How can Europe get rid of oil completely and create a completely renewable energy economy based on wind power, solar, geothermal, tidal, clean Eurorpan coal and nuclear and biomass/biogas as well as electric cars, electric heating and distributed steam heating etc.?
Oil and fossil gas are imported from foreign countries, impact Europe’s trade balance, increase energy costs and make Europe politically vulnerable to the dollar price, oil prices and instability in oil/gas rich countries.
But.... why? Seems like you just want to "stick it" to the taxpayer.
Conquest north africa. Install Solar panels.
Go nuclear you kraut cunt
Oh and apart from this we need nuclear energy. The Atomausstieg was the worst decision under merkel.
Look at the map. Germany has among the lowest wholesale electricity prices despite having one of the highest green energy markets.
instead of coal, we burn germans. Starting with the 9-10 pm German poster and his lame threats.
We need fusion power, not fission power.
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I'm not sure that the source of the power is nearly so important as the sheer distances it has to travel, the cost of infrastructure, etc.
Remind me again, how long does it take for a wind turbine to re-coup it's losses? 8 years?
What about a solar panel? 6 years?
Are they really an alternative or are you just polluting the world even further just to enhance your feeling of self-worth? All for smug points, not for reality.
Because of dotations from Eu and goverment most of time when your glorious green energy sources dont work you buy electricity from your coal and nuclear plants
Idea worth of ethernal anglo
Ow europe is getting green alright
you and your people aren't required to destroy Europe over and over again yet here we are.
>falling for the fusion power meme
It's a carrot they hang in front of you, so you don't pursue safe and clean nuclear power
I fucking hate the electricity prices here. Read somewhere we have one of the highest in the world. It isn't even the electricity itself it's all the fucking taxes they put on it. Last month no one was home - electricity bill was 80 euros in pure electricity (things like pool and fridge), while taxes made up 150 fucking euros. Gas these eu kikes please.
Romania has power plants on the Danube. They need a bit of fixing tho.
>Green energy in Europe
Of EU. Don't confuse the two.
That would also stop the parasite boats.
I've been saying it's european right to protect the borders by invading good slice of north africa. Too bad we have all these traitors in higher echelons preventing this, for now.
Its intentional. He could've just started a threat with ''how to get germany 100% green'' or something, but no, he has to drag every country around him into their shit. As if southern/Eastern Europe doesn't have more pressing issues
There isn't a relevant European country outside the EU except for Russia.
You are right. I also see there a case, that it would make it easier to help those people (Implying they want help and not conquer our lands). I would pick libya. It's a disastrous shithole with slave markets, war lords and torture. You can only improve the situation. We could install a safe zone for migrants and refugees there. As a next step we could build the infrastructre of migrant cities those people can live in then. A euro of our help would help there much more than in continental europe.
imagine being a europoor
We should just continue our deals with the countries that have the Sahara deserts to harvest solar energy. The problem with energy is that you need to be independent, which isn't the case with germany.
I'm not sure fusion is not at least 2 magnitudes more dangerous.
> 50 years ago:
Fusion will be ready in 50 years.
>Today:
Fusion will be ready in 50 years.
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user we pay 30c - 40c per unit
The reason that that number is high is because we had a long winter. We still had snow in April. Only when May came it started to get warmer.
At this point the only clean and good solution to power is thorium-based nuclear power.
But good fucking luck trying to build such a plant.
It's more expensive to handle than uranium, despite being more abundant, and you can't use the waste to make nuclear bombs.
Not to mention environmentalists are completely against them despite them having a much smaller footprint than any other energy source we have right now.
Until we can use nuclear fusion, we can't solve clean energy completely, and even when we do, no one will be able to use it because environmentalists are retarded cunts.
France is already all nuclear. Honestly the risks of nuclear are pretty small compared to the risks of climate change.
I agree with getting rid of oil
but solely because I want to see the Middle East become a wasteland devoid of anything valuable and because I do not trust Russia in the long run.
Wind is literally retarded
>kills birds of prey
>sound
>disrups windflow
all in all your green windmill parks will literally rape the ecosystem
Sun is just ineffective
>low efficiency
>those cells with high efficiency are made out of (semi-)rare metals such as gallium and arsene, which among other places is mined in Brazil.
Good job destroying more rainforests for your 50watt solar cell which only delivers 25watt.
Biomass is just straight up retarded, unless you're burning like the stalks from wheat or something, but that isn't going to keep the country warm.
Even tidal and geothermal have negative effects on the ecosystem in the long run, you simply can't take energy out of the natural processes without disrupting them. Geothermal installations increase the risk of earthquakes and I assume tidal installations will have an impact on the tidal flows.
We as a society solely need to rely on nuclear energy, uranium, thorium, and ensure that within 20 years we have control over nuclear fusion.
But every time you mention nuclear, greenpeace kills another whale to make clear they don't like it. fucking disgusting ngo's poisoning society.
mate just get hydro
Regardless if fusion power is possible, fission reactors should be explored as the means of converting lots of thermal energy into electrical will be simmilar tech to what is required with fusion
hydro is retarded aswell
see the three gorges dam
they've killed whole species of fish with it and destroyed another ecosystem
also where oh where can we find high rivers flowing to low places in the fucking Netherlands whose name literally means low countries. Our highest "mountain" is about 300m high.
Hydro is fine you are just picking excuses by blaming chinese incompetence when NZ has had hydro since 1900 and creates 50% of the electricity
>How can Europe get rid of oil completely
By stopping to listen to the idiots in the green parties and finally start using nuclear waste as fuel source.
Germans tend to think:
- the fukushima plant killed a lot of people people, nope it was a tsunami
- only bombs and power-plants cause elevated background radiation, nope natural radiation in a basement in Dresden is as bad as in the Chernobyl exclusion zone .. (natural radon)
.. not that safety is a problem if you're not a Japanese keeping the plant in perfect technical condition of the 1960s...
- nuclear waste will be there forever, nope only if we don't use transmutation to get it down to less than 1000 years until the rest is gone, which using geopolymeres makes it easy to package it safely.
You still burn some coal and the wind pollution is going to France Hans, thanks mon ami...
the idiocy didn't start with Merkel, Germany went down the wrong path a long time ago
en.wikipedia.org
>Only two Euro countries are more expensive
user, that's hardly an argument.
adding a radon map, as it's the best cure for people that get a heart-attack when hearing a Geiger counter click.
Our electricity is expensive as hell, and we have renewables (big focus on hydro).
I wish we had nuclear energy instead.
Is there any reason we cannot put stationary islands with arms attaching it to other islands? The waves then make these islands move up and down in relation to the center island, and we use this movement to generate electricity. How bad could that be for the environment? It also sounds way more feasible for coastal nations.
Offshore wind is the way to go. Birds typically do not fly low 30 miles off the coast.
Everyone does, but it's currently hip to deny your country that.
Fusion will be ready in 10yrs.
Nuclear alone is what's required, all the solar and wind stuff is innefficient, expensive, and producing them is worse for the environment when the objective is to help. Nuclear is all we need.
killing all germans would fix also this problem
The only viable route is a combination of nuclear and hydro as baseload and whatever renewable makes sense in each location.
the problem is we cant store enough energy. I dont believe in huge lithium batteries, thats just even more pollution through the mining, constructino and disposal of toxic rare earth minerals.