Gun rights in the USA, can we have a conversation about this? The second amendment is losing ground everywhere, what can a firearms enthusiast do to protect their rights?
Gun rights in the USA, can we have a conversation about this? The second amendment is losing ground everywhere...
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Buy as many cheap ARs and ammo as possible, try and get as many people into guns as possible, and vote straight republican. Don’t fall for the libertarian meme, it just gives gun grabbing democrats more power.
Dont be ashamed to talk about guns. Dont be a dick about it. Be the bigger person and let fools try to speak thier point, be calm in your dismantling but dont be pretentious. Know what you stand for. Lightsabers are a more elegant weapon. Leave the turbo-tism at home. Find your peers and grow the community.
Read up on arguments and he ready to debate people. I've found that after you get them to admit that they want to ban ALL firearms the conversation slides to your side a little easier, if they just want to ban "scary black rifles," then teach them how its functionally a longer slightly faster pistol.
Gun rights are expanding in non libshit states.
Look at carry rights in the past 50 years. Shit is growing.
Meanwhile, public opinion, while temporarily dipping after the increasingly rare shootings, is growing in favor of personal firearm ownership. Don't forget, the 20th century had people thinking of guns as a "hunting" thing, while defence was a distant second. Now, that's switched.
And the number of owners has skyrocketed. NICS data says ~40% of the population, but with gifts, personal purchases, passed down guns, my guess is closer to 55%-60% of the population owning a firearm.
Leftists are making a political stand on it,and it increasingly is unpopular. Don't forget, they used to be the same about gay marriage... popularity polls changed that REAL fast.
Remember, in conversation, use emotion. Mention how a woman should be allowed to defend herself from rape, and gun control tries to remove that right. How the elderly use firearms to prevent being victims. Why don't you want women and elderly people to be safe?
Of course, this isn't "sky is falling!" Bullshit, so no one will care.
But how does that explain gun control advocates getting into office in some states.
you want to know my honest opinion? I would take all the guns from everyone but myself
>The second amendment is losing ground everywhere
>I failed civics in high school and have no idea how a constitutional amendment happens
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>The second amendment is losing ground everywhere,
No, its not.
I doubt any of them run on a pure platform of gun control, there will be social and economic policies them dems agree with, or simply a red vs blue choice with no alternative candidates.
Libshit states are libshit. And like said, shits never pure platform.
I'm talking about the mindset of the general public, laws that have effectively restricted the civil right that the amendment protects and the increase in politicians running for office with the goal of removing the amendment.
Yes, it is. You idiots keep posting that like concealed carry permits are the only measure of gun rights. Right now it's all about feature and magazine bans, restrictions on semi-auto rifles, age of purchase increases, and red flag laws, and those are spreading like a disease. If people don't get serious about reversing this political trend, you can bet they'll start rolling back those concealed carry reforms eventually too.
Washington, vermont, and florida called. Theres also a city in Montana that just recently banned open carry in public places. Eat shit and pay attention to the news you dumb nigger fuck
|truth| -- dont need digits to confirm this right here
> ruling made in July 2018.
Does anyone actually open carry in CA now? Would they still be arrested and charged for doing so?
Is this ruling effectively useless?
People can still get guns in England. Go black market when the time comes, friends.
There needs to be an outreach drive from apolitical people into promoting gun ownership
Stuff like : youtu.be
Do a lot more for gun rights as a movement than throwing $1,000,000 at the NRA so they can circlejerk on NRA-TV for another month
Even if the next generation of millennials is just a bunch of fudds, a fudd is still better than a nogunz when it comes to standing up for rights
Don't comply to scary salt weapon laws and educate your friends
I’m a life member of the NRA and GOA and personally feel the 2A’s days are numbered. When Blacks, Latinos and Asians outnumber whites there will be a constitutional referendum upon repealing 2A. Our great grand children will live in shit and piss filled streets awaiting their annual rations for the week working wage slave jobs in mega cities. People like us will exist far innawoods from these mega cities. My outlook on the future just isn’t very optimistic anymore. Maybe when we go to war with China will America’s culture revert back to what it was post WW2. I can only hope.
Pic unrelated. M16 clone on the left was my first gun. HBAR
The more I think about it the more the war with China needs to happen.
Easy, be ambassadors, bring in more legal gun ownership. And I mean shit like ARs and other "scary assault weapons".
None of that "guns for me and not for thee" crap. Bring them to the range, be active in your community and show that 2A and being a red hot Republican is universal and not racial, like what Jow Forums bitches like to believe.
I agree with this.
>HBAR
>M16 clone
I'm sorry user but it's not exactly a clone. It has a heavy barrel which is shit, and no bayonet lug.
Bayonets are useless anyway. Has anyone in the modern day ever even used a bayonet to kill someone?
Yes. Every weekend I go to my local senior center.
It's too late for that.
Enjoy your funs.
Gg no re
Gave me a chuckle. Have a (you) on the house.
True. I do plan to purchase an Aero precision A4 soon. I love Heavy Barrels. Used to be an M240B gunner and ammo bitch so weight doesn’t matter to me.
Because thats just how the pendulum of bipartisan politics work in the US. The president's party almost always loses seats during the midterm. Remember when the Democrats got raped during the 2012 midterms and Republicans won something like 85%of downballot races?
We have no need for a black market. We just need to refuse to disarm
As much as what I’m saying sounds like a fedpost, it’s unironucally true. Refuse to disarm, refuse to comply, shoot the cops who try to force you into complying. With enough martyrs and dead cops they’ll either stop, or go full force which will put everyone else in a fight or flight scenario.
>and vote straight republican. Don’t fall for the libertarian meme
T. donald "take the guns first" trump.
Like everyone else said the best thing you can do is take a noguns shooting. I'm seriously considering becoming an FFL/SOT so I can help popularize NFA items.
Get with the right side of history buddy.
Tell Richard Ramirez politely to leave.
Checked.
It's not losing ground IMO, just get VERY polarized.
>what can a firearms enthusiast do to protect their rights?
- Educate people on firearms and safe handling
- Take those people shooting so that they learn how to use them and have fun
- Don't bring up retarded pol-tier shit like deep state memes
- Be especially friendly and respectful to women, minorities, and LGBT+ people so that firearms stop being a Republican thing. Fortunately, more of these types of people have been taking up firearms training because they're scared of Trump.
Dumbass.
>Bend over backwards for these people who want you and your children dead.
Yeah, okay.
@39764614
no (You) 4 u
>Bend over backwards for these people
These are not difficult things to do.
>who want you and your children dead
Nice meme
>Don't bring up retarded pol-tier shit
Can you fucking read you turbo nigger?
By infringing on peoples 1st with your 2nd.
You step I step back.
The elections are probably rigged
>Gun rights in the USA, can we have a conversation about this?
Yes, because the shitty mods literally don't enforce their own rules
You act like what he said isn’t true
>goyim
POL GET OUT
You can't. You fags wanted to be inclusive and pretend that 80 IQ parasites could support individual rights over gibs. You were unwilling to recognize simple voting patterns and simple geopolitical patterns. You were willing to fuck over the 2A and 1A, ignore the FF every view except for SHALL and deserve every little bit of what's coming.
Jow Forums has the only real answer for keeping gun rights, and other rights, alive in this country. You're naive if you think otherwise at this point.
Pic related
This
So this is what it's like to be delusional.
Tell me how "muh BASED nigger in a maga hat" is working out for you bud? You think PoC are randomly gonna stop voting en masse for the left? Why would they do that? THINK you retard
I'd rather have machineguns
Yes, it is precisely what you are experiencing right now.
At last people are realizing the truth.
Retard, asians have a genetic slave morality
Niggers cant be trusted with guns
And fags literally only exist to fuck up civilization
If you care about guns become a white nationalist.
can't wait for your hive of psy ops shit to be sectioned off from sane boards and antisemitism to be a b&, samefag
Not the samefag retard. And I'm getting a VPN specifically to subvert 4channel.
Go ahead and try to tell us how we're wrong though, tell me how the non whites are gonna wake up one day and vote for American values, even though they vote 70%+ for the other side as of today
>basic voting patterns which are almost 100% blue
>"y-you're delusional"
Ok bud. Good luck.
honestly be a gun owner that actually represents a normal human being
sperging out over molon labe and acting like an edgelord in real life only fuels the perspective that we're fucking nutcases that shouldn't be listened to
JIDF pls go, people see through your lies and are waking up.
>authoritarianism: the only way to keep your liberties!
>it is anti-semitic to say that the jews are extremely successful and are disproportionately represented in government, education and media
i don't even
>keeping rights alive in this country
>by stripping other people of their rights based on race, gender, and creed
Holy mother of no self-awareness Batman!
Unironically this, if you define "authoritarianism" as using force to remove the elements from your society that threaten your liberty
>keeping rights alive in this country
>by pretending to care and doing nothing about the low IQ brown hordes taking them away
Hmm something smells fishy here...HEY RABBI WATCHA DOIN
Don't you have a "You guys would support taking guns away from gays, right? :^)" thread to make you disingenuous shitskin?
no
>all these falseflagging democrats
Nice try retards, but I can see through your tricks
I don't support taking guns away from anyone, nor am I a shitskin. That's a weird caricature you have in your head
>You think PoC are randomly gonna stop voting en masse for the left?
No, you retard. That shit takes time, organization, and effort, something the Right seems adverse to actually do. Unsolicited political activism, the "do you have a minute to talk about politics" kind of thing you see in public spaces is expected to see maybe 1 or 2 people out of every 100 seek out further information. That's not even getting people to join your side, that's just getting them to take a closer look. The simple fact of the matter is that most of the Right isn't putting in the ground work while the Left has been doing it for 60 years straight.
>Keeping others from destroying your civilization is authoritarianism!
Get a fucking clue.
The simple fact of the matter is that low IQ people vote how they do for low IQ reasons. That's what the left has been giving the poopskins for a long time now
Gun rights are fine. They aren't in the focus of dems because they have no hope of getting anything without a majority or a president in office.
It only is getting cucked in states that are overwhelmingly chucked anyways. Like Cali or New York... Because one city can run an entire state.
But yeah. Even in states where there were huge movements after shootings. Florida, Nevada... Etc. They haven't done much. I thonk Nevada might have tried for something against bump fires. And Florida raised the age limit on purchases.
Just because the liberals scream the loudest doesn't mean they have the full support of the people.
>political activism is like too hard and shit
explain the popularity for voting red in shitholes like the appalachians
You can't reason with demoralized people user. Yuri Bezmenov has a lot to teach you.
There are low IQ reasons to vote for the left and the right.
Only the right has actual high IQ reasons. Not 100-120 IQ, actual high IQ. 100-120 is the sweet spot where you're smart enough to concoct justifications for what you WANT to be true. Higher than that and you get more and more right wing
I'm not disclosing any personal info, screw you ATF. But anyway, stop following laws you don't like.
I have a sbs double barrel, no tax stamp.
Im non-violent, don't go waving it around, and have a use for it.
(I use it to protect my livestock from snake, because a point and shoot 20gauge is perfect for slotting slithery niggers.)
>And I'm getting a VPN specifically to subvert 4channel.
Why ruin other peoples things? If you want to chat with antifa-tards, go chat with antifa-tards. Stop trying to ruin every right-ish community with your false flagging "hurr durr teh goyim" bullshit
>appalachians
>low IQ
4channel is going to be the "ad friendly" Jow Forums. That's going to be the place where posting the word nigger gets you banned. I'm subverting them IE making it not ad-friendly
>violates NFA for a fucking twenty gauge
>has job where shooting is necessary
>chooses based on desire to AVOID developing skill or proficiency with firearms
You disgust me.
I guess you didn't see my question, so I'll repeat it for you. Why ruin other peoples things? If you want to chat with antifa-tards, go chat with antifa-tards. Stop trying to ruin every right-ish community with your false flagging "hurr durr teh goyim" bullshit
Vote correctly
Dont be a sperg/SHALL NOT fag about firearms, that turns indifferent people into anti-gunners
Portray your hobby in an interesting, but neutral manner, like a car enthusiast or someone who builds their own computer
Offer to take people shooting, dont be obnoxious if they turn you down.
If they do accept, start them off with something simple, dont give them the handcannon with +p+ loads
Arguing against people who have girmly made up their minds is pointless. Aim to win over people who arent one either side yet.
I don't even know what you're saying retard. Type clearly. The creation of 4channel is ruining Jow Forums, so i'm going to help ruin it
>girmly
*firmly
Forgive me Jow Forumsube for i have made the sin of phoneposting
The demoralized and lazy are the worst thing for gun rights, they'll do nothing but complain or actively impede efforts to promote gun rights then bitch at the people actually trying to fight for them for not giving up.
They're not in focus nationally. Most gun control efforts have switched to the states as they can more effectively focus efforts and most gun rights efforts are nationally focused.
VPN's do not stop cookies nor IP locations via things like Captcha.
>Don't defend your rights and the valid reason for whence you defend them
Gun owning is not a hobby, it is a civil duty.
It must be done to keep the rights for the only ethnic group responsible for creating these rights in the first place. Especially when faced with the fact that people from outside this group wish to erode the rights which are being promoted. Look at every lefty talking point
>I support the second amendment but common sense gun reform should be enacted and people don't need assault weapons, those are made for killing people
which sounds just like
>I support the first amendment, but hate speech shouldn't be free speech. People need to start using inclusive language and we need stronger protection for marginalized people
It's the same for every damn cause. First they pretend to care about the traditional american value, but then say they want to change or remove that value. Then we come to the completely stupid cognitive dissonance tier bullshit like
>As an environmentalist we should have fewer children due to the high impact human life is having upon the environment. But we need to bring in more people from other countries to make up for the labor shortage, but we need a $15/hr min wage because there isn't enough demand for labor for the market to sustain $15/hr for everyone, but student loans need to be forgiven because I can't get a job making enough to pay back the degree I got, also none of these things are related to each other, at all.
Demoralized doesn't mean "lacks motivation" retard
I'll disagree with you on that point, often times you can find a place to put a wedge in their beliefs. You probably will never get a full convert, but you can roll them back from full opposition.
For example, I've got a friend in LA who I will never realistically get to full SHALL NOT but I've gotten to consider the value of a shotgun or handgun for home/personal defense. He's got a new kid to worry about and homeless people have started camping out three blocks down. His concerns and priorities have shifted and that means he's open to considering things he hadn't before.
>I cant read the english good, you retard
the absolute state of antifa retards pretending to be antisemite retards
>Only the right has actual high IQ reasons.
Yes only Einstein himself could understand the complexity of "muh taxes, muh niggers"
generally high-iq places aren't trailer parks full of methheads
This is what schizophrenia looks like. Tell me user, do you really believe that the ONLY way someone would think Jews are a bad influence is because they're false flagging? It couldn't ever possibly be due to research and observation right?
Argue in good faith or not at all. You know very well that I said both sides have low IQ reasons, but the right ALSO has high IQ reasons.
Second part of this was meant for
>Argue in good faith or not at all.
I suppose "fail to argue at all" is also an option if your 'tism is flaring up
Youve got a point, but i would call your friend part of that middle group. I was refering more to the people advocating going door-to-door confiscating firearms.
>civil duty
Im right there with you, but id wager most of the population doesnt see it that way