>Be Middle Eastern Farmer >Migrate North Into Europe to Take Advantage of the empty fertile land so you can grow crops >Run into barbaric pale hunter gatherers >Kill most of them but mix with the rest >Your people slowly become whiter and whiter after adjusting to the climate for millennia and mixing with the locals >Fast Forward 8000 years >Ancient Middle Eastern Farmer DNA is an integral part of the European Genome >Your descendants: Syrian refugees are smelly shitskins and have have zero relation to Europe! Syrians immigrating to Europe will destroy European heritage and our genes!
Why do Europeans hate Middle Eastern Refugees so much if White people are just ancient Middle Eastern Farmers with white skin and light features? Isn’t Europe just an ancient extension of the Middle East then? Why Politically do Europeans see Middle Eastern as completely separate from Europeans genetically (Like they are aliens) when in reality Modern Europeans are just a series of middle eastern ethnic groups that migrated north a long time ago, mixed together, then evolved to the cold climate?
No mention of Islam? You don't think that has something to do with it?
Lincoln Sullivan
InB4 >The Pale Hunter Gatherers were pure European! Only Southern Europeans have Middle Eastern Blood!
The Pale hunter gatherers who were the first humans in Europe originated in North Africa. Probably some relation to Ancient Egyptians very likely. They become white skinned after living in Europe for a long time. So Again, Middle Eastern
So If Middle Eastern people were Christian you would consider them European or atleast welcome to come to Europe?
Jackson Flores
Have you met Christian Arabs, Turks, Syrians,etc? They are usually great! Then there are these cunts!
Lincoln Cruz
Same with Africans and middle easterns. Human "races" are a joke. If not, please tell me how many and which are the human races.
Easton Jones
I wouldn't consider them Europeans because they aren't Europeans. But I'd almost certainly have far less problems with them. Middle Eastern Christians seem to be far friendlier and have much more in common with Europeans and generally seem to fit in to our societies much more easily and cause less problems than ME Muslims.
Gabriel Roberts
>White people are just ancient Middle Eastern Farmers with white skin and light features
All of the Scientific evidence points in that direction. Almost All of the Skeletons of Ancient Europeans they have dug up from 10,000 years ago had the G2 paternal haplogroup. The G2 Haplogroup originated in Northern Iran and the Caucasus Region(Armenia, Georgia). Otzi the Iceman had this Haplogroup. Hell King George III of England had this Haplogroup.
Tyler Baker
>All of the Scientific evidence points in that direction What are you smoking?
Christopher Nguyen
daily reminder that only i1 and i2 are the only ancestral european WHITE groups, all the larping r1 steppe niggers have to go back
You need to research where the word Caucasian comes from OP. It's why people have a tenancy to call nords snow niggers
Charles Mitchell
>people who live in the ME now always lived there and look the same You desperate lefties are really grasping at straws here.
Christopher Nelson
>Skeletons of Ancient Europeans they have dug up from 10,000 years ago had the G2 paternal haplogroup. The G2 Haplogroup originated in Northern Iran and the Caucasus Region(Armenia, Georgia). >Major European Historical figures of Europe like King George III had this haplogroup >DNA extracted from ancient Europeans clearly show large amounts of Anatolian Farmer Ancestry >Original Hunter Gatherer europeans originated from egypt based on archaeological evidence and backed up by DNA Sequencing of mummies and Pharoes
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>Europeans are middle eastern people with light features?!? You're crazy! Stop smoking drugs!
Evan Long
Because Europe is indo-european. Pre-indoeuropean europe was conquered and stopped to exist.
Elijah Torres
Mideasterners back then weren't as inbred as they are today. That and the fact that they weren't fucking Bedouin rape babies
Dominic Price
just a little hint for you; a bunch of complicated stuff happened inbetween today and 8000 years ago :^)
Because Islam is a disease and it has no place in the Western world. Every country with even a small Islamic population ends up having to waste substantial tax dollars to monitor and re-educate Muslims into being human again. The belief that any perceived injustice requires a chimp out of bombings is the core problem. And that core problem has its roots in the Quran and the example of Muhammed. Islam is a disease. If Arabs and Syrians gave up Islam and stopped inbreeding we could view them like Greeks, Spanish, or Italians. But if even the whitest of white motherfuckers is Muslim. They must leave.
Colton Williams
HA YES Suck a did goolag Had me really scared though. Fellow bongs watch this before it gets shoahd. Shows how desperate they are archive.org/details/youtube-jeb09GS7ids
Without reading the details of the particular study, "similarities with the DNA of people living in today's Turkey and Iraq" could mean literally anything.
Angel Bennett
>Oh look Moyshe they've got two eyes! Tell the goyim!
Joshua Nguyen
anatolian farmers of the neolithic have nothing to do with modern middle easterners who are natufian semites.
Brody Phillips
The Study mainly focused on Haplotypes but there is also significant evidence with autosomal DNA as well.
That implies that modern Europeans and modern Turks have some of the same ancestors.
It does not though imply anything else.
Joshua Williams
And that doesn't matter
>looking a thousand years ago >a thousand years of selective pressure in the age when men were men and sheep were nervous >trying to compare the two as if it would matter a flying monkeys
You're getting on my nerves Schlomo. I'm punishing you with another video
We should have at least more intelligence then fucking bees
Sebastian Stewart
you were lucky enought to be in the perfect place to develop agriculture and spread your shitty genes all over europe the most farmer ancestry the worse work a country ,thanks there is still pure people left in the north
>The More farmer ancestry the worse work a country >Greece has one of the most farmer ancestry >What is Ancient Greece >All Modern Rights and Freedoms come from Ancient Greece
Connor Collins
>ancient Greece Indian, Mesopotamian and Egyptian civilizations predate even them, what's your point? They have warmer climate.
Cameron Edwards
they were in the perfect place to develop in that time and were turkified laetr on
It Implies that Ancient Middle Eastern DNA is an integral part of European DNA, even Northern Europeans have this ancestry. I would bring up a study but it seems another user brought it up here in his chart.
You can even upload your raw DNA to Family tree DNA and they'll break it down as best they can into three ancient groups that make up the Modern European Genome. Ancient Middle Eastern Farmer(From Turkey and Mesopotamia 8000 years ago), North African Hunter Gatherer(From North Africa 45,000 years ago) and Caucasian invader(From Gerogia, Armenia and Northern Iran 6000 years ago).
I'm 100% European yet 44% Middle Eastern Farmer(I'm not nordic however). I have a few Nordic Friends(Blonde hair, blue eyes German/Swedish ancestry) who are 25% Middle Eastern Farmer.
Nolan Lopez
is not middle eastern ancestry in western anatolian mixed with whg middle eateners has other types of ancestry that resemble nothing anatolians farmers
>I'm not nordic however yea, no shit, you are a mud.
Isaiah Fisher
Thinking modern greeks and ancient greeks are the same people
>That’s how Odysseus was coming out to meet those fair-haired girls, though he was stark naked.
>Nausicaa finished speaking. Then she called out to her fair-haired attendants:
>Then Odysseus went to sit some distance off, beside the shore, glowing with charm and beauty.
>Nausicaa gazed at him in admiration, then spoke to her fair-haired attendants, saying: “Listen to me, my white-armed followers— I have something to say. This man here
Athena >Goddess of the flashing eyes, grey-eyed goddess >bright-eyed, the grey-eyed goddess
Menelaus >fair-haired ; warrior ; red-haired ; son of Atreus; red-haired king, red-haired captain, king with flaming hair, Atreus' royal son, , lord marshal,
>On this Athena came close up to him and said, “Son of Arceisius—-best friend I have in the world—pray to the blue-eyed damsel, and to Zeus her father; then poise your spear and hurl it.”
>They painted white people so they must have been white
Just like how we have 6 foot 2 ripped black guys on billboards so the average American must be a 6 foot 2 ripped black guy right?
They could have been brown but idealized white skin since it was so RARE. There are many explanations other than they were white. Native Americans also had White gods, are you saying ancient Native Americans were white too?
DNA studies concludes that modern greeks are the descendents of ancient greece with only very minimal outside admixture. Pic related, you're free to go read the full article and study here: sciscape.org/modern-greeks-decedents-ancient-mycenaeans/
You ignore culture, but if you want to talk about genetics let’s talk about how he Middle East is a orgifest of different genetics, from Subsaharan Africa to Old Egyptian to Arab to Semtics, from Mongols to Moroccans, and from Indians to Zanzibarans.
Europe is three gentetic groups, Indoeuropean, Old European, and Ancient Semitic or Mesopotamian, both of which we don’t know what skin color they were.
Although the best argument against Syrian immigration is looking at modern day Syria, and the religion they worship.
Dominic Stewart
Ionians are the only real "greeks", dorians and pelasgians were proto slav
Luke Rivera
You're so full of shit
>Turk rapebabies
>Hurr they were even darker then that!
Carter Collins
Introduction:
The Somalids are a race on their own, although they are under-represented in political-intelectual circles. They make their presence in sports, piracy & crimes.
They were more than likely the original troublesome Sea People, the Barbary Pirates & finally the Somalian pirates of today. Somalia is their last nation free of domination by other genoms mainly because 90%+ of the nation are genetic Somalids.
In Greece the hot tempered Somalid elements within Greeks started the riots that couldn't escalate to an all out Somalid rebellion & remained the muscle of the anarchists in Greece because they are only 25% of the Greek population & live side by side with Lizards who use them for political pressure on the Europid Greeks.
There are three types of Greeks: the Europid Greek, Arabid Greek (his nose gives him up) and the Somalid Greek (his curly/fuzzy hair will tell you): PIC RELATED; Modern day Somalid mutt with short haircut to hide his Somalid curly hair
Ancient Greek=Modern day Somalid? DNA tests are the best way to go about this because mtDNA back channels have their effect also and in Greece African mtDNA is very low compared to Y-DNA, which shows that Somalid males did indeed migrate into these lands in Neolithic & possibly historic times.
Iceland - DNA Europid DNA 98% Somalid DNA 0% Arabid DNA 0% Other DNA 2% Spain DNA Europid DNA 80% Somalid DNA 7% Arabid DNA 4% Other DNA 9%
Greek - DNA (national -most recent composite-) Europid DNA 40% Somalid DNA 30% Arabid DNA 28% Other DNA 2%
E1b1b = Somalid Dad E1b1b V13 = His Greek Somalid seeds
E1b1b Somalid cluster mainly a majority prevailing gene in the southern Part of Peloponnesse (47% all over Peloponesse) & 25% all Greece, there is another E1b1b cluster along the coast line this group must have been isolated & pushed into Albania or maybe E1b1b was already settled in the coasts & was split by the European tribes crossing into Southern Greece I can only imagine what happenned to the Somalids on these coasts.
Comparing DNA results of Somalis, Greeks, Yemenis and Turks. We can observe the high amount of Somalid DNA among Greek folks even after century long mixing with white people and even higher than among Yemeni sand people; pic related
Polemon, Physiognomonica, 8.11 >"hê de xanthê kai hupoleukos, hopoia Skuthôn, skaiotêta dêloi êgoun kakotêta kai agriotêta" >Blond and whitish hair, like that of Scythians, signifies stupidity, evilness, and savageness
Aritotles et Corpus Aristotelicum, Physiognomonica, 812a, 13 >"Hoi agan melanes deiloi: anapheretai epi tous Aiguptious, Aithiopas. hoi de leukoi agan deiloi: anapheretai epi tas gunaikas" >Very dark men are cowards: it is said of Egyptians and Ethiopians. White men are cowards: it is said of women.
Adamantius on greeks >They are darker-haired, their eyes are not said to be blue-gray, their flesh is firm (thin skin which wrinkles finely is typical of northern Europe), they are tall, but not very tall, andthey are also broader, with medium-sized heads, slightly curly not straight hair, etc. It is thus certain,that the Greek race described by Adamantius is not that of northerners (Scythians, Celts) who as we know are themselves only partly of Nordic race. sciencemag.org/news/2017/08/greeks-really-do-have-near-mythical-origins-ancient-dna-reveals Whoopsie. Genetic tests, written data AND visual data. What will the ARYUN ANAKZ lie about, now?
>Why do Europeans hate Middle Eastern Refugees so much same reason every other race hates niggers
Luke Murphy
>Adamantius >Little is known of his personal history, except that he was Jewish by birth >fled from Alexandria at the time of the expulsion of the Jews from that city by the Patriarch Cyril of Alexandria in 415
>Trusting the word of someone 415AD about ancient Greeks >Trusting a Jew to give you the real deal
They basically call everything that is not black/dark brown "blond" Paul of Aleppo described Muscovites in XVII century as having "white hair" so that's how they refer to actual blond
Jace Thomas
Here we show that Minoans and Mycenaeans were genetically similar, having at least three-quarters of their ancestry from the first Neolithic farmers of western Anatolia and the Aegean1,2, and most of the remainder from ancient populations related to those of the Caucasus3 and Iran4,5. However, the Mycenaeans differed from Minoans in deriving additional ancestry from an ultimate source related to the hunter–gatherers of eastern Europe and Siberia6,7,8, introduced via a proximal source related to the inhabitants of either the Eurasian steppe1,6,9 or Armenia4,9. Modern Greeks resemble the Mycenaeans, but with some additional dilution of the Early Neolithic ancestry. nature.com/articles/nature23310
So you just skip out the Minoans. Not genetically similar because if a quarter of your ancestors are not racially shared with someone thats a big fucking difference
Christopher Hernandez
Blonde hair most certainly must have originated from Iran or atleast that must have been one of the origins. Otherwise pure blooded Iranian Persians like Mohammad Ali Ramin could not exist.
>muh jews have been lying since 400 AD to shed bad light on us GREEK ARYUN BLUND KANGZ Afrocentric-tier delusions and arguments. Next time you'll be claiming the Aryan Hellenics used to fly in the Parthenon with the power of their blonde hair.
>400 AD and ancient greeks And which completely undocumented "great change" had taken place, in your mind?
Regardless, there's still the two other quotes you have avoided facing. the genetic tests. Ancient visual data. the fact they have no original turkic admixture evn nowadays.
Another quote then
Xenophon, Hellenica, 3. 4. 19 (350 BC): >‘‘Agesilaus(king of Sparta) gave orders to his heralds that the barbarians who were captured by the Greek raiding parties should be exposed for sale naked. Thus the soldiers, seeing that these men were white-skinned because they never were without their clothing, and soft and unused to toil because they always rode in carriages, came to the conclusion that the war would be in no way different from having to fight with women.’’
Scythians lived mainly in the lower russia/ukraine region
So are they largely the same or not? Because all results point towards them very clearly being, with the neolithic middle eastern acnestry being, if anything, slightly diluted by invasions from Europe
>your one Jew >Multiple accounts of blue eyes but hey they just lied to us That Sparta quote - because suntans aren't a thing. Cretin.
>Now analysis of the skeleton discovered in an underground vault has revealed that the person who was buried there was male and was probably an important general.
>He was of medium height with pale skin and brown or red hair, they said, suggesting that the remains could could well belong to blue-eyed king.
>Alexander the Great was reputed to have had blue eyes and golden or red hair.
>Further examination of the remains are expected to confirm that the man originated in the Thrace region in north east Greece, according to The Greek Reporter.
>The Mycenaeans did have an important difference: They had some DNA—4% to 16%—from northern ancestors who came from Eastern Europe or Siberia. This suggests that a second wave of people from the Eurasian steppe came to mainland Greece by way of Eastern Europe or Armenia, but didn’t reach Crete
>4% to 16% In DNA terms thats a fucking lot. Oh but lets confine ourselves to the south in Crete because its convenient
Luis Morris
Because this is factually semi correct and the aspects of it that are correct only applies to small segement of the population of southern european nations.
It also ignore current social and cultural differences as well a racial and ethnic changes that have occurred between those that stayed in the middle east and are only now coming over.
Seriously you made the case yourself. You are arguing that the population of middle eastern people went north branched off and adapted differently than those that stayed and "became white". By your own admission the people coming now are descendent from people who originally stayed and thus did not experience the same level of racial mixing and are significantly different.
This is to say nothing of your false insinuation that modern europeans are just middle eastern half mixes....
Ian Edwards
Why can't I raise a few wolves along with my golden retrievers, I mean 100,000 years ago they shared a common ancestor so they're like totally the same.
Jack Cox
I wasted my time I should have kept it simple with the greentext
>Dude we all came out of Africa >One race - the human race!
>only applies to small segement of the population of southern european nations. False, all Europeans(Northern and Scandinavians included) have Middle Eastern Farmer DNA according to studies. The proportion of Middle Eastern Farmer DNA to European Hunter Gatherer DNA of course varies by region, but ALL europeans have significant amounts of Ancient Middle Eastern Ancestry (20+% even in Northern Europeans)
>It also ignore current social and cultural differences Fair enough, but the whole point of bringing it up was the hypocrisy of people calling middle easterners dirty as if they have a sort of alien DNA completely separate from European's ancestors. When in reality nothing could be further from the truth
>This is to say nothing of your false insinuation that modern europeans are just middle eastern half mixes. They are, but Ancient Middle Eastern half mixes, not modern
Nathan Johnson
>Multiple accounts of blue eyes but hey they just lied to us Cherrypicking 1 over 100 description/findings/depictions etc. just to show this single guy was lighter than average is not an accurate representation of the general population. It's what your Afrocentric brothers do when they want to claim the HRE was BLAK KANGZ on the basis of a single portrait. I am happy you have learned well.
As i said, various Greek authors refer to blonde hair as traits typical of beast-like, dimwitted people and of fair skin as a girly trait indicating cowardly. So either greeks were massive self-loathers (kinda like modern northern euros, so maybe you have a point here) or DEY WUZ NOT MAJORITY NORDICK KANGZ and hence described those traits as stranger and exotic (as we know they did, for example read the descriptions of Thracians e.g. "Men make gods in their own image; those of the Ethiopians are black and snub-nosed, those of the Thracians have blue eyes and red hair") One of the most common names for slaves in greek comedy was "xanthias" (blondie) for fuck's sake
>Alexander the Great Pictured here
>from northern ancestors who came from Eastern Europe or Siberia. This suggests that a second wave of people from the Eurasian steppe came to mainland Greece by way of Eastern Europe or Armenia, but didn’t reach Crete Hence the major contribution (4 to 16%, still not enough to claim they were completely eradicated) was from EUROPE lol
I beg to differ. Pic related is an Ossetian Politician. If we are just cherrypicking the darkest person in an ethnic group then all of southern Europe and South Central Europe(Hungary etc.) "were never white"
>That Sparta quote - because suntans aren't a thing. Cretin. lol what about the two other quotes that you are STILL refusing to face? Scared that the truth doesn't suit NORDICK KANGZ's delusions, maybe?
>ALL europeans have significant amounts of Ancient Middle Eastern Ancestry I also have five fingers
>One race! The primate race!
>but the whole point of bringing it up was the hypocrisy of people calling middle easterners dirty as if they have a sort of alien DNA completely separate from European's ancestors
Listen shitheel. When you've lived through enough winters it does something about killing off the retards in the group. Jesus wept read fucking Darwin.
>You have a common ancestor. This means you can't discriminate and you're literally the same as the primitives your ancestors didn't want to be around
>as if they have a sort of alien DNA completely separate from European's ancestors. When in reality nothing could be further from the truth
Because fuck me evolution isn't a thing after all. Lets just save some time, just gas the red squirrels and save ourselves some time because hey bucko we found ourself an ancestor.
I never implied that they were nordic. You seemed to imply they were nothing but Syrians.
>The Mycenaeans did have an important difference: They had some DNA—4% to 16%—from northern ancestors who came from Eastern Europe or Siberia. This suggests that a second wave of people from the Eurasian steppe came to mainland Greece by way of Eastern Europe or Armenia, but didn’t reach Crete
But this is all beside the point. You're a slimey Marxist shill that won't recognize sub species
Gavin Scott
Why isn’t elizabeth Warren invited to join the Cherokee nation?
Sebastian King
>it does something about killing off the retards in the group a pity it didn't work with delusional lunatics and turbocucks
Do not backpeddle limey, since your first post regarding ancient greeks' complexion you went around using cherrypicked quotes to sustain dem ancient greekz wuz blond anakz n bazileuz n shieet, this despite the majority of ancient depictions and written data fromt he greeks themselves and their contemporaries explicitely saying otherwise.
>a second wave of people from the Eurasian steppe So the only major invasion that left some sort of a genetic mark (and, even here, we are not admittedly talking an enormous alteration) was from Europe and not in the Ottoman era as you claimed. If anything, it likely made greeks somewhat lighter.
>slimey marxist shill >Why won't you let me steal somebody's history? You must be a marxist kike Pic related litterally you
>Your descendants: Syrian refugees are smelly shitskins and have have zero relation to Europe! Syrians immigrating to Europe will destroy European heritage and our genes!
WE WUZ EUROPEANS : THE THREAD
You're the one trying to force different paints into the same paintpot. All I needed to win the argument was to prove #NotAllGreeks
gg no re
Blake Martinez
Syrians are better and have a far more ancient history than Pale Skinned barbarians.
Chase Johnson
You're not understanding, Europeans literally ARE Ancient Syrian farmers. Or atleast, they are 20-30% Ancient Syrian Farmer Genetically.
Jaxson Wilson
Thats nice. They should stay and enjoy it.
Are we agreed that importing Somalis isn't exactly the smart play here?
>theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?192905-Greeks-are-Russians&styleid=79 Idiot This is not Slavic, idiot This is due to Dorian admixture that came to Greece in 1500 BC A lot of the people that you posted are Cretans, Slavs never reached the Mediterranean islands The Serb here is right, we might call them PROTO-Slavic but they were far from modern Eastern Europeans either
Parker Hall
Only the Irish actually, the others are related to Iranians and Anatolians
Nolan Ramirez
>Syrians are better and have a far more ancient history than Pale Skinned barbarians
I'll say this again for you retard, neither Western Hunter Gatherers were, nor modern version of y'all are pale. cause you sandniggers actually mixed with Afroasiatics 4-5k ago, when the proto-semtics and later Akkadians came into the Levant and Sumer. you are a mutt of those ethiopian like niggers and pale farmers that were very much like modern Caucasians
Liam Edwards
Lmao and most of the blonde Greeks on this apricity thread look zero Eastern European They are depigmented Norid, Alpine or even Atlantid people, Greece has as close as zero Baltid or Gorid phenotypes Coon himself stated that Greece has even more proper sub-nordid people (5 % respectively) than proper Eastern Europid types
Nathan Davis
>teehee i sure showed him with my unexpected retreat, it's not like he proved me wrong, r-r-right guys?
>You went on claiming that ancient Greeks were lighter and blonder than modern Greeks on the basis of a few cherrypicked descriptions (which i could do even nowadays by finding a few blondies in modern Greece) >I proved you ancient Greeks described and depicted themselves as neither pale nor blonde and considered these traits foreign and exotic. >You then admitted the only major foreign invasion Greece ever suffered in the past millenia that could alter its abitants' DNA had a fairly limited effect and from Europe, making them lighter if anything. Admit you came out of this looking like an unread idiot and we can end it here and now.
Joseph Miller
I'm a Turk not Arab, I am Central Asian
William Cooper
LMAO imagine an idiot posting literally native Sfakians (Western Cretans) as Slavic influenced They are Atlantid influenced Nordo-Meds but this Russian calls them slavicized I'm freaking dying over here HAHAHAH
Carson Young
>they are 20-30% Ancient Syrian Farmer Genetically.
Considering that there is on average 0.5% difference between people genetically I'd say you're not saying much.
0.5% of human DNA = 15 000 000 base pairs Lets take that assumption. Lets say that I was literally 30% literally Syrian (although I'm not)
That leaves oh lets say 70%
That on its own would be 2 billion 100 million base pairs. Just one will fuck you up.
In reality the average humans get ALL their differences from around 0.5% of their DNA.
Now tell me again OP. Why should I not want a greater share of the little diversity we have in the world. Would you ban red squirrel sanctuaries as well?
I don't even know why Euros are so butthurt about it, Arabs genes are even more recessive than White, everytime Whites mix with Arabs the child ends up being White, especially if the said Arab is Syrian, the palest of them all...
If I was Whitey I would be much more worried about Somalis, Nafris and Indians
Hunter Myers
Jokes on you GedMatch confirmed i got mainly hunter gatherer DNA. Farmercucks GTFO!
Robert Morales
Middle easterners today have east african annd indian admixture. They're not the same people and they're not white anymore and its islams fault. The first place islam spread to from the gulf was east africa and they started racemixing heavily with the slaves that were already there. Pic related is the heavily inbred decent of Muhammad. He's not racemixed on purpose cause his lineage was always cousin fucking cousin
Are you From Turkey or a Central Asian country? Turkish people only have a minority of their genetics from actual asian turks(20-25%). The vast majority of Turkish Ancestry may actually be South Asian(India, Pakistan) believe it or not. Pic related.
