Why are you guys still shilling for nationalism?

Okay.

>Nationalism is still Communism
Lol

Even from statism, we could go down to countism, but essentially, we are shadowbanning villages from succeeding to benefit (((everyone in the union))). I can do more on my own than with other people.

Would you like me to explain?

>Nationalism is still Communism
No it isn't. Nationalism is the preference for a national pride and identity. Communism is a system/economic practice of administration. It's like saying a football team is the 45,000 in the stands and not the 11 individuals on the field.

You cant explain it and all ur opinions are invalid. Youre very ignorant person

Nationalism is an ideological position not a fucking economic and governmental overhaul ala commune.
OP is a triple faggot.

>What are modern technology
>What are phones
>What is the internet
>What is airplanes

This is what I get from Jow Forums
>Unionizing is bad
>Unionizing states is good

>Nationalism is still Communism
Dropped and sage

Look at how hard Babylon tries to confuse the tongues

Why I get your point, but if you've ever worked with a football team, it's every bit of a community effort. Parents of the players, the family of the players, the fans, the band, the cheerleaders, you don't get the same thing as you would at say, a funeral.
Oh, nationalism very much effects economics as much as communism would.

Can you explain this to me?

Nationalism is literally a synonym for patriotism. It means you put your country ahead of other countries and take pride in it.
It has nothing to do with internal economics. You can be a nationalist capitalist or a nationalist socialist or a nationalist feudalist for that matter.

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You’re up your own ass.

I just think the USA is cutting us short of our potentials. Giving freedoms to states allows us to be more in control of the outcomes and yield better results.

Also, I'm very confused even when I talk to people with USA flags, because, like, they could be up in NYC, and they share the same flag as I do, but we are very different from each other.

I guess the saying is true.

Diversity really is our strength.

So how do you explain when people are nationalistic and want American made products made in the USA and bought in the USA?

I dont understand it
Or the mutt invention "white nationalism"

You don't understand the words or what Jow Forums is confused about?

Im not burger fucking retard

How do you conflate free trade biased towards Americans with all enterprises and entity ownership by one government that redistributes profits?

He means your incoherent rambling.

Simple: OP is an autistic fourteen year old ANTIfag who doesn't even have the almonds to google-define "Socialism"

wut. is that even a question?
nationalists would always prefer that their home country has a strong economy known for making quality products. it's a natural part of national pride.

it's still capitalism.

This board just says whatever Fox News and breitbart tell them to say, they have no legitimate political ideas. They claim to be nationalist, but if you actually ask them to name an American nat soc politician, they can't do it because there are none.

Game theory

jasss.soc.surrey.ac.uk/16/3/7.html
solargeneral.org/wp-content/uploads/library/The-Evolutionary-Dominance-of-Ethnocentric-Cooperation.pdf

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I know that, but what about your rights? I could care less about money.
I just really think we could do better and even bring in more money if the USA was either gone, or completely limited in power.

I'm not ANTIFA, I just think, if it came down to it, I'd rather fight for my state than my nation.

that would be because we are nationalists, not national socialists. big fucking difference.

what about my rights? do you have a point at all?

>believing that the nation should stand for its own priorities first is the same as a totalitarian government seizing property and nationalizing all economic resources
k

>Why are you guys still shilling for nationalism?
because they have nothing to live for unless they're all goys of the herd

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I'm saying, that Nationalism hurts the state like Communism would hurt the nation.

well we've been nationalist for over 200 years so I think you're full of shit

Nationalism is just an idea. It's the easiest idea. There's no meta-idea better that suits the majority of people.
>INBFour globalism
BAK TO REDDIT

>Nationalism hurts the state like Communism would hurt the nation
Fucking retard how does this make any sense at all?

Sorry I should clearly state, that the Communism I refer to is the Communism the left want, so Global Communism or just Globalism.
How could people sit here, with an American flag, and feel pride for the nation, but totally forget to mention their STATE, BEYOND my capability.
>yes goy, send your money to another state, it works better than sending it to your state
>diversity is our strength
>maybe someone will send some even less money to your state, it works out either way
I mean, how can they sit here and say "Diversity is our strength" memes, and think it's okay for people who hate NYC and don't live in NY have to put up with their bullshit while they live in BFE for a fucking reason?

oh I have decoded your autism and see the problem now. you're conflating nationalism with the concept of a strong federal government.

there's really no relationship. The southern states were still nationalist -- they would still put America far ahead of Britain. The opposite of nationalism is globalism and the south did not consist of globalists.

The guy is just a City Statist. He wants the whole world to abandon nation and only survive as city states.

fuck you boomer

There's no way you're not being ironic.
That's hilarious.

Why should I care about a stranger in Portland more than a stranger in Hong Kong?

>lives in the deep south
>middle of nowhere
>this is the life I've dreamed of, and my ancestors
>I feel pride in these flags
>NYC carries the same flag
I don't trust online dictionaries or even English dictionaries to tell me definitions of words. Wikipedia still has National Socialism as listed as right-wing. The left have stated that they will twist words, they are more college educated, yeah?
At a certain population number, things become insane, when has our ancestors ever dealt with a USA that was 325 million people? See my point?

I want to see my country succeed and banish the vipers that have attempted to strangle the American spirit. I want to see a new path taken, away from increasing government control/power and instead decreasing it.

>Nationalism is still communism

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THANK YOU! LOL.
I feel I have the right to judge people, if you want to live in a city, okay that's one thing, but how far away? People will also stop judging Americans in about 3 stereotypes if we split our ways. We could take back control of our states, take over other states, etc. It'll be worth it.
Maybe in my state, we want very lenient laws to allow more ethnicity similarity through allowing in more Europeans, so what, they shouldn't be released into 49 other states willfully. USA is just so big, it's the size of Europe, almost, and I just feel like the UNION States of America is no different than the European Union.

The union was never intended to allow some states to lord power over others. The purpose of the union was to streamline interstate commerce, decrease the likelyhood of interstate war, streamline foreign affairs, and better provide for defense of the states from foreign threats, and a few other things. Read your constitution and the federalist papers; America today looks nothing like the vision of the founders and certainly nothing like what your law dictates.

well there's the grand question, isn't it. if you think it's all equal then you're a globalist.
as I see it, the rub is that the guy living in Hong Kong has a pretty shit life compared to you (and much worse in mainland China). He has allowed himself to be fucked by his government in ways you can't really comprehend. Nationalism is a way of saying "keep your fucked up shit over there, away from me". And you rely on your nation to protect you from other nation's fucked up shit.

national pride is to us today what state pride was to Virginians prior to the civil war.

are you some libertarian ancap fag or something

lmao my man

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Yes, we achieve more things with a less influential government.
>wars
>and that's bad, goy
What's wrong with war?
>looks nothing like the vision
Oh, I'm well-aware, thanks.
This is where you are wrong, I think people in Portland are fucked up and should be carded before leaving and entering another state.

Why should you care about stranger that lives 20 minutes drive away from you?

Okay, sorry, maybe because it's late. USA = EU.

I want to be able to ban Californian products, I want to be able to put restrictions on it. I want FREEDOM BACK.

Well, 20 minutes drive in my state, takes me directly to grandma's house. So I mean, we're all family here in this holler.

Nationalism is the belief that all nations have a right to self-determination. No more, no less. You are retarded, OP.
t. imperialist opposed to nationalism

Lol

I corrected myself, USA is more like European Union. All I see are a bunch of scaredy cats that are too afraid to stand up for their life.

Didn't ask about your grandma, but a complete stranger that lives close to you.

I don't care what you call me, I just want to know why I ought to care about the Portland guy more, since you're saying I should.

Saying being violently subjugated by a group of organized, heavily armed, notoriously uncompromising authoritarian goons is hardly something you should blame victims for - if your life and your family were threatened by greater forces, you'd probably cede to them in the same way a man holding a gun to your head and demanding your wallet is probably gonna get it from you.

When you talk about "nation", are you talking about government? The people who steal your money and tell you what to do?

>complete stranger
Not possible in my neck of the woods.
YEEHAWW

>USA = EU
No dumbass, EU is a non-democratically elected globalist superstate masquerading as an economic trade union
>I want to be able to ban Californian products, I want to be able to put restrictions on it. I want FREEDOM BACK.
Do you read your posts back to yourself before you post them? I'm serious where the fuck is your head at?

well that ship sailed back in 1865.
you want to say you have state pride and I openly laugh at you because you can't have state pride without state power and you haven't ever had that in your lifetime. the difference between you and someone from portland is minuscule. if you think it's not minuscule it's because you don't understand how different the rest of the world is. you can go anywhere in America and still be "home" for all practical purposes.

You should care about the guy in Portland more...
and here's the real kicker...
because I said you should.
/s

This thread is example of default burgers

Then we scale it up to complete stranger living in your state.

Did you just say...
DIVERSITY IS OUR STRENGTH!
GOOD GOY!
GOOD GOY!
I think I've proved my point, thanks.

I do care about them in a general sense - if they were a victim of a mugging and were bleeding or something, I'd help them out without hesitation.
Same with a guy in Hong Kong.
I framed the question with the word "more" intentionally.

see
I think you're greatly exaggerating the difference between states.

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I need a European to chant
EU EU EU EU EU EU EU EU EU EU EU EU EU EU!

The US is a political and economic union. The EU is an economic one trying to also become a political one. They're quite different as the EU has lots of countries with a very rich identity and history under it while the states of the US really do not compare to say, Italy, for example.

I haven't referenced states. I don't see how that post is relevant to what I'm saying given that.

Yeah, and that's the USA to my state.

wut. no, you fuckwit. the whole point of what I'm saying is that there is very little diversity between whatever backwater hole you live in and Portland. Not on a global scale, anyway. Comparing Portland to Anywhere, USA is compared a red grape to a white grape. By comparison, comparing Anywhere, USA to Anywhere, India is comparing a white grape to a literal pile of elephant shit.

you don't seem to understand how different it really is out in the world.

You didn't. There's vast amount of people that are complete strangers to you in your own state. Explain why you should care about them.

OH WOW, THANKS YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS WITH THE SHITTY AMERICAN FLAG, THIS GUY JUST SAID THAT YOUR STATE DON'T MEAN SHIT TO HIS NATION.

THIS IS WHAT YOU'VE DONE. THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT.

>Nationalism is still Communism
Communism is internationalism, which is why capitalism allied with it.

Yes, I'm well aware places like Hollywood and Portland are just trailer trash, that's my complaint. Thanks.

>Nationalism is communism
Wut?

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>nationalism is communism

nice try jewboy

Read the thread, I've corrected myself more than once.

>I framed the question with the word "more" intentionally.

That's irrelevant. It still applies the same to strangers from your state, city or whatever place you identify with.

Yes, people who share common blood and heritage cannot possibly be of the same identity because muh distance.

Cant correct out of that one

>t. double digit IQ.

Yeah, there's too many English people in my state, not being English means I identity 100% with them, because we're all so happy singing songs and dancing our national dance (oh wait).

>What's wrong with war?
Hard to say. Maybe it's the: destruction of infrastructure, decrease in labor force, reorientation of economy to provide otherwise useless war machines, demoralization of the population, increased single motherhood rate from dead fathers, stunted economic growth, and negative foreign relations. Could be one of the many other issues though. Why don't you use your big burger brain and tell me?
>goy
Yeah, only a Jew would tell you that engaging in useless war is a bad idea. Not like a Jew would want to damage your country

But I'm not saying I don't care about those people, I'm asking why I should care more about them than people in Hong Kong.

If your answer is simply "I shouldn't" then you're not disagreeing with my current conclusion.

>infastructure
Damn my shed gone went again.
BILLY, BILLY!
GO DOWN IN DER WOOD AND COLLECT DAT WUD AND BRING IT ON UP. PAPAS GOT DER AN INFRASTRUCTURE TO MAKE.

well gaze into them and you gaze into your own community, plus or minus very minor differences.
you can find a hundred people in Portland that you have more in common with than your own immediate neighbors.
By comparison, rounding up even 1 person you have much in common with in central China would be fucking difficult because their culture and everything about their life is so completely foreign.

>diversity is our strength
>TAKE YOUR RIGHTS AWAY AND SETTLE, BOY

You speak English, you undoubtedly dress in modern Anglo style of dress, accept Anglo notions of politics and social order, Anglo customs of manners and etiquette, were educated in anglo literature in an anglicized educational system provided by an anglo style republican government, but you have nothing in common with Anglos.