Do catholics go to heaven?

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> Time of Constantine

> Those who did not accept the authority of the Emperor over the Church were called Donatist heretics

> Gregory VII later asserts the Pope is all but the mouthpiece of God and rejects Imperial authority

> Do Donatist heretics go to heaven?

Even if they aren't directiy involved in crimes. If they knowingly support the organization that keeps a child abuse going....no, they will be punished eternally!

youtube.com/watch?v=_Sb46VD5CmA

They are not even Christian so of course not

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No.

>Huckabees
For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book.

Lmao

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Yes. They are the only ones.

Catholics have been Donatists heretics since Gregory VII wrote Dictatus Papae.

They go to hell, where they will perpetually get raped by nigger devils with their niggers cocks. I'm a Catholic and I can't wait for my turn, it's gunna be good.

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That's naive thinking, no low level Catholic knowingly supports pedophila. They sincerely believe that Church is good, as it claims, but people make it rotten.

Being part of Catholic church is like being in a cult - a propaganda machine. It is our duty to help suffering Catholics reach the conclusion of the Gospel and leave that institution of esoterics.

Easier said than done, especially in Catholic countries.

Some low level catholics are good people, but they have been decieved by masterfully crafted lie.

all they have to do is pay off their indulgences and they're absolved

they still do indulgences, right? i mean, why would they change that?

Slovenia user are you Protestant or Orthodox?

I believe that both can be saved as God has said his house has many mansions and that no church will be perfect in the end times but the Catholic Church is condemned by BOTH tradition AND sola scriptura interpretation of Christianity.

I'm in a bit of a pickle, So went from athiest edge lord to believer in God and Jesus, was baptized and did confiirmation catholic, by not religious parents.

But I just can't seem to get over this child abuse scandal, i know that the priests themselves probably abuse on a similar level to teachers and the general public but the church fucking hiding it and moving those filthy cunts around.

However then I look at a lot of protestant churches and I see this money hungry pastor or church gib me your money, and the worse gib me your money and you will be healed shit.

I'm not well educated in theological matters, so would appreciate some advice, other than the logical educate yourself. Some opinions,sources of information, where should I look other than God himself? Help a brother out.

Orthodoxy is no different than Catholicism. It is the same church, split in the lines of culture - one Roman Catholic and the other, Greek orthodox.

Whilst Roman Catholicism is more corrupt in modern, cultural Marxist sense, Orthodoxy is more corrupt in ancient, pagan and eastern esoterics sense.

If you don't like any Protestant Churches and don't believe in Sola Scriptura best to go with the Orthodox Church.

Yes.

Why not just have "personal faith" and leave the multinational structures to rot?

#notallpapists
Benedict the 16. took steps to weed out the sickos, including dismissing hundreds of priests in person.

Sure, it might have been just the tip of the iceberg, but I do appreciate how Palpatine was the actual good guy while the current progressive socialist pope is known for being unwilling to do anything about the pedos.

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You stupid nigger. This means therefore Christianity is FALSE

But the Orthodox Church can at least claim to be mostly uncorrupted by its own rules but the Roman Catholic Church stands 100% condemned by its own rules against simony and Donatism (if Donatism was a heresy then Gregory VII was a heretic in writing Dictatus Papae for rejecting the Emperor's authority and claiming supremacy over the Church).

Sola Scriptura is false and have no basis in the early christians.

Being a member of any of those churches opens you to attacks of the devil, as both of those churches deny the fact that victory has already been achieved through sacrifice of Christ Jesus, they make it seem like this world is still an equal war between good and evil.

In fact it is not. We only need to claim victory of Christ and we will be delivered. But if you pretend that Christ died in vain and that battle is still at beginning, as Orthodox and Catholics claim, you are going to be besieged by demonic for your entire life.

depends on the protestant church man. my church is super based. it really depends on the people, the vibe, the conformity to scripture. you should know after one visit whether Christ is with them or if they're just LARPing atheists

no they go to naraka like all dead kike worshippers of all variety

>all the early Christians are therefore false
Good job showing why Christianity is false

Even worse, only Gnostics believe in one and done. Just like you do here

Good job stupid gnostic

> Listening to anything a Democrat memeflag has to say.

All Democrats are going to hell regardless of any other consideration.

>no low level Catholic knowingly supports pedophila

I said the structure, you don't have to racketeer or be a hit man to support the mob, most of this shit will be solved if the priests could get married anyway

ALL Protestant is false

Everything is made more difficult by the fact i'm working in Hong Kong so the vast variety of churches are not really here. I feel the Orthodox church has many of the theological problems that catholics do, so do I switch teams just because of the fucked up shit the Vatican has done in the past? I feel like the Orthodox church is so niche i'm not Eastern European or Greek are they really for me?

But to be honest I don't know about Sola Scriptura at times it makes sense at times it doesn't, I'm just a confused fool trying to understand where truth lies.

Orthodox church is built on eastern spiritualism and esoterics. It is commonly known fact in our part of the world, that devout orthodox suffer a lot of demonic attacks, pain, and other sufferings. The reason for that is the darkness that is their religion. They pretend that battle hadn't been won yet, is still to be fought, one still ought to suffer, and that Christ sacrifice is nothing but a chance for our deliverance.

It is horribly dark. Go to orthodox monastery. Nothing but pain and suffering

Stay mad Proddie moron

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Are you some kind of retard? I'm claiming that Christianity is true

your (((religion))) is the one of Satan, flaggot

You're not catholic, degenerate.

Catholics like that one who are just puppets of the kikes who run the world are definitely going to hell. All kiwis will join him.

>no proof
>spits on the early christians

>Catholics -> Heaven
>Orthodox -> Purgatory
>Everyone else -> Hell
Thanks for playing

Yes, and Evangelicals go to hell

If either Catholic or Orthodox is false, Christianity is false

Get over it

Protestantism have NO BASIS IN SCRIPTURE OR EARLY CHRISTIANITY

PROTESTANTS ARE SATAN

You are being irrational and emotional. I'm not going to discuss issues with a triggered person

scripture directly challenges the catholic teaching on many many occasions dude. do you believe that scripture is the perfect word of God?

>american (jewish) christianity in all its depth
yikes

I prayed [to the Angel of Repentance, who is called the Shepherd] much that he would explainto me the similitude of the field…And he answered me again, saying, “Every one who is the servant of God, and has his Lord in his heart, asks of Him understanding, and receives it, and opens up every parable; and the words of the Lord become known to him which are spoken in parables. But those who are weak and slothful in prayer, hesitate to ask anything from the Lord; but the Lord is full of compassion, and gives without fail to all who ask Him. But you, having been strengthened by the holy Angel, and having obtained from Him such intercession, and not being slothful, why do not you ask of the Lord understanding, and receive it from Him?” I said to him, “Sir, having you with me, I am necessitated to ask questions of you, for you show me all things, and converse with me; but if I were to see or hear these things without you, I would then ask the Lord to explain them.”

The Shepherd of Hermas, 3.5.4
Rome, Date questionable; perhaps as early as AD 85-90, perhaps as late as AD 140-155 [1]

This shows Protestantism is false

GET OVER IT

#triggered

meanwhile in reality

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He has a Democrat memeflag user.

All Democrats go to hell, it doesn't matter what their religion is or how much good they do because they are servants of the enemy.

I prayed [to the Angel of Repentance, who is called the Shepherd] much that he would explainto me the similitude of the field…And he answered me again, saying, “Every one who is the servant of God, and has his Lord in his heart, asks of Him understanding, and receives it, and opens up every parable; and the words of the Lord become known to him which are spoken in parables. But those who are weak and slothful in prayer, hesitate to ask anything from the Lord; but the Lord is full of compassion, and gives without fail to all who ask Him. But you, having been strengthened by the holy Angel, and having obtained from Him such intercession, and not being slothful, why do not you ask of the Lord understanding, and receive it from Him?” I said to him, “Sir, having you with me, I am necessitated to ask questions of you, for you show me all things, and converse with me; but if I were to see or hear these things without you, I would then ask the Lord to explain them.”

The Shepherd of Hermas, 3.5.4
Rome, Date questionable; perhaps as early as AD 85-90, perhaps as late as AD 140-155 [1]

Get over it

Sola Scriptura is circular logic friend.

Catholicism/Orthodoxy doesn't have issues conforming to scripture; the problem your identifying with Catholicism/Orthodoxy is your due to your own misunderstanding and exegesis of scripture.

I highly recommend you watch this video as it covers some of questions you have here.

youtube.com/watch?v=5PCOA6imZhc&ab_channel=BreakingInTheHabit

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1.2 St. Hippolytus of Rome:

Tell me,you three boys, remember me, I entreat you, that I also may obtain the same lot of martyrdom with you, who was the fourth person with you who was walking in the midst of the furnace and who was hymning to God with you as from one mouth? Describe to us his form and beauty so that we also, seeing him in the flesh, may recognize him.

Commentary on Daniel, 30.1[2]
Rome, Circa AD 202-211

Stay mad dumb Prot

what are you even doing here, Israel? when the kikes are sending their trolls, they're not sending their best

.5 John Ryland’s Papyrus:

Beneath your compassion
we take refuge, Theotokos.
Our petitions do not despise in time of trouble,
but from dangers ransom us,
Only Holy, Only Blessed

3rd Century Letter [5]
Egypt, Circa AD 250

Funny how there are ZERO EARLY PROTO PROTESTANTS

>I hate truth

This type of hysterical anger can not come from God or the Spirit, by definition

>Orthodox -> Purgatory
projecting this hard

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Since then these things are manifest to us, and we have looked into the depths of the divine knowledge, we ought to do in order all things which the Master commanded us to perform at appointed times. He commanded us to celebrate sacrifices and services, and that it should not be thoughtlessly or disorderly, but at fixed times and hours. He has Himself fixed by His supreme will the places and persons whom He desires for these celebrations, in order that all things may be done piously according to His good pleasure, and be acceptable to His will. So then those who offer their oblations at the appointed seasons are acceptable and blessed, but they follow the laws of the Master and do not sin. For to the high priest his proper ministrations are allotted, and to the priests the proper place has been appointed, and on Levites their proper services have been imposed. The layman is bound by the ordinances for the laity."

Source: St. Clement, bishop of Rome, 80 A.D., to the Corinthians

"Our sin will not be small if we eject from the episcopate those who blamelessly and holily have offered its Sacrifices."

Source: Letter to the Corinthians, [44,4]

Get over it. Protestantism is false

Proven by how You show zero early Proto Protestants!

Why would something being "early" make it any better than being "late" in the first place?

Protestants HATE THIS

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thank you for providing some material in the midst of the shit flinging contest, to someone seeking truth. will watch and ponder

"And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven"

"For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus"

"For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book"

occam's razor dude. these types of verses (and there are many more similar) are much clearer than your arguments. earnestly seek Jesus and you will know the truth

>be Jesus
>say not even Hades will prevail
>ad 80, the teaching of Jesus is lost until Martin Poother!

>Be paul
>contradict Jesus by describing himself as a spiritual father

Since then these things are manifest to us, and we have looked into the depths of the divine knowledge, we ought to do in order all things which the Master commanded us to perform at appointed times. He commanded us to celebrate sacrifices and services, and that it should not be thoughtlessly or disorderly, but at fixed times and hours. He has Himself fixed by His supreme will the places and persons whom He desires for these celebrations, in order that all things may be done piously according to His good pleasure, and be acceptable to His will. So then those who offer their oblations at the appointed seasons are acceptable and blessed, but they follow the laws of the Master and do not sin. For to the high priest his proper ministrations are allotted, and to the priests the proper place has been appointed, and on Levites their proper services have been imposed. The layman is bound by the ordinances for the laity."

Source: St. Clement, bishop of Rome, 80 A.D., to the Corinthians

"Our sin will not be small if we eject from the episcopate those who blamelessly and holily have offered its Sacrifices."

Source: Letter to the Corinthians, [44,4]

This destroys you

WHERE ARE YOU PROTESTANT!

I'm not sure that all Catholics go to hell but all Democrats will.

and how do the teachings of Jesus align with those of the Democrat party, hmmmmm?

Catholics go to sand dirt, atheists go to humus. I am sorry, but there's no reincarnation in holy land desert, it's dead end.

Protestant iconoclast BTFO

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So I guess niggers all get into heaven

>do catholics go to heaven?

Only by God's grace and thanks to Jesus Christ for taking our sins upon Him.

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meanwhile Protestants say God is a liar

First of all, you do not know and can not know what was religion of an average western christian.

What was written, in those books you call of early church fathers, was mostly written by those with political and financial support.

Secondly, I was a Catholic for two years. I went to church every day, I prayed the Rosary, I was active member. I suffered so hard. I didn't know why until I understood the story of Martin Luther.

Why do Catholics pray to Mary and make prayer long repetitive (rosary)?

This kills the Proddi

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kek

I know, by my own experience, that Catholicism had destroyed me and broke my spirit. You cna believe me or not, I don't care. I know that sth that causes that much suffering, as Catholicism did to me, can not be true by definition.

God bless you

>muh conspiracy theory
Get over it. Christianity is FALSE by your logic. Shown by how the early christians are false!

Sadly, they wont. This is why we make Dawa.

Thank you brother

>meanwhile in Paul

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your contribution to this thread has been unfiltered autism. work on your communication skills. earnestly seek Christ. that's all, I'm off for bed now because unlike Democrats I have a job

>no proof
>no demonstration from early christians
Just kys

FACTS DONT CARE ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS

Since then these things are manifest to us, and we have looked into the depths of the divine knowledge, we ought to do in order all things which the Master commanded us to perform at appointed times. He commanded us to celebrate sacrifices and services, and that it should not be thoughtlessly or disorderly, but at fixed times and hours. He has Himself fixed by His supreme will the places and persons whom He desires for these celebrations, in order that all things may be done piously according to His good pleasure, and be acceptable to His will. So then those who offer their oblations at the appointed seasons are acceptable and blessed, but they follow the laws of the Master and do not sin. For to the high priest his proper ministrations are allotted, and to the priests the proper place has been appointed, and on Levites their proper services have been imposed. The layman is bound by the ordinances for the laity."

Source: St. Clement, bishop of Rome, 80 A.D., to the Corinthians

"Our sin will not be small if we eject from the episcopate those who blamelessly and holily have offered its Sacrifices."

Source: Letter to the Corinthians, [44,4]

Since then these things are manifest to us, and we have looked into the depths of the divine knowledge, we ought to do in order all things which the Master commanded us to perform at appointed times. He commanded us to celebrate sacrifices and services, and that it should not be thoughtlessly or disorderly, but at fixed times and hours. He has Himself fixed by His supreme will the places and persons whom He desires for these celebrations, in order that all things may be done piously according to His good pleasure, and be acceptable to His will. So then those who offer their oblations at the appointed seasons are acceptable and blessed, but they follow the laws of the Master and do not sin. For to the high priest his proper ministrations are allotted, and to the priests the proper place has been appointed, and on Levites their proper services have been imposed. The layman is bound by the ordinances for the laity."

Source: St. Clement, bishop of Rome, 80 A.D., to the Corinthians

"Our sin will not be small if we eject from the episcopate those who blamelessly and holily have offered its Sacrifices."

Source: Letter to the Corinthians, [44,4]

READ

Are you Shia or Sunni?

I'm not. But I'm not insamuch as the guy asking isn't Christian, either.

I see so many shocking things I think it might be the only option. If demons seem to be manifesting before us, it is reasonable to be assume that the spiritual plane has some relevance.

Protestant BTFO

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Something is seriously wrong with you. You can not possibly believe that you can convince anyone with your hysterical attidute?

Is hysteria the work of the spirit, or the work of the flesh? Think about it.

>no church in Bible
NEW TESTAMENT SCHOLARSHIP:

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Since then these things are manifest to us, and we have looked into the depths of the divine knowledge, we ought to do in order all things which the Master commanded us to perform at appointed times. He commanded us to celebrate sacrifices and services, and that it should not be thoughtlessly or disorderly, but at fixed times and hours. He has Himself fixed by His supreme will the places and persons whom He desires for these celebrations, in order that all things may be done piously according to His good pleasure, and be acceptable to His will. So then those who offer their oblations at the appointed seasons are acceptable and blessed, but they follow the laws of the Master and do not sin. For to the high priest his proper ministrations are allotted, and to the priests the proper place has been appointed, and on Levites their proper services have been imposed. The layman is bound by the ordinances for the laity."

Source: St. Clement, bishop of Rome, 80 A.D., to the Corinthians

"Our sin will not be small if we eject from the episcopate those who blamelessly and holily have offered its Sacrifices."

Source: Letter to the Corinthians, [44,4]

This DESTROYS you