assumed office January 20, 2017

ICE deportations:
2016: 240,255
2017: 226,119
>picture related

USA importations:
1.)Legal migrants:
dhs.gov/immigration-statistics/yearbook/2017/table1
>Persons Obtaining Lawful Permanent Resident Status
>2017 1,127,167
>2016 1,183,505
>2015 1,051,031
>2014 1,016,518
>2013 990,553
>2012 1,031,631
>2011 1,062,040
>2010 1,042,625
2.)Illegal migrants:
nextbigfuture.com/2017/02/california-could-pass-40-million-in.html
>The US Census has been estimating about 11-12 million illegals for nearly two decades. Ann Coulter is famous for estimating that there are 30 million illegals.

Donald Trump deported less people than Barack Obama.

In 2017 and 2018 there are more migrants, more guns, less wages, more divorces than ever before in USA history. Keep believing monkey nigger.

Donald Trump is the biggest refugee sponsor:
unrefugees.org/about-us/
>USA for UNHCR helps and protects refugees and people displaced by violence, conflict and persecution. Supporting UNHCR – the UN Refugee Agency – and its partners, we provide lifesaving essentials including shelter, water, food, safety and protection. Around the world, we help refugees survive, recover and build a better future.
>Established by concerned American citizens, USA for UNHCR is a 501(c) (3) non-profit organization, headquartered in Washington, D.C.

Top sponsors for refugees:
unhcr.org/donors.html
>2017: Top 10 government donors
>Donor USD
>United States of America 1,450,360,238
>Germany 476,918,668
>European Union 436,036,986

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well fascism is left weasel if i'm correct well at least more left then right since right is really about freedom and fascism is clearly not

Your'e either bating or retarded.

I bet you believe the DPRK is actually a republic too.

Christian anti-Communist democrats of American capitalism:
1.)created NATO:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Globke
>Religion Roman Catholic
>Chief of Staff of the German Chancellery in West Germany from 28 October 1953 to 15 October 1963
>strong anti-communist stance
>He was the German government's main liaison with NATO and other western intelligence services, especially the CIA.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany
>West Germany joined NATO in 1955

2.)created German law:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_Law_for_the_Federal_Republic_of_Germany
>The Basic Law was approved on 8 May 1949 in Bonn, and, with the signature of the western Allies of World War II on 12 May
>During reunification, the two states discussed the possibility of drafting a new common constitution followed by a plebiscite, as envisioned in Art. 146 (1990), but this path was ultimately not taken. Instead the Federal Republic of Germany and the German Democratic Republic decided to keep the Basic Law with only minor changes

3.)created refugee laws:
original refugee law:
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abkommen_über_die_Rechtsstellung_der_Flüchtlinge
>Am 22. April 1954 trat die Konvention in den ersten sechs Unterzeichnerstaaten in Kraft (Australien, Belgien, Bundesrepublik Deutschland, Dänemark, Luxemburg, Norwegen).
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmut_Kohl
>Chancellor of Germany from 1982 to 1998 (of West Germany 1982–1990 and of the reunited Germany 1990–1998) and as the chairman of the Christian Democratic Union (CDU) from 1973 to 1998.

4.)EU is USA
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_of_Europe
>The United States of Europe, the European state,[1][2] the European superstate, the European federation and Federal Europe are names used to refer to several similar hypothetical scenarios of the unification of Europe as a single sovereign federation of states (hence superstate), similar to the United States of America

Wew lad, the speech being legitimate or not is irrelevant once you consider the bullet points on my first post. So if someone actually believes that Nazis were commies that person is either confused or simply ignorant.

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the eu wants to be kinda like the usa with being one nation with different rules but we arent fully yet since we dont have 1 army but seperate armys once we do we will probbaly form a super nation

never said they are commies there is a huge difference between socialism and communism

Lets consider the bullet points:
1.)Hitler ran against Christian right-wing:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_von_Hindenburg
>the Catholic Centre and other democratic parties united to support the Centre's Wilhelm Marx, who had twice served as chancellor and was now Minister President of Prussia. The Communists insisted on running their own candidate. The parties on the right established a committee to select their strongest candidate. After a week's indecision they decided on Hindenburg
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_presidential_election,_1932
>Paul von Hindenburg, first elected in 1925
>His major opponent in the election was Adolf Hitler of the Nazi Party (NSDAP).

2.)Hitler wasn't a Christian
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirchenkampf
>Hitler's goal in the Kirchenkampf entailed not only ideological struggle, but ultimately the eradication of the churches
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler_and_vegetarianism
>Goebbels also agreed with Hitler that ‘meat eating is a perversion in our human nature,’ and that Christianity was a ‘symptom of decay’, since it did not urge vegetarianism.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winston_Churchill's_October_5th_Speech_to_the_House_of_Commons
>there can never be friendship between the British democracy and the Nazi power, that power which spurns Christian ethics, which cheers its onward course by a barbarous paganism

3.)Christians tried to kill Hitler
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dietrich_Bonhoeffer
>was a German Lutheran pastor, theologian, anti-Nazi dissident, and key founding member of the Confessing Church
>being associated with the plot to assassinate Adolf Hitler

4.) Nazis allied with Communists
5.) Catholics didn't vote for Hitler, picture related

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> there is a huge difference between socialism and communism

Well, they are the same if you consider the seizing of means of production and private property. Even that Marx faggot said that socialism leads to communism. Now, if you consider how modern socialism is more of an ethical system rather than an economical system then yes, communism and socialism are very different. Also consider how for the average american libertarian anything slightly left to neo-conservationism is "communism"...

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>s of production and private property. Even that Marx faggot said that socialism leads to communism. Now, if you consider how modern socialism is more of an ethical system rather than an economical system then yes, communism and socialism are very different. Also consi
socialism still gives freedom and leaves stuff to the people(not everything but still a bit) communism everything is for the government

but we aint talking about the usa since their politics are restarted anyways

>the left are the real racist
Fuck off boomernigger. Fuck your dumb argument.

Well. Hitlerism was one thing. The original NSDAP was another. Strasserism also another.

>but we aint talking about the usa

yes I know, its just that it has been years and years of lurking and assimilating how the american mindset perceives the word "socialism" so you eventually have to learn to talk in their political language to convey any sort of understanding.

>ck your dumb argument.
>talks about socialism
>no youre racist
>calls me a nigger
>profit?

now fuck of and go fuck some apes like youre used to. have fun being a nazi u fucking socialist

> Literally purged communists
> Literally got popular by appealing to cappies that were afraid of a communist takeover
> Literally saw Bolshevism as the biggest Jewish conspiracy that needs to be destroyed
> Socialist

Jow Forums has a serious case of brain worms

>yes I know, its just that it has been years and years of lurking and assimilating how the american mindset perceives the word "socialism" so you eventually have to learn to talk in their political language to convey any sort of un
> "by the power of god "

fair enough

And by Hitlerism not meaning in a negative way. Just post-election NatSoc.

>23 posts by this ID
Whatever gases kikes like you is fine in my book.

i tought so its cool but who actually cares about being called a nazi its an ad hominem anyways
the weakest kind of argument (personal insult instead of a good counter argument)

25 faggot
atleast i reply to stuff directed at me

>national socialism's goal is to save the white race!
>kills 40 million whites

thats comunism

fuck off jew

Because they are terrified everyone will realise that socialism is inherently tyrannical, so claim that they're right wing because "muh nationalism" and focus on that aspect of them.

That, and they're fucking really stupid idealists.

>tyrannical, so claim that they're right wing because
ty

The majority of this thread makes me hope that humanity nukes itself into oblivion.

Left-Right polarisation is a myth.

/thread

who doesn't really

Left/right political party is a myth, but not left/right political system. Democracy is right wing system, which runs left and right political parties. None of them change any laws, especially not in EU, since they literally can't, aren't allowed. When you burden left or right political system with too many international contracts then it all becomes pointless anyway. Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin and Mao were both the system and the political party, but none of democratic parties are the system, they are just puppets run on top of system, like little ISPs are run on top of big ISPs who control the wires and little ones can't overthrow them, since it's the system of big ones.

Have we eradicated the white right or is there more work to do?

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>why do leftists have stupid beliefs
hmm

The guy with the monocle is Dan Crenshaw, TX.

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>rich boy
>loser
pick one

If you want to die of starvation in a freezing cold stalineasque prison, keep voting Republican.

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Tell me then which countries/political systems are left or right then, give me some examples, and I'll prove how wrong you are.

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i think the lefties call us nazis because of the "Nationalist" part of it

lefties today aren't National Socialists they're Globalist Socialists they want open borders and the right to burn the American flag and kneel during the anthem, they have no love for the USA they just want free shit and to give the countries resources to anyone who shows up at the border

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I'm glad this board is dying desu
All discussion about national socialism is one of the two:
>Durr it's just German fascism
>Durr it's socialism
You're all retarded and i hate you all, sieg heil

By the way, a national socialist is not a marxist socialist, national bolsheveiks are what you think national socialists are.

God I miss Obama.

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All countries have right wing system, all central banks have dollars as exchange, every currency runs on top of dollar. Google which currencies don't and you will know left wing system countries or hybrids between left and right. NATO, UN, OECD and IMF are American organizations.
OECD writes your economy laws.
NATO controls your army.
IMF controls your money.
UN controls human rights laws.
As bare minimum to be independent you have to control the army, that's how dictators start, when they control money they become more than dictators and eventually when they control the economic and human laws you can start being independent.

oh sweetie, you don't know? the U.S. is a global socialist jewish regime. the left an the right dichotomy is just a comforting reminder of what used to be. this version of communism works, but not for you.

wut

Hitler was adamantly a socialist. He wrote extensively about it and his ambition to help the working class and get people out of poverty in Mein Kampf.

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Butthole Lips Trump

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Obongo the nig nog who bombed the fuck out of Syria, created ISIS and increased racial tensions and was generally just a slimy, untrustworthy corporate puppet.

I would argue that every country has elements of both, whatever these elements are supposed to be... Also totalitarian systems/dictatorships aren't necessarily right wing, since the "lefties" often wish for state interference (which would imply the murcan organisations that you listed), while the "right wing" often doesn't.

Can you by any chance give me a typology or characteristics of left/right countries?

Because the only way to redistribute goods is to first accumulate them in one place, and then send them off, implying the need of a central bank or something of the sort.

Elements of both? There's only a question if you as people or leader of your country decides or somebody else(billionaires, other countries, internationalists) decides. How this works now: UN provided blueprint for refugee law, your country's politicians write a version of that law which has to have all features of blueprint, but they can go beyond that. Going beyond that is the only election democracy you have. So in case of Germany/Austria they extended refugee law to also provide schooling for refugees, which wasn't demanded by blueprint refugee law. Of course real democracy is that after dictator evolves country into independence that collective decides every law, but we gotta start somewhere, which normally starts with taking full control of own country's army.

you are already living in a distopian nightmare.

If I follow your thought, then there's no such thing as a "leftist" country/pol. system, because populism rules the world, which works in my favour, because if there's no Leftist countries, then the polarisation between left and right can't exist.

Natsoc was most definately not socialist/communist. They were however upholding the social contract of their people and had 'free´ healthcare and education. Because they wanted meritocracy not plutocracy. Natsoc is meritocracy on overdrive, socialist/communism is the opposite.
>“The National Socialist State does not recognize an economic law of the jungle. The common interest of the nation – i.e. of our Volk – has priority over the interests of all its competing components. Therefore we cannot allow that any means suited for utilization in our Volk’s training and education be exempted from this shared obligation.”
>“I do not believe in any regime which is not anchored in the Volk itself. I do not believe in an economic regime. One cannot build a house from the top, one must begin at the bottom. The foundations of the State are not the Government, but rather the Volk.”
archive.org/details/RodneyMartin-TheEconomicPlanOfTheNsdap

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Natsoc was a reactionary nationalist movement in germany to counter an attempt of a socialist/communist overthrow in germany. Same as succeded in russia.

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The "people" don't decide shit anywhere, except in small groups which can hardly be called political systems, since those imply a larger amount of peeps.

Ironically the lefties do not realize how much they would agree with natsocs principles however. Because they have no clue what they were. infact if you disguised many of the statements and claimed it was a communist who said it. They would say. Fucking yeah i totally agree. That´s how bad it is.

Leftism means that people decide, not people's elected bosses or even worse non-elected bosses or even more worse lobby provided bosses to be elected by people. There's no democracy in money decisions. We can't even print our own money, we could try, but if our currency is tied to international organizations and dollar they will quickly inflate us, ruin us. We don't need banks at all, let collective store money and give out money they invented and agreed upon and the one who got the money for work being done, he can exchange that money for some other work aka food/housing. Right wing tries to tell us we need banks and bosses, because they love their gods so much, that they can't think with own heads. The correct approach is to have non-lawyer written laws which are simple to understand and forcing people to learn that in school, then everybody should vote for laws, not stupid bosses/politicians who themselves don't understand the laws they pass, since they are given laws to pass for money they get as salary, lobbying or from international organization. Do you really think some random faggot drunk who runs for mayor and gets elected will magically get knowledge about laws? He's aiming to get money and be a puppet, every politician is aiming that, they want others to do their work.

>Leftism means that people decide
Again the left tries to claim monopoly on something it doesn't have monopoly on.

Nowhere in the world, anywhere in history was there an example of a leftist country by your categorisation then, which again proves my point, since polarisation requires two sides at least. Even if you get the people to vote on everything, there will still be someone that will say what they have to vote ABOUT. And the collective that you want to store money and then redistribute it is again centralisation (bosses and politicians), much like banks.

Owners of land and housing decide things. If you own a farm with your wife, that's collective ownership. Socialism wants everything to be collective ownership at end. There's no room for international agreements between politicians and billionaires to construct supermarkets on our land in Socialism. Everything has to go through people and at end of it people don't need supermarkets, they need local shops with local produce. We got airplanes these days, if we want bananas we can fly them in, why do we need supermarkets to order that and then going though 10 different intermediary capitalistic merchants who all add price to it. Lets have a train from Germany to Slovenia, load bananas and hand them over to places to buy them. 90% of stuff in supermarkets we can produce ourselves. There's no point in brands, selling same shit with different name. Just name products by standard, describe exact ingredients voted into usage by collective. Why have McDonald's sandwich when we can create same thing here very easily? The point is in profit and them smuggling ingredients and preventing people to test that shit, so we control nothing.

There's no such thing as left and right wings, not for parties, not for countries, not for supra-national organisation. It's all a scam to have peeps pitted against eachother, while the "rights" as well as the "lefts" steal your cash.