What the hell happened to pol?

And no, I don’t mean Jow Forums in general, I mean 4/pol/ specifically. In 2015 when I first started browsing, actual discussion seemed to be in much greater abundance. Even if you were a newfag or a clear shill you would get a debate and actual responses. I don’t know what exactly it was, but once Trump got elected it changed. People with uncommon opinions are just regarded as shills and (((others))). There are no pol meetups, raids, or anything like it anymore. The nonwhites that are on here never even get a discussion the moment it’s revealed. I don’t like nonwhites in general either but for fucks sake I still argue with them.

I have a few theories but I’m not sure if they’re the full reason. For one, the mass migration of t_dfags didn’t help, as they have formed nu/pol/ and disregard other opinions the most. There are some shills on here but they’re not as big as people think. Jannies delete /sig/ threads and more and so we can’t really talk about other stuff either. But in 2018 it’s gotten the worst at any point in time.

>inb4 slide thread
Literally no happenings right now

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Guess Jow Forums just got popular and every edgy underage feels like its his obligation to come here and shitpost some nonsense about the Jews and Trump. I do run into discussions from time to time, but for the most part its endless shitposting.

constant shilling made people tired so they don't care about replying 6th gorillion time for the same question
>why do you hate jews Jow Forums? they are white like (((us))).
expect to hear, fuck off jew, instead, and maybe you'll see some redpill with it if your're lucky

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Also, modern Jow Forums just doesn't want a proper discussion, doesn't want to actually find a way to solve this problem or another. Ultimately its just shitposting to kill time and have some cheap fun.

I'm glad I'm not the only person that feels this way
I think a lot of us are getting lazy or left this place

twitter is better

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Oh also, I’m thinking about moving to 8/pol/ instead. Is it better there or the same situation?

about 30-40% of the threads here are paid bots or shills, and a good amount of posts too.

asking same questions over and over again, ignoring any replies except for shitpost and pretending there are no shills raiding this place and you are honestly curious, but won't miss occasion to tell us that we don't know what are we talking about without argumentation is not helping you shill

What's 8/pol/?

The smart people realized that networking and collaborating irl is the only thing that matters.

>pol?
kys shill

Jow Forums was dead in 2015, you were just a newfag.
Now that you have been here a while you know how other oldfags feel.

>In 2015 when I first started browsing
Consider yourself part of the problem faggot.

I post less because I have finally lost all hope that the West is salvageable.

Now, I am just preparing to ride the tiger. Losing all hope is strangely liberating.

You can not post a news article to start a thread which was the norm on this board for years.

All you see here is knee-jerk pavlovian responses to twitter screencaps. I'm not saying it's the zoomers(but it's the zoomers)

Nothing. It's a meme to trick newfags into wasting their time looking for it. Search for it on Google, it doesn't exist.

When I try to engage in a discussion I usually get called a shill just because my opinion deviates from the commonly accepted one. Even if I elaborate, its still goes the same way almost every time.

>t. Jew
Kys kike kek epic

Pretty much this. The board is dominated by shills, teenagers, and I would even go as far as to say "paid" shills as well. Not to mention the leftists that come and "1 Post by This ID" some idiotic topic that's sure to get 300 replies by idiots who can't see what it is.

I'd say greater than 90% of the board hasn't been here any longer than maybe 2016. The media exposure brought in a ton of newfags….. well.... no they don't even deserve the title of newfag… brought in a ton of normies who have zero concept of the Jow Forums culture, nor do they care.

the kushner shills tore this place a new asshole

>I do run into discussions from time to time, but for the most part its endless shitposting.
It has gone downhill in the last 2-3 years. There is lots of shills and bullshit posters just looking for piss in the ocean of piss. I think Jow Forums is an incidental loss in the great meme war.

Once a website gets popular enough that also challenges normies in some way it gets shilled to death by (((them))). Youtube would shut down any and all content that isn't PC if it wasnt for the backlash but as the internet gets more sanitized and locked down we no longer will be living in the wild west of the internet. Jow Forums is like this dark corner of the internet where anybody can come in and remember what it feels like to be alive on the interwebs. You can't even say niggerfaggot anywhere else without getting ban hammered in some way which is why people need to wake up before every aspect of our lives is monitered and controlled by (((big business))) faggots that hate fun

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As of the 10th, Jow Forums turned 7 years old. It's getting old bro

>In 2015 when I first started browsing, actual discussion seemed to be in much greater abundance.
Nigger, I was here in 2015. Here's how I remember the catalog:
>How can white men even compete? (some things never change)
>Clickbait articles from Salon/Jezebel/Cracked/wherever posted with unarchived links, for anons to rage over and hate-jerk about
>Is X beta/autist/fedora? (before redpilled/based/Chad and their antonyms bluepilled/s.o.y/cucked were part of normal vernacular, determining whether a subject was beta/autist/fedora was our primary driver of discussing random off-topic shit.)
>that one fucking comic, of a Dane asking why Americans don't have free college, posted over and over and over and over and over again.
>threads raging at stormfags
>random reddit drama, usually originating with SRS
>posts gloating about how some shit Obama did was wildly popular and predicting that a Republican would never be elected again
>atheist hate threads, christian hate threads
>gun control posts would spike following whatever mass-shooting had most recently made the news
>a lot of tedious bullshit...
>oh, for this one stretch, you kept seeing threads about how birth control made women prefer skinny effete men, and how burley muscular men had no sexual market value anymore and never would

Take off the rose-tinted glasses, Jow Forums was never good.

nothing happened you happeningfag. it's just a drought. mutts got frustrated their emperor turned out a burned chipotle and jews are shitposting as ever. keep lurking or come back in a few if the daily postings are not up your ante

This place is filled with the devils minions. Gang stalking is real.

>the leftists that come and "1 Post by This ID"
This probably amazes me the most. In most cases its some utter nonsense, which is clearly bait, but these threads still end up getting 300 replies with the same opinions recycled every damn time.

>it's another "[board] is shit since I've come here" episode

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Don't forget endless religious debate which still happens from time to time.

This. Image spamming opinion piece articles surely defeats my point about Trump being Zionist Controlled Opposition.

8/pol/ is dead. very little activity from what I've seen. plus it's a bInger honey pot than even here is... some things you just can't bleach from your memory.

you think the community here's bad or toxic?

imagine walking into a full blown pizza party. it's not uncommon over there. I noped the fuck out.

>opinion presented wanting discussion
“SHILL KIKE GO BACK TO REDIT”
>posters turn into baitposters and shitposters
“Guys... what happened to all the discussion, this place used to be so intelectually honest..”
You caused this

comfy on my end famalam

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You're clearly a kike (((shill))) and against gassing all the jews shlomo

Yes. I get waiting a few posts in to see if the OP is actually there, but after say... 5 or 6 posts? If OP hasn't replied... they're already gone making their next slide thread.

You gotta understand though. I'd bet money that almost all of those 300 replies are people so new they don't even remember the Safety Squad (and that wasn't that long ago).

Both US political parties realized that meme magic is real.
Now their shills come here 24/7.
Then multiply it by shitposters who just want to get a response.
And here we are.

you have a good memory. bringing back the nostalgia. still preferable to all the Trump dick sucking that goes on nowadays. also remember all the drama over hirishomoot taking over and Moot abandoning ship.

The "DAE think Jow Forums is shit nowadays?" threads were around back then too. atleast now they're justifiable.

It hasn’t felt the same way in awhile though I’m not an oldfag. Soon as CFR started talking about this place, it seems like it hasn’t been the same. The future feels like it will be like THX1138.

This, and sometimes even middle-aged working class losers do that too.

Most of the fun people only show up when there's about to be an election

>Type out lengthy, well sourced, properly formatted reply.

"REDDIT SPACING!!! TLDR NEWFAG KEK KEK!!"

This board has gone to shit since orange man got elected. people got a shitload of false hope they got excited about political shit formed cults of personality but it couldn't last nothing changed and things got worse in many respects o now it's sliding back into the sweet abyss of no hope and the black pill

You make me sick

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>newfag thinks Jow Forums was good in 2015
this board turned to shit back in late 2013 early 2014

There are so many goddamn off topic threads on this board. not just shitposts, but threads like "what does Jow Forums think about Nebraska? Is it our state?". Those threads belong on Jow Forums fofr fucks sake

well shit like this happens when you have simply retarded opinions or are full of shit

/pol has been under constant attack since the election. divide and conquer
their own hope to reduce the influence
it is what happens when 10's of thousands of random cunts over the world dab in a little meme magic.

>What the hell happened to pol?
Since the russkies moved on Dumbf, they flooded the site with their bots, trolls and the entrained MAGApaedoes.. On top of that, the JIDF have been attack en force, coupled with the usual /b/ tier autists that leak into the place.

As such, Jow Forums has turned into /pollution/, and the subforum's worth has diminished to little above a shit-posting repository. It's why they reduced the page count from 15 to 10...

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Israel dies next Tuesday.

Qanon. Set the standard for repetitive, meaningless gibberish.

/lit/ is where the good-quality discussion is nowadays. (Sorry, /lit/.)

Noone wants to debate because noone wants to acknowledge the uncomfortable fact they were and are being played for fools.

Sunk cost fallacy.

I wish all the whiners and complainers would leave.

Jow Forums is a place where people come to have fun

Feds and milfags bombarded us to steal or Qi.

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put those pieces together in the customary way - Jow Forums accuses you of spam if you spell it out properly.

Eh, no, it happens every time your opinion goes against the accepted narrative. Jow Forums doesn't want its fragile world to break, so every uncomfortable opinion = opinion of a paid shill or a kike.

posting
>drumpf if finished
or
>i voted for trump, but no i've changed my mind
since month after election isn't debate and when it came to debate it was you with no arguments, so you resorted to flooding page with IR porn and dumb questions

it was happening before Qanon. way before Qanon. I still remember 50 schizophrenic threads a day being posted with red circles on maps of pentagrams of DC or other weird shit that'd be ate up as "proof" then immediately forgotten when a new thread was posted even if it contradicted the previous one.

>what happened to Jow Forums
>in 2015 when i first started browsing
you're the cancer that killed Jow Forums

look. Jow Forums got different. but it is full of shills that bombard us with slides daily. you are not better if you try to smear donald for it. you are right that it changed in 2016 but it is because the internet got infested by globalist shills everywhere and we are the last bastion where they have not yet finished with their internetcensorship agenda by pushing desinfo everywhere. kys now you smell lile another shill or a Jow Forums fagott that browses here once a month.

was that during q-user or was that pizzagate/pedogate...? or do those two topics have a lot of overlap?

It's true.

This is exactly the response i get when I point out that israel is just defending itself from terrorism

ok, give me example of such opinion

Oy vey got (((them)))!

3 montha after trump got elected this board has been non stop raided. While it hasn't changed the fact the board is still right leaning more liberal threads get through and spam floods everything. It's annoying but still won't win them anything.

I think this is the main problem with shills and subversion tactics being the much smaller secondary problem.

Jow Forums was great because it was formed from traditional fags who had been on Jow Forums for years who had a board created for them to isolate and refine their conversations and debates. So that threads in other boards were not derailed by political discussions. Thus it was a relatively small board.

Keep in mind before 2010 most people who came to Jow Forums just went on /b/. I'd be willing to put money down, but I bet at least 75% of traffic on Jow Forums from 2006-2009 was /b/. Just one board. Then people from /b/ filtered out and joined with others and began to comprise Jow Forums.

And so Jow Forums set and festered and developed for years until 2015 when Trump began to take over. Memes created here spread out into the wider internet like /b/ of yesteryear. People began to seek the source of these and found the amazing Jow Forums threads of 2015 and 2016. Then more people came.

Then they started writing more articles about Jow Forums. Most intelligent normies probably know about Jow Forums. Most have probably checked it out once or twice for kicks. And edgy teens had a place that would accept them wholeheartedly.

These kids saw epic BTFOs, and thought that trolling the libz was the highest art form. But what made Jow Forums great was the caliber of discussion. There would be memeing and shitposting, but always in the context of the higher ideal of politics, which is that of saving the world and creating the most perfect society possible.

At some point it devolved. Those who saw our power began to fear us and attempt disruption. Others who were retarded but liked our edginess joined just to be edgy. The result is complete distortion of ideas and a fracture in the unification of Jow Forums.

At one point there was a clear unspoken heirarchy of intelligence here. The highest IQ posts had the most (yous) but those weren't even really much of a rating

>Reddit spacing is using paragraphs

Wrong, it's what you just did. And now I'm doing.

A dead line between the blue link and the greentext. Then another dead line between the greentext and the black text.

It also includes making one sentence paragraphs.

To emphasize your point.

Many "reddit spacers" don't even use reddit.

They're phoneposters who don't see how retarded this looks on desktop.

>mfw

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Memeflaggot kike on damage control

>Drumpf is finished.

the only people who say that are baiters and LARPERs. I think everyone knows that by now. noone replys to them.

>IR porn.

Apart from again the obvious bait "whitey cant compete" threads I've literally never seen this place "flooded" with IR porn as you say. you get permabanned. try it.

For instance, there was a guy a couple of days ago trying to tell Jow Forums that acting all "Nazi" was more damaging the reputation of the community, as well as its objectives than helping it. It makes everything to the right from socialism much easier to target and to put a stigma on through the media, as well as scare off potential members. Like 90% of replies were "fuck off, kike". And that's just one of the many examples.

The world is being mind controlled on such a subtle level and in such minute increments that nobody notices. I think people have become unusually passive. And i mean passive despite pornography, junk food, entertainment, vaccines etc. It’s something else We are being mind controlled by the frequencies of cell towers and the subtle messages are saying all sorts of things. Resistance is futile, etc. i really started thinking about this when i got into holosync meditation. Do you know they put subliminal messages in meditation soundtracks? You couldn’t even detect the messages in it consciously if you tried. So what is stopping them from beosdcasting subliminal messages from cell towers, cell phones, and other electronics? Nothing. They alreay do it. I noticed it when cell towers became prevalent. There’s something i felt that was just sinister about them. I’m really sensitive to that kind of stuff.

This place isn’t fun. It’s boring and tedious. I hate it and I hate all of you.

con't

point being, people initially came to Jow Forums (in 2015 and before) for interesting political discussion in a no holds barred format. Since 2016 and the election, people have came here to look at memes as opposed to contribute to discussion.

So you have a lot of fucking gawkers and reddit tier meme consumers coming here expecting to be entertained, but too dumb to contribute meaningful discussion

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it was pizzagate but for every thread that had some coherency there were 10 more that were insane. linking to demons and ancient Egypt and shit.

in September 2013, obama announced he was going to invade syria. he made an address live on youtube that he was going to authorize full, unrestrained military force in syria. Jow Forums pounced on his official youtube chat and went nuts. the next day Jow Forums was raided by hundreds of porn and bait threads. a couple days later, the first rules and the sticky were implemented, and it was all downhill from there.

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it's just nihilism at this point.
democrats and republicans aren't fully getting what they want so they're blaming eachother while the older generation who runs the country keeps carrot and sticking people into traps.

ah wow I missed most of that, I am on here daily and I always ignored Q user.

Be the change you want to see, user.
/t boring and tedious

>2015
>when I first started browsing
Newfags used to know how to lurk more. You are the problem.

(checked)
Must... resist... bait

As I thought

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>you have a good memory. bringing back the nostalgia.
I was an user of /tg/ before Jow Forums became my homeboard. The role of archivist and lorekeeper naturally suits me. I used to brief newfags on Colette/Akagi/Touhoufag, theultimatefiction/Cody, and John Tarnowski/rpgpundit. Now I keep the Jow Forums knowledge alive.

>still preferable to all the Trump dick sucking that goes on nowadays
We barely do that anymore, it's limited to a single general. We've pretty much accepted that he sucks more Jewish dick than a mohel and he'll never make anime real.

>The "DAE think Jow Forums is shit nowadays?" threads were around back then too. atleast now they're justifiable.
They're no more justifiable now than they were then, it's all stayed about the same. Jow Forums is Jow Forums. It's where lily white baizuo make troll posts LARPing as niggers and a variety of mestizos and mutts respond with defenses of Nazism and white supremacy. So it is, so it was, so it shall be. That's Jow Forums. And sometimes we fuck with Shia Labeouf until he's standing by an empty flagpole with a baseball bat, on guard for phantom neo-Nazis. It's like that.

But you clearly are a shill, a kike or just a hoodwinked goy. Hence why we call you one.

Heh, yes, exactly.

there was moments during last 2 years when there was 10 threads with IR porn at the same time...

i keep telling them that ashkeNAZIs were funded by Rothschilds, same as commies that's why they both were RED shielded because that's what literally Rothschild means.
And they were both opposite edges of sword made to kill european civilization.

and i've seen many similar aswell as completly different opinions, but you have to realize that after all the lies kikes said throughout the years, people are starting to belive that NAZIsm and real holocaust is the only way to have any future, and kikes are the only ones who oppose that

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Silly little man. The whole purpose of shilling is to derail intelligent discussion completely & destroy the community.

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I’ll admit I’m a t_d refugee and I haven’t left ever since. I rarely post here tho, I just stick around for the information that you can’t find anywhere else. Also, stormretards have failed to convince me of the Jewish conspiracy after 2 years and they fail to realize the ethnostate is equivalent to the communist utopia pipe dream they despise and that the best we can do is prevent Democrats from taking power

>Make the point that anons can't argue for shit and will just attack you for "reddit spacing."
>>"Phone poster!!" "Reddit Spacer!!"

you really changed my outlook bro.

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oh also I think Julian Assange and the wikileaks in 2016 has something to do with Jow Forums getting neutralized. I'm not sure how many journalists were going thru the ~1000 emails a day for that 1 month period or leaks. And I don't think legacy media was that interested or that fast. but because of social media and Jow Forums (and also the wikileaks base, anonymous and other supporters) all read through the emails and then bringing attention to shit.

so it wasn't just the 2016 election but specifically the wikileaks stuff. it all ties in together but you can't understate the importance of the wikileaks, and for all we know Mueller is going to try to use Assange and DoJ seems likely to charge assange under the espionage act because he's not a US citizen so it can't be treason.

What happened?
T_d
Facebook groups
2016 election with media matters
More Facebook groups
Twitter accounts about here

Basically nobody respected rules 1 & 2. Now it’s more bot posts than people, and everyone thinks they will change someone else’s opinions with name calling. Even /b/ won’t reply to the shit bait that people here do.

In your opinion, what are Jow Forums's objectives?

Its bullshit, like the grifter

Underaged DUDE LOOK AT MY EPIC DANK PEPE MEME TOP KEK happened

It was before Q. I can't remember if it was before or after the election. I think before.
Probably before. what triggered it was probably the whole "spirit cooking" thing. But there was a whole thing going on with numbers aswell I vaguely remember and some weird photos that got leaked.

>Anyone else remember that?

>reddit spacing
>reddit meme
>*Jow Forums sucks drumpf cock*
>constant complaining about this place, but won't leave
>i'm totally not a shill from reddit guyz, you won't change my mind this way

pathetic..

i have such a feeling too. human emotions arefluid and everyone is on synch but only i can feel that. really weird everything. it's like (((they))) are controlling our souls somehow like voodoo magic and we are slaves of (((them))) in a different dimension. fucking weird. cell towers might be but i strongly believe there is something other than our 4d space and we are experiencing that inbalance there slightly. demons you might call em

which part of Jow Forums are you asking about?

this is true. spirit cooking was easy to prove and pretty damn creepy. i honestly thing pizzagate was a CTR responding to spirit cooking by making a more outlandish and questionable theory that the media could mock.